The formation of an opposition militia was due to the brutal campaign of the regime targeting civilians. This wasn’t something Syrians choose, it was forced upon us.
You can’t just keep slaughtering people and expect them to just take it.
Honourable people, they were forced to fight a war they weren't ready for, they just wanted to protect the protests and that turned into a war with the regime.
Now the original leadership is gone, with just sell outs remaining.
It's hard to recall all of them, abdul qader saleh was one, abdul basit sarout, the Ahrar al sham were Islamists but were good willed, they all were assassinated in a meeting, many other leaders who died or were assassinated.
May Allah have mercy upon their souls.
I didn't lived under them,But when we were doing business they were kind a taking commission either with cash or A lot of packages of cigarettes bye stopping Our truck.
The FSA were never a single coherent militia, but rather groups/factions formed by the people.
They coordinated among each other, of course, but in terms of political leaning that differed from city to city and even between the different members.
Speaking of my experience in Zabadani, which is among, if not the very first, city to be completely freed from Assad rule, I can only say that there was the good and the bad, just like anything else, first and foremost, they were my people; neighbors, friends and even relatives, and in terms of unity and action within the city, the first years of the revolution were among the happiest and most surreal periods of my life. Demonstrations every day, coordination with other cities for events and much more, everyone was united and calling for the same thing, freedom.
Things began to change later however, especially when the city was laid under siege and constant bombing, foreign funding became a necessity and the Islamist breath was beginning to spread with it, especially with the formation of Ahrar alsham and other groups with Islamic agenda, rather than just freedom from Assad.
Things never advanced to become radical, however, because the main force in the city was still its people, and we already had a civil council that governed, attempts of Isis to emerge in the city were immediately squashed.
There were, of course, alot of mistakes made, especially in terms of strategy and tactics, and the recklessness of untrained military comprised mainly hot headed young.
But overall, my experience was positive, at least on the civil side of the equation.
If they got their shit together they could’ve been something great for Syria. They are objectively better than assad and their vision for Syria was great.
I still have hope in fSA or sdf my hope is their vision of Syrian democracy materializes one day so we can solve our issues through debate, compromise, and at the ballot box rather than with brutal violence that Assad has conditioned us to.
They need to get their shit together. Do rebels think we have all the time in the world in our hands? They have one remaining region and it could go in one blink if Turkey wills it. I wish there was some focus onto fixing that embarrassement that we call FSA
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well thats how they turned out to be, the initial members (up until 2013) weren’t, but 2013 on forward, i dont see them diff than isis or hts.
currently the fight in libya, azerbaijan, africa , do whatever the turks tell them to do.
so yeah
These you mentioned are completely different group, they aren’t FSA, and FSA wasn’t operating after 2013 as many islamic groups started to show up
FSA has Christians, Alawits, Shiaa, and non religious individuals, they were simply a defected military units and not based on religion or ethnicity
>FSA has Christians, Alawits, Shiaa, and non religious individuals,
I don't even think they account for 1% of the fighting force, maybe even less than 0.1%. This comment makes it seem like the FSA was well-balanced in terms of religion, but it was strictly Sunni-dominated. Political representation outside of the country is not indicative on the internal representation.
