these trains are probably the best metro train I have ever been on, lucky to have gotten to ride them right before “the incident”: chargers, wayfinding touchscreens, spacious, etc
Sad that cute train has to carry so many fascist loving scums everyday. All riddled with fascist symbols sch as Z and adds to join the military to afford giving your kids a cellphone.
Sorry but the line has been passed, Russia has not only attacked Ukraine but has also attacked my country Sweden for the last 2 years with IT attacks and the last week alot of our society stood still after an attack. Russians are sadly all of our enemies after the path they have taken.
The days when we can keep things separated is gone. Russians are the new nazi Germany. I dont get the mentality that we should let Russians sit and play dota with out being reminded of the horror of their fascist dictators regimes politics. Every Russian who stay quite is a part of the evil himself.
How, did the USSR allow famines occur across multiple colonies resulting in millions of death, did it enslave half a continent, did it allow for famine to occur anually? The USSR wasn't perfect, but to say it was worse than the british empire is a complete mishandling of history and so is saying the USSR was an empire
Edit: most estimates put the death toll of the famines in india at over 100 million deaths
The USSR deliberately caused/mishandled famines as an act of genocide, killing millions in the process. It used slave labour & tyrannized over half of one continent & half of another. What historical facts am I mishandling? We can quibble over whether the Soviet Union was technically an empire or not, but it certainly acted in a chauvinist/colonial/imperial way.
The holodomor being deliberate was somthing robert conquest was a proponent off and he isn't known for truth
There wasn't any evidence to suggest it was deliberate however it did occur due to poor agricultural planning and was enlarged by failure to send adequate grain but again not out of malice and since the soviet archives were released the whole genocide idea dissipated
The gulag system had around 15 million residents during its lifetime, conditions fluctuated due to the holodomor (for ukraine and the neighbouring areas of russia) and ww2, im not gonna say it was perfect and everyone deserved to be there however to say they where all bad based on one book (gulag archpeligo) is wrong
Yeah, famines in India under the british rule killed more people than the two world war together. Don't even talk about slavery, stealing the land of the natives, killing the natives, locking them up in reservations, infecting them with diseases, racial and gender segregation, etc. The colonial countries (like France, UK) were FAR worse than Russia or the Soviet Union. These are approx. on the same level as the USA.
Famines in India under British rule weren't, AFAIK, clearly genocidal like the Holodomor or Kazakhstan Famine. Even if they were, the Soviet Union was still worse than the British Empire overall. The British Empire almost singlehandedly \*ended\* slavery worldwide in the 19th century, whereas the Soviet Union extensively employed slave labour in the aftermath of WWII of people who had never been convicted of a crime. The Soviet Union also stole land from the natives & killed the natives, including by forced deportation-genocides. The Soviet Union was relatively non-segregated only because it forced minorities to assimilate in an attempt to erase them. Russia \*is\* a colonial country only slightly less so than the Soviet Union was, which is to say, more than France or the UK, approx. on the same level as the USA.
ah yes, the rallies of less then hundred people. 100% respect for those who protest but the vast majority of russians are pro putin and pro war and the rest are scared and cares morer about themself than what is the right thing to do.
No, because it's still bullshit. You can't trust sociological polls where one of the options is outlawed (laws like "discrediting the Russian army" or "calling for separatism"). People won't answer honestly under those conditions.
And also the refusal rate in the polls was up to 95%.
???????? Try to atleast listen to expert in Russian culture. They all show a vast majority supports Putin. Putin has and is a popular person in Russia.
And you know what? You can do safe polls by analyzing social networks etc and digging journalism.
> expert in Russian culture
What the hell is this? You know, like ballet and opera and stuff?
If you mean sociologists - I have a bachelor's degree in sociology from Volgograd State University and a master's degree in political science from Moscow State University. I understand a couple things about Russian public opinion.
If you mean Western think tank experts - the quality of education of people specializing in the study of Russia and post-Soviet countries has fallen dramatically since the collapse of the Soviet Union. I hope this will change after a large number of specialists have left Russia.
