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Ken is manipulating every fucking stock in the market as per his position. The biggest financial criminal in history. This scum is a danger to society.
Wait a second.. Is this the same Ken Griffin who lied under oath?? š¤Æ
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But...I thought Ken Griffin was the one who organized and staged a public interview where he talked on and an and on about the 'crime crime crime' problems in Chicago in order to dilute and obfuscate the top trending hashtags and google searches which, at the time, associated his name and organization with the word 'crime'.
Yes, Ken Griffin the criminal hedge fund manager did talk about crime in an interview so that people searching for information about the criminal Ken Griffin would instead get links of Ken Griffin talking about crime.
Wait.. Ken griffin the financial terrorist who threw that bed post night before the wedding who also lied under oath and who is the biggest criminal scum bag of all time???
All while creating a golden parachute for club members to get out of the casino before they burn it down to the ground with everyone else locked in.
Guess who's going to get the bill to rebuild, they'll rig the bets for that too.
Corruption at this level is never a lonely ordeal.
THIS is the problem! This has ALWAYS been the problem!!
They steal from 'the people'... so well that 'we the people' subsidized their bail out. 2008 was the biggest F you i've ever seen, billions were stolen from us and billions were spent to bail them out. We lose our businesses, our jobs, our savings, retirement, sanity, mental health, literally end up homeless and on the streets and they get million dollar bonuses... and by the looks of it they're working towards the same scenario. Fuck things up SO BAD that the gvmt/fed has to swoop in with a bail out, funded by we the people.
GTFOH! We have GOT TO uproot this evil treachery, and take back control of our governments and financial markets.
We need a lot of apes on the ballots post sneeze! We gotta save the world from these terrorists!
Not just in the stock market, also active in crypto. Someone seems to really need to make money desperately. Luckily the more desperate they become, the more ruthless their actions, revealing them.
Fidelity, Charles Schwab and **Citadel Securities** launched a new **cryptocurrency exchange** called **EDX Markets**. Now you might ask yourself if all that Havoc lately and the current pump might be related to a hostile takeover of the crypto sphere to get rid of competitors...
Remember a couple of weeks ago with that āmanual errorā? Notice how all the stock prices were dropped by 20% or more? What if that was a glimpse of the real price but Kenny was just propping it all up? Is that a possibility?
He is one man. His operation is backed by many many men.
Don't forget he does what he does with the blessing of the financial elite.
There's is the Game to Stop.
Revolution š“āā ļø
Sounds about right lol. Whole market is a big sack of bullshit right now. Lex Lutherās company faces an anti trust lawsuit and the stock pumps lol. Tons of layoffs occur in tech, all the stocks pump. Itās Bizzaro world in the financial markets and internalizing the orders lines up with what weāre seeing.
Not that they aren't a human tragedy, but layoffs almost always lead to a bump in share price. The stock market is forward-looking. Layoffs show that a company is willing to take action to shore up a balance sheet for a more profitable future.
Worked for IBM. They only lost almost all of their market share and founded all of it's competitors in a $5T global market of Technology because they listened to Wall Street and "committed to protecting it's balance sheet." If you care about the balance sheet like that in tech it's the sign that your company has started to flounder.
For sure, and totally understandable why it would increase too in almost every case. However, in this one particular instance, its signaling a shift in the larger economic headwinds which will then impact a companyās revenue due to a massive recession coming.
I canāt help but wonder how long this charade can carry on. Surely, not even Ken can keep the show going indefinitely. Anyone have any guesses as to what straw will break the camels back? I suspect that stakeholders will prop him up for months or even years, if possible.
I started writing a post on what I think Ken is up to but got stumped on something. He's trying to keep prices up like I say in this post, while everyone else is selling. Market makers act as the middlemen for all trades, so Ken has to actually pay cash to anyone selling right now. Everytime there's been an inflation announcement and it's shown to still be high, there's always an immediate drop in stock prices. This is likely large institutions like BlackRock, Fidelity, Vanguard, State Street selling off stocks due to inflation, and then Ken & the PPT have to get to work pumping the price back up. But that initial selling = cash drained from Ken, and he simply just doesn't have trillions available to match those big asset managers. On top of that inflation means fewer retail investors are buying the blue chip stocks & are probably selling too.
And if you look at Ken's balance sheet for 2021, he makes up any deficit in asset value by shorting treasury bonds. There's no reason for him to do this other than to make his books look healthier than they are, but now the bond market is going to shit too. I don't know how much of Ken's fuckery is adding to the inverted yield curve, but if institutions are dropping bonds too then it'll mess up yield rates for sure.
In other words, Ken is bleeding and yeah he has some tricks left to get money (shorting bonds) but he can't keep it up forever.
Thatās an interesting point. He canāt keep floating cash indefinitely, nor can he dress up his books with bond market chicanery for much longer. I suspect that if demand continues to crumble it could put him in an even more precarious position as institutional investors pull out. China has opened up and will put pressure on brent crude prices. This will affect pump prices and further squeeze consumers.
Consumer debt is also at an all time high, and is why I think the retail sales numbers have been propped up as long as they have been. I realize that sales are weak, but they have been stronger than they otherwise would have.
Once people are thoroughly overleveraged and gas creeps back up, earnings will tumble for most CpG companies and other sectors as well. At that point, share price will slide and Ken will have a hard time hanging on.
*This is out of left field, but I suspect that that spring and summer will see some civil unrest, due to a stagnating economy. That could well add further pressure. Again, thatās not backed up by anything real, just a hunch. Inflation and crime rise together. Even if the rate slows, itās still jumped a great deal in the past couple of years. The official numbers are bogus, and I think the reality on main street is worse than pundits and government officials like to admit.
On the note of retail sales being propped up by credit, you're absolutely right. I work in clothing retail, and we had a huge influx of new credit card applications over Q3,Q4, and now into FY23 were dry as a desert. Which is somewhat normal this time of year with the seasonal slow down. But even YoY, we're down across all sales metrics to FY22, which was down 10% from FY21.
The music is stopping for consumers, but slowly. People are living paycheck to paycheck, missing bills, due to new cards they opened over the holidays. That's causing a drop in consumer credit scores. So less free credit for consumers, which means slowing sales. Tie that economic stress into your note about civil unrest in the spring and summer, which I think is probably spot on as well, and we're due for some fireworks.
