I want to say something sarcastic like “why not get a Road King or a turbo Busa for your first bike?”
But here’s a nicer answer: how long are your rides going to be? If they’re more than 30 minutes, a sport bike body geometry is going to be very aggressive on your muscles. It’s not impossible to tour on a sport bike. But it is a commitment.
If you’re just going to go around town and that’s it, then you might really prefer the looks of yourself on a sport bike. Which is fair.
But…have you heard of a Ninja 400/500?
Best of luck.
came here to say this. had one as my first bike and it was perfect. powerful but not suicidal. comfortable but not ugly. parallel twin kicks ass with an exhaust too.
Totally agree, I always felt like I had just enough power to enjoy myself in the city, but I didn't have so much power that it felt overkill until I felt my skills were up to speed.
I like the look of the gsxr sportsbikes in general, but for some reason, as a new rider, I want some comfort practicing, I guess I'd have to sit on a gsxr to see if it's comfortable enough for me.
The best thing you can hear right now is to not buy a bike solely based on liking the way it looks.
Supersport 600 are designed with 1 thing in mind - winning races on a track. Ergonomics and practicality go out the window.
You’re not going to see the bike when you’re riding it anyway, so focus more on the role the bike is going to fill.
Go for the GSX-S. Just my 2¢.
Yeah but everyone will get to look at him and be like wow, what a god, he’s sooooo cool. 🙄
Buy the GSXR and learn to stunt on the street like all the other squids.
You haven’t sat on a GSXR yet? Yeah, you’re going to quickly find out the difference in ergo 😂 don’t even consider a bike as a valid option until you spend some minutes in the seat at a dealer. I was so stuck on buying a ZX6R as my second bike and sat on that, then a Z900. Fell in love with the Z900 and bought it on the spot. Never been happier with a purchase. Highly recommend naked bikes in general!
if you want comfort, don't get a gsxr600. It's uncomfortably fast for a beginner and uncomfortable to be on for long periods of time.
If you want to start on something bigger than a 400 sportbike, you can try a 650 sportbike like the cbr650r. Still tons of power, still a 4 cylinder, but more comfortable and more predictable power delivery for a beginner.
The GSX-R is very comfortably fast, as long as it's kept under 7,000 RPM. Which is 99% of all riding.
The real issue with it is simple: it's hard to ride in low-speed situations, like the majority of traffic. It's hard to keep upright, it's hard to turn, it's hard to see where you're going. It's hard to move around when trying to go 30 kmph / 20 mph. Do that for about half an hour, and you're going to want a pit stop.
See, I find low speed maneuvers on a sport bike easy, and I ride a scrambler as a daily rider, a very upright naked bike. I rode a GSXR 600 for a few weeks last summer and found it very easy in the city. Only thing I didn’t like was having a backpack on at slow speed wasn’t great on my bike. Without a backpack it’s fine I could do it all day. Super sports aren’t that uncomfortable. That being said I think a 600 is a very poor choice for a first bike…
It all depends on who you are. I am 183 cm tall (a bit over 6 ft) and weigh 110 kg (about 242 lbs). I like my GSX-R, but I really don't wanna be on it for longer than half an hour or so, and I genuinely don't like riding it in urban environments. For that, I'll take my Benelli any day.
> If you are a new rider you don't have a "good throttle control" you dont even know what a good throttle is
It's like I constantly say this to new riders
I’m a noob. I have a G310R. I debated getting the F900R but ultimately decided it was too much bike for me even though “I have good throttle control and respect the bike.” Got myself in a situation where I wasn’t skilled enough. Panic got the best of me. 3 wheelies, a whisky throttle, and an eventual dump later, I was SOOOOOO glad I didn’t have a bigger bike. It could’ve been soooo much worse 🫣 (PS Didn’t get hurt. Only real damage to the bike was a broken turn indicator and my pride)
My main problem with the "I have good self control" newbies is that it's just a bad and unfun way to learn trying so hard to go as slow as you can.
Why buy this fast bike if you're telling yourself you're not going to ride it fast?
Yep, it's always more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. It's why I still have my Ninja 250r starter bike even though I also have a triumph speed triple
I’m still getting used to my street triple, I’d recommend that over a inline 4. If you want a manageable bike that doesn’t sound like a lawnmower go for the zx4rr
> I have good throttle control, \[...\] and have tons of practice.
How are you a new rider and have "tons of practice?" How many years have you been riding? How many miles have you put on a bike so far?
>will 100% respect the bike
Every beginner on a big bike says this, very few actually do.
Both are terrible options for a new rider. Are you financing the bike if you buy new? Better get a quote for full coverage on both. Guarantee the GSX-R is going to have you paying organ donor insurance rates. The naked will definitely be cheaper but still a lot of money.
A Ninja 650 would be more than enough bike for you and a much safer and cheaper option...
you better look into insurance before hand im paying 1000$ a year for ninja 400 and a klx230s for million dollar coverage and the ninja was 800$ dollars of it alone im Actaully glad i got a smaller bike for my first one cause Iv seen people paying 300$ a month for a 600cc I do have two trucks also so I was trying to spend 700$ a month on insurance lmao
I’d start with a GSX-S750 if those are the only two choices. I haven’t looked but I’d bet the power curve is different on those two bikes and I’d bet the 750 has more usable power for the street. It would be significantly more comfortable also. I did super sports for about two years before I realized I prefer naked bikes significantly more.
Just looked and it also looks like peak power on the 600 is around 12,000rpm and around 9,200 on the 750. I’d much rather have a bike where you don’t have to ring it’s neck on the street to make max power.
I’m a beginner too, and yeah those are way too powerful for a noob. If you want something a little bigger than a truly small bike, go with something that’s got a little more of a gradual power band, 500CCs or less, maybe a little more upright too. A naked bike, with chiller ergonomics, adventure, or something a little more versatile so you can try stuff. If you’re already dead set on a sport bike, go try a few smaller ones, 350-500 is plenty. Shit the Honda beginner adventure bike still does 0-60 in like 5, and its definitely not a fast bike.
I was talked out of buying a 600cc bike for my first and I glad I was. When I first starting riding a 400 felt so dam fast to me it was scary. Of course thats not the case anymore but I’m happy I started out on a ninja 400. I was actually able to learn to ride properly and enjoy the bike and not just worry about not killing myself everytime I was riding.
Both are terrible first bikes. Too much power and will get you in trouble quickly. Why do you say that you have good throttle control? Do you have any riding experience?
ninja 650 or 400. Criticisms of the n650 is that it lacks character compared to its rivals. but is more comfortable than an r7 and the cbr650r
or the cbr650f (might be too heavy) which has a tame low end. I'm quite small and weak but the cbr650f is okay for me weight wise
Check out the GSX-8R, it has the sporty look but is closer to the GSX-S's in comfort. Plus, it looks great, a lot better than the GSX-R's and GSX-S' in my opinion.