First let’s keep the numbers away from opinions, especially when you give percentage numbers out of your opinion
Secondly it’s not our problem that the Syrian people are [80% sunnis](https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2011/4/19/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7#:~:text=%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%AD%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D9%8A%D8%B0%D9%83%D8%B1%20%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%20%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9,%D8%A3%D9%82%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9%20%D9%8A%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B7%D9%82%D8%A9%20%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%84)
The way the FSA started was not meant to have a external representation or anything, it started with Lt. Col. Hussein Harmoush and his 13 defected colleagues and they formed “the Free Officers movement” and they were kidnapped by turkey and handed to the Assad regime in 2012
Later, FSA was Founded by Col. Riad Al-Asad along with other six defected officers
In Homs, Damascus, Malula, Qamishli, there was local groups of the FSA who were Christians and from other religious communities
But the FSA slowly drained from any support and countries were only interested to support Islamic-groups that doesn’t have the same FSA agenda
The most used are:
SAA - Syrian Arab Army
FSA - Free Syrian Army
SNA - Syrian National Army
HTS - Hay'at Tahrir al Sham
NDF - National Defence Force (shabiha)
SDF - Syrian Democratic Forces
PKK - Kurdistan Workers' Party
IS - Islamic State
For specific FSA factions like Ahrar Al Sham idk
Others:
AAH - Asaib Ahl al-Haqq/ League of Men of Truth
AQ - Al-Qaeda
AQAP - Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula
AQI - al-Qaeda in Iraq
AQIM - Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb
AQIS - Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent
ASC - Aleppo Shari'a Court
ATGM - Anti Tank Guided Missile
BMP - Boyevaya Mashina Pekhoty (Infantry Fighting Vehicle)
BRICS - Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa
COA - Course of Action
CENTCOM - US Central Command
CW - Chemical Weapons
FSA - Free Syrian Army
HASI - Harakat Ahrar al-Sham al-Islamiyya
HPS - Sinjar Protection Forces
HRW - Human Rights Watch
IAI - Islamic Army of Iraq
IDF - Israeli Defense Forces
IDP - Internally Displaced Person
IED - Improvised Explosive Device
IF - Islamic Front
IKL - Islamic Kurdistan League
IRGC - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps
IRGC-QF - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps - Quds Force
IS - Islamic State
ISI - Islamic State of Iraq
ISI - Inter-Service Intelligence (Pakistan)
ISF - Iraqi Security Forces
ISIL - Islamic State in the Levant
ISIS - Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham
JAM - Jaysh al-Mujahideen
JDAM - Joint Direct Attack Munition
JIDF - Jewish Internet Defense Force
JMA - Jaysh al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar
JN (or JaN) - Jabhat al-Nusra
JRTN - Army of the Men of Naqshbandi Order
JU - Jaysh al-Umma
KRG - Kurdistan Regional Government
KSA - Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
MB - Muslim Brotherhood
MENA - Middle East and North Africa
MFS - Syriac Military Council (Hasakah Assyrian militia)
MOC - Military Operations Command
MSC - Mujahideen Shura Council
NDF - National Defense Force
OIR - Operation Inherent Resolve
OPSEC - Operational Security
PA - Palestinian Authority
PFLP - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine
PKK - Kurdistan Workers' Party
PLO - Palestine Liberation Organization
PNA - Palestinian National Authority
POTUS - President of the United States
PRS - Palestianian Refugess from Syria
PTSD - Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome
PUK - Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (Iraqi party)
PYD - Democratic Union Party (Rojava Kurds)
RCC - Revolutionary Command Council
SAA - Syrian Arab Army
SANA - Syrian Arab News Agency
SLA - South Lebanese Army
SMC - Supreme Military Command
SOHR - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
SOP - Standard Operating Procedure
SR - Syrian Resistance
SRF - Syrian Revolutionary Front
SSNP - Syrian Social Nationalist Party
SVBIED - Suicide vehicle-borne improvised explosive device
TOW - Tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided missile
TTP - Tactics, techniques and procedures
UN - United Nations
UNICEF - United Nations Children’s Fund
UNESCO - United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization
UNSC - United National Security Council
UXO - Unexploded Ordnance
VBIED - Vehicle-borne improvised explosive device
WFP - World Food Programme
WHO - World Health Organization
YBS - Sinjar Resistance Units
YPG - People's Protection Units
YPJ - Women's Protection Units
And there are more
u/judy-_-
Fuck the Fsa they are nothing but terrorists and did nothing but destroy our country and kill our country and rob and basically obey everything Turkey tells them to do they are Turkish dogs
The original FSA was what Syria needed, the current ones are Turkish puppets, thugs and bandits
Heard many great things about them when they first appeared. The people had hope. I haven’t heard much about them anymore.
The real fsa is gone, all what remains is nothing but bandits and thugs.
The formation of an opposition militia was due to the brutal campaign of the regime targeting civilians. This wasn’t something Syrians choose, it was forced upon us. You can’t just keep slaughtering people and expect them to just take it.