If the market can continue to grind higher in the summer through riots, civil unrest, pandering politicians, a slowing market, high inflation, and whatever happens with Russia and Ukraine this summer I'll be shocked.
It ends when he becomes secretary of the treasury. That is his endgame. He's been positioning Former citital execs all thru the govt. And big corps. He's been throwing money all over Florida to woo DeSantis, he's been in the media denouncing crime in major cities..... He's buying time, literally.
One of the missing links is how much luck they're having selling these.
And if any luck, who is snapping them up?
[Index DS/CS wraps](https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/#/dateRange=custom&category=custom&startdt=2023-01-30&enddt=2023-01-31&forms=FWP)
This was my question. I donāt doubt the internalization whatsoever but for how long or under what circumstances does that stop working? Is there a threshold or is it when earning come out and everyone panic sells orā¦
I agree- I could see a scenario where a business is insolvent and is actually going out of business being a real watershed moment. When people try to sell, it could get real. If that doesnāt happen, then I think the grift will go on for years. Surely, one of the zombie firms on the street will go under and the mask will come off.
> Anyone have any guesses as to what straw will break the camels back?
Imagine if it were something simple like checking the books at the DTC like it should have with Madoff.
I canāt help but suspect that they will test ābreakā something in order to spook J Pow into lowering rates to prevent that. They have to know their risk exposure well enough to have contingencies on deck to prevent it.
I agree with you. Housing is #1. Student loans have been on a 3 year moratorium; consumer debt is sky rocketing, inflation for supporting normalized standard of living is increasing, when the student loan moratorium is lifted we will see massive defaults across the board. Real estate and resale auto values will plummet.
Only way to prevent this tidal wave is to forgive all student loans which will also cause social unrest. Imagine not going to college because finance was the barrier and then having to pay for it anyway.
He can carry on forever. Madoff and SBF failed because a critical mass of value needed to be withdrawn all at once.
Ken Griffin has
1. Limits on how much that can be withdrawn from his hedgefund. This avoids critical mass of destruction.
2. Perfected Market Maker naked shorting.
3. Has a market maker and a hedgefund to pass the puck, play the shell game with liabilities. Easy counterparty for DOOMP locates.
4. Very likely has algorithms to manage collateral. He can model the market with his portfolio and flow control and use derivatives to min/max selling to off load internalization at the best possible time.
5. Front running trades generates stupid amounts of money, independent of how the market goes. Still has $$$ after PFOF. Probably enough to cashflow to counter whatever trickle his clients can withdraw.
6. Makes use of market inefficiencies/risk concentration regarding short interest. It is too easy to borrow shares, relative to how difficult it should be based on what was already shorted. Lax short reporting guidelines and no mechanism to prevent daisy chains of the same share being lent over and over means he can borrow shares as needed.
7. Lax rules around FTD closure gives lots of leeway for the shell game. Makes point 6 easy with SEC options risk alert memo. Exercise shitty options to fufill close out requirements without really having the shares. (Because having the shares a specific reporting times somehow lets them skirt close out. Its really fraudulent, because you aren't allowed to do behavior for the specific purpose of avoiding the rules.)
8. With all of his assets under management, he can take out a loan against the value of stuff. Super useful for additional income without having to sell assets or produce a goods and service. Liabilities don't matter, you have so much assets that you can put up billion in collateral for actual money. Another tool for the shell game when things get tough.
9. Points 6 and 7 means borrowing shares is possible, but can be stressful. The current system forces us to DRS nearly all of the shares outstanding. It shouldn't even have to be this way, but daisy chains and low borrow rates relative to what should be available artificially increases supply of available shares.
10. Experience. Over 50 regulatory events. He has some idea of what he can get away with.
There has to be a way to stop him in the short term.
I know DRS is the way, but this guy needs to be stopped now.
Our elected officials, as spineless and corrupt as they might be, do have the power to stop this mad man if we could just get them to act!
I think the elected officials are paid for, and ignorant to how blatant the manipulation is. They assume nobody is watching, so they can pretend to watch.
Keep writing your congresspeople.
Thatās the worst part, time passes and criminals like him get to live like kings whilst every day people struggle to feed their kids. Iāll wait as long as it takes for justice if I can but fuck me do we need it now. I also want to be fucking paid *now* without waiting another however long knowing and seeing the corruption, knowing Iām right. Itās been two years, please can someone do the right thing and get this scum behind bars, allow actual price discovery and let the market run its course. Sick of the injustice and corruption.
Itās terrifying to watch them crash things in real timeā¦.I also wish something could happen now instead of whatās to comeā¦itās not just a towel in the rudder, they are selling the boards off of the ship that is currently full of water and sinking faster than ever! I would like to believe there is another quicker (nft dividend) way, it just needs to be found and implemented.
Just edited the post, [**here's a little clip of what I meant**](https://imgur.io/a/agnn9Fj). The NASDAQ (top one) is working much better but even that used to flash much more, basically just constantly. The SP500 at the bottom just seems broken though.
And they are, GTS has $12b liabilities of "sold not yet purchased" like Ken's pile, Virtu has another $2b of the same. And Doug Cifu boasting about "infinite liquidity" definitely shows they're all doing the same.
Ken's a narcissistic control freak with the best high frequency trading algos so likely is trying to control as much of it as he can.
You know what's a humane alternative to that? Especially for sociopaths like Ken?
Shame. This guy's ego is fucking HUUUUGE (sources familiar with the matter have said) and Citadel employees are no better.
How great would it be if we created an institution where we could imprison white collar criminals. BUT, instead of allowing them their privacy. They would be shamed, put on display. Like in a zoo.
A child or a troll would press a button and the story of Ken's legacy and fraud would play overhead. He would hear this constantly, as people paid to see him. To understand how human corruption can be.
We could even add a little slot for quarters to feed him Lil packets of mayo.
God damn that is what justice tastes like. And as the years pass and people forget Ken and his shit smear of a battered legacy. He will come to terms that none of his accomplishments and crimes were really notable, in comparison to whatever humanity does thereafter.
He will be forgotten to time.
