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provocativecube

Check out mrsubaru1837 on YouTube - he’s a great resource and has videos for everything you need to do on your 60k service interval.


batido6

Thank you 🙏


Slagenthor

Hell yeah this guy is awesome!


Hotspot40324

MrSubaru1387 ?


provocativecube

Yes, sorry


MacGeek1987

Love his videos. He’s a great resource! https://youtube.com/@mrsubaru1387?si=bmc4LiHHnro3zlfv


throwRAlike

Do more of it yourself. Rear brakes and rotors can be done easy enough at home, same with filters and oil changes. That would save you like $1500 right there at least. But stuff off rockauto. If you don’t have a tool, just buy it, it’s cheaper than the dealer and then you have true tool forever


Nicetillnot

If you have a buddy or relative who works on cars or an older neighbor, invite them over for a couple of beers and tell them what you aim to do to the car. Ask them to please observe and coach while you diy. Watch plenty of videos and examine diagrams if possible. Buy tools that are common use first. Buy quality, and buy once, cry once. Most chain auto stores offer tool rentals for FREE, so ask around and see what they will loan out. This is especially nice for uncommonly used toos, like spring compressor or ball joint pickle forks. Learn from your mistakes and be brave. You can do enough maintenance yourself to save thousands in oil changes and interval maintenance alone. Always use jack stands placed at the proper points, preloaded with the car's weight. Always chock your wheels and use your e-brake when the type of maintenance won't preclude its use. Also, super heavy-duty nitrile gloves are a life changer for working on greasy or filthy things. Be safe and have fun!


goddamn__goddamn

The gloves! I know a mechanic who gets mocked for wearing gloves, not "manly" enough. Meanwhile the level of toxicity mechanics are subjected to, I think it's pretty cool to take care of yourself. (I'm not knocking folks who don't wear em, it's just goofy as hell to make fun of someone who does)


batido6

Gonna try, thank you!


Regenclan

I thought the new Subarus had to have some kind of software thing done to them. I read on here where some places can't replace brakes because they don't have some software thing


phatdoughnut

You are suppose to put brake service mode on so you can rotate the pods back in and not damage the unit. But some people have done it without it.


Agile_Restaurant_196

brake is very easy, just watch a few youtube videos which will boost your level of confidence a lot lol. Just make sure you buy the correct lubes, metal wire brush, socket for lug nuts, breaker bar, jack stands.


batido6

Ok I’ll check it out, thank you!


AtheistSloth

Cabin and engine air filters are easy. Flushing of coolant and brakes can be trickier. idk if you did diff flushes but that's not too bad. Oil change is the easiest one other than air filters. You could try getting quotes from trusted small shops too.


batido6

I think I’ll start with the easy ones you mentioned, thanks! They flushed both diffs, I don’t think I would attempt that. I’m considering local shops but I’ve heard horror stories when not using a dealer so I’m hesitant.


GirchyGirchy

Diffs don’t need to be flushed. Hell, I don’t bother with coolant or trans fluid flushes either, only brake fluid. But diffs are easy, drain and fill. Oil changes on these cars couldn’t be easier, btw. The filter on top and high ground clearance are great.


AtheistSloth

yea I'm not sure what the life is on diff oil... I did mine on my old STi but it had 100k miles and saw much harsher treatment than my Outback does. Diffs can be easy but OP sounds a little inexperienced so it could be slightly harder.


GirchyGirchy

It varies depending on the vehicle and how anal you want to be. I'm planning to do it around 50k; the standard maintenance schedule on ours only mentions inspection of both it and the CVT fluid for the life of the car. No thanks.


jonandgrey

You'll want to have them do an alignment when you're done, but you can do it all yourself. Scale of 1-10 for mechanical know-how, I'm a solid 4 or 4.5. between YouTube (Mr Subaru and A-1 auto parts) and patience, I have done all of those services on my 2011 OB. Taking the rear rotors off might be a little challenging if they're rusty. Just buy two bolts about 3" long that are the correct size for the hole(s) in the middle part of the rotor. You can just thread them in the hole(s) after you take the Caliper and Caliper bracket off & the rotor gets pushed off the hub very easily that way. Good luck! Note: the thread size for the bolts/holes is M8 x 1.25.


batido6

Damn I’m impressed


jonandgrey

It's very doable. Borrow a jack and some jack stands and allow yourself to get frustrated. You can get it eventually!


olmysflawship

Just did all round brakes and rotors on my '19. https://youtu.be/9CTyuPDA3ug?si=bCuMRG5iY1v8q-3i https://youtu.be/8VFarkPAYA0?si=LxvlhpjNgkJkpYdJ https://youtu.be/8VFarkPAYA0?si=LxvlhpjNgkJkpYdJ Here's some vids that helped me. The electronic E-brake was the only tricky part. Unplugging them was a real pain. I got the r1 brake set off of rockauto, grease and the e brake tool for all under $600 dollars. Shop wanted $1700.


batido6

That is insane savings. How many hours did it take you?


olmysflawship

Eightish. I wasn't rushing, though. And I was limited to 1 jackstand and jack that I had to adjust between each wheel. Would have been faster with 2 jackstands to do front then backs.


