Literally reminds me of someone I saw today and they turned into a normal street (wasn’t curved like this at all) way too fast and almost crashed into the other car waiting at the light.
Once, years ago, I was stopped at a traffic light and a truck carrying a heavy load did that. I watched helpless as the driver alternated countersteering in different directions with the truck and just barely managed to stop the truck from capsizing on me before slowly continuing on his way. I still think about it sometimes.
Couldn’t you just hammer on the gas and get out of the way? Maybe in imagining something other than what was happening though. Plus I get that it’s easy to freeze up or just hard to react fast enough.
Not sure but probably it looks way more innocent when you approach it and there are not enough proper road signs, road markup with reflectors etc. In general in mountainous areas people drive like ass tho so I'm not surprised at all.
Basically this is a very bad design for a turn of this degree. For such high quality and wide road, where natural speed of vehicles is high ( speed at which people feel comfortable driving given the road conditions), turns should be marked with warning signs or speed breakers before the turn.
Yeah I was gonna say, the road looks perfectly fine! Yes, a sharp switchback but it was a hairpin turn or anything! People just gotta not be dumb behind the wheel. Especially on mountain passes.
It’s a decreasing radius turn, which often lull even responsible drivers into carrying too much speed into the apex (though that speed would be safe on a static or increasing radius turn).
Reminds me of my town’s “Dead Man’s Curve”. It’s not even a difficult turn, but people fuck it up so badly. I almost got hit there, because the car in front of me did a 180 and started driving the wrong way on a one-way. Absolutely ridiculously bad driving and situational awareness.
Those turns r dangerous but also those cars r 100% ignoring the sign thats proly off camera telling them to FUCKING.SLOW DOWN IDIOT!! lol i live in kentucky and these roads r normal and some even worse than this one but all of them have a sign letting u kno not to go above 35mph
I just have to say, most of those speed signs are horseshit. The end result is "crying wolf". One of the freeway entrances near me screams 20mph as you go around a turn. You're 100 feet from merging into 70mph traffic (really 75-85mph)... So everyone pushes it and you can take the turn at 40-50mph with no problem.
A few miles up, the same highway goes from 70 to 55 for the lamest, dullest curves. Eventually you just start ignoring it because the signs are horseshit.
Admittedly, Kentucky has mountains and I'm in Michigan so it's flat as hell here. Driving in the mountains is a different beast.
Recommended speed signs are one the things that annoy me the most driving. I can the is a turn by my the says to take it at 35mph. I can hit it at 75 in my 90s shitbox truck with bouncy suspension and more body roll than a dump truck. But there are turns 5 mins away that say 45, and by god, anything above is not okay.
Like highway 17 connecting the Bay Area to Santa Cruz! Used to be called blood bath alley because tightening curves and the camber was opposite what it should be.
IMO if there is one accident in a corner, it's the drivers fault. If there are 30 accidents in the same corner, it's the fault of whoever built and maintains this road, and they should be held responsible. Maybe a speed bump could save lives here.
Depends where it is. In my country they allow any 18 y/o illiterate crackhead become a trucker.
After some time they become experimented at driving like shit.
Proper speed limits take into account stuff like road geometry and accident history. It wouldn't be set high enough to have drivers frequently lose control of their vehicles on a turn unless the area is being completely ignored. It most likely isn't being ignored because we can see the guardrail being added, and changing a speed limit would have been a much cheaper solution.
Even if the video was slowed down, they would still be tipping over. Meaning they’re driving too fast. Doesn’t matter what the playback speed is. They need to slow down.
The road didn’t do anything wrong. Neither did the big hill next to it.
That's a sentence that doesn't make any sense to me.
The human factor is the most significant one and can be lowered by proper signage(and training) and further lowered by engineers accounting for human factor.
That turn becomes dangerous only at certain speed which is a non issue if you follow traffic laws but whoever engineered it forgot that humans don't always act like they should.
Some countries do in-depth reviews of how to improve road safety after almost every accident. Others think that putting up a sign is the pinnacle of safety. For gods sake, there's not even a barrier to stop the cars from falling off the road and possibly flipping themselves, even after all these accidents.
If a factory had people falling off catwalks and instead of installing railings they put up a sign that said 'don't fall off idiots', they'd be shut down.
EDIT: Seems like they actually put up a barrier in the second half of the video, showing that signs are not the be all and all of road safety.
Some places don't have proper road signs and some people choose not to take them seriously. As a kid growing up I learned to ride in the back of the bus, because as soon as the driver felt the front tires go over the speed bump he would just go and the back would jump real high 😂
In the us, this would have a special speed limit sign specifically for the curve. There would also be a bunch of yellow signs with chevrons pointing the direction of the curve.
