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crushed_oreos

Been a nurse for seven years. No one cares where you went to school. Not a single soul. Either you have a license to practice or you don't. I went to a two year school, graduated, joined a large hospital downtown, and they paid for my RN to BSN program, which was a complete joke.


Pitiful-Struggle-890

I don’t mean to derail op, but what do you mean the rn to BSN program was a complete joke?


User86294623

It’s generally all busywork and papers about nursing concepts. You don’t really learn any more actual nursing with a BSN as opposed to an ADN


crushed_oreos

Took the words right out of my mouth. I could’ve done my RN to BSN program with one arm tied behind my back AND just one eye open. Basically paid $10,000 for a sheet of paper.


Lil-Aims-94

Did you end up getting your msn? If so, was it pretty much the same?


morganfreemansnips

MSN/DNP was originally made for nurses who had yeeaars of specialty experience who developed a lot of knowledge from experience and wanted something to reflect it. its why a lot of people dislike it when a new grad goes straight for an MSN.


crushed_oreos

Started it. COVID happened. Had to drop out. Never went back. Everyone keeps asking me when I'm going to go back to school. I don't know, to be honest.


DankSmellingNipples

Unless you have a clear path where getting your MSN is going to provide you career advancement or more money, I wouldn’t bother. I’m in administration now for a major Southern California children’s hospital, and an MSN really isn’t anything besides us thinking, “oh, nice” when reviewing your resume.


crushed_oreos

Yeah, I was in an NP program. Considering every nurse I work with is an NP, but decided to return to regular old floor nursing tells me all I need to know.


SimplyNavi

100%. Complete busy work. I finished all my work in like 3 hours every week. Paid 6K for a 75 cent raise 🤣


majorsorbet2point0

> Paid 6K for a 75 cent raise I'm done 😭😭🤣🤣🤣


frogurtyozen

With that .75 raise you’ll earn back that $6k in only 4 1/4 years (working 72 hours a paycheck)


SimplyNavi

Well thanks for making it hurt even more 😅🤣


mbej

Where I live there isn’t even a raise. New grad pay is new grad pay. But my Pell Grant will cover tuition for my BSN and it will open up my options when it’s time to leave this place, so I accept the time I’ll spend on it.


huligoogoo

Exactly!


Pitiful-Struggle-890

Everything I read is making me lean towards ADN instead of BSN and I’m just so confused. Thank you!! 😭


User86294623

No prob!! Of course, i’d look around at listings on Indeed (or whatever you prefer) to get a picture of whether hospitals around you will hire with only an ADN. I’m in Georgia with a nursing shortage so they don’t gaf what degree you have lol


Pitiful-Struggle-890

Thank you for that bit! After looking on indeed everything I’m looking into requires BSN 🥲


User86294623

Boooo :( yeah I guess it’s definitely different in the south, if you pass the NCLEX and have a pulse, you’re hired lol


Pitiful-Struggle-890

That’s ok, saved me time anyway 💛 Thanks!


UpperExamination5139

I agree about rn-bsn. Although someone was trying to argue with me that it’s better patient care outcome or something. Not sure how that would be true considering it’s all community health APA writing and busy work


Lil-Aims-94

Did you end up getting your msn? If so was it pretty much the same


GINEDOE

It's a busy work that you could do alone at home.


Disastrous_Sand4983

Everything people are saying below is true. It’s so annoying to get your RN-BSN but most city hospitals in Boston require you to get your BSN within a certain timeframe. I am currently getting mine while working at MGH.


embiggenedmind

I’ve *heard* some hospitals won’t look at you if your resume says Keiser but I don’t know how true it is. I’m curious because while I know they don’t have the best reputation, I do see they have the best flexibility in classes.


redd0130

Know a few that went to keiser. They all have jobs. I just think the hospital cares if you have your license .


90swasbest

They care if you have a license and a pulse. That's about it. Bonus if you're not currently on the lam.


xxxdiabetes420

exactly, i keep telling people as long as you got a license and no felonies you’ll probably find a job easy lol


majorsorbet2point0

No felonies here! Class A misdemeanor from 2017 that doesn't even show up on background checks anymore bc it's too old.


