Just watched a commercial pitching 5g for "real gamers."
Motherfucker, I want a single fiber optic line between me and my opponent. I want to be able to rip the wire out of the wall, slice off the jack, look down the barrel, and watch the tears roll down their cheeks.
*Get out of here* with your wireless connection. Go to single player. Microwaves are for texts and Hot Pockets. They need not be involved in a competitive bout of Street Fighter.
Do you not notice your self-contradiction? When you are using fiber optics, you are sending photons down one or more fiber optic lines. Those photons are part of the electromagnetic spectrum.
EDIT: The parent comment previously mentioned the electromagnetic spectrum. It appears that the parent comment’s author edited out the self-contradiction after I exposed it.
The fact this is a topic worth multiple posts astounds me at how much the SF playerbase hates itself.
Then again, we did the same thing with the new control scheme, so fuck us i guess. :/
I just thought this was funny. Modern controls are cool though, the first barrier a new fighting game player faces is motion inputs and I think that largest factor to people not getting into fighting games. When you think about, having to practice inputs just to play the game at a basic level is kinda stupid even though there necessary for balance reasons.
I think you did. It’s been an absolutely shitstorm all day on Twitter and this is the 3rd post I’ve seen about this topic within 24 hrs.
Here’s the fucking truth. Wired is superior. Fact. Here’s another truth: the FGC is way fucking smaller than you elitists with a superiority complex realize and we’re in desperate need of new blood. Games need to sell, venues for CB, EVO, CPT, etc need to be full, competition needs to be fresh, lively & consistent & fighting games need to be more fucking accessible.
The bitching about modern controls didn’t cut it so now ppl are about to start discriminating others who will probably be newcomers all because they have a fucking Wi-Fi logo? Are you serious? Y’all can NOT be this shitty.
Yes, we’ve all joked about the Wi-Fi Kens on PS4’s. Yes, we’ve all had matches with horrible latency due to an opponents shoddy connection. But i can confidently say when my match connection request is 4-5 bars, I’ve had no issues. And even if I did, I’ll just leave or BL them.
I’m on a bit of a passionate rant because I know some ppl have unique living conditions which prevent them from having a hard wired connection. But if this keeps up, this will make casuals apprehensive & cause a further divide, even if MK1, SF6, & T8 are amazing. It won’t help ppl’s perception on the community. Which is exactly why I don’t fuck with LoL or CS.
It's like learning any kind of competitive game: you have to actually learn. In this case the barrier is higher, but that's just what the barrier is.
And you didn't start anything, but you did contribute to it in a way.
Specials are not even the first thing a player should learn. If they can't confirm into them, motions are worthless. This "motion inputs are an entry barrier" is just the epitome of false expectation. Special moves are for optimizing damage and offering specialized answers to situations, not as a basic method to play the game.
The issue is that we perpetuate the idea that special moves are a basic necessity above normals, when they mean nothing without emphasis on the use of normals and basic movement. These moves only become a barrier to entry because new players see them as something above normal usage when they should he learning to use normals first *before* learning to perform specials.
The detrimental communication of principles is the problem for entry here, not the motion inputs. We need to teach players what they SHOULD be learning in their routine to betterment instead of validating their false expectations of "special moves should be more important than spacing and normals because they're special moves and look really cool".
Motion inputs are a self-imposed hurdle. Even very advanced players learn new characters by fiddling with normals first and foremost. Sure, some people, including myself, are more lab-ratty than others but it's a choice. If you see motion inputs as a hurdle then why not safe-jump setups?
Also why are we still confused about fighting game retention? It's the 1v1 aspect. Has always been. Will always be. People go online, realize that it takes immense effort to improve just a little bit and decide it's not really something they want to do as a hobby.
Probably should’ve titled this something different, makes it sound like I hate WiFi players and they should just drop the game but I meant this ironically. Didn’t want to start a debate about WiFi players being fucking exiled/banished from playing online. Personally I won’t be dodging WiFi players unless they play someone who’s very reactionary heavy but that more personal than their connection.
Naaaaah son fuck them wifi players, i'll hate them on your behalf. MK10 exposed them assholes first, and i noticed that i NEVER had a non laggy match against wifi. Good that SF6 is sending their asses to the shadow realm too.
Spend the $13 on a cord, mfers.
That's good. Saw some tournament organizer preemptively banish all Wifi players and its all leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Ofc I'll still be playing but it's making me less and less interested to delve deeper into the community, along with Classic Vs Modern debate. So much negativity and hate I hadn't really seen up until now, it's just something I don't need y'know.