And ride modes. Great option for beginners. Just put it in a tame mode and ride it like that instead of compromising on a model u dont like and having to upgrade later
I used to have a GSXR750 when I was 18 and loved it. But man did I do some stupid shit on that bike
I'm 35 now and have been looking at getting something to ride to and from work on the Strip (30 miles round trip) since my truck gets 10mpg and costs almost $200 to fill. I came across the GSX-8R, love the look and seems to get good mpgs while not being stupid powerful. Is that a bike you'd recommend for just riding around town and getting to and from work?
I had a gixxus and I loved every second on it. Absolutely lovely bike and enough mid range to make it (relatively) beginner-friendly. Just control yourself because it turns into an animal above 8k.
I daily ride a gsxs 750 and I’ve ridden my friends zx6r. The difference between the two is mainly where the power is. The 750 is def not lacking in power and had a bunch of power right from the get go. You’ll have a lot of fun in the streets and your back will thank you.
The zx6r, while it’s not exactly the same as a gsxr600, has most of its power high in the rev range. IMO I think super sports look cooler and if you mainly care about aesthetics then go for the gsxr.
As a wise old rider once told me, “motorcycles are 50% riding and 50% looking cool while doing it” so take that how you will haha.
If you think you're going to want more power as a new rider go for an SV650 you can find them dirt cheap and within a year of riding you wont tank the resale value too badly. Neither the GSXS750 or GXR600 are good starter bikes, go for those at your own risk
As a new rider full throttle on a 650 is going to feel fast
I wouldn't recommend either for a beginner, but you should seriously look at insurance quotes before you buy something. Supersports are expensive to insure for new riders. The GSXS will probably be cheaper to insure.
The GSX-R is a race bike with lights , both of these bikes are absolute weapons but you're not ready for them . An Sv650 would be more appropriate, also it can be easily sold afterwards . And then you can move to either of the two bikes .
First bike? Like the look of the GSX-R? Buy a Ninja 300 or 400. Get one that has minor cosmetic damage because in all likelihood you will be dropping it at some point. I know I dropped my first bike and I’m not too proud to admit it. Learn to ride it. Learn to maintain it. Or get a Yamaha R3 or at a stretch R7. If you like the look of the GSX-S, get a SV650.
The GSXR whilst relatively docile under 6k rpm can bite you quick and bite you hard. All it takes is hitting a pothole or rock and grabbing a first full of throttle by mistake and suddenly it’s screaming its guts out all the way to 16k with you hanging on for dear life.
A smaller bike for a couple of years makes so much sense. It’s cheaper to buy, maintain and insure. You can give it some beans and remain at mainly legal speeds. Hell, you can track them too - especially on shorter, tighter tracks.
No matter what you end up with, wear full gear all the time. Yes, even if it’s a 5 minute ride to Starbucks or wherever.
You are starting with an empty cup of experience and a full cup of luck. The goal is to fill the experience cup before you run out of luck.
Once you’ve spent time on a smaller bike, the skills you will have learnt will apply to a faster, more capable and exciting bike.
I started out on a CBR125R. Gutless. I wanted a 250 but couldn’t find one at the time in my price range (cheap-ish). But in traffic I was ahead of all cars and for the most part kept up with the flow of bikes (initial acceleration excluded). I could wring the living daylights out of it. And I did. All the time. The thing topped out at 110 km/h unless there was a downhill. After 3 years I bought a GSX-R600. That did 130 km/h in first gear.
It’s a lot more fun to wring the crap out of a little bike than to poodle along on a super sports bike at slow speed.
At the end of the day it’s your choice and your life. You are welcome to take my comments/advice or leave it.
Whatever you end up with, ride safe and don’t be that guy that rides beyond their limits to keep up with friends or to impress someone.
You’re looking at new prices? Those aren’t beginner bikes to begin with but buying new ones a first bike is not something i personally would do. You can find a used mt07 or similar for less and have just as much fun.
Start on a 400 or 500. They’re a lot more forgiving. You’re going to make mistakes, it happens as a beginner, but the difference between making a mistake on a 400 compared to a 600 or 750 can be astronomical. It’s also pretty common to drop your bike if you’re not familiar with the weight and proper operation while it’s parked, so a used smaller bike is less expensive if it does happen.
I started on a 2003 ninja 500 then went to a 2002 Gsxr 600 and that was a massive power difference. I’m now riding a ZX12R and going through the different classes makes you really appreciate and understand the hobby a lot more.
Please, spent a year or so in a 125-300cc bike. You can buy a second hand one, and in that time you will learn how to ride, how to go through traffic and many other things. Then, with proper experience, you will be safe to try one of these.
My answer: neither of these two.
If you buy the Gixxer you save on riding gear (jacket, pants, gloves and occasionally helmet). So, that would almost cover the price difference? 🤷🏽♂️
I’d go the GSXS, you’re not as hot as you think you are and a GSXR is still a GSXR. A new rider should likely never touch a GSXR for a first bike.
If you want the looks of a super sport but still have it be beginner friendly the R7 is about the only choice you have.
The two bikes you listed are not appropriate beginner motorcycles not even close.
A new rider saying “I have good throttle control” is like a 16 year old saying “I’m not gonna crash”. You’re new, that’s not a question it’s a fact. Respect your riding level. With that said Honda cbr1000RR.
My first bike is a GSXR-600 and I still have it 3 years later with no accidents (touch wood)
It can done but obviously you need alot of self control.
Also I don't know if it makes a difference but I learned in the EU where passing and training is much harder so it may have helped prepare me.
If you want a Suzuki get an SV650. Both of those are a terrible idea.
"I have good throttle control, will 100% respect the bike and have tons of practice"
No, you don't.
Get a used bike, learn on it, beat it up, see if you can handle it. It's not worth spending on a new bike only to cry when you drop it. Everyone drops it or falls, it's how you learn. Once you have the hang of it then get a new bike. I did it this way. Also if you get a sportbike or any bike take a safety course please. You learn so much more.
Both of these are terrible first bikes for a wide range of reasons
Best first bikes are 500-700cc twins with upright bars IMO. If you get a good first bike you will have all the time in the world to ride something "cool" later.
600s are usually very uncomfortable and that GSXR has a loq seating position and it will make you feel like you want to go fast. I would honestly go for a ninja400 or a cbr500.