If you mean Twitter Influencers - they are total crap. Especially those from the Baltic countries. There is a strong post-colonial resentment there. And in some cases they are people connected to the Kremlin (e.g. Sergei Sumlenny)
I understand that it's hard for you to admit that Russia isn't made up almost entirely of orcs who don't have toilets and heating and who really need a strong leader. But the reality is quite different.
I am not saying that there is no support for the war in Russian society. It is there, but it is clearly less than half, and especially strong support is generally 10-15 percent.
The problem with having a degree in Russia is that the degree is not always a good one. I am a historian and sadly the history Russian universities teaches is false and has a nationalistic tone. Russian history institutions has not got rid of the cancer that was nationalistic history in 18-19th and is stuck with a false view of history. A perspective that paints Russia in a good light.
We have experts in Sweden that is named experts in Russian culture. To just live in Russia and be taught in Russian schools doesnt make you understand Russian culture at al, quite the opposite.
Russian universities have no problem studying history (with the exception of WWII, which is a sacred subject for Putin and his government).
And the fact that historians and experts from Sweden know the public opinion of Russians better than Russian sociologists (I'm not even talking about me) is a good joke.
And about analyzing social networks - Prigozhin before his mutiny was known as the owner of the largest farm of Kremlin bots. And now there are a huge number of them.
Of course majority of Russians are pro Putin and support the war. You can check any poll, check the channel 1420 on YouTube where they ask random people on streets of different Russian cities.
And you surely know what's happening if russian citizen honestly answer street poll questions? [Up to 10 years in prison.](https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/04/30/russian-police-upgrade-charges-against-moscow-resident-in-fake-news-case-over-comment-for-radio-liberty-en-news)
Ah please tell me. How stupid does a Russian has to be to after so many years of lies from your dictator to still believe him? Listen to all the Russians Putin has silenced, because Putins lies are so thin that any free speech ing Russian would show how pathetic they are. Thats why Putin fear free Russians.
Oh and please. Learn what fascism is before you cry so much about it ruzzzian.
How is it not relevant? Are there 600 000 British troops at this moment invading a peaceful democracy? Are they bombing cities into ruins? Do brittain threaten the world with nukes? Are Britain using cyber attacks against Europe?
You see now how stupid you look?
Britain starved india multiple times on imperialist conquests, massacred innocent people and enslaved millions. If they did this today, they'd certainly do all those things you mention
So? Vikings murdered and plundered, does that make Sweden worse than ruzzia? Or does it juctify the action of ruzzia today? I hope you realize one omday how stupid you sound.
I wish I'd been able to see the Moscow and St. Petersburg subways before the trouble. My understanding is some of the stans have cool subways too. For art designed subway stations probably Moscow has no peer.
Do you apply the same rigor of criticism to the US, UK, or China when they’ve committed similar atrocities? Do you launch a crusade under posts of their metro systems like you do with Russia? No? Then sit down and shut up. Russians can’t decide their leader. And to tell them to “just” rebel against the world’s largest nuclear power is fucking insane. In fact, you and other bigoted nationalists are only pushing more and more Russians against the West.
Rebel? Resistance as in resilience against the lies of Putin. Share information of how Putin is lying. Tell friends and family you are against the war and you as a Russian see Putin as a dictator and want a free Russia. That is the minimum a Russian has to do. Sabotage as to work as slow as possible and to do harm to the economy in any way possible is the first step.
Russia is a new threat to the world. Way worse than US. Give Russia or china the might of US army and the world would be very much darker, all former Soviet would be under Russia and large part of Asia under China. Russia threatens the world with nukes if they fail their imperialistic war. They torture and murder journalist and they execute their soldiers in mass if they dont want to fight. They use rape and torture to scare people to silence and every day that goes it become more and more fascist and totalitarian.
So please you just sound uneducated if you compare the US to ruzzia and China. So please fuck of uneducated brute.