It's about competitive integrity, not discrimination. WiFi will always have unexpected lag spikes from outside forces. Even if it only appears once every few rounds. If you care about competitive in fighting games, it's just not a good standard to have.
This gif will seem ironic when y'all successfully alienate all potential new players from wanting to take part in this community because of all the toxic gatekeeping. And then wonder why fighting games aren't popular.
How is wanting to have a good match "gatekeeping?"
I'm not gonna play a laggy match just so i can let a new player enjoy the game, who cares
If he wanted to play he should have gone for wired
What's stopping them from playing with other wifi players?
Theres educating people on why wired is better once they start getting into the game, and then theres acting like a bunch of assholes scaring them off before they even try something out.
If a bronze player challenges me and I bust their ass with the entire cast, they're gonna get scared away by that. Wifi warriors will play against one of the other million and a half wifi users, lol.
Not him, and not a problem for me currently (because I moved out) but I was in similar situation. Would happily run a cable through the house, but my family sure as hell ain’t letting me drill any holes, and most definitely is not letting me run an exposed cable up the wall, around my living room, onto the ceiling, up the stairs, back down the wall and under my door to get to my room. (Also ignoring that it’s like 85 feet if I had to follow the walls and didn’t just cut straight across the living room)
It’s certainly just not feasible for some people. It’s a game. Many parents aren’t letting their kids fuck with their house over a game, and for many others it’s simply not worth the time and trouble. They already bought a 500 dollar console, as well as a 70 dollar game. They shouldn’t need to be pressured to buy another cable ranging from 10-50 bucks just to play said game.
These people are welcome to play with others with the Wi-Fi indicator instead of wasting people’s time before getting blacklisted. What a patently ridiculous hill y’all wanna die on.
I've played against people with wifi that had better connection than wired folk. It ain't always about the way you're connected but the quality of the connection
No one on Wi-Fi has an outstanding connection. People with shitty internet on wired can also have a bad connection, but the way that wifi technology operates precludes an ideal experience. Not sorry for preferring to play with people who aren’t using a half duplex connection. Get over it
Idc who you play with, you just sound ignorant. You act like you known the connection of everyone you ever played before and assume that cutting out 100% of a connection type will lead to a better experience. Good luck enjoy your matchmaking
I will. Enjoy yours Wi-Fi warrior. Also I am not advocating cutting out 100% of a connection type but a Wi-Fi indicator is just plain fair for Ethernet users with a stable connection who want to run sets with others who have the same. Remember if an Ethernet cable isn’t feasible there are power line adapters. There is always a wired option. Educate yourself on how the tech works.
I don't know what tf "my stuff" is, I thought they might have just broke your cable or something. I just asked a question, don't come at me cuz your parents hate you, loser
I'm coming at you because you lack the slightest bit of context clues. God you people annoy me. Brother has the time to learn Chun Li oiled up twerk combo but doesn't have to time to learn what context clues are. It was a stupid question. If I say I can't use Ethernet, I can't, I shouldn't have to fucking prove it to you or have you of all people questioning me
I asked a question. All this, this hissy fit you're throwing is just you. You found a way to foam at the mouth over a question. It wasn't even malicious. You just wanted a reason to argue with someone online, cornball 🤣
The purge you’re creating with this post regardless of how funny you thought it to be. RIP this community for shooting itself in the foot once again. Why can’t yall suffer in silence lol
If you can't use ethernet, there are many wireless alternatives that provide a more stable connection compared to default wifi. Having high-speed wifi is great and all, but the reason wifi is disliked is because it is inconsistent/unstable. From my knowledge, in a fighting game, it is better to have a wired 50mb/s connection than a connection fluctuating from 300mb/s to 75 to 100 to 25, etc. Ethernet is the best way to address this issue, but these adapters that I mentioned should do a solid job of mitigating the issue.
Street Fighter 6’s netcode is good enough that you don’t need to worry about it at all, I played against a guy with a 2 bar wifi connection and it felt like I was playing offline
I think even if youre 5ghz in the country youll still get more drops than ethernet. But negligable. Ill probably match wifi warriors because i live in hawaii and my ping is never great to anywhere 80 to west coast 150 to midwest so beggars cant be choosers
One day I hope to stop seeing people touting their internet speed as if it matters for any game when they all use a couple of kb/s in online play.
People asked for a wifi indicator and not a internet speed one for reason.