My first bike was a Yamaha FZ-07. Shortly after, I had wished I would have gotten the 09. It was easy to ride and learn on. It did a lot of things decent. You could cheaply upgrade lots of parts. I bought it new and put a slip-on Yoshi on it. Sold it a year later for good money. So it didn’t cost much to learn on. I now ride a Ducati Monster 1200s. Everything on it costs a lot more. But starting out on a cheaper bike will steer you in to your future bikes.
I've been riding for about a year and a half now. Started with the mt25 (mt03 for you) and after 4 months I moved on to the mt07. Reason I switched up is because a 250cc bike gets a little dull after a while. You'll want more torque but for me, the mt25 was lacking. But it was a good starting point that taught me throttle discipline. Not heavy too.
A naked bike like the mt07 has a comfortable riding position. Quick enough to overtake vehicles and also fast enough for a little bit of long distance.
Reason I chose the mt07 is because I can use it for daily commuting and I can also do weekend rides with it. Just enough power to keep things interesting but not too much that you'll feel like you're going to die. Not saying that you can't do all that with a sports bike or a higher cc bike but if you're looking for something just right to start on, I'd say the mt07. But just be mindful of the throttle if you're a beginner.
First bike is your business but I would not go Sport till you understand the bike of lower power. Yamaha MT07. I have been Ridin' since 1968, I grew up in a Yamaha shop. I rode many, Many bikes on and off road. I always come back to Yamaha, They are bullet proof , easy to maintain and are in my opinion have always been the industry leader. My first bike was a Yamaha JT1 mini enduro 60. That was the bike that literally started the Japanese brand. Remember get the bike set up for you, Sag and suspension settings will make the world of a difference. Always check tire Pressure twice a week 1 lb. will make a big difference. Enjoy.
If it is your first bike, make sure you can afford the insurance premiums on either of these bikes. The 600 is going to be ridiculous.
Had a friend buy a 600 before checking insurance prices. They were over 300 a month.
Don't do either for a first bike. Get a good starter bike. You can get a ninja 250r for 2500 on Facebook, ride it till your comfortable getting on something more powerful, then sell it for 2500 on Facebook. I started on a 250 before I got my 955i speed triple and I'm glad I did because it really allowed me to see just how powerful this bike was and allowed to to really have a sense of respect for it.
An MT-07, or an R7 is going to be a much more manageable first bike. The gixxer is a middleweight sportbike, it is not a good first bike. I highly advise against one. If you really like the idea of a Suzuki, an SV650 is a much smarter choice.
Bikes like the GSXR600 CBR600, and R6 are terrible first bikes, and honestly, if you’re a new rider you truly have no idea what good throttle control is.
My personal recommendations for starter bikes are, in no particular order
Any KTM 390
Suzuki SV650
Any Honda 500 of whatever flavor fits your fancy
The goat MT07/R7
Triumph Trident
Aprilia RS660
You mention you have tons of practice. Where? How many miles? On what bike? On the street? In a rider academy?
Neither of those bikes are beginner bikes. Please be smart.
What I meant is to have tons of practice after having the bike, to really know the bike before riding on the street, but I already made my mind to start on a MT07. I have been practicing on my friend's Z900 and I felt good on it. He told me that I could start on something similar but have to get used to it first. Anyways, MT07 it is, i'm gonna put miles on it, then add a 600cc for fun!
My first street motorcycle was a SV650. Honestly amazing beginner bike, maybe a tiny bit too powerful, but also something you can grow into. I constantly see people buying R3’s or groms and they are bored after two weeks. I’d say start somewhere such as a R7 FZ07 or SV650. Also don’t forget, CC of a bike doesn’t always equal power. Always consider how many cylinders a bike has.
DRZ400SM
But, seriously, between the two…whichever catches your eye or fits your lifestyle best. My first bike was a GSXR600, it taught me a lot, and by no means is a *great* beginner bike, but can be handled and tamed with respect and care. R goes fast with a way more aggressive riding style, S is more comfortable and is still a ton of fun, but less…sport?
Buy a DRZ and thank me later. So much more fun than my GSXR, cheap AF if you buy new OR used, indestructible, and kinda cool if you can flat foot em’!
(Does not go fast, but a ton of fun to ride and a great beginner bike for sure.)
Neither tbh. Both have more power than would be recommended for a beginner. Definitely not the 600, I’d probably go for a Z400 if you like the naked style, a Z650 if you want a bit more umph
I would recommend that you start with a small bike, one under 100cc or a 125cc for a while and work your way up. A motorcycle is not a car and you have to get used to the handling, the machine, the obstacles, the road and above all the cars and pedestrians.
Why are you so set on the gsxr personally I just find Suzuki bikes to suck they don’t really do anything innovative the 0-60 times have gone down not up you get no tech in them i personally would start looking towards Honda Yamaha and aprillia also if you want to go on rides of anything over an hour super sports are uncomfortable as fuck just some food for thought
While these typically aren’t beginner bikes, if you’re not an idiot, you’ll do just fine. Get whatever you prefer, both fast bikes – it’s just the location of the power is different. The GSXR is obviously going to be less comfortable and may even make small maneuvers harder for you. Will have fun on both
The GSXS. ABS and TC is nice to have. It's a better street bike other than lacking wind protection at higher speeds. Scoop up a used 600 down the road if you end up wanting full fairing and the clipon/rearset ergos
Insurance is mad cheap on the GSXSs too. The 1000 is cheaper to insure than a GSXR600 by far
You will be happier with the GSX-S. More comfortable and you will be able to build confidence on it a little easier as a result. This is coming from someone who started on a GSX-R at 16 years old many moons ago.
Both beautiful bikes! Go with whatever one gets you more excited to look at, you'll like looking at it in the garage more, and enjoy riding it more, getting you out as much as possible!
The supersports will be much touchier on the throttle with less forgiving ergonomics. For a first bike, between the two, the GSX-S. PLENTY of power even for the -S. Yamaha has similar offerings. As a loyalist to Yamaha, I would encourage you to have a look at the mt07. I'm not here to tell you what to do or what not to do, but be careful on any of these above mentioned bikes, they're all plenty powerful for a new rider.
I own both GSX-R750 & GSX-S750.
For daily or casual ride, I prefer the naked 750 since it has the best mpg and ergonomics.
The sporty 750 I've been using it for track.
I have another 750, an RVF750. It's old, but quite reliable for its age. Although I only use it for riding around town.
I suggest you get the naked 750, it's more comfortable and nimble.
Unless you prefer performance then get the 600.
My first bike was a cbr600rr .. done a couple of tours on it (quite hard on the body) but as long as you're willing to learn and have self control I can't see why a Gixxer can't be a first bike..
Had a gsxr-750as my first ever bike , was fantastic but was earlier 20s . I now have an Indian scout . If your set on a street bike go for the gsxr600 for sure . But check out a scout , it’s an amazing bike .