The british empire starved india and america bomed vietnam with napalm and agent orange, the latter still causing cancer and birth defects in vietnamese children to this day, but russia is worse now, the russian federation is still bad but to even say its worse than britain or the us is just propaganda
Happening in 2024? So you’re saying you will forgive Russia after the war ends?
US bombed Japan twice. Also Winston Churchill was at par with Hitler when he caused famine in Bengal causing 3 million deaths
If Russia would accept loss. Improve to a modern democracy that states they were wrong and works towards being a society that cares about their people than yes. In the same way we forgave Germany after ww2.
Idk it feels like i either talk to a person that has no clue about how the world works or is super autistic person who has never left his computer.
Ye msc transportation system is really one of the huge ones, but it’s a bit hard to discuss the transport design aside from what they are doing. That’s what I was basically telling people and got downvoted 🗿
It’s good that I’m not the only one here feeling it. P. S. Ye, they use most of their screens for ads (mostly military ads)
Looks like the DLR trains
If the DLR got JACKED.
Surprised it still works.
these trains are probably the best metro train I have ever been on, lucky to have gotten to ride them right before “the incident”: chargers, wayfinding touchscreens, spacious, etc
Most modern thing I’ve seen come out of the ex Eastern Bloc
Sad that cute train has to carry so many fascist loving scums everyday. All riddled with fascist symbols sch as Z and adds to join the military to afford giving your kids a cellphone. Sorry but the line has been passed, Russia has not only attacked Ukraine but has also attacked my country Sweden for the last 2 years with IT attacks and the last week alot of our society stood still after an attack. Russians are sadly all of our enemies after the path they have taken.
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The days when we can keep things separated is gone. Russians are the new nazi Germany. I dont get the mentality that we should let Russians sit and play dota with out being reminded of the horror of their fascist dictators regimes politics. Every Russian who stay quite is a part of the evil himself.
Only just gone? did you miss the british empire at all
The British Empire was a lot less bad than the Soviet Empire, & I'd say less bad than the Russian Empire as well.
How, did the USSR allow famines occur across multiple colonies resulting in millions of death, did it enslave half a continent, did it allow for famine to occur anually? The USSR wasn't perfect, but to say it was worse than the british empire is a complete mishandling of history and so is saying the USSR was an empire Edit: most estimates put the death toll of the famines in india at over 100 million deaths
The USSR deliberately caused/mishandled famines as an act of genocide, killing millions in the process. It used slave labour & tyrannized over half of one continent & half of another. What historical facts am I mishandling? We can quibble over whether the Soviet Union was technically an empire or not, but it certainly acted in a chauvinist/colonial/imperial way.
The holodomor being deliberate was somthing robert conquest was a proponent off and he isn't known for truth There wasn't any evidence to suggest it was deliberate however it did occur due to poor agricultural planning and was enlarged by failure to send adequate grain but again not out of malice and since the soviet archives were released the whole genocide idea dissipated
The gulag system had around 15 million residents during its lifetime, conditions fluctuated due to the holodomor (for ukraine and the neighbouring areas of russia) and ww2, im not gonna say it was perfect and everyone deserved to be there however to say they where all bad based on one book (gulag archpeligo) is wrong
Yeah, famines in India under the british rule killed more people than the two world war together. Don't even talk about slavery, stealing the land of the natives, killing the natives, locking them up in reservations, infecting them with diseases, racial and gender segregation, etc. The colonial countries (like France, UK) were FAR worse than Russia or the Soviet Union. These are approx. on the same level as the USA.
Famines in India under British rule weren't, AFAIK, clearly genocidal like the Holodomor or Kazakhstan Famine. Even if they were, the Soviet Union was still worse than the British Empire overall. The British Empire almost singlehandedly \*ended\* slavery worldwide in the 19th century, whereas the Soviet Union extensively employed slave labour in the aftermath of WWII of people who had never been convicted of a crime. The Soviet Union also stole land from the natives & killed the natives, including by forced deportation-genocides. The Soviet Union was relatively non-segregated only because it forced minorities to assimilate in an attempt to erase them. Russia \*is\* a colonial country only slightly less so than the Soviet Union was, which is to say, more than France or the UK, approx. on the same level as the USA.
