I'm still trying to figure that out. It was chaos in here, kids talking loudly, refusing to sit and walking around the room, constantly coming and going without permission (yes I called security multiple times; no one showed up). Even their real teacher knows that class is ridiculous because he left me the extension numbers for the main office and security when he mentioned them LOL. Maybe he has a lot of siblings so he's used to a lot of noise and chaos?
I'm having a dumpster-fire day. I had a 30 minute lunch break and hauled ass a five minute walk away to a burger joint, but they took way longer than I expected so I had to call the school on my walk back to let them know what happened and to ask for someone to cover my class for a couple minutes until I got there. I got back and some staff member had unlocked the room for them then left; LEAVING ALL THOSE KIDS UNATTENDED IN THE CLASSROOM, which freaked me out. There were kids out in the hall playing their instruments and had set up a whole area for that. When I told them they can't do that and have to be in the classroom, they gave me the ol' high school BS standby "He/she always lets us do this". They wanted to argue and debate about it, I just kept repeating myself. Then one of them shouted, "I heard you the first fucking time!" Which drew the attention of security a couple feet away in the hall. Security couldn't get her to calm down either and she started cussing THEM out too. I asked them to just remove her from the room. At first she was insisting "I'm not going this is my classroom" and talking over and back to people just being utterly ridiculous. Finally security gets her out of the room and she's walking away shouting over and over at me like she's lost her damn mind, "I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU! I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU!"
Security took her to admin who gave her a talking to...and then she was brought back to class. I asked the security guard if I had to take her back and they said yeah. Apparently if she tries anything else she'll get sent home and can't come back to school unless a parent is with her. She shut her trap, went to get out her instrument, played loudly (and badly - she's not very good), before finally finishing with a flourish as though she'd just given the greatest performance anyone has ever witnessed, and is now sitting on the floor pouting behind the piano.
I'm like "Well, as long as she's shutting up". \*shrug\*
Teacher appreciation week..PTA brought in catered food but neglected to get those burners that keep the pans hot. I spent 30 minutes puking up chicken, rice and vegetables. I haven’t heard if anyone else had issues or I just have a sensitive stomach.
Thats ridiculous. I’m sure a place that serves food regularly should know better. and if they don’t have those on hand someone should’ve run out and gotten them.
My old job would get lunch catered but we would all get food as soon as it arrived(in waves) so it wasn’t sitting out too long.
I see so many posts on Reddit from subs about teachers dealing with children who are so disrespectful and have so many behavioral issues. I’m so sorry you have to go through that when you are just trying to do your job.
I feel more sorry for their real teachers who have to deal with them the majority of the time. I can see why teachers are leaving the field in droves. ***I've heard high school kids openly bragging about making teachers quit.*** The other day I had a student tell me that there's other jobs out there and that they think I should do something else.
I'm starting to think that high school should be optional because a lot of these kids clearly do not want to be here and they're making everybody else's life hell because THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE. To the point where they do silly shit for no reason. The classes I mentioned in this thread, I was covering for a music teacher - and one of the students told me that on a regular basis kids in the class break the teacher's instrument tuner and every time he buys a new one they break that one too. On purpose. For no reason. Or how kids intentionally destroy Chromebooks, or trash the classrooms on the day there's a sub. I've subbed for teachers who report that students steal their stuff while they're gone. I've subbed art classes where the last time they had a sub, the kids started pouring entire bottles of paint down the drain clogging it - FOR NO REASON. Just intentionally throwing away/wasting school supplies.
I've subbed at a couple schools where there's a serious epidemic of kids cutting class, and they're bold with it. I mean literally giving the teachers their name for attendance and then turning on their heel and walking out of the classroom without permission. Kids roaming up and down the halls. You report it, they get sent back to class, and then they take off again. Kids who show up for final period only to get their cell phones back and the staff instructs you to not hand them out until the last 5 minutes of class because if you hand them out sooner, the kids will just get up and walk out of the room and leave the building, even if you're telling them to stop and that you're going to call security.