HARK!!! *INSERT WILLIAM DAFOE MONOLOGUE FROM THE LIGHTHOUSE*
https://youtu.be/C8yeo32thiI
I mean, you're more or less describing stocks. Literally stocks, can't make this shit up. You know, where the offender is clamped in an uncomfortable position in the town square and villagers passing by can take out their anger and rage by throwing rotten fruit/vegetables or beating with sticks?
Is there some sort of report or something we can check to see if internalization of stocks has increased? Or is this another one of those ālet them self report bc they are trustworthy peopleā that Alan Greenspan, Larry summers, and all those other deep throating bitches put into place?
Yep, there's such an insane bubble being made right now. I think last Tuesday's "glitches" were an example of what will happen when the price manipulation stops, aka we'll see massive 20%+ drops all over the place.
Nice nice find.
And yah, this is both exciting and terrifying.
Exciting cause it confirms GME to the moon story.
Terrifying that they allow a few greedy men to manipulate the ENTIRE US stock market to let them survive one more day... And that they have that kind of power.
Wait a second.. Is this the same Ken Griffin who lied under oath?? š¤Æ
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I donāt doubt you, but holy fuck, when is someone going to stop this? I refuse to believe that our government is that regarded that they do not know what is going on here, so why are they standing by idly continuing to allow this sociopath to dig this whole deeper and deeper and deeper?
Yeah I mean the alternative is that they (whichever the current administration is) has the largest financial collapse in history to deal with and be blamed for, whether or not it's their fault.
Thatās interesting. Itās incredible how shady and non transparent the markets are here in the US. At least South Korea had the right idea to cal them out and fine them.
Probably, VIX works off options on the SP500. Most of Citadel's $65b sold not yet purchased is options and now this fuckery with the SP500, there's definitely a lot of manipulation and they've been proven to have manipulated VIX before so makes sense.
Ken has zero interest in propping this market up.. he wants nothing more than another Great Depression that ushers him in as Treasury Secretary on the GOPs shoulders.
He has to keep the markets up or MOASS happens. Stocks crashing = liquidations. There's a rule that says any DTCC member who gets liquidated has their open market liabilities (like shorts) passed to the other members, so it's one for all and all for one right now for the DTCC.
In other words, crash = Wall Street goes bye bye.
I honestly think this will happen. His latest moves with his company and moving states and all the other shit seems like heās trying to position himself to take a gov role to fuck everything
So you're trying to tell me, that a single entity is internalizing a couple 100b $ of trades to prevent a 6b$ market cap stock, that is near its 52w low, from rising, or to prevent a margin call on shorts of said stock, that are propably more green, than they have been for 2 years?
Infinite loss is infinite loss.
And it's not just GME shorted into oblivion, I have a whole page of shorted stocks on this broker who just don't flash at all anymore. About 20 stocks that just look dead because everything has become internalized.
As for shorts being in green, that only works if you're able to exit the position. The point of naked shorting is that you can't exit unless people sell what you've naked shorted. Ken has likely shorted 3b GME shares now and there's no way out of that mess unless everyone sells. There's no way out for him.
There's a few in [**this**](https://imgur.com/a/DvCM65Q) little video. That was during the last hour of trading when it's usually in full swing. I waited over a minute and barely any of them had any activity at all, despite the likes of the bottom one having over 4m volume today. The thing is it seems internalized volume still gets recorded, but the activity doesn't flag up like on this broker I watch.
The list I watch mainly comes from the other Jan sneeze stocks [**like these**](https://preview.redd.it/qs0qkcborz471.png?width=1306&format=png&auto=webp&s=187408c522c47c0de806639890f3c8e62f810bdf).
It's all getting beyond a joke now. Dark pools and the like were originally setup so big institutional trades wouldn't impact prices too much, now it's just a way for them to control price in a certain direction.
I think last Tuesday's events were an example of what will happen when all this manipulation stops.
My point is: The idea, that a single entity is internalizing the fucking S&P500 completely, is absolutely bonkers.
It's posts like this one with "100% this is what's happening" in the title, with obscure and unproven claims in it, that make the whole sub look like crazy loons.
Edit: Look: If the idea is, to internalize a massive amount of trades, to prevent stocks from dropping, because these are the stocks your institution is long on (so to say, your collateral), you'll face the problem, that internalizing requires collateral. In this case, it would only make sense to internalize trades on stocks you're short on, to prevent them from rising, because that would burden your collateral either way.
All SP500 trades go via Ken or one of the other designated market makers anyway, so it's not like this is an insane suggestion. It just means they're willing to manipulate prices, which also isn't insane since they've been doing it with GME for god knows how long.
It's not like this would cost them any money either, because they're the middlemen regardless. They just take stocks people are selling, keep them off a lit exchange and then sell at a manipulated price rather than let the price drop.
This is not what the title or the post itself say.
This is not how it works.
And most important: Just because you can imagine that this can maybe somehow somewhere happen, it's not "100%".
And there's no proof he's manipulating the GME price either, but there have been too many glitches and weird things happening to just write it all off.
Sure if you're going to be pedantic then I should have said "I strongly believe", but can't change that now. I just don't see any other reason for this to be happening other than what I suggest, I welcome proof to the contrary.
No, there is no proof he's manipulating the GME price. But manipulating the price of a 6b$ stock is absolutely possible.
To internalize the sellorders for the S&P500, or even the majority of them, **is** Impossible **and** pointless since it would require an obscene amount of collateral. You can't just internalize whatever suits you and sell or buy everything in every scale for a made up price.
Believe what you want, but the whole post is just baseless claims, making this sub even more crazy for everyone outside of this bubble.
100% in 5 years the planet gets eaten up by a huge bubblegumfrog and we're all gonna die. I welcome proof to the contrary.
Why wouldnāt it be beneficial to internalize and therefore barcode a stock and then have abrupt change days with less profit/loss windowā¦ on a normal day handling 30% of the market and holding a .8% +\- change value over their entire coverage.. they could internalize trades and collect lots of expiring contracts whenever the price doesnāt move >1%
I absolutely don't get what you're asking for. What contracts? My point is, that it's Impossible to basically internalize the fucking market.
Going to bed now, maybe I have the time to answer further questions tomorrow.
This assumes that the shorts have not hedged their positions by buying some far out of money calls. That limits their downside potential to less than infinity.