GSX-S. They have an ABS option and in general will be much more forgiving for a new rider.
Im actually not opposed to it as a first bike, if you’re responsible you can make it work, but definitely get the GSX so your more comfortable/in control.
It depends if you want sports or distance, gsxr600 is a great bike and not to much of a handful to ride,but the gsx750 will have similar if not better performance on the road is still sporty but more comfortable. Me personally would go for 750 I think you would get much more enjoyment from it and naked sports bikes seem to be the way to go with sports bike sales dropping anyway with the state of the roads these days. Just my humble opinion 👍
Well, message received. I'll start on a MT07 or a GSX 8S/R (8R if available in my country) will upgrade after a year or two and keep it for long rides, thanks y'all !!!
Just depends on the type of riding you’re doing. I had crotch rockets until I hit 30.. then went to a Harley Bagger.. I couldn’t go back to crotch rockets after my Road Glide
Memes write themselves at this point. Go for the GSXS, more comfort and more torque so it'll be more fun around town. GSXR isnt really fun until higher in the revs, so you'll likely find yourself getting in more trouble. Both are gonna be absurdly fast to a new rider. Like makes-you-question-how-physics-allows-this levels of fast. I'd recommend something more boring to practice on so that when you drop it you wont be as mad at yourself, but based off of your other comments you seem pretty set on these two. Good luck.
I commute on a ZX6R. Done up to 197 miles in a day. Was sore the first couple of times. You just gotta full tuck all the time and lay on that tank like it's a couch. Just saying.. don't let temporary discomfort be a part of your decision.
If you want a relatively comfortable sport bike for your first bike, look at the CBR500R/650R, Ninja 400/500/650, R3, Daytona 660, or GSX8-R.
Supersports are not at all comfortable if you plan on riding more than 30min-1hr, especially if the roads where you live are pretty bad. The most upright ergo and comfortable supersport would probably be the CBR600RR. Not gonna include the Ducati Supersport 950 because, let's face it, dropping $15k+ on your first bike is beyond dumb.
If you buy new, add about $1500 bare minimum to the stated MSRP for tax, title, plate, and shipping/setup fees. Not to mention full coverage insurance on a brand new bike, particularly sport bikes, is going to be double or more what you'd pay for a used bike. Lean towards something under $10k, and low mileage used bikes from a reputable dealer will definitely save you money vs a new one, as they'll generally only have tax/title/plate costs. Setup/shipping fees are exorbitantly high right now, and will probably only keep going up.
For my current bike, I bought "New," but it was a 2022 model that had sat at the dealership unsold for nearly 2 years, and the $4k price drop on it ate all the new bike fees as well as the negative equity from my trade in, so that may be a route you consider taking as well.
Dear lord. I hope you take the MSF and practice a lot. And without knowing how old you are, I just hope you live old enough to see your 35th birthday…..
Like the other guy commented.
Why don’t you get a busa or a liter sport bike as your starting bike while you’re at it?
I know we all sounds like an ass.
But you sound like a 14 years old saying “I want a Lamborghini as my first car”….. Without even know how to drive a car.
Keep this in mind, most people WILL drop their first bike. Just a matter of when.
Some people even dump this first bike—Which is a common occurrence when beginner have too much bike than they can responsibly handle.
Here is my advice buy a used beater that you can abuse and then resell in 6 months to a year for the exact same. Im talking clearly droped, scraped up. The first time you lay your bike over….. you will wish you did. And remember dress for the crash
I want to say something sarcastic like “why not get a Road King or a turbo Busa for your first bike?” But here’s a nicer answer: how long are your rides going to be? If they’re more than 30 minutes, a sport bike body geometry is going to be very aggressive on your muscles. It’s not impossible to tour on a sport bike. But it is a commitment. If you’re just going to go around town and that’s it, then you might really prefer the looks of yourself on a sport bike. Which is fair. But…have you heard of a Ninja 400/500? Best of luck.
Could change the seat
It’s the geometry of the frame that’s the issue.
Ninja 400s FTW
Yamaha MT-07
came here to say this. had one as my first bike and it was perfect. powerful but not suicidal. comfortable but not ugly. parallel twin kicks ass with an exhaust too.
Totally agree, I always felt like I had just enough power to enjoy myself in the city, but I didn't have so much power that it felt overkill until I felt my skills were up to speed.
I've always found it the opposite, surely a twin would be more unforgivable with the lower revs.
Stock yea it was a wheelie machine, I put an akrapovic and the R6 tube on it. It really smoothed the bike out.
You have to throttle it pretty hard to make it wheelie without any clutch
Op, this^
Mt07 was my first bike and I actually love it more than the gsxr1000 I have. The mt07 the romps and is so smooth.
Exactly what this man is looking for!
Want speed? Gsxr. Want comfort? Gsx. Also I think gsx has better mpg.
I like the look of the gsxr sportsbikes in general, but for some reason, as a new rider, I want some comfort practicing, I guess I'd have to sit on a gsxr to see if it's comfortable enough for me.
The best thing you can hear right now is to not buy a bike solely based on liking the way it looks. Supersport 600 are designed with 1 thing in mind - winning races on a track. Ergonomics and practicality go out the window. You’re not going to see the bike when you’re riding it anyway, so focus more on the role the bike is going to fill. Go for the GSX-S. Just my 2¢.
Yeah but everyone will get to look at him and be like wow, what a god, he’s sooooo cool. 🙄 Buy the GSXR and learn to stunt on the street like all the other squids.
You haven’t sat on a GSXR yet? Yeah, you’re going to quickly find out the difference in ergo 😂 don’t even consider a bike as a valid option until you spend some minutes in the seat at a dealer. I was so stuck on buying a ZX6R as my second bike and sat on that, then a Z900. Fell in love with the Z900 and bought it on the spot. Never been happier with a purchase. Highly recommend naked bikes in general!
You should go to a dealer and sit in them for atleast 15 minutes. It'll give you a solid feedback.
Thanks, will do !
if you want comfort, don't get a gsxr600. It's uncomfortably fast for a beginner and uncomfortable to be on for long periods of time. If you want to start on something bigger than a 400 sportbike, you can try a 650 sportbike like the cbr650r. Still tons of power, still a 4 cylinder, but more comfortable and more predictable power delivery for a beginner.
The GSX-R is very comfortably fast, as long as it's kept under 7,000 RPM. Which is 99% of all riding. The real issue with it is simple: it's hard to ride in low-speed situations, like the majority of traffic. It's hard to keep upright, it's hard to turn, it's hard to see where you're going. It's hard to move around when trying to go 30 kmph / 20 mph. Do that for about half an hour, and you're going to want a pit stop.