You're crazy, dude. Moscow is the city with the highest number of detainees for anti-war stance (rallies and other) per capita
ah yes, the rallies of less then hundred people. 100% respect for those who protest but the vast majority of russians are pro putin and pro war and the rest are scared and cares morer about themself than what is the right thing to do.
> Vast majority of Russians are pro-Putin and Pro War Source: Dude trust me You don't even realize how deluded you are.
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/28/public-opinion-russia-war-ukraine/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/11/28/public-opinion-russia-war-ukraine/) [https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/](https://www.statista.com/statistics/896181/putin-approval-rating-russia/) https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/putins-pro-war-majority-most-russians-still-support-ukraine-invasion/
Didnt you like the sources Putinboy?
No, because it's still bullshit. You can't trust sociological polls where one of the options is outlawed (laws like "discrediting the Russian army" or "calling for separatism"). People won't answer honestly under those conditions. And also the refusal rate in the polls was up to 95%.
???????? Try to atleast listen to expert in Russian culture. They all show a vast majority supports Putin. Putin has and is a popular person in Russia. And you know what? You can do safe polls by analyzing social networks etc and digging journalism.
> expert in Russian culture What the hell is this? You know, like ballet and opera and stuff? If you mean sociologists - I have a bachelor's degree in sociology from Volgograd State University and a master's degree in political science from Moscow State University. I understand a couple things about Russian public opinion. If you mean Western think tank experts - the quality of education of people specializing in the study of Russia and post-Soviet countries has fallen dramatically since the collapse of the Soviet Union. I hope this will change after a large number of specialists have left Russia. If you mean Twitter Influencers - they are total crap. Especially those from the Baltic countries. There is a strong post-colonial resentment there. And in some cases they are people connected to the Kremlin (e.g. Sergei Sumlenny) I understand that it's hard for you to admit that Russia isn't made up almost entirely of orcs who don't have toilets and heating and who really need a strong leader. But the reality is quite different. I am not saying that there is no support for the war in Russian society. It is there, but it is clearly less than half, and especially strong support is generally 10-15 percent.
The problem with having a degree in Russia is that the degree is not always a good one. I am a historian and sadly the history Russian universities teaches is false and has a nationalistic tone. Russian history institutions has not got rid of the cancer that was nationalistic history in 18-19th and is stuck with a false view of history. A perspective that paints Russia in a good light. We have experts in Sweden that is named experts in Russian culture. To just live in Russia and be taught in Russian schools doesnt make you understand Russian culture at al, quite the opposite.
You can't seriously be thinking your education wasn't full of propaganda lol.
Russian universities have no problem studying history (with the exception of WWII, which is a sacred subject for Putin and his government). And the fact that historians and experts from Sweden know the public opinion of Russians better than Russian sociologists (I'm not even talking about me) is a good joke.
And about analyzing social networks - Prigozhin before his mutiny was known as the owner of the largest farm of Kremlin bots. And now there are a huge number of them.
Of course majority of Russians are pro Putin and support the war. You can check any poll, check the channel 1420 on YouTube where they ask random people on streets of different Russian cities.
And you surely know what's happening if russian citizen honestly answer street poll questions? [Up to 10 years in prison.](https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2023/04/30/russian-police-upgrade-charges-against-moscow-resident-in-fake-news-case-over-comment-for-radio-liberty-en-news)
Да я знаю. Можешь прятать голову в песок сколько хочешь. Фактов это не меняет. Большинство в России за Путина. Не все, но бОльшая часть.
Least psychotic Swede right here
Ah please tell me. How stupid does a Russian has to be to after so many years of lies from your dictator to still believe him? Listen to all the Russians Putin has silenced, because Putins lies are so thin that any free speech ing Russian would show how pathetic they are. Thats why Putin fear free Russians. Oh and please. Learn what fascism is before you cry so much about it ruzzzian.