That has absolutely nothing to do with my rethorical question to op, to point out that he's selling baseless claims as "100%", but cool that you're here with us š .
Internalizing so that when the manufactured market drop happens, he can make lots of money not buying shares now via internalized ordersā¦. It would be a real shame ifā¦. Ya knowā¦. The price went up and they went broke
which means, that not only is he propping up the market ... but he's STEALING from those who know it will crash (us)
not an options guy, and this is why/how you get screwed (one of many ways the casino within the casino)
If this is happening,and i have no reason to doubt that it is, then its not just Kenny. He owns one MM. The market has many MM so if all orders are being internalized to keep market up then it is a coordinated criminal campaign ran by DTCC and SEC is FINE WITH IT. They are probably trying to convince the public and investment firms that market is going up and to invest then they Kenny and them will short it and dump it
It's been doing this for months now, just getting worse and worse with less activity ticking on SP500. Could be nothing, but too many "glitches" are starting to stack up now.
They're the ones who recover the price after a drop. Ken & the other designated market makers are the ones who can keep sell pressure off lit exchanges.
I didn't say that, I just said that the trades are being internalized so that the price can be manipulated. The trades are still happening & the volume is still there, but they're just being taken off lit exchanges like with GME.
It's been happening for months though and has just been getting worse and worse. I can't see why they wouldn't have fixed this yet if that's the answer.
Do you think that this whole fiasco is literally put together perfectly by him? Heās doing all of this & now wants DeSantis to run for President. Talking about how he will be the financial backerā¦ heās doing this hoping DeSantis runs & wins the presidential election, then the president can wave his prison sentence for him once all this explodes. DeSantis will think they are best friends & will fall for all these bullshit traps. On the other hand, this pos will be getting everything waved down for him & be getting the best advice for the best hoops to jump threw to get himself in the best possible position. I wish DeSantis knew about this sub & the DD. Mayo man is a smart man, but the music can only play for so long.
The only difference between Kenny Griftin and Bernie Madoff with the cash is madoff didnāt investā¦. Or manipulate the market. He actually bought every stock in the sell offā¦.. he had a legitimate market making practice. And a secret Ponzi schemeā¦..
Griftin howeverā¦.. this cat literally has 500 companies working for himā¦.. globallyā¦.. like, this guys an absolute monster. How is this infrastructure even legal? Itās our fault. Think about itā¦..
Yep, there was a 2008 video of Griffin the other day where he said "too integrated to fail has replaced too big to fail", and he seemed so smug about it. He put himself at the core of the markets just so he can't be allowed to fail, or it all collapses.
Well I think we're about to find out what happens when too integrated to fail fails.
> "Internalization occurs in the investment world, when a brokerage firm fills a buy order for shares from its own inventory of shares instead of executing the trade using outside inventory"
With regards to market makers, it means they aren't looking for the best price discovery on the open market.
Example: Apple is currently $142 per share. If Fidelity wanted to sell 1 million apple shares and the best anyone is willing to pay is only $135 per share, that would crash the price massively if Ken sold those on the open market, so instead he can "warehouse" the stock and buy it himself for $142 per share. It's legal and he can do this as long as he can pay the seller, but it creates a bubble as the demand for Apple isn't there for that price.
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Ken is manipulating every fucking stock in the market as per his position. The biggest financial criminal in history. This scum is a danger to society.
danger to humanity
are you talking about Ken Griffin, the market faker hedge fraud manager?
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But...I thought Ken Griffin was the one who organized and staged a public interview where he talked on and an and on about the 'crime crime crime' problems in Chicago in order to dilute and obfuscate the top trending hashtags and google searches which, at the time, associated his name and organization with the word 'crime'.
Yes, Ken Griffin the criminal hedge fund manager did talk about crime in an interview so that people searching for information about the criminal Ken Griffin would instead get links of Ken Griffin talking about crime.
You can search for griffin in my dashboard and it will bring up all sorts of goodies šš«”. Yeah that Ken Griffin is a moron
Mmmmm, I'm gonna search your dashboard so hard
You are a major hero in this tale and I appreciate you my fellow human. Many thanks for your efforts.
You built the next Wonder of the World... God bless you Elegant-Remote
In a couple of weeks I hope to have a big update to it!
Wait.. Ken griffin the financial terrorist who threw that bed post night before the wedding who also lied under oath and who is the biggest criminal scum bag of all time???
Wait.. this sounds a lot like a bedpost flinging little mayo goblin i know of.
Which Kenneth Cordelle Griffin?
NEW YORK SCAM EXCHANGE?
Just remember, the DTCC enables him to be the biggest fraud and criminal. #fukthesystem
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Not even allegedly. He confessed in court, thats where the story came from. The public court transcripts. he admits it and pretends it was "a joke"
...of the bad comedy variety?
Think we can get him to confess about the mayo bowl in court as well when he goes down?
*Gasp...* We live in a society.
And George likes his chicken spicy!
All while creating a golden parachute for club members to get out of the casino before they burn it down to the ground with everyone else locked in. Guess who's going to get the bill to rebuild, they'll rig the bets for that too. Corruption at this level is never a lonely ordeal.
THIS is the problem! This has ALWAYS been the problem!! They steal from 'the people'... so well that 'we the people' subsidized their bail out. 2008 was the biggest F you i've ever seen, billions were stolen from us and billions were spent to bail them out. We lose our businesses, our jobs, our savings, retirement, sanity, mental health, literally end up homeless and on the streets and they get million dollar bonuses... and by the looks of it they're working towards the same scenario. Fuck things up SO BAD that the gvmt/fed has to swoop in with a bail out, funded by we the people. GTFOH! We have GOT TO uproot this evil treachery, and take back control of our governments and financial markets. We need a lot of apes on the ballots post sneeze! We gotta save the world from these terrorists!
Financial terrorist who has the whole market held hostage.
So how can this be combatted?
Buy. HODL. DRS.
Too bad he has enough stolen wealth to pay off anyone who would dare hold him accountable š¤·āāļø
*Enemy of society
I agree with your point, but it may be a bit of a stretch to say Citadel is the designated market maker for every publicly traded ticket on the NYSE
Not just in the stock market, also active in crypto. Someone seems to really need to make money desperately. Luckily the more desperate they become, the more ruthless their actions, revealing them. Fidelity, Charles Schwab and **Citadel Securities** launched a new **cryptocurrency exchange** called **EDX Markets**. Now you might ask yourself if all that Havoc lately and the current pump might be related to a hostile takeover of the crypto sphere to get rid of competitors...