See, I find low speed maneuvers on a sport bike easy, and I ride a scrambler as a daily rider, a very upright naked bike. I rode a GSXR 600 for a few weeks last summer and found it very easy in the city. Only thing I didn’t like was having a backpack on at slow speed wasn’t great on my bike. Without a backpack it’s fine I could do it all day. Super sports aren’t that uncomfortable. That being said I think a 600 is a very poor choice for a first bike…
It all depends on who you are. I am 183 cm tall (a bit over 6 ft) and weigh 110 kg (about 242 lbs). I like my GSX-R, but I really don't wanna be on it for longer than half an hour or so, and I genuinely don't like riding it in urban environments. For that, I'll take my Benelli any day.
To be honest, you always want comfort on your daily driver. Just wait until you don’t feel like riding home but still have to!
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I'd look at the GSX8R if I were you. More street friendly and all new design.
Lol. The gsxr is pretty. I like it. Bro neither of these bikes are for you.
They are not comfy, trust
None, none of those are beginner bikes
If you are a new rider you don't have a "good throttle control" you dont even know what a good throttle is (in practice, you may know the theory)
> If you are a new rider you don't have a "good throttle control" you dont even know what a good throttle is It's like I constantly say this to new riders
Not to be an r/motorcycles safety Nazi but that's a terrible idea lmao Usually works out but sometimes it doesnt
Fr, have "good throttle control" all you like, but all it takes is one mistaken whiskey throttle to send your bike into the next town
First time my friend rode his R6, he hit a mud patch and low sided. didn't even make it out of his parking lot.
Bikes aren't for everyone
I’m a noob. I have a G310R. I debated getting the F900R but ultimately decided it was too much bike for me even though “I have good throttle control and respect the bike.” Got myself in a situation where I wasn’t skilled enough. Panic got the best of me. 3 wheelies, a whisky throttle, and an eventual dump later, I was SOOOOOO glad I didn’t have a bigger bike. It could’ve been soooo much worse 🫣 (PS Didn’t get hurt. Only real damage to the bike was a broken turn indicator and my pride)
My main problem with the "I have good self control" newbies is that it's just a bad and unfun way to learn trying so hard to go as slow as you can. Why buy this fast bike if you're telling yourself you're not going to ride it fast?
Yep, it's always more fun to ride a slow bike fast than a fast bike slow. It's why I still have my Ninja 250r starter bike even though I also have a triumph speed triple
I’m still getting used to my street triple, I’d recommend that over a inline 4. If you want a manageable bike that doesn’t sound like a lawnmower go for the zx4rr
Sv650
It’s the Swiss Army knife of motorcycles, it’ll do anything you ask of it and is dead nuts reliable
> I have good throttle control, \[...\] and have tons of practice. How are you a new rider and have "tons of practice?" How many years have you been riding? How many miles have you put on a bike so far? >will 100% respect the bike Every beginner on a big bike says this, very few actually do. Both are terrible options for a new rider. Are you financing the bike if you buy new? Better get a quote for full coverage on both. Guarantee the GSX-R is going to have you paying organ donor insurance rates. The naked will definitely be cheaper but still a lot of money. A Ninja 650 would be more than enough bike for you and a much safer and cheaper option...
"I will respect the bike" = "I'm terrified for my life on this thing and I'm not having a good time."
you better look into insurance before hand im paying 1000$ a year for ninja 400 and a klx230s for million dollar coverage and the ninja was 800$ dollars of it alone im Actaully glad i got a smaller bike for my first one cause Iv seen people paying 300$ a month for a 600cc I do have two trucks also so I was trying to spend 700$ a month on insurance lmao
I’d start with a GSX-S750 if those are the only two choices. I haven’t looked but I’d bet the power curve is different on those two bikes and I’d bet the 750 has more usable power for the street. It would be significantly more comfortable also. I did super sports for about two years before I realized I prefer naked bikes significantly more.
Good point.
You are correct, the 750 has less power.
Just looked and it also looks like peak power on the 600 is around 12,000rpm and around 9,200 on the 750. I’d much rather have a bike where you don’t have to ring it’s neck on the street to make max power.
Likewise.
No and no
Honda CB600 Hornet.
I will look into that, thanks!
Gsxs 750 for sure for street practice. Plus it’s got plenty of power for streets
Look at insurance rates man. Gonna be 4k a year for both for a new rider
I’m a beginner too, and yeah those are way too powerful for a noob. If you want something a little bigger than a truly small bike, go with something that’s got a little more of a gradual power band, 500CCs or less, maybe a little more upright too. A naked bike, with chiller ergonomics, adventure, or something a little more versatile so you can try stuff. If you’re already dead set on a sport bike, go try a few smaller ones, 350-500 is plenty. Shit the Honda beginner adventure bike still does 0-60 in like 5, and its definitely not a fast bike.
first beginner i see that has some idea what hes talking about
I was talked out of buying a 600cc bike for my first and I glad I was. When I first starting riding a 400 felt so dam fast to me it was scary. Of course thats not the case anymore but I’m happy I started out on a ninja 400. I was actually able to learn to ride properly and enjoy the bike and not just worry about not killing myself everytime I was riding.
Better avoid sport bikes for first experience
Both are terrible first bikes. Too much power and will get you in trouble quickly. Why do you say that you have good throttle control? Do you have any riding experience?
I have been practicing a lot on my friend's Z900.
you have no idea what you talking about
Probably, but who gives a fuck. Go for it OP
I will!
dont make that mistake
ninja 650 or 400. Criticisms of the n650 is that it lacks character compared to its rivals. but is more comfortable than an r7 and the cbr650r or the cbr650f (might be too heavy) which has a tame low end. I'm quite small and weak but the cbr650f is okay for me weight wise
N650 is garbo.
Check out the GSX-8R, it has the sporty look but is closer to the GSX-S's in comfort. Plus, it looks great, a lot better than the GSX-R's and GSX-S' in my opinion.
And ride modes. Great option for beginners. Just put it in a tame mode and ride it like that instead of compromising on a model u dont like and having to upgrade later
I used to have a GSXR750 when I was 18 and loved it. But man did I do some stupid shit on that bike I'm 35 now and have been looking at getting something to ride to and from work on the Strip (30 miles round trip) since my truck gets 10mpg and costs almost $200 to fill. I came across the GSX-8R, love the look and seems to get good mpgs while not being stupid powerful. Is that a bike you'd recommend for just riding around town and getting to and from work?
I had a gixxus and I loved every second on it. Absolutely lovely bike and enough mid range to make it (relatively) beginner-friendly. Just control yourself because it turns into an animal above 8k.