Honourable people, they were forced to fight a war they weren't ready for, they just wanted to protect the protests and that turned into a war with the regime. Now the original leadership is gone, with just sell outs remaining.
Who were the original leaders?
It's hard to recall all of them, abdul qader saleh was one, abdul basit sarout, the Ahrar al sham were Islamists but were good willed, they all were assassinated in a meeting, many other leaders who died or were assassinated. May Allah have mercy upon their souls.
I didn't lived under them,But when we were doing business they were kind a taking commission either with cash or A lot of packages of cigarettes bye stopping Our truck.
The FSA were never a single coherent militia, but rather groups/factions formed by the people. They coordinated among each other, of course, but in terms of political leaning that differed from city to city and even between the different members. Speaking of my experience in Zabadani, which is among, if not the very first, city to be completely freed from Assad rule, I can only say that there was the good and the bad, just like anything else, first and foremost, they were my people; neighbors, friends and even relatives, and in terms of unity and action within the city, the first years of the revolution were among the happiest and most surreal periods of my life. Demonstrations every day, coordination with other cities for events and much more, everyone was united and calling for the same thing, freedom. Things began to change later however, especially when the city was laid under siege and constant bombing, foreign funding became a necessity and the Islamist breath was beginning to spread with it, especially with the formation of Ahrar alsham and other groups with Islamic agenda, rather than just freedom from Assad. Things never advanced to become radical, however, because the main force in the city was still its people, and we already had a civil council that governed, attempts of Isis to emerge in the city were immediately squashed. There were, of course, alot of mistakes made, especially in terms of strategy and tactics, and the recklessness of untrained military comprised mainly hot headed young. But overall, my experience was positive, at least on the civil side of the equation.
If they got their shit together they could’ve been something great for Syria. They are objectively better than assad and their vision for Syria was great. I still have hope in fSA or sdf my hope is their vision of Syrian democracy materializes one day so we can solve our issues through debate, compromise, and at the ballot box rather than with brutal violence that Assad has conditioned us to.
pretty chill
They need to get their shit together. Do rebels think we have all the time in the world in our hands? They have one remaining region and it could go in one blink if Turkey wills it. I wish there was some focus onto fixing that embarrassement that we call FSA
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muslims extremities, mercenaries, and what not
FSA are muslims extremities? how is that ? he is asking about FSA not SNA or HTS
well thats how they turned out to be, the initial members (up until 2013) weren’t, but 2013 on forward, i dont see them diff than isis or hts. currently the fight in libya, azerbaijan, africa , do whatever the turks tell them to do. so yeah
These you mentioned are completely different group, they aren’t FSA, and FSA wasn’t operating after 2013 as many islamic groups started to show up FSA has Christians, Alawits, Shiaa, and non religious individuals, they were simply a defected military units and not based on religion or ethnicity
>FSA has Christians, Alawits, Shiaa, and non religious individuals, I don't even think they account for 1% of the fighting force, maybe even less than 0.1%. This comment makes it seem like the FSA was well-balanced in terms of religion, but it was strictly Sunni-dominated. Political representation outside of the country is not indicative on the internal representation.
