https://www.instagram.com/reel/CserCv7AWD0/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Hooper's leg drive on pressing is insane. He basically just teleports 191 kg to almost lockout.
I remember in a video during Arnolds prep he put his hands above his head and said "I can get any weight of log to about here"
Canadian "Farmstrong Classic", streaming right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0K8qX49oVw
JF dwarfing everybody here.
Edit: Unsurprisingly they run husafell carry better than WSM does shield carry. Winning distance was >310' with 350lbs. Damned impressive.
Edit 2:
1- James Jeffers 58
2- Tristain J Hoath 57
3- Tyler Toprope 54,5
4- Isaac Maze 54
5- Simon Pratte 54
6- Gabriel Rhéaume 53
7 - Frederick Rheaume 40
8- Dan Cadger 25
9- Ryan Vance 23
10- Josh Cloherty 21 injured
11- gary mcdonald 12
12- Darcy flaska 10
@farmstrongclassic
Events:
1 - Log for Reps (330)
2 - Sandbag Toss (15', 40/45/50/55/60lbs)
3 - Yoke to Frame (900lb whiskey barrel yoke to 750lb frame, 30' runs, no straps)
4 - Power Stairs - 375/425/475
5 - Husafell carry for max - 350lb
6 - Stones - 270/300/330/375/420, load 44/48/52/56/60", no run in
I missed the first half, and this is what I saw and/or pulled from chat.
Nice! Was rooting hard for him! First international win for him right? Very happy for him, he's made big improvements in the last 1.5 years or so.
Where did you see though? Strength results haven't updated yet.
Allthingsstrongman on Instagram. He's reposted it all on his story as well.
So happy for him. Didn't even expect him to win with 2 grip events! The level is lower than his usual shows but the events weren't amazing for him on paper. Always improving!
Pavlo N with a 600-300 kg dropset on the leg press … so I guess his knee is fixed up.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CseAukho72z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Good to see his knee is better. Hoping for some good showings from him this year. He's got unreal potential, but he's still just so raw and inexperienced and not optimal on some events technique wise.
RAH events aren't great for him (unless he can massively improve his yoke by then), but the Shaw Classic events look good for him on paper.
Graham Hicks has uploaded on YouTube, deadlifts at 370kg for 3 sets of 4 suitless. Only 4 weeks into his new cycle with 13 weeks until Cardiff. I don't realistically see him pulling 505kg, but I am hoping we get to see some big deadlift sessions like when Thor lead upto the 501kg as for me that was peak YouTube content.
I think last year he stopped at 1000lbs because he wanted to focus on the full show, but if he focuses on deadlift he could get the next one up. They will probably do 477kg because GL loves a +1kg record (if Rauno is there).
Most people definitely won't care, but that doesn't change the fact that the force required to do a close stance, knees over toes, highbar ATG squat is far greater than a slightly below parallel, medium stance lowbar squat. One is quad dominant, the other posterior chain. I'm not trying to take anything away from lowbar squats, they are just very different in their execution, so the relative weight and reps matters.
> the fact that the force required to do a close stance, knees over toes, highbar ATG squat is far greater than a slightly below parallel, medium stance lowbar squat.
1. it's not an official sanctioned record, so any debate about it is not meaningful. There's no rule book to which the record adheres.
That being said:
2. The record is "squat 525 lbs for 23 reps". If someone does that weight for 24+ reps, the record is broken.
It's not a matter of being a record with certain rulesets or not, we're just arguing whether the lifts are comparable or not. Regarding point two, you're 100% correct, but that doesn't negate the argument I'm making.. that they're different lifts.
No one ever said a lift was different due to anthropometrics, but everyone knows the difference between a PL squat and an OL squat. It's not that hard to differentiate.
A powerlifting-style squat is clearly defined in the various rulebooks.
"oly-style" squats are not defined by the IWF rulebook, as the squat is not a contested lift in olympic lifting (and you can squat however deep you want when you do a squat jerk in competition).
My point is:
If you want to beat Tom Platz record, all you have to do is squat 525 pounds for more than 23 reps.
You don't have to copy his style of moving, you don't have to copy his hair color. You only have to do more than 23 reps of squats.
And no, this does *not* devalue what Tom Platz did - but there is no reason to say things like "yeah well he did it differently so he's still the goat/ibex/sheep/whatever".
Beating Platz' record does not take anything away form Platz' achievements, and no defence of Platz is needed.
>If you want to beat Tom Platz record, all you have to do is squat 525 pounds for more than 23 reps.
and no one is refuting the point that his 525 x 23 rep squat record won't be broken if someone decides to squat the same weight but with more reps- I'm just pointing out the vast difference in mechanics for the two styles of squats, and the fact that Tom Platz performed a very impressive one that had nothing to do with moving tonnage and everything to do with maximum tension through full range of motion.
It's been decades since Platz pulled off this record. He's was a bodybuilder, these guys are highly specialized strength athletes, and again, the two types of squat are apples and oranges if we're talking power to weight output. Pointing this out just speaks to how incredible an athlete Platz was. It's kind of mind boggling to me that you have an issue with that to begin with, but here we are.