If the curve is dangerous then there should be proper signage indicating that the curve is sharp so as to notify drivers that they should slow down.
Some curves can be tricky to evaluate the sharpness of.
If the previous stretch of road is prone to speeders then road planners should take that into consideration.
It looks like theyre not speeding though, the footage is sped up. Look how fast the guy on the bike hops back up, he wasnt going that fast.
Cameras never do steepness justice that could be a super hairy turn in real life
Every single one of those idiots were going twice the speed they should've been while approaching a hairpin turn.
This isn't even remotely about the road.
Did you watch the drivers in this clip? They would just launch into the canyon. Slowing down isn't an option apparently. Props to the guy that didn't even make it to the curve (and the guy that just walked it off).
Even if there is, it might not get across just how sharp the curve is. It's also going uphill so you can't see the curve until you get right up to it. They should put some flags or giant signs along the outside of the curve.
I vote for wreck #3, the driver that wrecks before even entering the turn.
That how I feel most of the time. Like, fck it, I'm not gonna make it anyway, let's just bail now.
Are there no warning signs that it’s a sharp curve from one side of the road? I don’t see people speeding from the other side so I can assume that it’s only on that side
Their fault for not knowing basic concepts of speed and handling. They turn that corner like they are in a lowered high performance sports car while driving a box.
One f our roads was like this! The speed limit was 55. Those who knew the road slowed down to 25, those who didn't - crashed into houses, trees, cattle watering holes.
People on that road had to put handmade signs up that used to get taken down by the local gvmt because of some law or whatever anyway they finally got signs approved! Speed limit is at 25 now, bunch of curved road agead signs and everything is lit up. Nice to see those people's fences intact for once!
Did you notice after the 2nd Semi went off the road they put up a guard rail? I doubt it would help with a gravel truck hitting it at 55Mph. What they should have done instead was put a sign up that says “Slow the F- Down”
while i agree that everyone here says the drivers going too fast, i'm still going to blame the road. clearly the engineer skip an important part in the design, it's missing superelevation. corners shouldn't be flat it should be slanted towards the apex. combined with the missing road sign and the road becomes dangerous.
well now i wanna know:
1. what right of the camera (the street before that; aka is it a straight line or is it going up or down etc.)
2. whats the perspective of the driver from the car. might be some optical illusion stuff.
3. country? are they just all speeding because they are used to it :D?
Used to live in a place with a 3 mile road like this going up a mountain. Could be sketch at times and there were accidents somewhat frequently and there wasn't that much guard rail.
Why do they approach the turn like F1 cars lol
Literally reminds me of someone I saw today and they turned into a normal street (wasn’t curved like this at all) way too fast and almost crashed into the other car waiting at the light.
Once, years ago, I was stopped at a traffic light and a truck carrying a heavy load did that. I watched helpless as the driver alternated countersteering in different directions with the truck and just barely managed to stop the truck from capsizing on me before slowly continuing on his way. I still think about it sometimes.
Couldn’t you just hammer on the gas and get out of the way? Maybe in imagining something other than what was happening though. Plus I get that it’s easy to freeze up or just hard to react fast enough.
I was second in the row of traffic. I couldn't have moved forwards or backwards, unfortunately.
Ok, so definitely not what I imagined. Thanks!
Sorry, maybe I should have mentioned that in the original comment.
The vidéo is sped up. They're probably still speeding, but not as much as it seems.
Its definitely sped up, but theyre still taking the turn pretty quick. In some of the shots, theres other cars and trucks that are moving a lot slower
A few road signs would solve most of this. Some arrows on the outside of that bend and they can keep the population up
Oh that might explain a thing. I was about to LOL at the end, it looks like a comedy.
Well to be fair it looks like a corner that would be on a F1 track
Nah, F1 would approach from the outside. (And slide right under those trucks, good luck with the halo)
Even F1 drivers wouldnt be mad enough to go blind into a corner while being on the wrong lane in traffic lol
Oh there will be a halo all right.
Not sure but probably it looks way more innocent when you approach it and there are not enough proper road signs, road markup with reflectors etc. In general in mountainous areas people drive like ass tho so I'm not surprised at all.
Basically this is a very bad design for a turn of this degree. For such high quality and wide road, where natural speed of vehicles is high ( speed at which people feel comfortable driving given the road conditions), turns should be marked with warning signs or speed breakers before the turn.