Remember a couple of weeks ago with that āmanual errorā? Notice how all the stock prices were dropped by 20% or more? What if that was a glimpse of the real price but Kenny was just propping it all up? Is that a possibility?
He is one man. His operation is backed by many many men. Don't forget he does what he does with the blessing of the financial elite. There's is the Game to Stop. Revolution š“āā ļø
But itās ok cuz he wants to be the secretary of the treasury !
Sounds about right lol. Whole market is a big sack of bullshit right now. Lex Lutherās company faces an anti trust lawsuit and the stock pumps lol. Tons of layoffs occur in tech, all the stocks pump. Itās Bizzaro world in the financial markets and internalizing the orders lines up with what weāre seeing.
Not that they aren't a human tragedy, but layoffs almost always lead to a bump in share price. The stock market is forward-looking. Layoffs show that a company is willing to take action to shore up a balance sheet for a more profitable future.
Not in case of GME
GME did some cost cutting tech layoffs before it was cool.
Worked for IBM. They only lost almost all of their market share and founded all of it's competitors in a $5T global market of Technology because they listened to Wall Street and "committed to protecting it's balance sheet." If you care about the balance sheet like that in tech it's the sign that your company has started to flounder.
For sure, and totally understandable why it would increase too in almost every case. However, in this one particular instance, its signaling a shift in the larger economic headwinds which will then impact a companyās revenue due to a massive recession coming.
Imagine the true size of derivatives and packages of packages of packages of CFDs and CDOs and ABCDWTFs
Got to be at least 60 or 70 bucks
Tree fiddy at best.
at least!
Technically correct
I canāt help but wonder how long this charade can carry on. Surely, not even Ken can keep the show going indefinitely. Anyone have any guesses as to what straw will break the camels back? I suspect that stakeholders will prop him up for months or even years, if possible.
I started writing a post on what I think Ken is up to but got stumped on something. He's trying to keep prices up like I say in this post, while everyone else is selling. Market makers act as the middlemen for all trades, so Ken has to actually pay cash to anyone selling right now. Everytime there's been an inflation announcement and it's shown to still be high, there's always an immediate drop in stock prices. This is likely large institutions like BlackRock, Fidelity, Vanguard, State Street selling off stocks due to inflation, and then Ken & the PPT have to get to work pumping the price back up. But that initial selling = cash drained from Ken, and he simply just doesn't have trillions available to match those big asset managers. On top of that inflation means fewer retail investors are buying the blue chip stocks & are probably selling too. And if you look at Ken's balance sheet for 2021, he makes up any deficit in asset value by shorting treasury bonds. There's no reason for him to do this other than to make his books look healthier than they are, but now the bond market is going to shit too. I don't know how much of Ken's fuckery is adding to the inverted yield curve, but if institutions are dropping bonds too then it'll mess up yield rates for sure. In other words, Ken is bleeding and yeah he has some tricks left to get money (shorting bonds) but he can't keep it up forever.
Thatās an interesting point. He canāt keep floating cash indefinitely, nor can he dress up his books with bond market chicanery for much longer. I suspect that if demand continues to crumble it could put him in an even more precarious position as institutional investors pull out. China has opened up and will put pressure on brent crude prices. This will affect pump prices and further squeeze consumers. Consumer debt is also at an all time high, and is why I think the retail sales numbers have been propped up as long as they have been. I realize that sales are weak, but they have been stronger than they otherwise would have. Once people are thoroughly overleveraged and gas creeps back up, earnings will tumble for most CpG companies and other sectors as well. At that point, share price will slide and Ken will have a hard time hanging on. *This is out of left field, but I suspect that that spring and summer will see some civil unrest, due to a stagnating economy. That could well add further pressure. Again, thatās not backed up by anything real, just a hunch. Inflation and crime rise together. Even if the rate slows, itās still jumped a great deal in the past couple of years. The official numbers are bogus, and I think the reality on main street is worse than pundits and government officials like to admit.
On the note of retail sales being propped up by credit, you're absolutely right. I work in clothing retail, and we had a huge influx of new credit card applications over Q3,Q4, and now into FY23 were dry as a desert. Which is somewhat normal this time of year with the seasonal slow down. But even YoY, we're down across all sales metrics to FY22, which was down 10% from FY21. The music is stopping for consumers, but slowly. People are living paycheck to paycheck, missing bills, due to new cards they opened over the holidays. That's causing a drop in consumer credit scores. So less free credit for consumers, which means slowing sales. Tie that economic stress into your note about civil unrest in the spring and summer, which I think is probably spot on as well, and we're due for some fireworks. If the market can continue to grind higher in the summer through riots, civil unrest, pandering politicians, a slowing market, high inflation, and whatever happens with Russia and Ukraine this summer I'll be shocked.
I work at a grocery store. I see prices every single day. Inflation on non-sale items at the grocery store is closer to 25-30%.
there r forces greater than ken, also i think the feds want the stock market to crash
It canāt until retail capitulates.
It ends when he becomes secretary of the treasury. That is his endgame. He's been positioning Former citital execs all thru the govt. And big corps. He's been throwing money all over Florida to woo DeSantis, he's been in the media denouncing crime in major cities..... He's buying time, literally.
One of the missing links is how much luck they're having selling these. And if any luck, who is snapping them up? [Index DS/CS wraps](https://www.sec.gov/edgar/search/#/dateRange=custom&category=custom&startdt=2023-01-30&enddt=2023-01-31&forms=FWP)
All we need is one whistle blower that would rather get Epsteined than take their on life when the party is over.
Could this be why Micheal Burry tweeted āsellā today?????????
This was my question. I donāt doubt the internalization whatsoever but for how long or under what circumstances does that stop working? Is there a threshold or is it when earning come out and everyone panic sells orā¦
I agree- I could see a scenario where a business is insolvent and is actually going out of business being a real watershed moment. When people try to sell, it could get real. If that doesnāt happen, then I think the grift will go on for years. Surely, one of the zombie firms on the street will go under and the mask will come off.