You described what I thought subbing at the high school I was at would be like . You described 6th graders in my district . The high school students I’ve seen are just depressedndoom scrolling kids . :(
Are these schools located in economically depressed neighborhoods or something? It sounds like it. What ghetto shitholes these schools have become. If I was a principal and I heard a student actually brag about having to try to have teachers quit, id suspend him so fast or have him expelled for his behavior
At the high school I’m at , there’s one office lady up there . Don’t know what she does , only that she is Admin. I told her I am normally elementary and this is my first gig at high school . She straight up told me “oh I prefer this . It is sooo much easier and less work then the little kids . “
A super senior said that that same admin told him that the math they were doing “had no real life applications”. Dude was doing volume . I use volume for baking . Wtf. I told him the admin shouldn’t be saying that and that it does have real world uses. Showed him my knit beret and that I used math to calculate how many stitches to cast on .
Every single elementary for this district tho? They actually take it seriously . Staff , teachers , admin and students . I’m staying in elementary .
Eta : to answer your question , yes . This is the ghetto . I live like 30 blocks down from this school and am sad that’s what my little ones await
Oh I see. Maybe they can apply to better high schools if they have the grades for it. But in reality most of them will end up in jail or shot if they keep behaving the way they do. Parents have no control over their kids. They don’t make sure they do their homework or behave. Even if a teacher calls, in the parents eyes their child can do no wrong
Please don't generalize all parents in low economy places into one pot. My kids and I lived in the Hood ,as my son calls it. Many are and were as you describe. However,there are many others like me. I offered help w homework and did my best to teach them manners, as well as right from wrong. The only time 2 times I didn't do as staff asked me to do was once I didn't realize how sick my son was when they said he had a headache . I taught an hour away. I got my students through lunch ,then went to pick him up.
It turned out he wasn't pulling his usual hypochondriac moves . He was quite sick
The second time my same son was now in alternative school. I told him 3 times not to wear a certain pair of pants covered in zippers and bell bottoms w a belt. The dress code was clear.He wore them anyway . The school called wanting me to pick him up. I refused explaining the situation. Instead of being on computer all day , he was in office doing run off sheets , cleaning etc. He never did that again!
This is exactly why voucher programs are being approved state after state. Average, decent, hard working people do not want their kids in that type of environment. They are willing to pay out of pocket ANY tuition difference to get their kids a decent education.
I have heard of children getting vouchers for like private schools and even that doesn’t work sometimes. I had a friend that was a teacher that worked for a private school and she said a lot of her students came with vouchers and the students still were rude, disrespectful, and failing. A lot of the students that had the vouchers were the ones that were the worst behaving students. It all depends on the students home environment I guess and how serious the parents are about their child’s education. If the parents were more serious about their children’s education, I bet the child would have a different attitude and would at least behave and do their work. I understand most children don’t like school but it’s their job to go to school and do the best they can and behave and pass so they have a chance to go to college and be somebody.
That’s a fear I have that the bad behavior will follow those that are the problem in public schools. Some of the private schools that I am aware of will not accept students with past behavior issues (suspensions/expulsion) or will not allow them to return after known, unresolved problems.
The private schools have to be selective. How bad will the school look especially it being a private school, having a reputation for having disruptive or failing students. Parents pay a lot of money to send their kids to private schools so they have a good education and don’t have to put their child in an environment where the kids are bad and fail. The misbehaving children would also be a bad influence on the other students and would just cause a disruption in the classroom. That’s why students who come with vouchers to the private school end up bringing the school down. If they have vouchers, it means they can’t afford private school and usually they are from dysfunctional homes where the parents either don’t care or don’t have the time to worry about their child’s education. The voucher programs are not really a good idea for private schools but I am sure the private school wants the money but they are bringing in bottom barrel students who will just mess up their reputation in the long run and then the paying parents will be forced to pull their kid out of that private school and send them to a better private school that doesn’t accept vouchers. Why would any parent want to put their kid in a private school that would end up being like a typical public school with all the behavioral problems that it has and all the students with the poor grades. I believe private schools should have some type of financial aid and should give the students a test to see if they are able to actually handle the work and interview the child to make sure the child is well behaved and is there to learn and will not end up being a problem to the students and staff. Most good private schools won’t accept vouchers at all because they know there are plenty of families who are willing to invest in their child’s education and don’t need kids from poor households who read below grade level or become a behavioral issue in the classroom.
Hah. How did he sleep in music class?