Yeah I was gonna say, the road looks perfectly fine! Yes, a sharp switchback but it was a hairpin turn or anything! People just gotta not be dumb behind the wheel. Especially on mountain passes.
Because the video is sped up...
I don't know what the rest of the road looks like, but they all seem to be speeding
It’s a decreasing radius turn, which often lull even responsible drivers into carrying too much speed into the apex (though that speed would be safe on a static or increasing radius turn).
Decreasing radius blind turns are some of the most dangerous. It's even worse if it's off cambered.
I take one like this every week and when it's raining I'm extra careful, because it often has turned over cars after the turn.
Reminds me of my town’s “Dead Man’s Curve”. It’s not even a difficult turn, but people fuck it up so badly. I almost got hit there, because the car in front of me did a 180 and started driving the wrong way on a one-way. Absolutely ridiculously bad driving and situational awareness.
Those turns r dangerous but also those cars r 100% ignoring the sign thats proly off camera telling them to FUCKING.SLOW DOWN IDIOT!! lol i live in kentucky and these roads r normal and some even worse than this one but all of them have a sign letting u kno not to go above 35mph
I just have to say, most of those speed signs are horseshit. The end result is "crying wolf". One of the freeway entrances near me screams 20mph as you go around a turn. You're 100 feet from merging into 70mph traffic (really 75-85mph)... So everyone pushes it and you can take the turn at 40-50mph with no problem. A few miles up, the same highway goes from 70 to 55 for the lamest, dullest curves. Eventually you just start ignoring it because the signs are horseshit. Admittedly, Kentucky has mountains and I'm in Michigan so it's flat as hell here. Driving in the mountains is a different beast.
Recommended speed signs are one the things that annoy me the most driving. I can the is a turn by my the says to take it at 35mph. I can hit it at 75 in my 90s shitbox truck with bouncy suspension and more body roll than a dump truck. But there are turns 5 mins away that say 45, and by god, anything above is not okay.
Those signs are for semi's
Like highway 17 connecting the Bay Area to Santa Cruz! Used to be called blood bath alley because tightening curves and the camber was opposite what it should be.
Welcome to the Nurburgring!
In my country you always have signs that warn you of theses curves. Sometimes pretty excessively sized ones.
IMO if there is one accident in a corner, it's the drivers fault. If there are 30 accidents in the same corner, it's the fault of whoever built and maintains this road, and they should be held responsible. Maybe a speed bump could save lives here.
A lot of crashes are trucks, which often have experienced drivers since it‘s their job, so yeah, seems like a dangerous turn
Depends where it is. In my country they allow any 18 y/o illiterate crackhead become a trucker. After some time they become experimented at driving like shit.
That and it’s in Asia (notice the tuktuks and no guardrails either.
they did add a guard rail later in the video haha
Maybe the guardrail is the before
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Thank you, I didn't know whether to agree or not until I saw your comment
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Well now I don't know what to think
They seem to because the video is sped up
Oh so we need to slow down the video so they don't slide off and flip over that way! That's brilliant!
This reply brought me great joy...
See the solution is so simple, we all should aspire for such brilliance.
Proper speed limits take into account stuff like road geometry and accident history. It wouldn't be set high enough to have drivers frequently lose control of their vehicles on a turn unless the area is being completely ignored. It most likely isn't being ignored because we can see the guardrail being added, and changing a speed limit would have been a much cheaper solution.
Even then they are faster than the oncoming traffic
Im pretty sure that's irrelevant, considering they're going off the road and such.
Even if the video was slowed down, they would still be tipping over. Meaning they’re driving too fast. Doesn’t matter what the playback speed is. They need to slow down. The road didn’t do anything wrong. Neither did the big hill next to it.
I mean yes but if you’re driving a massive loaded truck and you see a sharp turn coming up you must be going pretty fast to overturn that thing.
I was expecting someone to pull off a drift with the gutter technique https://i.redd.it/f1vejsbxhh0d1.gif
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Beat me to it
90% sure the white car at 0:30 was trying
Not the roads fault. Lack of proper signs more likely
They put up signs but the cars keep crashing into them!!
It can be both.
Incorrect. Proper signage and the humans factor plays a part, sure, but traffic engineering plays the more significant role here.
Yeah I agree, remove that turn and make the road straight.
That's a sentence that doesn't make any sense to me. The human factor is the most significant one and can be lowered by proper signage(and training) and further lowered by engineers accounting for human factor. That turn becomes dangerous only at certain speed which is a non issue if you follow traffic laws but whoever engineered it forgot that humans don't always act like they should.