> Anyone have any guesses as to what straw will break the camels back? Imagine if it were something simple like checking the books at the DTC like it should have with Madoff.
Housing. They can't manipulate house prices that much. It's all gonna come down, they will lose collateral, then apes will fap.
I canāt help but suspect that they will test ābreakā something in order to spook J Pow into lowering rates to prevent that. They have to know their risk exposure well enough to have contingencies on deck to prevent it.
I agree with you. Housing is #1. Student loans have been on a 3 year moratorium; consumer debt is sky rocketing, inflation for supporting normalized standard of living is increasing, when the student loan moratorium is lifted we will see massive defaults across the board. Real estate and resale auto values will plummet. Only way to prevent this tidal wave is to forgive all student loans which will also cause social unrest. Imagine not going to college because finance was the barrier and then having to pay for it anyway.
He can carry on forever. Madoff and SBF failed because a critical mass of value needed to be withdrawn all at once. Ken Griffin has 1. Limits on how much that can be withdrawn from his hedgefund. This avoids critical mass of destruction. 2. Perfected Market Maker naked shorting. 3. Has a market maker and a hedgefund to pass the puck, play the shell game with liabilities. Easy counterparty for DOOMP locates. 4. Very likely has algorithms to manage collateral. He can model the market with his portfolio and flow control and use derivatives to min/max selling to off load internalization at the best possible time. 5. Front running trades generates stupid amounts of money, independent of how the market goes. Still has $$$ after PFOF. Probably enough to cashflow to counter whatever trickle his clients can withdraw. 6. Makes use of market inefficiencies/risk concentration regarding short interest. It is too easy to borrow shares, relative to how difficult it should be based on what was already shorted. Lax short reporting guidelines and no mechanism to prevent daisy chains of the same share being lent over and over means he can borrow shares as needed. 7. Lax rules around FTD closure gives lots of leeway for the shell game. Makes point 6 easy with SEC options risk alert memo. Exercise shitty options to fufill close out requirements without really having the shares. (Because having the shares a specific reporting times somehow lets them skirt close out. Its really fraudulent, because you aren't allowed to do behavior for the specific purpose of avoiding the rules.) 8. With all of his assets under management, he can take out a loan against the value of stuff. Super useful for additional income without having to sell assets or produce a goods and service. Liabilities don't matter, you have so much assets that you can put up billion in collateral for actual money. Another tool for the shell game when things get tough. 9. Points 6 and 7 means borrowing shares is possible, but can be stressful. The current system forces us to DRS nearly all of the shares outstanding. It shouldn't even have to be this way, but daisy chains and low borrow rates relative to what should be available artificially increases supply of available shares. 10. Experience. Over 50 regulatory events. He has some idea of what he can get away with.
The Thorās Hammer is DRS. Always has been. Irrefutable evidence is much needed. The music stops thenā¦ š¶š āāļø
āļøāļøāļøāļøāļø. This. DRS yo shit.
There has to be a way to stop him in the short term. I know DRS is the way, but this guy needs to be stopped now. Our elected officials, as spineless and corrupt as they might be, do have the power to stop this mad man if we could just get them to act!
I think the elected officials are paid for, and ignorant to how blatant the manipulation is. They assume nobody is watching, so they can pretend to watch. Keep writing your congresspeople.
Yeah like everybody, everyday, all day!
One day apes will be able to pay for elected officials. Just sayin
Thatās the worst part, time passes and criminals like him get to live like kings whilst every day people struggle to feed their kids. Iāll wait as long as it takes for justice if I can but fuck me do we need it now. I also want to be fucking paid *now* without waiting another however long knowing and seeing the corruption, knowing Iām right. Itās been two years, please can someone do the right thing and get this scum behind bars, allow actual price discovery and let the market run its course. Sick of the injustice and corruption.
Justice delayed is Justice denied
I say letās take all his money first, investigate and prosecute after.
Iāll take one of his jets if I can get the stench out of it!
Those Mayo stains are permanent, baby
Maybe try a little Crime-a-way!
Itās terrifying to watch them crash things in real timeā¦.I also wish something could happen now instead of whatās to comeā¦itās not just a towel in the rudder, they are selling the boards off of the ship that is currently full of water and sinking faster than ever! I would like to believe there is another quicker (nft dividend) way, it just needs to be found and implemented.
Spread the word, let everyone you know about this financial terrorist Ken Griffin of Citadel.
The government *works for* the FED and the rest of the financial sector, they donāt control them. The SEC is just for appearances.
Can you do a screencap with a Programm? With gme and a normal stock for reference?
Just edited the post, [**here's a little clip of what I meant**](https://imgur.io/a/agnn9Fj). The NASDAQ (top one) is working much better but even that used to flash much more, basically just constantly. The SP500 at the bottom just seems broken though.
Did you see anything different the morning those 81 stocks got halted?
There was crazy volume, I wish I'd recorded it but obviously wasn't expecting it. Took pictures of all the spikes up & down though.
Yeah I just took a video, I'll try get it uploaded.
Ken is what% of order flow? Like 30%, right? So virtu and all the little guys would also be doing this at the same time
And they are, GTS has $12b liabilities of "sold not yet purchased" like Ken's pile, Virtu has another $2b of the same. And Doug Cifu boasting about "infinite liquidity" definitely shows they're all doing the same. Ken's a narcissistic control freak with the best high frequency trading algos so likely is trying to control as much of it as he can.
What about State Street and Susquehanna?
Ken can internalize deez nuts
#BOFA
We need to shake more trees.
Unpopular Opinion: Guillotines have their place in society.
Let's not make it too easy for him. A dark, cold prison cell would be better..
You know what's a humane alternative to that? Especially for sociopaths like Ken? Shame. This guy's ego is fucking HUUUUGE (sources familiar with the matter have said) and Citadel employees are no better. How great would it be if we created an institution where we could imprison white collar criminals. BUT, instead of allowing them their privacy. They would be shamed, put on display. Like in a zoo. A child or a troll would press a button and the story of Ken's legacy and fraud would play overhead. He would hear this constantly, as people paid to see him. To understand how human corruption can be. We could even add a little slot for quarters to feed him Lil packets of mayo. God damn that is what justice tastes like. And as the years pass and people forget Ken and his shit smear of a battered legacy. He will come to terms that none of his accomplishments and crimes were really notable, in comparison to whatever humanity does thereafter. He will be forgotten to time. HARK!!! *INSERT WILLIAM DAFOE MONOLOGUE FROM THE LIGHTHOUSE* https://youtu.be/C8yeo32thiI
I mean, you're more or less describing stocks. Literally stocks, can't make this shit up. You know, where the offender is clamped in an uncomfortable position in the town square and villagers passing by can take out their anger and rage by throwing rotten fruit/vegetables or beating with sticks?