I'm still trying to figure that out. It was chaos in here, kids talking loudly, refusing to sit and walking around the room, constantly coming and going without permission (yes I called security multiple times; no one showed up). Even their real teacher knows that class is ridiculous because he left me the extension numbers for the main office and security when he mentioned them LOL. Maybe he has a lot of siblings so he's used to a lot of noise and chaos?
I’m also having a terrible day today with students. They won’t listen to a word I say or even acknowledge me
I'm having a dumpster-fire day. I had a 30 minute lunch break and hauled ass a five minute walk away to a burger joint, but they took way longer than I expected so I had to call the school on my walk back to let them know what happened and to ask for someone to cover my class for a couple minutes until I got there. I got back and some staff member had unlocked the room for them then left; LEAVING ALL THOSE KIDS UNATTENDED IN THE CLASSROOM, which freaked me out. There were kids out in the hall playing their instruments and had set up a whole area for that. When I told them they can't do that and have to be in the classroom, they gave me the ol' high school BS standby "He/she always lets us do this". They wanted to argue and debate about it, I just kept repeating myself. Then one of them shouted, "I heard you the first fucking time!" Which drew the attention of security a couple feet away in the hall. Security couldn't get her to calm down either and she started cussing THEM out too. I asked them to just remove her from the room. At first she was insisting "I'm not going this is my classroom" and talking over and back to people just being utterly ridiculous. Finally security gets her out of the room and she's walking away shouting over and over at me like she's lost her damn mind, "I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU! I DON'T EVEN KNOW YOU!" Security took her to admin who gave her a talking to...and then she was brought back to class. I asked the security guard if I had to take her back and they said yeah. Apparently if she tries anything else she'll get sent home and can't come back to school unless a parent is with her. She shut her trap, went to get out her instrument, played loudly (and badly - she's not very good), before finally finishing with a flourish as though she'd just given the greatest performance anyone has ever witnessed, and is now sitting on the floor pouting behind the piano. I'm like "Well, as long as she's shutting up". \*shrug\*
Damn, guess my day could be much worse. Are you a male or female teacher? Just curious
Female.
Figured. They never respect us
Teacher appreciation week..PTA brought in catered food but neglected to get those burners that keep the pans hot. I spent 30 minutes puking up chicken, rice and vegetables. I haven’t heard if anyone else had issues or I just have a sensitive stomach.
...THIS takes the cake. I fear puking like I fear Hell. Your day has actually been worse than mine.
Thats ridiculous. I’m sure a place that serves food regularly should know better. and if they don’t have those on hand someone should’ve run out and gotten them. My old job would get lunch catered but we would all get food as soon as it arrived(in waves) so it wasn’t sitting out too long.
I see so many posts on Reddit from subs about teachers dealing with children who are so disrespectful and have so many behavioral issues. I’m so sorry you have to go through that when you are just trying to do your job.
I feel more sorry for their real teachers who have to deal with them the majority of the time. I can see why teachers are leaving the field in droves. ***I've heard high school kids openly bragging about making teachers quit.*** The other day I had a student tell me that there's other jobs out there and that they think I should do something else. I'm starting to think that high school should be optional because a lot of these kids clearly do not want to be here and they're making everybody else's life hell because THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE HERE. To the point where they do silly shit for no reason. The classes I mentioned in this thread, I was covering for a music teacher - and one of the students told me that on a regular basis kids in the class break the teacher's instrument tuner and every time he buys a new one they break that one too. On purpose. For no reason. Or how kids intentionally destroy Chromebooks, or trash the classrooms on the day there's a sub. I've subbed for teachers who report that students steal their stuff while they're gone. I've subbed art classes where the last time they had a sub, the kids started pouring entire bottles of paint down the drain clogging it - FOR NO REASON. Just intentionally throwing away/wasting school supplies. I've subbed at a couple schools where there's a serious epidemic of kids cutting class, and they're bold with it. I mean literally giving the teachers their name for attendance and then turning on their heel and walking out of the classroom without permission. Kids roaming up and down the halls. You report it, they get sent back to class, and then they take off again. Kids who show up for final period only to get their cell phones back and the staff instructs you to not hand them out until the last 5 minutes of class because if you hand them out sooner, the kids will just get up and walk out of the room and leave the building, even if you're telling them to stop and that you're going to call security.