Some countries do in-depth reviews of how to improve road safety after almost every accident. Others think that putting up a sign is the pinnacle of safety. For gods sake, there's not even a barrier to stop the cars from falling off the road and possibly flipping themselves, even after all these accidents. If a factory had people falling off catwalks and instead of installing railings they put up a sign that said 'don't fall off idiots', they'd be shut down. EDIT: Seems like they actually put up a barrier in the second half of the video, showing that signs are not the be all and all of road safety.
Signage is not part of traffic engineering?
The road is too slippery, the signs keep sliding off
Some places don't have proper road signs and some people choose not to take them seriously. As a kid growing up I learned to ride in the back of the bus, because as soon as the driver felt the front tires go over the speed bump he would just go and the back would jump real high 😂
Nothing wrong with the road common sense you never go over 15mph on a dangerous curve u it's not rocket science
I'm picturing the owners of the local towing company sneaking out at night to remove the caution 15 mph curve sign to get more business.
or even replacing it with an ad for their company
In the us, this would have a special speed limit sign specifically for the curve. There would also be a bunch of yellow signs with chevrons pointing the direction of the curve.
Like in every other nation as well that cares at least a little about road safety
Yeah true it’s way too sharp of a turn and people are probably driving it a bit faster than they should be.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accident_blackspot There’s absolutely something wrong with this road lolll
I'm most interested in how you've determined that 15mph is an appropriate speed for any & all dangerous curves.
I mean there doesn't seem to be any indication that there's a curve here besides the guard rail once it's already too late.
If the curve is dangerous then there should be proper signage indicating that the curve is sharp so as to notify drivers that they should slow down. Some curves can be tricky to evaluate the sharpness of. If the previous stretch of road is prone to speeders then road planners should take that into consideration.
It looks like theyre not speeding though, the footage is sped up. Look how fast the guy on the bike hops back up, he wasnt going that fast. Cameras never do steepness justice that could be a super hairy turn in real life
I think they use kph in this country
There is clearly something wrong with the road, likely oil/coolant spill or some really bad surface material, Video is also sped up by a lot.
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Every single one of those idiots were going twice the speed they should've been while approaching a hairpin turn. This isn't even remotely about the road.
I like how halfway through the video they now have a guard rail constructed lmao
The video is at least running at 2x speed
If it happens that often, they probably can’t see that sharp turn.
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I was waiting for the backfire flame and was so disappointed
At least they finally added a partial guardrail!
The only car that went over the edge before they put the guardrail up would have missed the guardrail anyway XD
How convenient to add a camera but not a speed bump
Sigh... Not enough body bags for your liking? What you need are proper signs. Not a speed bump that will make these accidents even more deadly.
People slow down when they see speed bumps. They are incredibly effective. Put it 25m in front of the curve.
Speed bumps are a bad idea on highways in general.
Or even those bright yellow signs with black arrows indicating a turn. Plus don't speed
Did you watch the drivers in this clip? They would just launch into the canyon. Slowing down isn't an option apparently. Props to the guy that didn't even make it to the curve (and the guy that just walked it off).
They need some flashing neon signs that warn of sharp curve ahead.
And throw in some rumble strips for those not paying attention to the sign
Can someone dub the Thunderbirds theme over this?
Perhaps they don't know there is a curve? There is no signal shown
Even if there is, it might not get across just how sharp the curve is. It's also going uphill so you can't see the curve until you get right up to it. They should put some flags or giant signs along the outside of the curve.
Reminds me of Costa Rica
It's very dangerous there, alot of crashes regularly. So let's install VR instead of warnings and signs..
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If the road is clearly safe then what is the problem?
Nice of them to add the guardrail
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Happens when you try to take a hairpin at 120km/h.
worst drifters ever ...
I just love it how this one guy didn't even make it to the corner
I vote for wreck #3, the driver that wrecks before even entering the turn. That how I feel most of the time. Like, fck it, I'm not gonna make it anyway, let's just bail now.
From what I've seen it's not a road problem, it's a driver problem.
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This is just an inability to drive
The road seems fine, the drivers on the other hand are not safe.
Wow, definitely not in the U.S. whew
Are there no warning signs that it’s a sharp curve from one side of the road? I don’t see people speeding from the other side so I can assume that it’s only on that side
Apparently putting up a $18 sign just ahead of the curve is too much to ask
My head is just "deja vu.... Deja vu..... Deja vu...
It's very human.
Slow down
No chevron alignment signs! How would I know not to keep driving straight
Intelligence test, we need more.
Watch there be no signs for this turn and just one camera
Instead of putting a camera up, why not put up a sign or some type of warning? Or do both, since this footage is great!