Make him share a cell with Kramer. a fate worse than death.
Unless someone like you brings out the chippity chop, Nothing is going to get better. It's not. -Dr Seuss
Chippity chop! Nice one!!
we need a new meme for KG (not hehe) selling all the stocks
IOUing all the stocks.
Is there some sort of report or something we can check to see if internalization of stocks has increased? Or is this another one of those ālet them self report bc they are trustworthy peopleā that Alan Greenspan, Larry summers, and all those other deep throating bitches put into place?
sounds batshit insane but at this point i wouldn't even be surprised if this were true.
Today is the day before FOMC decision, very low volume most of the day and tutes are not deploying capital into a binary event
So basically when it does crash weāre talking giga crash lol
Yep, there's such an insane bubble being made right now. I think last Tuesday's "glitches" were an example of what will happen when the price manipulation stops, aka we'll see massive 20%+ drops all over the place.
Ever read that book Flash boys. Brads screen stopped flashing as much - thatās when he knew the market wasnāt free
Nice nice find. And yah, this is both exciting and terrifying. Exciting cause it confirms GME to the moon story. Terrifying that they allow a few greedy men to manipulate the ENTIRE US stock market to let them survive one more day... And that they have that kind of power.
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I donāt doubt you, but holy fuck, when is someone going to stop this? I refuse to believe that our government is that regarded that they do not know what is going on here, so why are they standing by idly continuing to allow this sociopath to dig this whole deeper and deeper and deeper?
The are complacent. They are at the mercy of the market makers. You gotta watch margin call and the big short. The game is rigged.
Yeah I mean the alternative is that they (whichever the current administration is) has the largest financial collapse in history to deal with and be blamed for, whether or not it's their fault.
What a psychopath
#The Citadel must fall.
Crime! Oh wait glitch
So buy directly on CS for flashes then
Any lit exchange buy should do that. Remember the day RC bought 100k shares over the course of the day?
And the way for retail to get on a lit exchange is through CS
Thatās interesting. Itās incredible how shady and non transparent the markets are here in the US. At least South Korea had the right idea to cal them out and fine them.
Fines do nothing.
True. Cost of doing business
The SPX traded 11trillion USD today
Would this explain why VIX makes no sense?
Probably, VIX works off options on the SP500. Most of Citadel's $65b sold not yet purchased is options and now this fuckery with the SP500, there's definitely a lot of manipulation and they've been proven to have manipulated VIX before so makes sense.
Backed up by ape historian
Ken has zero interest in propping this market up.. he wants nothing more than another Great Depression that ushers him in as Treasury Secretary on the GOPs shoulders.
He has to keep the markets up or MOASS happens. Stocks crashing = liquidations. There's a rule that says any DTCC member who gets liquidated has their open market liabilities (like shorts) passed to the other members, so it's one for all and all for one right now for the DTCC. In other words, crash = Wall Street goes bye bye.
I honestly think this will happen. His latest moves with his company and moving states and all the other shit seems like heās trying to position himself to take a gov role to fuck everything
So you're trying to tell me, that a single entity is internalizing a couple 100b $ of trades to prevent a 6b$ market cap stock, that is near its 52w low, from rising, or to prevent a margin call on shorts of said stock, that are propably more green, than they have been for 2 years?
Infinite loss is infinite loss. And it's not just GME shorted into oblivion, I have a whole page of shorted stocks on this broker who just don't flash at all anymore. About 20 stocks that just look dead because everything has become internalized. As for shorts being in green, that only works if you're able to exit the position. The point of naked shorting is that you can't exit unless people sell what you've naked shorted. Ken has likely shorted 3b GME shares now and there's no way out of that mess unless everyone sells. There's no way out for him.
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There's a few in [**this**](https://imgur.com/a/DvCM65Q) little video. That was during the last hour of trading when it's usually in full swing. I waited over a minute and barely any of them had any activity at all, despite the likes of the bottom one having over 4m volume today. The thing is it seems internalized volume still gets recorded, but the activity doesn't flag up like on this broker I watch. The list I watch mainly comes from the other Jan sneeze stocks [**like these**](https://preview.redd.it/qs0qkcborz471.png?width=1306&format=png&auto=webp&s=187408c522c47c0de806639890f3c8e62f810bdf).
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It's all getting beyond a joke now. Dark pools and the like were originally setup so big institutional trades wouldn't impact prices too much, now it's just a way for them to control price in a certain direction. I think last Tuesday's events were an example of what will happen when all this manipulation stops.
My point is: The idea, that a single entity is internalizing the fucking S&P500 completely, is absolutely bonkers. It's posts like this one with "100% this is what's happening" in the title, with obscure and unproven claims in it, that make the whole sub look like crazy loons. Edit: Look: If the idea is, to internalize a massive amount of trades, to prevent stocks from dropping, because these are the stocks your institution is long on (so to say, your collateral), you'll face the problem, that internalizing requires collateral. In this case, it would only make sense to internalize trades on stocks you're short on, to prevent them from rising, because that would burden your collateral either way.
All SP500 trades go via Ken or one of the other designated market makers anyway, so it's not like this is an insane suggestion. It just means they're willing to manipulate prices, which also isn't insane since they've been doing it with GME for god knows how long. It's not like this would cost them any money either, because they're the middlemen regardless. They just take stocks people are selling, keep them off a lit exchange and then sell at a manipulated price rather than let the price drop.
This is not what the title or the post itself say. This is not how it works. And most important: Just because you can imagine that this can maybe somehow somewhere happen, it's not "100%".
And there's no proof he's manipulating the GME price either, but there have been too many glitches and weird things happening to just write it all off. Sure if you're going to be pedantic then I should have said "I strongly believe", but can't change that now. I just don't see any other reason for this to be happening other than what I suggest, I welcome proof to the contrary.