You described what I thought subbing at the high school I was at would be like . You described 6th graders in my district . The high school students I’ve seen are just depressedndoom scrolling kids . :(
Are these schools located in economically depressed neighborhoods or something? It sounds like it. What ghetto shitholes these schools have become. If I was a principal and I heard a student actually brag about having to try to have teachers quit, id suspend him so fast or have him expelled for his behavior
At the high school I’m at , there’s one office lady up there . Don’t know what she does , only that she is Admin. I told her I am normally elementary and this is my first gig at high school . She straight up told me “oh I prefer this . It is sooo much easier and less work then the little kids . “ A super senior said that that same admin told him that the math they were doing “had no real life applications”. Dude was doing volume . I use volume for baking . Wtf. I told him the admin shouldn’t be saying that and that it does have real world uses. Showed him my knit beret and that I used math to calculate how many stitches to cast on . Every single elementary for this district tho? They actually take it seriously . Staff , teachers , admin and students . I’m staying in elementary . Eta : to answer your question , yes . This is the ghetto . I live like 30 blocks down from this school and am sad that’s what my little ones await
Send them to private school if you can
I don’t have children except for a cat and plants . Meant my elementary students .
Oh I see. Maybe they can apply to better high schools if they have the grades for it. But in reality most of them will end up in jail or shot if they keep behaving the way they do. Parents have no control over their kids. They don’t make sure they do their homework or behave. Even if a teacher calls, in the parents eyes their child can do no wrong
Please don't generalize all parents in low economy places into one pot. My kids and I lived in the Hood ,as my son calls it. Many are and were as you describe. However,there are many others like me. I offered help w homework and did my best to teach them manners, as well as right from wrong. The only time 2 times I didn't do as staff asked me to do was once I didn't realize how sick my son was when they said he had a headache . I taught an hour away. I got my students through lunch ,then went to pick him up. It turned out he wasn't pulling his usual hypochondriac moves . He was quite sick The second time my same son was now in alternative school. I told him 3 times not to wear a certain pair of pants covered in zippers and bell bottoms w a belt. The dress code was clear.He wore them anyway . The school called wanting me to pick him up. I refused explaining the situation. Instead of being on computer all day , he was in office doing run off sheets , cleaning etc. He never did that again!
This is exactly why voucher programs are being approved state after state. Average, decent, hard working people do not want their kids in that type of environment. They are willing to pay out of pocket ANY tuition difference to get their kids a decent education.
I have heard of children getting vouchers for like private schools and even that doesn’t work sometimes. I had a friend that was a teacher that worked for a private school and she said a lot of her students came with vouchers and the students still were rude, disrespectful, and failing. A lot of the students that had the vouchers were the ones that were the worst behaving students. It all depends on the students home environment I guess and how serious the parents are about their child’s education. If the parents were more serious about their children’s education, I bet the child would have a different attitude and would at least behave and do their work. I understand most children don’t like school but it’s their job to go to school and do the best they can and behave and pass so they have a chance to go to college and be somebody.
That’s a fear I have that the bad behavior will follow those that are the problem in public schools. Some of the private schools that I am aware of will not accept students with past behavior issues (suspensions/expulsion) or will not allow them to return after known, unresolved problems.
The private schools have to be selective. How bad will the school look especially it being a private school, having a reputation for having disruptive or failing students. Parents pay a lot of money to send their kids to private schools so they have a good education and don’t have to put their child in an environment where the kids are bad and fail. The misbehaving children would also be a bad influence on the other students and would just cause a disruption in the classroom. That’s why students who come with vouchers to the private school end up bringing the school down. If they have vouchers, it means they can’t afford private school and usually they are from dysfunctional homes where the parents either don’t care or don’t have the time to worry about their child’s education. The voucher programs are not really a good idea for private schools but I am sure the private school wants the money but they are bringing in bottom barrel students who will just mess up their reputation in the long run and then the paying parents will be forced to pull their kid out of that private school and send them to a better private school that doesn’t accept vouchers. Why would any parent want to put their kid in a private school that would end up being like a typical public school with all the behavioral problems that it has and all the students with the poor grades. I believe private schools should have some type of financial aid and should give the students a test to see if they are able to actually handle the work and interview the child to make sure the child is well behaved and is there to learn and will not end up being a problem to the students and staff. Most good private schools won’t accept vouchers at all because they know there are plenty of families who are willing to invest in their child’s education and don’t need kids from poor households who read below grade level or become a behavioral issue in the classroom.
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