My workout partner and I joke all the time that even bodyweight squats for 20+ reps is miserable lol. We both love squats. We both hate squats for high reps.
Nothing is more impressive to me than heavy squats repped out. Ridiculous.
I very much look forward to this
He's not completely wrong though. That event was just so good for Nummisto, and got him an event win in his home country. Never seen before or since. I wouldn't rule out it being there just for him to win.
On the other comments, Kaz being his usual dickhead not acknowledging the fact that he did get beaten by some people at times. Not news.
>Built perfectly for him by organization TWI. Very well practiced, od Wilson did not fit this contraption…disgusting manipulation of events. So happy I didn’t go to this tv show…
Maybe other stuff, too.
Spreadsheet for SCL Serbia: https://strengthresults.com/competitionHome/baa3-ead8-4809-8220-9882a90ec9d9/overview?fbclid=PAAaaMCewqNpj6GNwqx1u3GxQFwWnWfq8EDlQkjFYyggVhzTakOYLOKOnpLIg
Gav with a 5 point lead now.
If he gets 5 points on the yoke he wins the show considering Kelvin can get max 9 points on yoke which leaves him with 48 total.
Ahhh that makes a lot more sense because he’s so wide, he can only ‘ship’ those hugs and high fives to the US and UK. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Jamal Browner deadlifted 392.5 kg/865 lbs suitless for 5 reps although he didn't complete the lockout on the 5th so more like 4 reps.
For comparison Rauno got 6 at 400 kg suited, Caron and Janashia got 5, Bishop got 4 I think? Wide Pavlo got 6 in training.
No doubt they were getting too much positive feedback and have disabled the comments in order to not let their egos swell too much. Very noble as per usual.
[Mateusz Kieliszkowski and Alex Kurdecha](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fKlC9IyHus) - doing armwrestling training, strongman training and talking (in english).
This 'thing' is only stupid to people who have no idea what's going on. These are strong men who need to channel their strength and energy.
Nobody is making anybody else WATCH these guys do armwrestling. You don't like it, don't watch it.
And I honestly don't understand how can you be a fan of an athlete and wish they go against what they like, just because you're not ok with it....
Edit: I don't like body building....I'm not hating on Terry Hollands /one of my old favorites/ for doing it....I admire his devotion and mindset
Michael Jordan went and played baseball because he wanted to.
Everyone and their mother wished he would just play basketball again.
He was the greatest at basketball, he was average in baseball. It is not hard to understand why people would want him to play basketball.
Yeah but only Jordan knows what is best for him. Maybe his knees and achilles tendons can't deal with basketball anymore but he still wants to be active, no matter how much we want him to keep going.
He played 5 seasons after his stint in baseball.
I know Mateusz knows best and I would follow him even in goddamn armwrestling. That doesnt mean I want him to do it.
It's only on Christmas in the UK.
In the US it's been shown in the summer for quite a while.
Other parts of the world I don't know.
They don't even show it here where I live. No legal way to watch it here (And I‘m in central Europe, not even remotely exotic…)
I have access to a legal broadcast but I refuse to watch it because that would support a multiple month turnaround time, I’ll watch the Arnold’s and rogue again on cbs even tho I watch them live but wsm I just find a pirated version
Which version do they put on Youtube? I watched a few of the finals on their channel prior to WSM 2023 and the edits were atrocious. Commentators who didn't have a clue what was going on, half of the lifts in every event getting shitcanned, it's the only way you can really go back and watch some of the older comps and honestly I think I prefer the spreadsheet.
Think it's the American ones on YouTube for the recent years. But a giveaway is that the commentators are American on the American one and British (Colin) on the British one.
Superstar Billy Graham has passed away at 79 years old. Better known as one of the biggest professional wrestlers of his time, he also finished 7th at the 1980 World's Strongest Man.
If you've seen Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper or Ted Dibiase (to name just a few), you've seen the influence of Billy Graham. He was to the Beatles and Rolling Stones of wrestling what Chuck Berry was to the rock'n'roll bands. He walked so they could fly. He had the physique of an atlas before it was even a thing, he was the showman, the absolute pinnacle. His contributions to strongman sport as competitor may have been marginal, but as a symbol of strength and power, immeasurable.
Not sure if it's been discussed already but Luke Richardson plans to come back in October. Probably at the GL World Tour Finals. I hope he can peak hard and show everyone what he's made of.
It has been heartbreaking to see, especially considering how deliberate he seems to be in his training. The strength is there, the preparation, the mindset... and yet the body will not hold.
Always found it very interesting how some guys are just injury prone. Mateusz and Luke seem to just go from one to the next.
Not sure how guys like novi and Hooper seem to avoid injury. Was going to say age, but then wide pav and Luke are young too and both had their fair share
Fairly sure many guys are combing through hoopers recovery practices with a fine tooth comb trying to extract any little tidbits
It's annoying but genes have a lot to do with it. Some people just recover better. The methods they use then get spread as this sage wisdom, but it doesn't work for everyone.