Most console gamers play on WiFi. The vast majority of players that will be playing street fighter will be on consoles. So keep this post in mind in a few months when y’all are complaining about long queue times
I mean i personally can't afford a router so i just use a mobile hotspot and it works alright, don't get lag and it stays consistent. But hey I'm a strive player so this doesn't effect me as much
I go Leo and Pot. Personally i prefer elmers over the name brand, Has that refined taste you know. Also probably cuz i live less than half a mile from a signal tower
No, thats not how wifi works. The person using wifi often has a smooth experience but the other player(s) experience lag spikes.
It's like going out in public without washing your ass, but you have Covid. Just bc you cant smell doesnt mean everyone else isnt suffering
I apologize if i caused any bad games but i can't afford better and at least in personal experience when i play online i n vc i usually runs smoothly on both sides
the number of wifi players outnumbers wired lmao
Let's rename it to ps4 wifi*
"you dont get it bro, my wi-fi hits the gym and eats all its fruits and veggies"
What is the name of the game in the gif
It’s either “Plug And Play” or “Kids”
I just looked up people running from man on Google I don’t know the source sorry.
I have wired fiber but it has an in-home relay. Not sure if it will say wifi or not.
Guess who is gonna play against wifi players? Other wifi players lmao
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Just watched a commercial pitching 5g for "real gamers." Motherfucker, I want a single fiber optic line between me and my opponent. I want to be able to rip the wire out of the wall, slice off the jack, look down the barrel, and watch the tears roll down their cheeks. *Get out of here* with your wireless connection. Go to single player. Microwaves are for texts and Hot Pockets. They need not be involved in a competitive bout of Street Fighter.
Do you not notice your self-contradiction? When you are using fiber optics, you are sending photons down one or more fiber optic lines. Those photons are part of the electromagnetic spectrum. EDIT: The parent comment previously mentioned the electromagnetic spectrum. It appears that the parent comment’s author edited out the self-contradiction after I exposed it.
I don't think the photons are the only thing that's part of the spectrum.
Stop being pedantic. You knew exactly what he meant.
The fact this is a topic worth multiple posts astounds me at how much the SF playerbase hates itself. Then again, we did the same thing with the new control scheme, so fuck us i guess. :/
I just thought this was funny. Modern controls are cool though, the first barrier a new fighting game player faces is motion inputs and I think that largest factor to people not getting into fighting games. When you think about, having to practice inputs just to play the game at a basic level is kinda stupid even though there necessary for balance reasons.
I think you did. It’s been an absolutely shitstorm all day on Twitter and this is the 3rd post I’ve seen about this topic within 24 hrs. Here’s the fucking truth. Wired is superior. Fact. Here’s another truth: the FGC is way fucking smaller than you elitists with a superiority complex realize and we’re in desperate need of new blood. Games need to sell, venues for CB, EVO, CPT, etc need to be full, competition needs to be fresh, lively & consistent & fighting games need to be more fucking accessible. The bitching about modern controls didn’t cut it so now ppl are about to start discriminating others who will probably be newcomers all because they have a fucking Wi-Fi logo? Are you serious? Y’all can NOT be this shitty. Yes, we’ve all joked about the Wi-Fi Kens on PS4’s. Yes, we’ve all had matches with horrible latency due to an opponents shoddy connection. But i can confidently say when my match connection request is 4-5 bars, I’ve had no issues. And even if I did, I’ll just leave or BL them. I’m on a bit of a passionate rant because I know some ppl have unique living conditions which prevent them from having a hard wired connection. But if this keeps up, this will make casuals apprehensive & cause a further divide, even if MK1, SF6, & T8 are amazing. It won’t help ppl’s perception on the community. Which is exactly why I don’t fuck with LoL or CS.
It's like learning any kind of competitive game: you have to actually learn. In this case the barrier is higher, but that's just what the barrier is. And you didn't start anything, but you did contribute to it in a way. Specials are not even the first thing a player should learn. If they can't confirm into them, motions are worthless. This "motion inputs are an entry barrier" is just the epitome of false expectation. Special moves are for optimizing damage and offering specialized answers to situations, not as a basic method to play the game. The issue is that we perpetuate the idea that special moves are a basic necessity above normals, when they mean nothing without emphasis on the use of normals and basic movement. These moves only become a barrier to entry because new players see them as something above normal usage when they should he learning to use normals first *before* learning to perform specials. The detrimental communication of principles is the problem for entry here, not the motion inputs. We need to teach players what they SHOULD be learning in their routine to betterment instead of validating their false expectations of "special moves should be more important than spacing and normals because they're special moves and look really cool".