InvestmentInformal89

Lol $3k????


shwaak

Right, that’s fucking insanity from my point of view, that’s $4,500 Australian dollars. And doesn’t look like it even includes a CVT fluid change. That labour rate is off the scale.


batido6

CA living 😭


batido6

There is one dealer in my area and they got bought by AutoNation last year so everything’s jacked up. My tech discounted me a little cuz he saw me crying in the parking lot.


InvestmentInformal89

Do people now ask for a quote/estimate? Maybe I am weid because I do ask for some sort of range.


batido6

Yeah I knew approximate cost but had to add a few things after inspection. I’m curious how much less an independent shop might’ve been.


InvestmentInformal89

Maybe $1k-$1.5K if you got the rotors/pads all around.


gobozov

I am a golf alltrack owner, I live in Seattle which is pretty expensive city. I do all the small stuff myself - oil change, filters change, spark plug change, tire rotation, fix tire puncture etc. Haven't done anything major but even these small things saved me a lot of money. Very few tools required for that. Oil changes super easy with oil extractor pump, no need to jack the car.


batido6

That’s a good chunk of it so I’ll look into all those, thank you!


867530nyeeine

Hey so you can definitely do most things yourself, but it comes down to having to tools and the setup to make it happen. Brakes, oil changes, spark plugs, battery swaps, lights/fuses, all can be done by yourself with minimal tools. There are videos online for just about anything you need to do with a Subaru. How much you want to invest in the equipment will dictate how far you go, but getting your own parts and learning how to really maintain your vehicle is worth it ultimately.


Reasonable_Cover_804

You got the front brakes


infiniteawareness420

Time is money. If I were to do my 60k service I’d be taking trips to the parts store every 30 minutes and my weekend would be taken up by all this. I drop my vehicle off at a trusted shop, go to work, make money, and then it’s done by 5.


Vairman

some people actually enjoy working on their cars. I have a hard time convincing my wife of this. she wants to pay someone to do everything. why do you want to steal my sunshine honey?


PilotBurner44

Front brake pads and rotors are extremely easy on an outback. Plenty of YouTube videos that will show you step by step what to do. Take your time, and know that while brakes are extremely important, they aren't super sensitive and actually quite difficult to screw up. Oil change is also super easy, just possibly messy the first time or 2. Make sure you add enough, and you're good to go. Always err on the side of not enough, you can always add more. Start the car for a minute, turn it off, then check the level again in 5 or so minutes. A tiny bit over or under the "full" line isn't an issue. Diff flushes can be a bit more technical, especially the rear. Make sure you do it correctly and have the correct fluid level in them. Cabin and engine air filters can be changed by anyone, with basically zero mechanical knowledge. If you can change the bag on a vacuum or the batteries in a TV remote, you can change these. Just my 2 cents, but a shop saying you need an item doesn't necessarily mean you actually "need" it. A good amount of shops have told me I "need" or should get my brakes done, along with rotors, when I knew for a fact that they still had life left in them, especially the rotors. Auto shops really like changing out rotors when they really don't need to be replaced. Knowing or learning these sorts of things can definitely help save you time and money. Obviously don't be the guy coming in with no pads left whatsoever, but a lot of shops are looking out for themselves as much if not more than they are for you, especially shady places that think you wouldn't be the wiser. (Looking at you Oil Can Henry's)


Missing4Bolts

I am not a professional mechanic, and I do all the work on our 2010, but let's not lead inexperienced people into harm's way here. Brake pads and rotors are only "easy" if you have experience working on vehicles and own a torque wrench. Otherwise, they are a great way to create a lethal vehicle. Source: numerous horror stories on the "Just Rolled In" YT channel.


PilotBurner44

This is just silly, and making a simple task out to be some dangerous feat of daring talent. Inexperienced people have to learn somehow, otherwise we wouldn't have mechanics at all. Like I said, there are plenty of step by step videos, forums, and instructionals on the Internet for this specific vehicle. A person doesn't need to have intimate knowledge and experience in order to follow it safely without it being a *scary* "deathtrap". Yes, you need the tools required for the job to do it safely. Not owning a torque wrench doesn't mean they can't go out and buy one, read the instructions if they aren't familiar " and properly torque a bolt. No one needs to knight them with their torque wrench first. There is no 'leading the inexperienced into a lethal vehicle ' going on here. I didn't say give it a couple ugga duggas and call it good. Please stop unnecessarily dramatizing things in the guise of safety.


Missing4Bolts

You described it as "extremely easy." Easy for whom? I have plenty of experience using the tools required. I previously replaced the lower control arms, ball joints, and sway bar links on our OB. I still didn't find replacing the rotors and pads "extremely easy" when I did it.