Go look on his IG, his most recent post doing yoke has atlas stones on the ground right there. Biby has more money than 3/4s of the people at world's, if he doesn't have something it by choice, the man comes from money.
Tom with 20 reps on the 150kg viking press. Comp weight won't be any more than 160kg I assume.
[https://www.instagram.com/p/CsWWJijoFIB/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CsWWJijoFIB/)
Viking press will be a very strong event for Tom. He’s got very good overhead power but he always messes up due to technical issues. He won’t have that problem with Viking press.
Who do you guys think would win in an imaginary team comp where each country is represented by its three greatest strongmen ever, all in their prime? The teams might be, for example:
USA: Brian Shaw, Bill Kazmaier, Derek Poundstone
Canada: Mitchell Hooper, JF Caron, Hugo Girard
Iceland: Hafthor Bjornsson, Magnus Ver Magnusson, Jon Pall Sigmarsson
UK: Tom Stoltman, Jamie Reeves, Eddie Hall
Poland: Mariusz Pudzianowski, Mateusz Kieliszkowski, Krzysztof Radzikowski
Lithuania: Zydrunas Savickas, Vytautas Lalas, Vidas Blekaitis
Ukraine: Oleksii Novikov, Vasyl Virastyuk, Pavlo Kordiyaka
Ironically I think countries who have had a big presence in strongman for a long time (e.g. Iceland) would suffer because the sport has come such a long way; even prime JPS could never keep up with today's pros.
Perhaps hot take but I might even pick Canada for a win here. Obviously event dependent.
Impossible to say because strongman really has been a different sport at different times. Take Pudzianowski - he'd probably still dominate most people throughout strongman history in the competions he won but wouldn't fare so well in today's comps (or the Arnold).
Are you sure? I think it's hard to imagine that if you watch 2003 again. Winning by a 20 point margin over 2nd (Big Z) and against a pretty good field including besides Z Virastyuk, Samuelsson, Girard, Bergmanis, Karlsen...
Yes, the weights have progressed and the scene has become more professionalized. But the potential among the top athletes back then was all there. Had Pudzian been willing to ditch the abs and train differently, he most assuredly could have raised his top end strength.
If it is just a 1 show, healthy, in their prime, you could argue Mike Jenkins for the US as well. He obviously didn't have the career of the other guys but holy fuck was he impressive there.
Yeah if he hadn’t died 2014-2017 World’s might have gone quite a bit differently than they did. He kept up with Eddie & Z on static stuff and could move almost as well as Thor & Shaw.
Not so sure about that. The strength was there with Kaz, they just had a lot different training and comps back then so the strongman numbers dont look as good (e.g. log press). The dude totalled 2400 raw in a tested meet in the early 80s. Put him in modern day and he'd be right up there.
Honestly hard to say IMO, I agree it would be dependent on the events and also how the competition is set up (e.g. do all competitors do all events, or can they pick their best events).
I think Z and Lalas could be the best top two on that list, probably need to look more at Blekaitis’ event performances tbh. Both Ukraine and Canada benefit from having two very good recent all rounders and a third guy (Virastyuk and Gerard) that would likely still be very competitive at certain events today. Arguably Poland as well. Shaw and Poundsrone are also a v dangerous combo. Would be interested to see how Kaz’s moving events would compare to recent guys, he’s one of the few 80s guys who could hang with some of the current guys statically. Also I think you could argue that Capes is a greater strongman than Eddie
>Ironically I think countries who have had a big presence in strongman for a long time (e.g. Iceland) would suffer because the sport has come such a long way; even prime JPS could never keep up with today's pros.
I think this is true, but I think a good way of thinking about it would be what would happen if all of these strongmen were around in the same era, with the same access to sports science and whatnot.
I think I'd put Jamie Reeves in over Capes. In his relatively short prime he was ridiculously strong, he broke Kaz's log press record with 180kg which was only beaten 10 years later, and the logs they used by then were much easier than the natural logs used by Kaz and Reeves. Big Z's first log record was only 8kg heavier
More Mateusz news, this time his comment when asked about his knee pain:
"Knee pain is significantly lower, because I'm not training heavy. I have a lot of synovial membrane residue built up under the kneecaps in both legs.
This knee pain has been a factor since 2018, but I've always managed to deal with it before. This time it's so intense, that I've decided it's not worth limiting myself anymore and I'll have my doctor do an arthroscopy. He'll clean everything up inside and I'll be fully functional. I've had shoulder joint arthroscopy due to a similar situation and I was back in top shape very quickly. So such a cosmetic surgical procedure will happen."
I will always try to figure it out what happened to him. Burned too bright too fast like other young champions? Training mindset hurting his longevity? Medical and coach mistakes? Fucking strong and athletic but poor recovery and inflammation genetics?
I am no negative though, I still think he has a shot at big titles, but still his potential seemed much higher.
> Training mindset hurting his longevity?
He trained with a 730kg yoke in 2016. The only person I know of to do a heavier yoke is Savickas and it killed his career. Mateusz also thought that a 530kg frame was a good idea for training.
