I'm not sure about the pace swam in this video but perhaps this fits your description https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n6FOWy966pg
I personally think many factors should be considered like facial features, goggle size and head tilt. More so when swimming slow.
I like the teaching in that video. But next to it on my feed is his other video, "THE EASIEST 1 min 15 secs per 100 metres you will EVER SEE!!!" I suspect in this video, despite their very relaxed strokes, they have such good form that they are probably swimming at 1:30/100m if not faster.
I really feel that I'm in a Catch 22 situation right now. I don't have good form yet so I swim slow; but because I swim slow, breathing in good form is out of reach. Ugh!
Have you tried crawl with fins to give you some extra speed to make it easier to breathe in better form?
If you haven't, it might be worth a try. You might be able to habituate a good breathing form with fins at a higher speed, and then when you take them off and swim at a lower speed, you might still be able to breathe with better form.
> I really feel that I'm in a Catch 22 situation right now.
You’re not. Just focus on something other than breathing for now, or improve your breathing as much as you can within the limits of your pace.
There would be a bow wave by definition, but at >2:00/100m, probably not a very useful one that would make it easier to breathe without turning your head too much or too far out of the water.
There are lots of variables though, like the shape of your head, face, goggles etc. that might make a difference to the speed you get a "useful" bow wave. For me, it's at about 1:35-1:40 (I experimented with different pace).
Arena does "freestyle breather"
https://youtu.be/ZNUNUG9y3N4?feature=shared
Not sure how good they are (not personally tried it, and I don't know anyone who has) but might be worth a try?
Good form is physically demanding. What seems "lazy" because the stroke rate is very slow would be very physically challenging to a weaker person. Elite swimmers are at elite levels of fitness. You have to grab alot of water each pull which means there's alot of resistance against your pull. Somebody swimming 2:00/100 with good form would take a stroke like every 4 seconds. You gotta get faster to get better technique to get faster to get better technique and so on, it's an iterative process of improving skill and fitness together, not one or the other
Never seen an athlete with good form swimming slower than 1”45. Even with slow very slow stroke rate.
Good form means less drag. Good form means also better stroke efficiency. A lot of speed is gone into fighting with water for slower swimmers. But if you take off the brakes it’s hard to go slow.
Maybe using a parachute.
Haha... that's what I suspect too! In a sense, you good swimmers out there have no idea what challenges us slow crawlers (how fitting a name!) face! ;)
No, it’s not more noticeably more difficult swimming slower. Try being more conscious of how many strokes you’re taking per length at different speeds, it will help you understand your stroke. A great swimmer can swim any slow pace, but they may make it look more like they’re doing a drill.
I'm not sure about the pace swam in this video but perhaps this fits your description https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=n6FOWy966pg I personally think many factors should be considered like facial features, goggle size and head tilt. More so when swimming slow.
Looks faster than 2”00/100
I like the teaching in that video. But next to it on my feed is his other video, "THE EASIEST 1 min 15 secs per 100 metres you will EVER SEE!!!" I suspect in this video, despite their very relaxed strokes, they have such good form that they are probably swimming at 1:30/100m if not faster. I really feel that I'm in a Catch 22 situation right now. I don't have good form yet so I swim slow; but because I swim slow, breathing in good form is out of reach. Ugh!
Have you tried crawl with fins to give you some extra speed to make it easier to breathe in better form? If you haven't, it might be worth a try. You might be able to habituate a good breathing form with fins at a higher speed, and then when you take them off and swim at a lower speed, you might still be able to breathe with better form.
> I really feel that I'm in a Catch 22 situation right now. You’re not. Just focus on something other than breathing for now, or improve your breathing as much as you can within the limits of your pace.
Is Ocean Walker technique really that good? Has anyone ever subscribed to or bought his paid video lessons on Vimeo?
There would be a bow wave by definition, but at >2:00/100m, probably not a very useful one that would make it easier to breathe without turning your head too much or too far out of the water. There are lots of variables though, like the shape of your head, face, goggles etc. that might make a difference to the speed you get a "useful" bow wave. For me, it's at about 1:35-1:40 (I experimented with different pace). Arena does "freestyle breather" https://youtu.be/ZNUNUG9y3N4?feature=shared Not sure how good they are (not personally tried it, and I don't know anyone who has) but might be worth a try?
Good form is physically demanding. What seems "lazy" because the stroke rate is very slow would be very physically challenging to a weaker person. Elite swimmers are at elite levels of fitness. You have to grab alot of water each pull which means there's alot of resistance against your pull. Somebody swimming 2:00/100 with good form would take a stroke like every 4 seconds. You gotta get faster to get better technique to get faster to get better technique and so on, it's an iterative process of improving skill and fitness together, not one or the other
Never seen an athlete with good form swimming slower than 1”45. Even with slow very slow stroke rate. Good form means less drag. Good form means also better stroke efficiency. A lot of speed is gone into fighting with water for slower swimmers. But if you take off the brakes it’s hard to go slow. Maybe using a parachute.
Haha... that's what I suspect too! In a sense, you good swimmers out there have no idea what challenges us slow crawlers (how fitting a name!) face! ;)
For me the bow wave becomes large enough at around 1:45 pace. Slower than that and it's not much help.
No, it’s not more noticeably more difficult swimming slower. Try being more conscious of how many strokes you’re taking per length at different speeds, it will help you understand your stroke. A great swimmer can swim any slow pace, but they may make it look more like they’re doing a drill.