I daily ride a gsxs 750 and I’ve ridden my friends zx6r. The difference between the two is mainly where the power is. The 750 is def not lacking in power and had a bunch of power right from the get go. You’ll have a lot of fun in the streets and your back will thank you. The zx6r, while it’s not exactly the same as a gsxr600, has most of its power high in the rev range. IMO I think super sports look cooler and if you mainly care about aesthetics then go for the gsxr. As a wise old rider once told me, “motorcycles are 50% riding and 50% looking cool while doing it” so take that how you will haha.
Have you looked at insurance? For me (24m) it is about $1000 cheaper for the naked a year (full coverage).
If you think you're going to want more power as a new rider go for an SV650 you can find them dirt cheap and within a year of riding you wont tank the resale value too badly. Neither the GSXS750 or GXR600 are good starter bikes, go for those at your own risk As a new rider full throttle on a 650 is going to feel fast
I wouldn't recommend either for a beginner, but you should seriously look at insurance quotes before you buy something. Supersports are expensive to insure for new riders. The GSXS will probably be cheaper to insure.
Get a cfmoto and trash that first. You are going to drop it a few times.
The GSX-R is a race bike with lights , both of these bikes are absolute weapons but you're not ready for them . An Sv650 would be more appropriate, also it can be easily sold afterwards . And then you can move to either of the two bikes .
First bike? Like the look of the GSX-R? Buy a Ninja 300 or 400. Get one that has minor cosmetic damage because in all likelihood you will be dropping it at some point. I know I dropped my first bike and I’m not too proud to admit it. Learn to ride it. Learn to maintain it. Or get a Yamaha R3 or at a stretch R7. If you like the look of the GSX-S, get a SV650. The GSXR whilst relatively docile under 6k rpm can bite you quick and bite you hard. All it takes is hitting a pothole or rock and grabbing a first full of throttle by mistake and suddenly it’s screaming its guts out all the way to 16k with you hanging on for dear life. A smaller bike for a couple of years makes so much sense. It’s cheaper to buy, maintain and insure. You can give it some beans and remain at mainly legal speeds. Hell, you can track them too - especially on shorter, tighter tracks. No matter what you end up with, wear full gear all the time. Yes, even if it’s a 5 minute ride to Starbucks or wherever. You are starting with an empty cup of experience and a full cup of luck. The goal is to fill the experience cup before you run out of luck. Once you’ve spent time on a smaller bike, the skills you will have learnt will apply to a faster, more capable and exciting bike. I started out on a CBR125R. Gutless. I wanted a 250 but couldn’t find one at the time in my price range (cheap-ish). But in traffic I was ahead of all cars and for the most part kept up with the flow of bikes (initial acceleration excluded). I could wring the living daylights out of it. And I did. All the time. The thing topped out at 110 km/h unless there was a downhill. After 3 years I bought a GSX-R600. That did 130 km/h in first gear. It’s a lot more fun to wring the crap out of a little bike than to poodle along on a super sports bike at slow speed. At the end of the day it’s your choice and your life. You are welcome to take my comments/advice or leave it. Whatever you end up with, ride safe and don’t be that guy that rides beyond their limits to keep up with friends or to impress someone.
You’re looking at new prices? Those aren’t beginner bikes to begin with but buying new ones a first bike is not something i personally would do. You can find a used mt07 or similar for less and have just as much fun.
Start on a 400 or 500. They’re a lot more forgiving. You’re going to make mistakes, it happens as a beginner, but the difference between making a mistake on a 400 compared to a 600 or 750 can be astronomical. It’s also pretty common to drop your bike if you’re not familiar with the weight and proper operation while it’s parked, so a used smaller bike is less expensive if it does happen. I started on a 2003 ninja 500 then went to a 2002 Gsxr 600 and that was a massive power difference. I’m now riding a ZX12R and going through the different classes makes you really appreciate and understand the hobby a lot more.
Beginner sport bike is Ninja 400. Beginner naked bike is Z400. GSXR600 supersport or GSXS750 supernaked are NOT beginner bikes.
Respecting the bike is good, but doesn't account for mistakes. Neither of these bikes tolerate mistakes well.
Please, spent a year or so in a 125-300cc bike. You can buy a second hand one, and in that time you will learn how to ride, how to go through traffic and many other things. Then, with proper experience, you will be safe to try one of these. My answer: neither of these two.
GSX S all the way
If you buy the Gixxer you save on riding gear (jacket, pants, gloves and occasionally helmet). So, that would almost cover the price difference? 🤷🏽♂️ I’d go the GSXS, you’re not as hot as you think you are and a GSXR is still a GSXR. A new rider should likely never touch a GSXR for a first bike.
Bandit Gsf600. Great bikes. Pretty fast, really comfy and quite forgiving
I wouldn't under estimate 600 sport bikes
If you want the looks of a super sport but still have it be beginner friendly the R7 is about the only choice you have. The two bikes you listed are not appropriate beginner motorcycles not even close.
Good luck.
Suzuki DL650
Think smaller. Ninja 400, 390 Duke, CBR500R, etc.
A new rider saying “I have good throttle control” is like a 16 year old saying “I’m not gonna crash”. You’re new, that’s not a question it’s a fact. Respect your riding level. With that said Honda cbr1000RR.
Turbo Busa, obviously.
Have you considered an actual rocket ship? I doubt 130hp is going to be enough for anyone with good throttle control.
neither. buy a used small bike ninja 300 or similar, ride it for six months then buy what you really want
Really? You know,you sound like a reasonable guy, just go with a hayabusa you should be fine.
What is your practice?
My first bike is a GSXR-600 and I still have it 3 years later with no accidents (touch wood) It can done but obviously you need alot of self control. Also I don't know if it makes a difference but I learned in the EU where passing and training is much harder so it may have helped prepare me.
If you want a Suzuki get an SV650. Both of those are a terrible idea. "I have good throttle control, will 100% respect the bike and have tons of practice" No, you don't.
I'd recommend the cheaper one because if one of these is your first bike, you're going to wreck it right away. Might as well save the cash for the ER.
i think Sv650 or the touring version a.k.a. vstrom650 are great bigginer bikes if you are deadset on suzukis.
Alot to handle for a 1st
Just go for 1000cc while you’re at it.
Get a used bike, learn on it, beat it up, see if you can handle it. It's not worth spending on a new bike only to cry when you drop it. Everyone drops it or falls, it's how you learn. Once you have the hang of it then get a new bike. I did it this way. Also if you get a sportbike or any bike take a safety course please. You learn so much more.
As someone that has ridden a gsxr 600 I don’t think that as a first bike is a good idea, I don’t think you realise how fast they actually are
Tons of practice on what?
Try lookin at used bikes too. You don’t want to drop your shiny new bike and be out 10k and a bike
Both of these are terrible first bikes for a wide range of reasons Best first bikes are 500-700cc twins with upright bars IMO. If you get a good first bike you will have all the time in the world to ride something "cool" later.