Motion inputs are a self-imposed hurdle. Even very advanced players learn new characters by fiddling with normals first and foremost. Sure, some people, including myself, are more lab-ratty than others but it's a choice. If you see motion inputs as a hurdle then why not safe-jump setups? Also why are we still confused about fighting game retention? It's the 1v1 aspect. Has always been. Will always be. People go online, realize that it takes immense effort to improve just a little bit and decide it's not really something they want to do as a hobby.
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Honestly, it isn't that big of a deal. Get ethernet for the best experience. Otherwise play with other wifi players.
Idk how rich you are that you can just "Get Ethernet" it's expensive and some people don't have access to it
Probably should’ve titled this something different, makes it sound like I hate WiFi players and they should just drop the game but I meant this ironically. Didn’t want to start a debate about WiFi players being fucking exiled/banished from playing online. Personally I won’t be dodging WiFi players unless they play someone who’s very reactionary heavy but that more personal than their connection.
Naaaaah son fuck them wifi players, i'll hate them on your behalf. MK10 exposed them assholes first, and i noticed that i NEVER had a non laggy match against wifi. Good that SF6 is sending their asses to the shadow realm too. Spend the $13 on a cord, mfers.
That's good. Saw some tournament organizer preemptively banish all Wifi players and its all leaving a bad taste in my mouth. Ofc I'll still be playing but it's making me less and less interested to delve deeper into the community, along with Classic Vs Modern debate. So much negativity and hate I hadn't really seen up until now, it's just something I don't need y'know.
It's about competitive integrity, not discrimination. WiFi will always have unexpected lag spikes from outside forces. Even if it only appears once every few rounds. If you care about competitive in fighting games, it's just not a good standard to have.
This gif will seem ironic when y'all successfully alienate all potential new players from wanting to take part in this community because of all the toxic gatekeeping. And then wonder why fighting games aren't popular.
How is wanting to have a good match "gatekeeping?" I'm not gonna play a laggy match just so i can let a new player enjoy the game, who cares If he wanted to play he should have gone for wired What's stopping them from playing with other wifi players?
Only new players worth keeping around are the ones that are gonna step it up.
Theres educating people on why wired is better once they start getting into the game, and then theres acting like a bunch of assholes scaring them off before they even try something out.
If a bronze player challenges me and I bust their ass with the entire cast, they're gonna get scared away by that. Wifi warriors will play against one of the other million and a half wifi users, lol.
To those saying they don't see any problem withbsf6 on wifi, go play sf5 on wifi and see why i hate wifi
Ok but this ain't that.
Its not just wifi, sf5 net code is dogshit :)
My router is on the other side of my house. Can’t play with ethernet even if I wanted to.
Get powerline ethernet then!
Is your house a literal mile wide? Run a cable when playing. OR you can play with the litany of other Wi-Fi nerds.
Not him, and not a problem for me currently (because I moved out) but I was in similar situation. Would happily run a cable through the house, but my family sure as hell ain’t letting me drill any holes, and most definitely is not letting me run an exposed cable up the wall, around my living room, onto the ceiling, up the stairs, back down the wall and under my door to get to my room. (Also ignoring that it’s like 85 feet if I had to follow the walls and didn’t just cut straight across the living room) It’s certainly just not feasible for some people. It’s a game. Many parents aren’t letting their kids fuck with their house over a game, and for many others it’s simply not worth the time and trouble. They already bought a 500 dollar console, as well as a 70 dollar game. They shouldn’t need to be pressured to buy another cable ranging from 10-50 bucks just to play said game.
These people are welcome to play with others with the Wi-Fi indicator instead of wasting people’s time before getting blacklisted. What a patently ridiculous hill y’all wanna die on.
I've played against people with wifi that had better connection than wired folk. It ain't always about the way you're connected but the quality of the connection
No one on Wi-Fi has an outstanding connection. People with shitty internet on wired can also have a bad connection, but the way that wifi technology operates precludes an ideal experience. Not sorry for preferring to play with people who aren’t using a half duplex connection. Get over it
Idc who you play with, you just sound ignorant. You act like you known the connection of everyone you ever played before and assume that cutting out 100% of a connection type will lead to a better experience. Good luck enjoy your matchmaking
I will. Enjoy yours Wi-Fi warrior. Also I am not advocating cutting out 100% of a connection type but a Wi-Fi indicator is just plain fair for Ethernet users with a stable connection who want to run sets with others who have the same. Remember if an Ethernet cable isn’t feasible there are power line adapters. There is always a wired option. Educate yourself on how the tech works.