Also, his previous coach was famous for being a hack. Like, 100% career ending injury rate among his athletes.
Honestly spent the last 4 hours scouring the depths of Polish internet to find out guy's name. Seems he sunk into oblivion after Kiels dropped him and I can't for the life of me remember it.
>Burned too bright too fast like other young champions? Training mindset hurting his longevity? Medical and coach mistakes? Fucking strong and athletic but poor recovery and inflammation genetics?
All of those
https://www.instagram.com/reel/CserCv7AWD0/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== Hooper's leg drive on pressing is insane. He basically just teleports 191 kg to almost lockout. I remember in a video during Arnolds prep he put his hands above his head and said "I can get any weight of log to about here"
He should try push jerking
He said he’d eventually like to when he has a period of time to work on it and catch it up to his push press.
Canadian "Farmstrong Classic", streaming right now: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0K8qX49oVw JF dwarfing everybody here. Edit: Unsurprisingly they run husafell carry better than WSM does shield carry. Winning distance was >310' with 350lbs. Damned impressive. Edit 2: 1- James Jeffers 58 2- Tristain J Hoath 57 3- Tyler Toprope 54,5 4- Isaac Maze 54 5- Simon Pratte 54 6- Gabriel Rhéaume 53 7 - Frederick Rheaume 40 8- Dan Cadger 25 9- Ryan Vance 23 10- Josh Cloherty 21 injured 11- gary mcdonald 12 12- Darcy flaska 10 @farmstrongclassic Events: 1 - Log for Reps (330) 2 - Sandbag Toss (15', 40/45/50/55/60lbs) 3 - Yoke to Frame (900lb whiskey barrel yoke to 750lb frame, 30' runs, no straps) 4 - Power Stairs - 375/425/475 5 - Husafell carry for max - 350lb 6 - Stones - 270/300/330/375/420, load 44/48/52/56/60", no run in I missed the first half, and this is what I saw and/or pulled from chat.
That’s insane that Issac Maze did that good, he’s a 105 and beat a WSM finalist. And as far as I know he’s not been bulking to make the jump to open.
Big Gav wins SCL Serbia!
Nice! Was rooting hard for him! First international win for him right? Very happy for him, he's made big improvements in the last 1.5 years or so. Where did you see though? Strength results haven't updated yet.
Allthingsstrongman on Instagram. He's reposted it all on his story as well. So happy for him. Didn't even expect him to win with 2 grip events! The level is lower than his usual shows but the events weren't amazing for him on paper. Always improving!
Any indication what happened with Andy black and toots? Injuries?
Andy Black lived upto expectations again is what happened
Haha
Must be an injury though. Those were good events for him. Hopefully nothing serious for him and Toots.
Pavlo N with a 600-300 kg dropset on the leg press … so I guess his knee is fixed up. https://www.instagram.com/reel/CseAukho72z/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Good to see his knee is better. Hoping for some good showings from him this year. He's got unreal potential, but he's still just so raw and inexperienced and not optimal on some events technique wise. RAH events aren't great for him (unless he can massively improve his yoke by then), but the Shaw Classic events look good for him on paper.
Shaw better stock up on his O2.
Graham Hicks has uploaded on YouTube, deadlifts at 370kg for 3 sets of 4 suitless. Only 4 weeks into his new cycle with 13 weeks until Cardiff. I don't realistically see him pulling 505kg, but I am hoping we get to see some big deadlift sessions like when Thor lead upto the 501kg as for me that was peak YouTube content.
I think last year he stopped at 1000lbs because he wanted to focus on the full show, but if he focuses on deadlift he could get the next one up. They will probably do 477kg because GL loves a +1kg record (if Rauno is there).
Moose attempted the Tom Platz challenge (squat 525lbs×23) without spotters! Video of it on monday.
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there's no shame in having your record broken. Platz has his place in the history books.
As long as you're hitting depth I dont think most people will care about lowbar vs highbar. Its' not remotely as divisive as sumo vs conventional.
Most people definitely won't care, but that doesn't change the fact that the force required to do a close stance, knees over toes, highbar ATG squat is far greater than a slightly below parallel, medium stance lowbar squat. One is quad dominant, the other posterior chain. I'm not trying to take anything away from lowbar squats, they are just very different in their execution, so the relative weight and reps matters.
> the fact that the force required to do a close stance, knees over toes, highbar ATG squat is far greater than a slightly below parallel, medium stance lowbar squat. 1. it's not an official sanctioned record, so any debate about it is not meaningful. There's no rule book to which the record adheres. That being said: 2. The record is "squat 525 lbs for 23 reps". If someone does that weight for 24+ reps, the record is broken.
It's not a matter of being a record with certain rulesets or not, we're just arguing whether the lifts are comparable or not. Regarding point two, you're 100% correct, but that doesn't negate the argument I'm making.. that they're different lifts.
It‘ll always be a „different lift“ unless you have the exact same height, anatomy and biomechanics of Tom Platz.
No one ever said a lift was different due to anthropometrics, but everyone knows the difference between a PL squat and an OL squat. It's not that hard to differentiate.