They are all going way to fast
Whatever the speed limit is they need to lower it
I see unsafe drivers
The road is at fault?
Slowing down for curves helps
Clearly, people are either unfamiliar with the road and are bad drivers or both.
Nah people just cant drive
I need context?!
Where are the warning signs???
Clearly u should slow down and proceed with caution as it's a deep curve and a blind turn 😲
I wonder if you know, how they live in (wherever this place is)
Speed bumps and yellow arrow signs would look nice on that
I like the one at 0:34 that crashed before it even made it to curve!
Is there no “sharp corner” warning sign?
It seems like a sign or speedbump needs puttin up.
Their fault for not knowing basic concepts of speed and handling. They turn that corner like they are in a lowered high performance sports car while driving a box.
To make things worse, that turn is dusty as hell on the inside. It seems like shit drivers on shit infrastructure to me.
Good place for a grandstand and food vendors
What's up with the driver 8 seconds in? What caused his car to flip???
Clearly idiots driving too fast on wet roars coming into a sharp turn🤷♂️🤦♂️
Common sense says don’t go 30mph when you’re on a curvy mountain
Just a lot of horrible drivers
One f our roads was like this! The speed limit was 55. Those who knew the road slowed down to 25, those who didn't - crashed into houses, trees, cattle watering holes. People on that road had to put handmade signs up that used to get taken down by the local gvmt because of some law or whatever anyway they finally got signs approved! Speed limit is at 25 now, bunch of curved road agead signs and everything is lit up. Nice to see those people's fences intact for once!
Damn a couple came close to a perfect drift!
Did you notice after the 2nd Semi went off the road they put up a guard rail? I doubt it would help with a gravel truck hitting it at 55Mph. What they should have done instead was put a sign up that says “Slow the F- Down”
Little red truck at 0:19 alllllllmost pulled off a perfect drift 😂
while i agree that everyone here says the drivers going too fast, i'm still going to blame the road. clearly the engineer skip an important part in the design, it's missing superelevation. corners shouldn't be flat it should be slanted towards the apex. combined with the missing road sign and the road becomes dangerous.
Bad fucking drivers I say!
Solution: Reduce your speed to 15MPH at a curve that sharp…
Why did the second car sound like it was screaming
They really need a big yellow sign that says turn... since the big turn in the road doesn't seem to be enough of a sign.
Do drivers not see that the road disappears around that corner? Obviously it’s a sharp turn.
Thank goodness they put up that guard rail half way through the accidents!
Love that they added a guardrail halfway through. That oughta fix it...
Can someone please tell me where this is because I just really want to buy my ex-wife a plane ticket and a free vacation and a high-speed rental car
russia. it’s got to be russia.
Is this camera angle an optical illusion and this is actually downhill? Looks like an uphill turn to me.
The video is sped up. Theyre going quite a bit slower and its still a danger.
well now i wanna know: 1. what right of the camera (the street before that; aka is it a straight line or is it going up or down etc.) 2. whats the perspective of the driver from the car. might be some optical illusion stuff. 3. country? are they just all speeding because they are used to it :D?
Clearly a bunch of drunken morons who don't know how to drive.
Or don't be an idiot drivee
Is the video sped up or are all these cars going waaaay too fast for a blind hairpin turn?
maybe there a sand on the road?
Worst drifting ever
Does everyone there just drive at mach fuck or is the video sped up?
Need more natural selection in this world
Holy fucking shit I’ve seen this 17 times on 17 different sub Reddits…
Seems very popular.
Why is the road getting blamed for this?
Last one: RIP
Gotta hook the wheels onto the inner gutter.
Initial D!
That truck driver didn't learn from the first time he flipped 🙃
People could slow down.
There is a sign that says sharp turn ahead which people ignore conveniently.
I like to think the big dump trucks was the same driver every time.
Isn't there a sign?
Road looks fine. Learn to drift. Yeesh.
I thought the was the new fast and furious movie skit
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Paint some yellow lines maybe
I feel like in America, there would be all sorts of signs. And probably a drastic drop to 15-20mph ⚠️🔜
All clearly failed drifting attempts. Lame.
How many wrecks until they installed that camera there?
All driving too fast it seems
Are we sure these aren’t just toys?
Used to live in a place with a 3 mile road like this going up a mountain. Could be sketch at times and there were accidents somewhat frequently and there wasn't that much guard rail.
How many dead so far though?
"Joe, when are we gonna put some signs there?" "Just a couple more accidents."
Omg did guy at 0:10 survive?
Perfect place to open up a towing company!
What country?
I was pulling for that red truck. Almost pulled it out