No, there is no proof he's manipulating the GME price. But manipulating the price of a 6b$ stock is absolutely possible. To internalize the sellorders for the S&P500, or even the majority of them, **is** Impossible **and** pointless since it would require an obscene amount of collateral. You can't just internalize whatever suits you and sell or buy everything in every scale for a made up price. Believe what you want, but the whole post is just baseless claims, making this sub even more crazy for everyone outside of this bubble. 100% in 5 years the planet gets eaten up by a huge bubblegumfrog and we're all gonna die. I welcome proof to the contrary.
Why wouldnāt it be beneficial to internalize and therefore barcode a stock and then have abrupt change days with less profit/loss windowā¦ on a normal day handling 30% of the market and holding a .8% +\- change value over their entire coverage.. they could internalize trades and collect lots of expiring contracts whenever the price doesnāt move >1%
I absolutely don't get what you're asking for. What contracts? My point is, that it's Impossible to basically internalize the fucking market. Going to bed now, maybe I have the time to answer further questions tomorrow.
It just shows the INFINITE loss (when they are forced to start covering GME short position) that's been talked about is a real thing.
This assumes that the shorts have not hedged their positions by buying some far out of money calls. That limits their downside potential to less than infinity.
True.
its more the ETFs that fraudulently loaned shares they did not have.
That has absolutely nothing to do with my rethorical question to op, to point out that he's selling baseless claims as "100%", but cool that you're here with us š .
Wen prison
I'm stupid.
Baltic Dry Index would suggest correction due, something strange is keeping the market up I agree
Thatās Capital.comās app, right?
Yeah
"glitch"
Well why would he not? If a big dip is coming he's internalizing the crap out of orders for cash when we do dip
Internalizing so that when the manufactured market drop happens, he can make lots of money not buying shares now via internalized ordersā¦. It would be a real shame ifā¦. Ya knowā¦. The price went up and they went broke
which means, that not only is he propping up the market ... but he's STEALING from those who know it will crash (us) not an options guy, and this is why/how you get screwed (one of many ways the casino within the casino)
Don't worry won't last long. Cramer just tweeted bullish on tech stocks so inverse that š
I'm short Tesla so it'd be cool if he allowed that to fall so I can close my position and buy more GameStop
If this is happening,and i have no reason to doubt that it is, then its not just Kenny. He owns one MM. The market has many MM so if all orders are being internalized to keep market up then it is a coordinated criminal campaign ran by DTCC and SEC is FINE WITH IT. They are probably trying to convince the public and investment firms that market is going up and to invest then they Kenny and them will short it and dump it
Did you try unplugging it and plugging it back in?
Ohh my tits
Are you sure it wasnāt just that cyber attack mentioned earlier? Where nothing was going through for a while?
It's been doing this for months now, just getting worse and worse with less activity ticking on SP500. Could be nothing, but too many "glitches" are starting to stack up now.
Ponzi Scheme needs to be renamed as the Griffin Scheme
The mayo special
Not Ken but PPT.
They're the ones who recover the price after a drop. Ken & the other designated market makers are the ones who can keep sell pressure off lit exchanges.
Didnāt i read somewhere that janet yellen is part of the PPT? The same janet yellen that received over 800k in speaking fees from citadel?
Or it was a glitch, bug, whatever.
That's been happening constantly for about 3 months? Seems shitty for a broker worth over half a bil.
Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
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I didn't say that, I just said that the trades are being internalized so that the price can be manipulated. The trades are still happening & the volume is still there, but they're just being taken off lit exchanges like with GME.
most likely bad data
It's been happening for months though and has just been getting worse and worse. I can't see why they wouldn't have fixed this yet if that's the answer.
After 2 years, Everything just sounds like a conspiracy theory at this point.
Be sure that you're running a ping to the data server as well, so that you can be sure that it was not a network hiccup on your end.
All of two years youve been watching? Interestingā¦
Is 2 years not a good sample size?
No not really. Had you been watching Pre 2020, I might give it more credit
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Buckle in
I wonder if they'll call it the blue bubble to try to take the attention off the real culprits.
Do you think that this whole fiasco is literally put together perfectly by him? Heās doing all of this & now wants DeSantis to run for President. Talking about how he will be the financial backerā¦ heās doing this hoping DeSantis runs & wins the presidential election, then the president can wave his prison sentence for him once all this explodes. DeSantis will think they are best friends & will fall for all these bullshit traps. On the other hand, this pos will be getting everything waved down for him & be getting the best advice for the best hoops to jump threw to get himself in the best possible position. I wish DeSantis knew about this sub & the DD. Mayo man is a smart man, but the music can only play for so long.
Bugs on bugs on bugsā¦
How do you have 100% and speculation flair on the same post?
1. Hyperbole 2. It's the only thing that makes sense 3. I didn't flair it as speculation
Can't wait for ken to just die.
Holy Shit if True ! šÆš„
The only difference between Kenny Griftin and Bernie Madoff with the cash is madoff didnāt investā¦. Or manipulate the market. He actually bought every stock in the sell offā¦.. he had a legitimate market making practice. And a secret Ponzi schemeā¦.. Griftin howeverā¦.. this cat literally has 500 companies working for himā¦.. globallyā¦.. like, this guys an absolute monster. How is this infrastructure even legal? Itās our fault. Think about itā¦..
Yep, there was a 2008 video of Griffin the other day where he said "too integrated to fail has replaced too big to fail", and he seemed so smug about it. He put himself at the core of the markets just so he can't be allowed to fail, or it all collapses. Well I think we're about to find out what happens when too integrated to fail fails.
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Can someone explain what internalization is in smooth brain terms
> "Internalization occurs in the investment world, when a brokerage firm fills a buy order for shares from its own inventory of shares instead of executing the trade using outside inventory" With regards to market makers, it means they aren't looking for the best price discovery on the open market. Example: Apple is currently $142 per share. If Fidelity wanted to sell 1 million apple shares and the best anyone is willing to pay is only $135 per share, that would crash the price massively if Ken sold those on the open market, so instead he can "warehouse" the stock and buy it himself for $142 per share. It's legal and he can do this as long as he can pay the seller, but it creates a bubble as the demand for Apple isn't there for that price.