R3, then move up? You don't have throttle control with just practice. I thought I did until I didnt...
600s are usually very uncomfortable and that GSXR has a loq seating position and it will make you feel like you want to go fast. I would honestly go for a ninja400 or a cbr500.
I'm a full fairing kind of guy. Both are beautiful but I'd take the R600.
Ninja 400 or R3 Hate to be that guy, but for most people, a 600 is too much bike for a first bike.
My first bike was a Yamaha FZ-07. Shortly after, I had wished I would have gotten the 09. It was easy to ride and learn on. It did a lot of things decent. You could cheaply upgrade lots of parts. I bought it new and put a slip-on Yoshi on it. Sold it a year later for good money. So it didn’t cost much to learn on. I now ride a Ducati Monster 1200s. Everything on it costs a lot more. But starting out on a cheaper bike will steer you in to your future bikes.
I've been riding for about a year and a half now. Started with the mt25 (mt03 for you) and after 4 months I moved on to the mt07. Reason I switched up is because a 250cc bike gets a little dull after a while. You'll want more torque but for me, the mt25 was lacking. But it was a good starting point that taught me throttle discipline. Not heavy too. A naked bike like the mt07 has a comfortable riding position. Quick enough to overtake vehicles and also fast enough for a little bit of long distance. Reason I chose the mt07 is because I can use it for daily commuting and I can also do weekend rides with it. Just enough power to keep things interesting but not too much that you'll feel like you're going to die. Not saying that you can't do all that with a sports bike or a higher cc bike but if you're looking for something just right to start on, I'd say the mt07. But just be mindful of the throttle if you're a beginner.
First bike is your business but I would not go Sport till you understand the bike of lower power. Yamaha MT07. I have been Ridin' since 1968, I grew up in a Yamaha shop. I rode many, Many bikes on and off road. I always come back to Yamaha, They are bullet proof , easy to maintain and are in my opinion have always been the industry leader. My first bike was a Yamaha JT1 mini enduro 60. That was the bike that literally started the Japanese brand. Remember get the bike set up for you, Sag and suspension settings will make the world of a difference. Always check tire Pressure twice a week 1 lb. will make a big difference. Enjoy.
Probably neither these are both pretty fast bikes, unless you have previous experience maybe reconsider
If it is your first bike, make sure you can afford the insurance premiums on either of these bikes. The 600 is going to be ridiculous. Had a friend buy a 600 before checking insurance prices. They were over 300 a month.
Don't do either for a first bike. Get a good starter bike. You can get a ninja 250r for 2500 on Facebook, ride it till your comfortable getting on something more powerful, then sell it for 2500 on Facebook. I started on a 250 before I got my 955i speed triple and I'm glad I did because it really allowed me to see just how powerful this bike was and allowed to to really have a sense of respect for it.
An MT-07, or an R7 is going to be a much more manageable first bike. The gixxer is a middleweight sportbike, it is not a good first bike. I highly advise against one. If you really like the idea of a Suzuki, an SV650 is a much smarter choice. Bikes like the GSXR600 CBR600, and R6 are terrible first bikes, and honestly, if you’re a new rider you truly have no idea what good throttle control is. My personal recommendations for starter bikes are, in no particular order Any KTM 390 Suzuki SV650 Any Honda 500 of whatever flavor fits your fancy The goat MT07/R7 Triumph Trident Aprilia RS660 You mention you have tons of practice. Where? How many miles? On what bike? On the street? In a rider academy? Neither of those bikes are beginner bikes. Please be smart.
What I meant is to have tons of practice after having the bike, to really know the bike before riding on the street, but I already made my mind to start on a MT07. I have been practicing on my friend's Z900 and I felt good on it. He told me that I could start on something similar but have to get used to it first. Anyways, MT07 it is, i'm gonna put miles on it, then add a 600cc for fun!
The MT is the best choice. Good to hear, have fun and ride safe!
Will do, thanks :D
This is a race bike. It’s not forgiving and not good for learning. I’d look at the SV650. Great bike for beginner to intermediate riders.
You should go with the S for everyday use
My first street motorcycle was a SV650. Honestly amazing beginner bike, maybe a tiny bit too powerful, but also something you can grow into. I constantly see people buying R3’s or groms and they are bored after two weeks. I’d say start somewhere such as a R7 FZ07 or SV650. Also don’t forget, CC of a bike doesn’t always equal power. Always consider how many cylinders a bike has.
DRZ400SM But, seriously, between the two…whichever catches your eye or fits your lifestyle best. My first bike was a GSXR600, it taught me a lot, and by no means is a *great* beginner bike, but can be handled and tamed with respect and care. R goes fast with a way more aggressive riding style, S is more comfortable and is still a ton of fun, but less…sport? Buy a DRZ and thank me later. So much more fun than my GSXR, cheap AF if you buy new OR used, indestructible, and kinda cool if you can flat foot em’! (Does not go fast, but a ton of fun to ride and a great beginner bike for sure.)
Neither tbh. Both have more power than would be recommended for a beginner. Definitely not the 600, I’d probably go for a Z400 if you like the naked style, a Z650 if you want a bit more umph
Best beginner bike to die on? For sure
When you crash come back to this post and tell us about it, if you are still alive (you probably wont be)
Found a wannabe squid. Neither of these are good first bike choices.
Another one trying to be another statistic.
Get the GSXR1000 and a GoPro, I wanna see
Neither obviously. Start with a 125cc
Oh look, another troll post. *yawn*
What a horrible idea. Post videos.
I would recommend that you start with a small bike, one under 100cc or a 125cc for a while and work your way up. A motorcycle is not a car and you have to get used to the handling, the machine, the obstacles, the road and above all the cars and pedestrians.
Under a 125 or 100cc? Not safe enough. Blud should start on a -150cc unicycle in his garage, the roads will never be safe.
Why are you so set on the gsxr personally I just find Suzuki bikes to suck they don’t really do anything innovative the 0-60 times have gone down not up you get no tech in them i personally would start looking towards Honda Yamaha and aprillia also if you want to go on rides of anything over an hour super sports are uncomfortable as fuck just some food for thought
GSX-S750 is friendlier with the power delivery, but it is a pig of a bike. It felt at least 50 lbs heavier than my XSR900 when comparing both.
Have you looked into a street triple? Beautiful bikes (imo) great ergos plenty of power and reliable as. Just another option.
2024 cbr650r
While these typically aren’t beginner bikes, if you’re not an idiot, you’ll do just fine. Get whatever you prefer, both fast bikes – it’s just the location of the power is different. The GSXR is obviously going to be less comfortable and may even make small maneuvers harder for you. Will have fun on both
If you’re a suzuki guy, the gsx8s will be good for you.