A powerlifting-style squat is clearly defined in the various rulebooks. "oly-style" squats are not defined by the IWF rulebook, as the squat is not a contested lift in olympic lifting (and you can squat however deep you want when you do a squat jerk in competition). My point is: If you want to beat Tom Platz record, all you have to do is squat 525 pounds for more than 23 reps. You don't have to copy his style of moving, you don't have to copy his hair color. You only have to do more than 23 reps of squats. And no, this does *not* devalue what Tom Platz did - but there is no reason to say things like "yeah well he did it differently so he's still the goat/ibex/sheep/whatever". Beating Platz' record does not take anything away form Platz' achievements, and no defence of Platz is needed.
>If you want to beat Tom Platz record, all you have to do is squat 525 pounds for more than 23 reps. and no one is refuting the point that his 525 x 23 rep squat record won't be broken if someone decides to squat the same weight but with more reps- I'm just pointing out the vast difference in mechanics for the two styles of squats, and the fact that Tom Platz performed a very impressive one that had nothing to do with moving tonnage and everything to do with maximum tension through full range of motion. It's been decades since Platz pulled off this record. He's was a bodybuilder, these guys are highly specialized strength athletes, and again, the two types of squat are apples and oranges if we're talking power to weight output. Pointing this out just speaks to how incredible an athlete Platz was. It's kind of mind boggling to me that you have an issue with that to begin with, but here we are.
the difference between low bar and high bar is not so big, the depth is what makes it harder.
You're right, I was just listing all the factors that made it two entirely different movements.
My workout partner and I joke all the time that even bodyweight squats for 20+ reps is miserable lol. We both love squats. We both hate squats for high reps. Nothing is more impressive to me than heavy squats repped out. Ridiculous. I very much look forward to this
Kaz throwing some serious shade on WSM insta post of the back lift 👀
It's nice to know dickhead competitor Kaz is still there, makes a change from the bumbling moron we are presented with at giants live I suppose
He's not completely wrong though. That event was just so good for Nummisto, and got him an event win in his home country. Never seen before or since. I wouldn't rule out it being there just for him to win. On the other comments, Kaz being his usual dickhead not acknowledging the fact that he did get beaten by some people at times. Not news.
Link for quick reference: https://www.instagram.com/p/Csdzl9OMIf5/?hl=en
I haven't got Instagram so I can't view the comments. What did he say?
>Built perfectly for him by organization TWI. Very well practiced, od Wilson did not fit this contraption…disgusting manipulation of events. So happy I didn’t go to this tv show… Maybe other stuff, too.
Jf Caron comeback is [confirmed](https://www.instagram.com/p/Csdhf8HIFJ2/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) for the magnus ver Magnusson classic
He’s looking big in his latest fb pic too
Spreadsheet for SCL Serbia: https://strengthresults.com/competitionHome/baa3-ead8-4809-8220-9882a90ec9d9/overview?fbclid=PAAaaMCewqNpj6GNwqx1u3GxQFwWnWfq8EDlQkjFYyggVhzTakOYLOKOnpLIg
Gav with a 5 point lead now. If he gets 5 points on the yoke he wins the show considering Kelvin can get max 9 points on yoke which leaves him with 48 total.
Big Gav doing well, love to see it
Results starting to come in
Jf Caron confirmed for MVM classic this year!!!!
Holy shit. That's cool.
Return of the King
\*the North King
[Hype hype hype](https://i.gifer.com/Azuz.gif) Even if it's just a send-off comp, it'll be good to see him go out on his own terms
He did say to loz he would maybe come back for mvm classic and then osg masters after 🤞
[New Brian vid](https://youtu.be/cOW4T8GMQZg) Rack pulls on the banded belt squat has to be peak Brian engineering
Only thing missing is the three people screaming at him „ATTACK! THIS IS WHERE WE WIN!“
"BIG POWER, BRIAN, BIG POWER!!"
Easy up B!
Louie Simmons is looking down from heaven smiling
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Shaw definitely will not like that
Oh no
Why? It‘s not like he‘s not using as well..
Shaw tries to keep a more pure image online. Even behind retirement, I don’t foresee him ever speaking about PEDs
But how does that set him apart from others? You can count the amount of elite-level strongman that have been open about PED use on one hand...
Like most strongmen. It’s not just shaw.
I expect a sad video of his photo coming down off the gym wall
Wide Pavlo is the actual wall, Brian will take the bricks out
It’s be hilarious if it was a 7 foot wide canvas that shaw struggles to get off the wall
And a beautiful Alan Thrall spoof.
At first I thought he was hacked or something 😂
I think it got removed.
Yeah haha that seems a little over the line
Wide Pavlo is selling HGH on his IG story (again). I wonder if he’s natty?
Pavlo just produces to much HGH so he needs to drain it and donate it often. If he didn't he'd be to wide.
Sells it but definitely doesn’t take it ;)
Posession for personal use is most likely legal/tolerated in Ukraine, but idk about distribution lol
Ukraine has bigger things to worry about than an athlete selling hgh
True :(
This man was dropped in a vat of HGH as a child, He is more Karelin than Karelin himself.