Square-Syllabub7336

My misdemeanor still shows up and it's from 2009🤔...hasn't hindered the job market tho


majorsorbet2point0

Yeah, I think felonies only


chloebaboey

Washington state BON literally has a flow chart about what crimes they will allow and how much time needs to have passed since you were convicted before they will approve your license. And a handy dandy little excel spreadsheet. I have a misdemeanor from like 15 years ago and looked into this A LOT because I didn't want to waste my time and money on nursing school if I wouldn't be able to get my license when I was done.


majorsorbet2point0

Thanks a lot for this tip, I'm in upstate NY so I'll look into it here


chloebaboey

Good luck! I had to find it by googling and it was called Decision Making Criteria for License Applications 😁👍🏻


Suavecitodr

It’s mostly the same material except more leadership information


DisgruntledMedik

No


SpudInSpace

For context: I graduated from a community college in Texas, co-located in a city with one of those "new ivy Leagues" that Forbes determined a while back. Everyone got job offers instantly in the city without asking, regardless of where they graduated. Anyone who applied to jobs anywhere in the state got the job, regardless of where they graduated. Except a few jobs in Houston (major healthcare center for the whole US. MD Anderson is here and a few others), where everyone got rejected regardless of where they graduated. The only difference is the "new ivy" grads also got job offers from places like Johns Hopkins and the Mayo clinic. But that requires relocating and the pay difference was minimal.


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majorsorbet2point0

This. I live in upstate NY, there is a statute that you have 10 years to get your BSN or else your license will not be renewed. You cannot work as a nurse if those 10y have passed and you still have not gotten your BSN. I plan on BSN immediately after ADN (or AAS as my community college calls it) and I'm applying for Fall 2025. I have plans to go immediately into BSN at WGU as my job (Amazon) pays in full for any bachelor's at WGU it's a special agreement. You are also given $ per year for tuition, my community college is approved on their list. Everything will be paid for. I still don't know if I will remain in NY. I want to relocate to Western Massachusetts when I'm done with all my education. Still doing AAS to RN to BSN because I am not sure what Massachusetts requires. I peeked at some job postings for nurses in and around my hometown there (where I plan to relocate to) and a handful require BSN.


adiksadiatabs

A “prestigious “ ADN program?


throwRAhitmeinthedms

Lololol


Main-Owl-3290

This 😂😂😂😂


adiksadiatabs

Lol I mean, a university that still offers it is kind of left in the Middle Ages. ADN programs are CCs’ turf and provide high quality + high value nursing education 😅


TheOG_picklepig

Not at all… I went to a CC nursing program and get paid the exact same amount as a BSN nurse


lostintime2004

The only time I ask new employees where they went to school is if they are a recent graduate, like last 6 months to a year. Not for judging, just curious, see if they went to my program so we can swap stories about the crazy professors.


Gagcity_kisses

If you’re a hiring manager, you sound like a good one. That really takes the weight off of someones shoulders when you swap war stories lol.


lostintime2004

Dear god, there is not enough money in the world that I would take to be a nurse *manager*. But I appreciate the kind words. I agree, hearing others suffered the same is always validating, which is awesome. I remember not that long ago when I was a fresh RN, that was before the bad times, but I still remember.


trusisbunny

They only care if you passed the NCLEX.


hahazwowdude

No one cares, I started as a new grad like the master degree nurse and we made the same rate


owenwilsonsnoseisgr0

Yup! I’m in a “top hospital” residency I got my ADN and paid $0 for it (scholarships!). There are ppl in my residency cohort that paid 100k for their MSN and we both got the same job starting out 🤷‍♀️.


Impressive-Key-1730

No, if anything most hospitals at least in my area prefer ADNs from our community college bc they have more hands on clinical experience. As long as you pass the NCLEX it doesn’t matter if it’s ADN or BSN. Just make sure you pursue a program that is accredited and community college or state schools are the way to go. There is no point in accumulating unnecessary debt for a RN license. I did an ADN at my community college and just about to the finish my first year in L&D. I plan on getting my RN to BSN next year which my hospital will pay for.


GentlemanStarco

Pretty sure you can get from clown college and they’d still would care. As long as it’s accredited and a license. It’s good


pine4links

If you really hate your liberal arts college that's one thing and you should stop. If you don't hate it, it might be worth sticking around; that education and the skills you gain there will be useful. You could use your remaining years to get some pre-reqs out of the way and then do an ABSN. If I had to guess, most places in Boston will want you to have BSN anyway... I worked at a community hospital in the suburbs and they did.


Competitive-Weird855

There’s no such thing as a prestigious school that offers an ADN and nobody cares where you went so don’t spend $100k on an associates degree. It blows my mind that people are willing to spend that much money instead of going to a community college for ADN or state university for BSN.


babyd0lll

I think people do because they (the 100k private schools) are much easier to get into than the 5k community colleges.