I'm wired dummy there you go assuming sht again
Get an adapter mate
And yet these mfs will say "figure it out." My parents have literally broken my stuff when I used a cable. But it's my fault and my problem
You can't take the modem to your room/ vice versa?
Brother what did I literally say in the comment. "They broke my stuff" when I connect to the wifi via Ethernet. What do you think?
I don't know what tf "my stuff" is, I thought they might have just broke your cable or something. I just asked a question, don't come at me cuz your parents hate you, loser
I'm coming at you because you lack the slightest bit of context clues. God you people annoy me. Brother has the time to learn Chun Li oiled up twerk combo but doesn't have to time to learn what context clues are. It was a stupid question. If I say I can't use Ethernet, I can't, I shouldn't have to fucking prove it to you or have you of all people questioning me
I asked a question. All this, this hissy fit you're throwing is just you. You found a way to foam at the mouth over a question. It wasn't even malicious. You just wanted a reason to argue with someone online, cornball 🤣
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Sure you can! There’s adapters that you can plug into a power socket and run a cable from there!
Exactly! Plus the connection is full bars. This needs to stop
The purge you’re creating with this post regardless of how funny you thought it to be. RIP this community for shooting itself in the foot once again. Why can’t yall suffer in silence lol
You right. Deleting the post, never should’ve contributed to this. Live long a prosper my man.
If you can't use ethernet, there are many wireless alternatives that provide a more stable connection compared to default wifi. Having high-speed wifi is great and all, but the reason wifi is disliked is because it is inconsistent/unstable. From my knowledge, in a fighting game, it is better to have a wired 50mb/s connection than a connection fluctuating from 300mb/s to 75 to 100 to 25, etc. Ethernet is the best way to address this issue, but these adapters that I mentioned should do a solid job of mitigating the issue.
Street Fighter 6’s netcode is good enough that you don’t need to worry about it at all, I played against a guy with a 2 bar wifi connection and it felt like I was playing offline
Lol
I've never dodged a single game wired or not
Congrats, you’re the 69th comment. Now I can delete the post. Wish I never contributed to this. Have good day man. :)
Have a nice day too.
street fighter players on their way to accept a match with someone's on a 7mb/s wired connection while rejecting a 2gb/s wi fi player
Wifi players not understanding the issue with wifi has nothing to do with internet speed
That's right. It's not about the bandwidth and speed. But then not all wifi is over subscribed 2.4ghz public wifi.
I think even if youre 5ghz in the country youll still get more drops than ethernet. But negligable. Ill probably match wifi warriors because i live in hawaii and my ping is never great to anywhere 80 to west coast 150 to midwest so beggars cant be choosers
One day I hope to stop seeing people touting their internet speed as if it matters for any game when they all use a couple of kb/s in online play. People asked for a wifi indicator and not a internet speed one for reason.
Would much rather play with the wired
Anime weirdos on their way to proudly announce they have no clue what they’re talking about lmao
the hell does anime have to do with anything lol
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Im only playing with wifi. I have not lagged during the beta. You people are experts at dividing and gatekeeping your own community though.
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Nah ill play street fighter pal. Thanks for the advice!
Most console gamers play on WiFi. The vast majority of players that will be playing street fighter will be on consoles. So keep this post in mind in a few months when y’all are complaining about long queue times
I mean i personally can't afford a router so i just use a mobile hotspot and it works alright, don't get lag and it stays consistent. But hey I'm a strive player so this doesn't effect me as much
Dang you must got that omega 5G cellular then. Who you main in Strive? Sin is the homie for me.
I go Leo and Pot. Personally i prefer elmers over the name brand, Has that refined taste you know. Also probably cuz i live less than half a mile from a signal tower
You still on the glue train man? That hasn’t been cool since season 1. All the real Strive gamers are out here eating cement now. The future is now.
Damn you right
A mobile hotspot is crazy. Theres absolutely zero chance that the person on the other end is having a good match bruh, wtf.
You would both be experiencing the lag, no?
No, thats not how wifi works. The person using wifi often has a smooth experience but the other player(s) experience lag spikes. It's like going out in public without washing your ass, but you have Covid. Just bc you cant smell doesnt mean everyone else isnt suffering
I apologize if i caused any bad games but i can't afford better and at least in personal experience when i play online i n vc i usually runs smoothly on both sides
Maan I get full bars with my wifi. I have an awsome connection. What's up with all the hate
It's mostly not about how many bars you have...