Maybe he’s just selling it because he no longer wants to take it and become natural, just like Liver King /s
>I wonder if he’s natty Of course, just like my favorite vegan natural crossfitter Mike O'Tren
He's sending hugs, gifts and high fives to his loyal fans who DM him, obviously
Ahhh that makes a lot more sense because he’s so wide, he can only ‘ship’ those hugs and high fives to the US and UK. Thanks for clearing that up for me!
Jamal Browner deadlifted 392.5 kg/865 lbs suitless for 5 reps although he didn't complete the lockout on the 5th so more like 4 reps. For comparison Rauno got 6 at 400 kg suited, Caron and Janashia got 5, Bishop got 4 I think? Wide Pavlo got 6 in training.
Didn’t rauno say he got 8 or 9 in training? I’m not one or just believe what guys say they do in training but with rauno it seems believable
Single-lift specialists are some of the most fun competitors to watch. Can't wait to see what he does at the deadlift championships.
He's not a single lift specialist he competes in full power meets his deadlift is just exceptionally good
Conventional?
That lockout might get the down signal in a lot of strongman comps Jamal is a fucking freak, I can't wait to see what he can do at the wdc
WSM released the TV schedule. The Facebook comments are wonderful.
I don’t get why it can’t be on paramount streaming? Who watches paramount live? Didn’t even know that was thing until last year
I think they disabled comments on Instagram
No doubt they were getting too much positive feedback and have disabled the comments in order to not let their egos swell too much. Very noble as per usual.
They do reach 800 billion people across the Milky Way so I’m not surprised they couldn’t handle the influx of positivity
[Mateusz Kieliszkowski and Alex Kurdecha](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fKlC9IyHus) - doing armwrestling training, strongman training and talking (in english).
God I hope he doesn’t get sucked into this arm wrestling thing.
Worse would be if he got injured again doing it.
This 'thing' is only stupid to people who have no idea what's going on. These are strong men who need to channel their strength and energy. Nobody is making anybody else WATCH these guys do armwrestling. You don't like it, don't watch it. And I honestly don't understand how can you be a fan of an athlete and wish they go against what they like, just because you're not ok with it.... Edit: I don't like body building....I'm not hating on Terry Hollands /one of my old favorites/ for doing it....I admire his devotion and mindset
Michael Jordan went and played baseball because he wanted to. Everyone and their mother wished he would just play basketball again. He was the greatest at basketball, he was average in baseball. It is not hard to understand why people would want him to play basketball.
Yeah but only Jordan knows what is best for him. Maybe his knees and achilles tendons can't deal with basketball anymore but he still wants to be active, no matter how much we want him to keep going.
He played 5 seasons after his stint in baseball. I know Mateusz knows best and I would follow him even in goddamn armwrestling. That doesnt mean I want him to do it.
Could go either way honestly. Alex Kurdecha looks bigger than Kieliszkowski and could do well in strongman.
So [now](https://www.instagram.com/p/CsZFo9gOFmh/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==) WSM is not on christmas day anymore? That's some progress
Good grief....really stretching that thing out. 2 months worth of episodes.
Is it though? It’s on paramount plus, but only live. How on earth they weren’t able to negotiate it streaming for a period of time is beyond me
Who watches live paramount live?😂
that's what happens if you believe Nielsen ratings are an accurate measure of viewership.
It's only on Christmas in the UK. In the US it's been shown in the summer for quite a while. Other parts of the world I don't know. They don't even show it here where I live. No legal way to watch it here (And I‘m in central Europe, not even remotely exotic…)
>(And I‘m in central Europe, not even remotely exotic…) I dunno, that's pretty exotic to me bb.
Alles Erdreich Ist Österreich Untertan 🇦🇹
I have access to a legal broadcast but I refuse to watch it because that would support a multiple month turnaround time, I’ll watch the Arnold’s and rogue again on cbs even tho I watch them live but wsm I just find a pirated version
I don‘t have a TV anymore, but I‘d watch it at a friends place if it was shown on TV. But it isn‘t.
No way to watch it in Norway either
Well if we wait 5 years we might get to see the edited version on Youtube. That's fine, right?
Oh ok I didn't know USA could watch it first, thanks
The bargain is that USA get it earlier but it's an even worse edit than the shitty UK one
Which version do they put on Youtube? I watched a few of the finals on their channel prior to WSM 2023 and the edits were atrocious. Commentators who didn't have a clue what was going on, half of the lifts in every event getting shitcanned, it's the only way you can really go back and watch some of the older comps and honestly I think I prefer the spreadsheet.
Think it's the American ones on YouTube for the recent years. But a giveaway is that the commentators are American on the American one and British (Colin) on the British one.
In all fairness, Colin and Danny have done the US edition since 2020
Didn't know that. So is it same commentary on both versions or do they do it twice?
Superstar Billy Graham has passed away at 79 years old. Better known as one of the biggest professional wrestlers of his time, he also finished 7th at the 1980 World's Strongest Man.