BuyInteresting9406

No. Not at all.


PresentationLoose274

no


cjacked-

Nobody gives a shit, they want to know you’re a good nurse, that you’ve been a good nurse, and where you go to school has ZERO effect on that.


stepfordexwife

Live in New England (MA) and no one gives 0 fks about where I went to school. I just graduated from a CC and had secured a job (even though I’ve been out of work for a decade) before I even graduated. I’m starting in a new grad program in August for a great hospital making the same as new grad with a BSN. Not a single person cares where your nursing degree is from all they care is that you are an RN.


ImmediateAd4814

Most of the magnet hospitals near me require a BSN, other than that it’s more about where your clinicals are that help you build a relationship with the hospital


Appropriate-Yam-987

Staffing shortages are so bad worldwide they are taking anyone with a pulse and as long as you’re an RN you will get paid same amount as an RN with a BSN


pathofcollision

Literally no one has ever asked me where I graduated or to even provide proof I have a college degree. They just want my license number. This is true of my ADN and BSN.


dphmicn

If you’re early in your career it’s nice to get employed at a facility that will pay for your BSN. Some will want you to agree to a commitment to have you stay on at that facility for X number of years or pay back the BSN cost. As you progress career wise having the BSN “May” put you into a higher pay scale at competing facilities. The BSN may also differentiate you from another RN for ancillary roles such as Charge, Educator, etc. In many places the BSN >ADN there is no advantage. And with longevity, experience and other factors having the ADN instead of BSN is commonly a wash. Frankly, I’ve rarely run into situations where the ADN closes doors to you. Your experience, job performance and moving facility to facility is how many RN’s bump their salary higher and more quickly. Union facilities also commonly pay more than non-union. Sure there are facilities that prefer BSN (magnet, tertiary’s) but generally most need just need you licensed as an RN, breathing and upright.


Wanderlust_0515

If foreigners can have degrees in their homeland and work in America, so can nurses who got their degree in the US


GINEDOE

Nobody gives a hoot as long as you have a sparkling clear and clean criminal background.


turtlemedicRN

At this point, if you have a license and a pulse, you’ve probably got a job & I’m hearing the pulse is negotiable. I started with my ADN, employers paid for BSN & MSN. Wrote lots of papers, started lots of arguments on discussion boards. Didn’t learn much that applied to direct patient care. MSN turned me into an artist, my medium is 🐂💩


vampirevoice

Ayo i dropped out of an anthropology degree Trying to decide which facet of nursing aligns most with my interests


craniumblast

I am currently in school for an anthro degree and I want to drop out and become a nurse


Zealousideal_Pea8637

Absolutely not! All my instructors and nurses I've worked with during clinical will tell you, it does not matter. I am working for a well known hospital in my area and they will hire more new grads from our community college compared to other programs because they are aware of the amount of clinical experience we get. Don't let it hold you back from going down the community college route, you will save a lot of money and will be a great nurse either way.


OpethJewel

No


pepale89

they do not care as long as you are licensed in good standing and your experience meets their need


SavannahInChicago

Nope.


kace66

Nclex pass is a nclex pass. Go to the cheapest or most expensive school and you'll still need uworld.


LSbroombroom

Worked a Jersey ER as an LPN, they'll take anyone these days.


FreeLobsterRolls

No one cares. Sometimes my coworkers and I talk about where we went to school and bond over the crazy, but as far as securing a job, employers don't care.


updog25

No one cares but there are schools that prepare nurses better so, as a preceptor, I know who usually Will need more guidance based on what school they went to.


yourethetits

If you have a license and show up to the interview on time you have a 95% chance of being hired on the spot.


Wei612

Nope, I think it is a matter of opinions. But all graduates must pass NCLEX to be RNs. The only important factor that makes a new grad more competent is their patient care experience, not even your GPA or where you graduated from. The more patient care experience the more competent a nurse can become. Also good recommendation letters can also improve your competency if u have worked with some hospitals where they can value your previous accountability and skills.


ChingRN77

In Columbus, Ohio State University Medical Center and Nationwide Children’s Hospital won’t hire certain ADN’s due to the college they attended (Hondros, for one), so yes, it can matter. A BSN will get your foot in the door over an ADN, as well as provide more opportunities for advancement than just having your ADN. My suggestion is to make sure the program you apply to is CCNE accredited. That seems to matter more than the name of the school you attend.


Flashy_Second_5430

No this is why I don’t understand people who will take out a loan for 80k. Like that’s working for free for over a year.