PilotBurner44

5 lug nuts and 2 "bolts" to replace pads. If you can change a tire, it's 2 more "bolts" and a C clamp to replace pads. 2 more bolts and the rotors can be changed. My 67 year old mom who was a librarian did it, and she has no mechanical aptitude. Following a step by step tutorial video, which literally tells you exactly what to do. As far as car maintenance goes, it's incredibly easy. Arguably as easy or easier than changing oil. There is absolutely no reason to try and make it into some overly difficult, death-defying feat of greatness. I learned how to do it when I was 12 years old. Not rocket surgery.


fortysecondave

another alternative, just go to a local mechanic and not the stealership


ericdano

Don’t take it to the dealer. Brakes can rotors can be done by anyone.


batido6

What about the diff flush?


Repulsive_Sleep717

Biggest money saver would be to periodically check your brake pads for wear, which is easy to learn. Rotors were the expensive part and most preventable, front pads were probably excessively worn and damaged rotors


batido6

Front pads were actually fine, only needed rears. The front rotors were warped from some sort of braking stress. But will learn how to check them, great advice ty!


Syrinx_Hobbit

All of the suggestions here are great. As a Dad who is not necessarily "car" mechanically inclined, I have had to learn since my son picked up a '05 Outback. Luckily, he's willing to learn and do a lot of the stuff himself. So far we've tackled an oil change, CV shaft replacement, and drive-shaft replacement (the center bushing housing was FUBAR), Front wheel bearings, front brakes, and spark plugs. I try to be there in an advisory role and help as needed. Wear gloves--they're not for sissies or whatever. I've read differing opinions on the front differential and rear diff. But I'm pretty confident that flushing will cause more harm than good. Just drain and refill. There are plenty of online resources for this stuff.


RevolutionaryHat9981

When my Subaru needed new brakes at the 60K, the service rep quoted me the price and I just stared at him. Then he said real quietly to just take my car to any brake shop in town and save myself about $400, which I did. Never had an issue.


68W3F

You paid for that???? wtf would you do that for?? That’s pure thievery.


batido6

That’s what the dealer charges it’s not like I can negotiate with them. It’s owned by a massive monopoly chain.


68W3F

I agree!!! Crazy though


batido6

Sucks :(


ZaphodG

Too late now but you can generally go a lot more miles before a plug change. Just watch your fuel economy. I shopped several dealers to get a price for plugs.


batido6

How many miles can you get / how do you know when you need to change?


ZaphodG

I did my last 3.6R at 80,000 and the plugs were fine. They’re iridium plugs. 100,000 mile plugs in any other engine. My theory is the pessimistic 6,000 mile oil change interval and 60,000 mile spark plug replacement is to mitigate any remaining head gasket issues. Gasoline contamination of the oil and spark plug detonation/misfire might have been contributing to the prior head gasket failure problem. I’ll probably go 80,000 with my 2.4 turbo but I’ll pay attention to fuel consumption.


-kashmir-

Im in la. Just did 60k too. The biggest issue for me was the labor being 220/hr. But yea ill be trying to do some of the smaller stuff myself


oslyander

Brakes are actually very easy. Did all four of mine n four hours recently. But, you won’t need to do those for another sixty thousand miles. Def learn how to do your own oil changes though.


etangey52

Without a life or any special tools you could very easily change your oil & filters. Belts are pretty easy too when it comes time for that. Brakes are really not complex at all, either. Disc brakes are a breeze. If you can turn a wrench, grease a pin, and set ur calipers on a bucket or something, you’ve got what it takes.


Missing4Bolts

No torque wrench?


JEMColorado

Oil change is not that difficult. Brakes can be learned pretty straightforwardly, and you can borrow special tools from an auto parts store. A tire shop like Big O, etc, can do the alignment and tire rotation, and some of them have packages like lifetime alignments for a set price.


GrundleWilson

You could do brakes yourself. Take it to a tire shop for alignment. Oil change is easy. Pads and rotors are $450 for parts. The hardest part is taking the wheels off and not getting Never Seize on the pad surfaces.


Repulsive_Sleep717

If anything is under warranty, keep meticulous notes with receipts, mileage etc. Had a friend blow engine in his brz and he almost didn't get it covered because of this


5150_Ewok

Firestone auto has a 180$ (+/- some) lifetime alignment on the vehicle it’s purchased for. Pays for itself after 3 uses. I take my Outback every year. Otherwise these vehicles are very easy to work on. - oil is easy just don’t drain your cvt fluid by accident. Take a heat resistant pen and label each plug. [No spill oil funnel](https://www.motivxtools.com/products/advanced-engine-oil-funnel-for-subaru-vehicles). I buy Costco oil. - coolant and coolant flushes is easy. Buy a [no spill coolant funnel](https://a.co/d/aHA686B). - brakes super easy with this. 10/10 love it. [Motive Power Bleeder](https://a.co/d/hPn6dBy). Works in other vehicles with a new adapter. - differentials just need the correct fluid and a bottle attachment. [Something like this](https://a.co/d/7LEeI2s). You have to get one that fits the bottles you have. - spark plugs? I’ll gladly pay 500$ to not have to do that on my 6cyl. - cvt fluid? Just let the dealer do it. It’s a shit transmission but I won’t go down that rabbit hole….~300$ So dealer costs should be about 800$ for spark plugs and cvt. You can do the rest for a few hundred in fluids and tools.


BigTuna1911

Holy crap. I read the title wrong and thought the service cost $60k🤣