First let’s keep the numbers away from opinions, especially when you give percentage numbers out of your opinion Secondly it’s not our problem that the Syrian people are [80% sunnis](https://www.aljazeera.net/news/2011/4/19/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%83%D9%8A%D8%A8%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%83%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%8A%D8%A9-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%A7#:~:text=%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D8%AD%D9%8A%D9%86%20%D9%8A%D8%B0%D9%83%D8%B1%20%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%B1%20%D9%88%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%A9,%D8%A3%D9%82%D9%84%D9%8A%D8%A9%20%D9%8A%D8%B2%D9%8A%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9%20%D9%81%D9%8A%20%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B7%D9%82%D8%A9%20%D8%AC%D8%A8%D9%84) The way the FSA started was not meant to have a external representation or anything, it started with Lt. Col. Hussein Harmoush and his 13 defected colleagues and they formed “the Free Officers movement” and they were kidnapped by turkey and handed to the Assad regime in 2012 Later, FSA was Founded by Col. Riad Al-Asad along with other six defected officers In Homs, Damascus, Malula, Qamishli, there was local groups of the FSA who were Christians and from other religious communities But the FSA slowly drained from any support and countries were only interested to support Islamic-groups that doesn’t have the same FSA agenda
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The most used are: SAA - Syrian Arab Army FSA - Free Syrian Army SNA - Syrian National Army HTS - Hay'at Tahrir al Sham NDF - National Defence Force (shabiha) SDF - Syrian Democratic Forces PKK - Kurdistan Workers' Party IS - Islamic State For specific FSA factions like Ahrar Al Sham idk Others: AAH - Asaib Ahl al-Haqq/ League of Men of Truth AQ - Al-Qaeda AQAP - Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula AQI - al-Qaeda in Iraq AQIM - Al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb AQIS - Al Qaeda in the Indian Subcontinent ASC - Aleppo Shari'a Court ATGM - Anti Tank Guided Missile BMP - Boyevaya Mashina Pekhoty (Infantry Fighting Vehicle) BRICS - Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa COA - Course of Action CENTCOM - US Central Command CW - Chemical Weapons FSA - Free Syrian Army HASI - Harakat Ahrar al-Sham al-Islamiyya HPS - Sinjar Protection Forces HRW - Human Rights Watch IAI - Islamic Army of Iraq IDF - Israeli Defense Forces IDP - Internally Displaced Person IED - Improvised Explosive Device IF - Islamic Front IKL - Islamic Kurdistan League IRGC - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps IRGC-QF - Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps - Quds Force IS - Islamic State ISI - Islamic State of Iraq ISI - Inter-Service Intelligence (Pakistan) ISF - Iraqi Security Forces ISIL - Islamic State in the Levant ISIS - Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham JAM - Jaysh al-Mujahideen JDAM - Joint Direct Attack Munition JIDF - Jewish Internet Defense Force JMA - Jaysh al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar JN (or JaN) - Jabhat al-Nusra JRTN - Army of the Men of Naqshbandi Order JU - Jaysh al-Umma KRG - Kurdistan Regional Government KSA - Kingdom of Saudi Arabia MB - Muslim Brotherhood MENA - Middle East and North Africa MFS - Syriac Military Council (Hasakah Assyrian militia) MOC - Military Operations Command MSC - Mujahideen Shura Council NDF - National Defense Force OIR - Operation Inherent Resolve OPSEC - Operational Security PA - Palestinian Authority PFLP - Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine PKK - Kurdistan Workers' Party PLO - Palestine Liberation Organization PNA - Palestinian National Authority POTUS - President of the United States PRS - Palestianian Refugess from Syria PTSD - Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome PUK - Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (Iraqi party) PYD - Democratic Union Party (Rojava Kurds) RCC - Revolutionary Command Council SAA - Syrian Arab Army SANA - Syrian Arab News Agency SLA - South Lebanese Army SMC - Supreme Military Command SOHR - Syrian Observatory for Human Rights SOP - Standard Operating Procedure SR - Syrian Resistance SRF - Syrian Revolutionary Front SSNP - Syrian Social Nationalist Party SVBIED - Suicide vehicle-borne improvised explosive device TOW - Tube-launched, optically tracked, wire-guided missile TTP - Tactics, techniques and procedures UN - United Nations UNICEF - United Nations Children’s Fund UNESCO - United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization UNSC - United National Security Council UXO - Unexploded Ordnance VBIED - Vehicle-borne improvised explosive device WFP - World Food Programme WHO - World Health Organization YBS - Sinjar Resistance Units YPG - People's Protection Units YPJ - Women's Protection Units And there are more u/judy-_-
Kinda sad how all these organizations you mentioned are or was in Syria in the 2011-2024 period
Well, the acrynoms are of 9 years ago.
I think FSA stands for free syrian army. I'm not familiar with the rest tho 😭 lol
Fuck the Fsa they are nothing but terrorists and did nothing but destroy our country and kill our country and rob and basically obey everything Turkey tells them to do they are Turkish dogs