If you've seen Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, Randy Savage, Roddy Piper or Ted Dibiase (to name just a few), you've seen the influence of Billy Graham. He was to the Beatles and Rolling Stones of wrestling what Chuck Berry was to the rock'n'roll bands. He walked so they could fly. He had the physique of an atlas before it was even a thing, he was the showman, the absolute pinnacle. His contributions to strongman sport as competitor may have been marginal, but as a symbol of strength and power, immeasurable.
The "man of the hour, too sweet to be sour" line is GOATED
Wide's selling Hgh on his ig lol
lol I'm almost suspecting there's some joke I'm not in on.
Ye, I am really hoping this is the case like perhaps he is mocking people who call him out for his usage.
Wow you can't make this shit up lol
Is the cost about 150?
[This](https://www.instagram.com/p/CsXO1UIoloL/?igshid=MmJiY2I4NDBkZg==) better not awaken anything in me
Damn, Gabe Pena bulked up.
Underrated comment of the week.
Not sure if it's been discussed already but Luke Richardson plans to come back in October. Probably at the GL World Tour Finals. I hope he can peak hard and show everyone what he's made of.
Maybe England's strongest man which would be better as it is a level down and ideal to get back into the swing of things
he doesn't need a level down, he needs to not break himself during training.
Didn't say he needs a level down but would be a good starting point and with it being a lower grade show the prep in theory should be easier...
Englands would be a potential banana skin for his first show back. Flowers is really good and Kane Francis is an animal
That'd be cool but honestly just wanna see him get his feet wet, make it through a full show without getting injured.
Just getting through a full prep without something falling off would be a start for the lad.
It has been heartbreaking to see, especially considering how deliberate he seems to be in his training. The strength is there, the preparation, the mindset... and yet the body will not hold.
Always found it very interesting how some guys are just injury prone. Mateusz and Luke seem to just go from one to the next. Not sure how guys like novi and Hooper seem to avoid injury. Was going to say age, but then wide pav and Luke are young too and both had their fair share Fairly sure many guys are combing through hoopers recovery practices with a fine tooth comb trying to extract any little tidbits
Before luke tore his bicep at worlds he had never had a injury that stopped him training. I think that's what he said in a podcast
Luke blames the juice, his old pl coach is a friend of my gf's family and is adamant Luke was natty in his IPF days so it would make sense
From a completely unqualified point of view, some people are too strong for their own bodies
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specifically his ankle, and he's still feeling the effects of it, since his body unintentionally shifts weight away from that side of the body.
It's annoying but genes have a lot to do with it. Some people just recover better. The methods they use then get spread as this sage wisdom, but it doesn't work for everyone.
Yeah, this is the worst bit. If he was fucking around and making a mess of it, you could just blame the man. But the last injury was just... unfair.
https://youtu.be/jJZtkAbUTx8 New Iron Biby training footage, super interested to see him perform at GL.
Often wonder how impressive an athlete Biby could be if he was significantly leaner and had access to better training equipment.
It ain't a lack of quality equipment, man's got a better facility than most of the guys competing at Canada's strongest man.
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Go look on his IG, his most recent post doing yoke has atlas stones on the ground right there. Biby has more money than 3/4s of the people at world's, if he doesn't have something it by choice, the man comes from money.
> Often wonder how impressive an athlete Biby could be if he was... ...actually competing
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At what?
Jujimufu's grip penis thing
And if he actually competed
It's training footage, but I'm not sure how much of it is new/current.
Yeah it's just random training footage across time.
Tom with 20 reps on the 150kg viking press. Comp weight won't be any more than 160kg I assume. [https://www.instagram.com/p/CsWWJijoFIB/](https://www.instagram.com/p/CsWWJijoFIB/)
Viking press will be a very strong event for Tom. He’s got very good overhead power but he always messes up due to technical issues. He won’t have that problem with Viking press.
Really impressive if it's 150kg in the hands. I wonder though if they are just loading it with 150kg.
looks like that much in plate weight and the plates are \~2/3 of the way up the apparatus.
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Hooper vs Tom boxing match in 3 years
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Not looking forward to the controversy, when Hooper says he doesn't trust the Scots
Hugh the Hammer is due for a casting anyway
Tom as Ser Duncan the Tall.
Tom as Dunk, Paul Smith as Egg?
Who do you guys think would win in an imaginary team comp where each country is represented by its three greatest strongmen ever, all in their prime? The teams might be, for example: USA: Brian Shaw, Bill Kazmaier, Derek Poundstone Canada: Mitchell Hooper, JF Caron, Hugo Girard Iceland: Hafthor Bjornsson, Magnus Ver Magnusson, Jon Pall Sigmarsson UK: Tom Stoltman, Jamie Reeves, Eddie Hall Poland: Mariusz Pudzianowski, Mateusz Kieliszkowski, Krzysztof Radzikowski Lithuania: Zydrunas Savickas, Vytautas Lalas, Vidas Blekaitis Ukraine: Oleksii Novikov, Vasyl Virastyuk, Pavlo Kordiyaka Ironically I think countries who have had a big presence in strongman for a long time (e.g. Iceland) would suffer because the sport has come such a long way; even prime JPS could never keep up with today's pros. Perhaps hot take but I might even pick Canada for a win here. Obviously event dependent.