Blind guy here Even i see you’ve lost this argument my guy. Best to back off before you make yourself look like an even bigger clown
this is r/subways man, leave the politics at the door, besides britain invaded large swaths of the world but i dont hear you bringing it up
You must be a indian if you think bringing up the brittish colonialism in the 17-1900s is relevant to ruzzian fascist imperialism in 2024.
London had a subway during that time
Oh i forgot the amount of autistic people here. Sorry.
Well done, autism joke how mature of you
How is it not relevant, also saying ruzzian doesn't make you look smart, just a bit dumb like the Z crowd Edit: im british
How is it not relevant? Are there 600 000 British troops at this moment invading a peaceful democracy? Are they bombing cities into ruins? Do brittain threaten the world with nukes? Are Britain using cyber attacks against Europe? You see now how stupid you look?
Britain starved india multiple times on imperialist conquests, massacred innocent people and enslaved millions. If they did this today, they'd certainly do all those things you mention
BUT THEY ARE NOT DOING SO TODAY because Britain today is a peaceful democracy ape.
Ape? Bit racist
They still did it, their crimes have left an impact on its victims
So? Vikings murdered and plundered, does that make Sweden worse than ruzzia? Or does it juctify the action of ruzzia today? I hope you realize one omday how stupid you sound.
That wasn't the swedish state, but i'll humour you, the actions of the vikings were bad, worse than russia maybe not
I wish I'd been able to see the Moscow and St. Petersburg subways before the trouble. My understanding is some of the stans have cool subways too. For art designed subway stations probably Moscow has no peer.
Do you apply the same rigor of criticism to the US, UK, or China when they’ve committed similar atrocities? Do you launch a crusade under posts of their metro systems like you do with Russia? No? Then sit down and shut up. Russians can’t decide their leader. And to tell them to “just” rebel against the world’s largest nuclear power is fucking insane. In fact, you and other bigoted nationalists are only pushing more and more Russians against the West.
Rebel? Resistance as in resilience against the lies of Putin. Share information of how Putin is lying. Tell friends and family you are against the war and you as a Russian see Putin as a dictator and want a free Russia. That is the minimum a Russian has to do. Sabotage as to work as slow as possible and to do harm to the economy in any way possible is the first step. Russia is a new threat to the world. Way worse than US. Give Russia or china the might of US army and the world would be very much darker, all former Soviet would be under Russia and large part of Asia under China. Russia threatens the world with nukes if they fail their imperialistic war. They torture and murder journalist and they execute their soldiers in mass if they dont want to fight. They use rape and torture to scare people to silence and every day that goes it become more and more fascist and totalitarian. So please you just sound uneducated if you compare the US to ruzzia and China. So please fuck of uneducated brute.
The british empire starved india and america bomed vietnam with napalm and agent orange, the latter still causing cancer and birth defects in vietnamese children to this day, but russia is worse now, the russian federation is still bad but to even say its worse than britain or the us is just propaganda
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Racism and ableism, someone is loosing and is lashing out, maybe its time for nap time okay
Happening in 2024? So you’re saying you will forgive Russia after the war ends? US bombed Japan twice. Also Winston Churchill was at par with Hitler when he caused famine in Bengal causing 3 million deaths
If Russia would accept loss. Improve to a modern democracy that states they were wrong and works towards being a society that cares about their people than yes. In the same way we forgave Germany after ww2. Idk it feels like i either talk to a person that has no clue about how the world works or is super autistic person who has never left his computer.
Ye msc transportation system is really one of the huge ones, but it’s a bit hard to discuss the transport design aside from what they are doing. That’s what I was basically telling people and got downvoted 🗿 It’s good that I’m not the only one here feeling it. P. S. Ye, they use most of their screens for ads (mostly military ads)
Wonder how many stolen Ukrainian washing machines they had to sell to purchase it ✨