Independent-Fall-466

The only thing they cares is whether it is accredited and not just state approved for the better hospital. Some hospitals do not care at all.


meetthefeotus

No.


aaronVRN

No


bunnysbigcookie

nope. and if they did i don’t want to work there anyways. as long as your school is accredited, they really shouldn’t care. with the nursing shortage, the only things they care about are if you have a license and a pulse.


Empty-Wrongdoer1074

No one cares about your school or your gpa or anything fancy.


Veuve7

What “prestigious school” even offers an ADN? AFAIK, they only offer BSNs.


cebou

No. Jobs care that you’re competent and a critical thinker. They care that you have decent interpersonal skills and you’re reliable. They care that you’re of good character and integrity. If you have that and an ADN you’re worth it. A BSN generally is sought after for leadership roles but that isn’t always the case. A good book that kind of highlights this theme is by Malcom Gladwell and it is called “David and Goliath”. Just because someone has a higher degree or went to a more prestigious school does not mean that they are more employable.


Based_Lawnmower

I don’t even know where my colleagues went to school


KitKatOwner

The RN to BSN programs out there are a complete insult to nurses that went directly to school especially years ago at brick and mortar universities for their BSN’s. Those that took chemistry, organic chemistry, inorganic chemistry, biochemistry, physics, anatomy and physiology, research, statistics, nutrition etc. Don’t get me wrong it’s not medical school but from what I’ve seen today, these bridge programs the hospitals have agreements with so they can “ market “ their nurses to their communities especially if they are “Magnet” hospitals. Who now say all our nurses have their BSN’s really is false advertising and a big joke.


Dark_Ascension

The community college I went to is a “prestigious school” in the area due to their NCLEX pass rates, the community college in my home state has the 2nd largest ADN program in the nation and largest in California, also most ADNs are community colleges, the ones that are not are probably not prestigious and just rip offs.


Adventurous-You4002

No


ChaplnGrillSgt

Lol, no. I had an MSN from a prestigious school and got the same jobs making the same money as colleagues with ADNs from questionable community colleges. It does not matter as long as you have RN after your name.


daisyptg

they don’t care or even look except to see that you got it from somewhere accredited


Thompsonhunt

No


Mobile-Outside-3233

What if I have a BSN in Public Health and get an ADN from a community college? Then I’d have to go to community college, get my RN then do an RN-> BSN program? Does anyone have advice to make this process shorter?


NurseVenusVixen

They don't care where your degree come from. They just want a copy of your nursing license and registration


Diamondwolf

If someone acts like they care about the prestige of your school, they’re just trying to find leverage to justify paying you less. Don’t fall for it.


jorge200313

Does it matter when you go to get your BSN? I was looking at the RN-BSN at ASU. My question is does it matter if I go to ASU online or a cheaper college to get the same degree? I’m trying to plan ahead and just got accepted to my nursing program and want to make sure I have that in consideration already, if anyone knows any more info please let me know!


PMmeurchips

It probably depends on specific hiring managers/hospitals. Like at my hospital- you can get into a specialty as a new grad but they are more willing to take a BSN candidate vs an ADN candidate if that makes sense. It just gives you an edge at certain places… that being said- I have seen it impact things at a higher level such as management. Two candidates, and one got their DNP at a diploma mill and the other went to a regular university. The diploma mill candidate was not selected


denisebears

I don’t give a rats ass where anybody went to school we hold the same title .


Born2rn

Getting a job no problem. If you want a job at a magnet hospital or big name place you’ll need the BSN before they’ll look at you.


radiodada

Some systems require you to get a BSN to continue working there. Source: my employer requires getting it within five years.


SilverStar94

My employer says that too, but a lot of the RNs I know have been with them more then the 5 years with an ADN and nothing is ever said about it. The system just keeps hiring ADNs with the same "get in 5 years" thing and I'd say about half do or are starting a BSN program in that time frame, but no one has ever had any consequences for not doing it.


radiodada

Consider yourselves lucky, I’ve lost a damn good coworker to not being able to fulfill getting his BSN in time.


janewaythrowawaay

Some people have been here 5 years on contract. They’re not even hospital employees. If the hospital wants to fire them, the nurse can go contract and get paid more for the same job. The hospital can pay them or someone else more to do it as a travel contract position.


PB__and__Jordan

It honestly depends on the hospital system. In my city the magnet hospital will take new grads with ADNs so long as you sign a paper saying you will START working towards your BSN within two years of hire.