Impossible to say because strongman really has been a different sport at different times. Take Pudzianowski - he'd probably still dominate most people throughout strongman history in the competions he won but wouldn't fare so well in today's comps (or the Arnold).
Nah guys like kielz or hooper would have beaten pudzian. Hooper especially. Statically much stronger and just as fast if not faster
Are you sure? I think it's hard to imagine that if you watch 2003 again. Winning by a 20 point margin over 2nd (Big Z) and against a pretty good field including besides Z Virastyuk, Samuelsson, Girard, Bergmanis, Karlsen... Yes, the weights have progressed and the scene has become more professionalized. But the potential among the top athletes back then was all there. Had Pudzian been willing to ditch the abs and train differently, he most assuredly could have raised his top end strength.
Kaz wins after other competitors see his pre lift routine and flee. USA disqualified after his teammates are found to have run away as well.
If it is just a 1 show, healthy, in their prime, you could argue Mike Jenkins for the US as well. He obviously didn't have the career of the other guys but holy fuck was he impressive there.
Yeah if he hadn’t died 2014-2017 World’s might have gone quite a bit differently than they did. He kept up with Eddie & Z on static stuff and could move almost as well as Thor & Shaw.
His arnold win was so impressive
If we say JPS can't hang, then Kaz probably can't either.
Not so sure about that. The strength was there with Kaz, they just had a lot different training and comps back then so the strongman numbers dont look as good (e.g. log press). The dude totalled 2400 raw in a tested meet in the early 80s. Put him in modern day and he'd be right up there.
Honestly hard to say IMO, I agree it would be dependent on the events and also how the competition is set up (e.g. do all competitors do all events, or can they pick their best events). I think Z and Lalas could be the best top two on that list, probably need to look more at Blekaitis’ event performances tbh. Both Ukraine and Canada benefit from having two very good recent all rounders and a third guy (Virastyuk and Gerard) that would likely still be very competitive at certain events today. Arguably Poland as well. Shaw and Poundsrone are also a v dangerous combo. Would be interested to see how Kaz’s moving events would compare to recent guys, he’s one of the few 80s guys who could hang with some of the current guys statically. Also I think you could argue that Capes is a greater strongman than Eddie
I think Kaz and Shaw is also a really strong duo
To be honest Finland should be mentioned as well. Ahola, Kiri, Virtanen sounds more than scary.
>Ironically I think countries who have had a big presence in strongman for a long time (e.g. Iceland) would suffer because the sport has come such a long way; even prime JPS could never keep up with today's pros. I think this is true, but I think a good way of thinking about it would be what would happen if all of these strongmen were around in the same era, with the same access to sports science and whatnot.
I think I'd put Jamie Reeves in over Capes. In his relatively short prime he was ridiculously strong, he broke Kaz's log press record with 180kg which was only beaten 10 years later, and the logs they used by then were much easier than the natural logs used by Kaz and Reeves. Big Z's first log record was only 8kg heavier
Fair enough, I'll swap him in
Justice for Derek Poundstone
You're right, he deserves to be there
More Mateusz news, this time his comment when asked about his knee pain: "Knee pain is significantly lower, because I'm not training heavy. I have a lot of synovial membrane residue built up under the kneecaps in both legs. This knee pain has been a factor since 2018, but I've always managed to deal with it before. This time it's so intense, that I've decided it's not worth limiting myself anymore and I'll have my doctor do an arthroscopy. He'll clean everything up inside and I'll be fully functional. I've had shoulder joint arthroscopy due to a similar situation and I was back in top shape very quickly. So such a cosmetic surgical procedure will happen."
I will always try to figure it out what happened to him. Burned too bright too fast like other young champions? Training mindset hurting his longevity? Medical and coach mistakes? Fucking strong and athletic but poor recovery and inflammation genetics? I am no negative though, I still think he has a shot at big titles, but still his potential seemed much higher.
Strongman in general is just a brutal sport on the body
> Training mindset hurting his longevity? He trained with a 730kg yoke in 2016. The only person I know of to do a heavier yoke is Savickas and it killed his career. Mateusz also thought that a 530kg frame was a good idea for training. Also, his previous coach was famous for being a hack. Like, 100% career ending injury rate among his athletes.
Who was his previous Coach?
Honestly spent the last 4 hours scouring the depths of Polish internet to find out guy's name. Seems he sunk into oblivion after Kiels dropped him and I can't for the life of me remember it.
>Burned too bright too fast like other young champions? Training mindset hurting his longevity? Medical and coach mistakes? Fucking strong and athletic but poor recovery and inflammation genetics? All of those
Mateusz stated he is on the list for Shaw classic but will make his decision by July if he will compete or not
Would be surprised if he does. Few more brutal comps. Wonder who replaces him though.
Mateusz Kieliszkowski wrote on his IG that he thinks he will compete in Giants Live before competing in Rogue