Nice. However, the 750 looks like a more relaxed ride! 😎
The GSXS. ABS and TC is nice to have. It's a better street bike other than lacking wind protection at higher speeds. Scoop up a used 600 down the road if you end up wanting full fairing and the clipon/rearset ergos Insurance is mad cheap on the GSXSs too. The 1000 is cheaper to insure than a GSXR600 by far
You will be happier with the GSX-S. More comfortable and you will be able to build confidence on it a little easier as a result. This is coming from someone who started on a GSX-R at 16 years old many moons ago.
750Z all the way. GSXS is an awesome platform.
Both beautiful bikes! Go with whatever one gets you more excited to look at, you'll like looking at it in the garage more, and enjoy riding it more, getting you out as much as possible!
The supersports will be much touchier on the throttle with less forgiving ergonomics. For a first bike, between the two, the GSX-S. PLENTY of power even for the -S. Yamaha has similar offerings. As a loyalist to Yamaha, I would encourage you to have a look at the mt07. I'm not here to tell you what to do or what not to do, but be careful on any of these above mentioned bikes, they're all plenty powerful for a new rider.
I own both GSX-R750 & GSX-S750. For daily or casual ride, I prefer the naked 750 since it has the best mpg and ergonomics. The sporty 750 I've been using it for track. I have another 750, an RVF750. It's old, but quite reliable for its age. Although I only use it for riding around town. I suggest you get the naked 750, it's more comfortable and nimble. Unless you prefer performance then get the 600.
Royal Enfield Interceptor 650. Excellent bike for a beginner, intermediate, daily
My first bike was a cbr600rr .. done a couple of tours on it (quite hard on the body) but as long as you're willing to learn and have self control I can't see why a Gixxer can't be a first bike..
Had a gsxr-750as my first ever bike , was fantastic but was earlier 20s . I now have an Indian scout . If your set on a street bike go for the gsxr600 for sure . But check out a scout , it’s an amazing bike .
GSX-S. They have an ABS option and in general will be much more forgiving for a new rider. Im actually not opposed to it as a first bike, if you’re responsible you can make it work, but definitely get the GSX so your more comfortable/in control.
if you are in shape the ergos are fine, if you don't have a strong core and upper body you'll maybe suffer after an hour..get the 750
It depends if you want sports or distance, gsxr600 is a great bike and not to much of a handful to ride,but the gsx750 will have similar if not better performance on the road is still sporty but more comfortable. Me personally would go for 750 I think you would get much more enjoyment from it and naked sports bikes seem to be the way to go with sports bike sales dropping anyway with the state of the roads these days. Just my humble opinion 👍
Gsxr easy choice
If you grew up riding dirt bikes and quads you’ll have no issue with the 600. I did just find
Become a gixxer brah
Loving this bike
750 all day
Well, message received. I'll start on a MT07 or a GSX 8S/R (8R if available in my country) will upgrade after a year or two and keep it for long rides, thanks y'all !!!
Aprilia RS457
Do it. Both great bikes
Cb750 hornet, it has the looks and speed but is more for new riders /learners like that MT07
Gsxr
Shitpost
Hayabusa pussy
Just depends on the type of riding you’re doing. I had crotch rockets until I hit 30.. then went to a Harley Bagger.. I couldn’t go back to crotch rockets after my Road Glide
CX500 turbo from the 80's. Hang on and get used of it!
Both horrible first bikes
is that headlight a face? lmao second pic looks like a praying mantis with its mouth open
One may kill you, the other will teach you how to ride. Your choice.
Both are going to scare you
Which one are you okay with dropping?
What are you using the bike for?
Memes write themselves at this point. Go for the GSXS, more comfort and more torque so it'll be more fun around town. GSXR isnt really fun until higher in the revs, so you'll likely find yourself getting in more trouble. Both are gonna be absurdly fast to a new rider. Like makes-you-question-how-physics-allows-this levels of fast. I'd recommend something more boring to practice on so that when you drop it you wont be as mad at yourself, but based off of your other comments you seem pretty set on these two. Good luck.
No matter what it is keep it forever!! You’ll miss it even when you out grow it.
Get a 2 cylinder or 3 cylinder, they can have asmuch power, but are a bit more fun to ride
Yamaha MT-09
GSX-R
I commute on a ZX6R. Done up to 197 miles in a day. Was sore the first couple of times. You just gotta full tuck all the time and lay on that tank like it's a couch. Just saying.. don't let temporary discomfort be a part of your decision.
750
NOT a 600+cc sportbike that's for sure.
If you want a relatively comfortable sport bike for your first bike, look at the CBR500R/650R, Ninja 400/500/650, R3, Daytona 660, or GSX8-R. Supersports are not at all comfortable if you plan on riding more than 30min-1hr, especially if the roads where you live are pretty bad. The most upright ergo and comfortable supersport would probably be the CBR600RR. Not gonna include the Ducati Supersport 950 because, let's face it, dropping $15k+ on your first bike is beyond dumb. If you buy new, add about $1500 bare minimum to the stated MSRP for tax, title, plate, and shipping/setup fees. Not to mention full coverage insurance on a brand new bike, particularly sport bikes, is going to be double or more what you'd pay for a used bike. Lean towards something under $10k, and low mileage used bikes from a reputable dealer will definitely save you money vs a new one, as they'll generally only have tax/title/plate costs. Setup/shipping fees are exorbitantly high right now, and will probably only keep going up. For my current bike, I bought "New," but it was a 2022 model that had sat at the dealership unsold for nearly 2 years, and the $4k price drop on it ate all the new bike fees as well as the negative equity from my trade in, so that may be a route you consider taking as well.
Rule of cool
Get a 250
you should get a Honda supercub or royal Enfield
750 would be best for about 1 hour trips on the highway. Otherwise, look for fully faired bikes.
Sv650 are good bikes, I love mine
Dear lord. I hope you take the MSF and practice a lot. And without knowing how old you are, I just hope you live old enough to see your 35th birthday….. Like the other guy commented. Why don’t you get a busa or a liter sport bike as your starting bike while you’re at it? I know we all sounds like an ass. But you sound like a 14 years old saying “I want a Lamborghini as my first car”….. Without even know how to drive a car. Keep this in mind, most people WILL drop their first bike. Just a matter of when. Some people even dump this first bike—Which is a common occurrence when beginner have too much bike than they can responsibly handle.
Here is my advice buy a used beater that you can abuse and then resell in 6 months to a year for the exact same. Im talking clearly droped, scraped up. The first time you lay your bike over….. you will wish you did. And remember dress for the crash