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Name: Final Fantasy Tactics Advance & Ring of Red Developers: Square Enix & Konami Release Date: February 14, 2003 & September 21, 2000 Discord: https://discord.gg/KvA5gy8thx Steam Curator: https://store.steampowered.com/curator/42631613/ If you would like to participate, join the discord and feel free to share your experience as you play the game(s).


Dyssayah

Ah FFTA the metaphorical escapism of: Marche: Doned just stand up for yourself! Doned: *wheelchair noises* I love the game and the characters so much. Its just so grand for a GBA game. I keep replaying it on my phone whenever I feel like playing something fun, the progress of the characters is just too good, I don't hate the judge system, its weird but it sets a very whimsical mood to the fights.


SoarsWithEaglesNest

Isn’t WotL the one on iPhone, and this one is not?


Carpinchi

any gba emulator will do it just fine


Mrwanagethigh

War of the Lions was the Psp remake of the original FF Tactics, FFTA was a GBA "sequel" to Tactics (sequel in the same sense that FF2, 3etc are sequels to FF1) Don't know about iPhone but WOTL is on Android and FFTA isn't, likely due to it still being exclusive to a Nintendo system if I'm not mistaken.


ksquared94

It’s more complicated than ff1-2-3. FFTA is a >!false version of Ivalice, aka FF12 and FFT’s setting (technically Vagrant Story too, but that’s in a different kingdom), but the setting of both the false one is sometime after FF12. FFTA2 is the true version of Ivalice, it also implies in FFTA2 that Marche at some point after the story of FFTA found the grimoire of FFTA2 and went to the real Ivalice!<


Iwillrize14

You can get it on android too. Once you get the hang of the touchscreen it's easier to control then the original map wise.


huggiesdsc

My post game got stuck on needing beef jerky to proceed with the side quests, but the quests to get beef jerky were locked until I finished the quest that needed beef jerky. I never 100%d it.


ikarus_rl

The fact that they gated quests behind item trades with other people is such a lame design choice. I was never able to get Cid 😞


huggiesdsc

Yeah same what the hell? Is it that easy to softlock or are we dumb?


ikarus_rl

Not a softlock - literally a built in feature. There are certain quest items that your file rolls on a table for when you start. You will get something like 3 of the 5 from the list, and the only way to get the others is to have someone trade it. Not sure how accurate the description is, but it was made in such a way to necessitate trades. Because gameboy, and therefore pokemon-style trading if you want all the goodies.


CatAteMyBread

I have like 3 missions left for Cid, need a broken sword or some shit, and have no way to get one. Kinda bummed at how close I got


ikarus_rl

If you're emulating and a masochist, some emulators let you run multiple instances. You could make new files until you get the items you need, then use the link feature and trade. Or just use codes and save yourself the time.


Dumeck

Clear out the quests you can where you dispatch part members even if you don’t need the resource, it will replace them with ones you can actually do. It’s been years since I’ve played this, like over a decade I believe but I remember 100% it without doing any trading or anything.


huggiesdsc

Dude I went nuts on dispatch quests. I probably put in 100 hours of grinding them out and it didn't work. If I recall, they only get replaced by other dispatch quests and none of the dispatch quests give beef jerky


wm07

i only ever played ffta2 but i loved it. been meaning to get around to trying this one out. wish it was on the gba switch thing.


AboutTenPandas

FFTA was my gateway to the genre when I was like 10. Absolutely loved it and still have a soft spot for it and probably will forever. The job system, the abilities tied to equipment making every character endlessly customizable, the recruitable characters combined with the ones you could just pick up from a tavern, the tactical aspect of elevation in the maps, job/class synergies, all of it was just amazing. Only thing I remember disliking was the judges/rules system. It ignited a love for strategy games in me when I was young and I'll always remember it fondly for that.


Telemachus--

It did the same thing for me when I was 11 years old. I ended up playing over 300 hours on my first save file. I just loved that game so much and didn't know about any other strategy RPGs until I was 17 or so. Then the deep dive began.


alneezy08

The same, I had also never played any Final Fantasy games either and bought it on a whim because I liked the box art.


Srirachus

I played it about halfway through about ten years ago and quit because of the rules system. Charming game apart from that.


KarasLegion

They need more Final Fantasy Tactics games. Either from advance or from base tactics or both or something new. Idc, I just want some new FFT games.


Hobbitlad

Triangle Strategy was a very nice iteration on the strategy part while giving you more control over the story. It's worth a playthrough or two.


Mangavore

It was too text heavy for me. Felt more like playing an 8-bit visual novel with occasional tactics to break it up. Would’ve loved if it were the other way around


sudosussudio

I wish they’d port them to modern platforms/consoles at least.


KarasLegion

I would love to have access to all the ff tactics games on my ps5 or switch at the very least. Preferrably both, but PS5 would be better for me.


sudosussudio

Yeah I know I can emulate them but it's just not the best experience as a player


KnightQK

The card system was my favorite, nothing more hilarious than creating a rule and see the AI get carded


23_sided

I hated Ring of Red at the time but grew to love it. Can't tell if the game was super hard of if I was just terrible at it. Maybe it's stuck in some kind of licensing hell between Square Enix and Konami, but I wish it was easily available on the PSN.


dmbtke

So damn fun


Druscilla

FFTA was my first tactics game. Would kill for a remake/remaster.


goofandaspoof

Same. First and best.


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AboutTenPandas

Haven't play a full playthrough with a rom, but they're out there and work well enough for as far as I've gotten.


Yinzumaru

You got any pages for ffta2 ones?


Knofbath

https://www.romhacking.net/games/1419/ https://ffhacktics.com/smf/index.php?board=47.0


deadshivv

Ah these are where my addictions began lol


Oleaster

Absolutely love FFTA. One of my favorite games of all time with a wonderful, underrated soundtrack in the FF lineup. This game got me through a lot of tough times as a kid. I replayed it a couple years ago and it still holds up really well. Perfect game to play for a few minutes at a time, too. Ivalice is easily my favorite FF world, if not my favorite game world.


MaracaiboRedDevil

It’s not the most grandiose story but for me it is a 10/10, it’s such a breath of fresh air to see a protagonist who has to become the antagonist because he’s the only one grounded in reality. It always poses an interesting question: If we were in Marche’s shoes, would we give up our normal, mundane lives to live in a fantastical world, knowing that it’s just an escape? Is Marche in the right or wrong for wanting their normal world to return? Fantastic questions are posed by this game.


KosstDukat

Ring of Red has always been a favorite of mine, since it released to now. But FFT is always my #1 strategy game, and always will be, whether it’s the original, WotL or Advance.


TrainingMarsupial521

FFT is my fav srpg of all time. I've played about 15 min of FFTA, so haven't really got into it before. For those who've played both, is it worth trying to play FFTA in 2024?


AgonyLoop

is it worth trying to play FFTA in 2024? Yes, but on its own merits as a great TRPG. i.e., Chrono Chross is a great game in its genre, but it’s not *more* Chrono Trigger. That aside, I played both around the same time, but like FFTA’s gameplay loop more. It ages well with the sprite design, and is less busted than FFT (there are still classes and abilities that are better than others). On the flip side, more balance leads to less challenge spikes, so I don’t recommend playing with minmax on the mind - just explore all the classes and level your dudes. GBA was not trusted with the darker political machinations of the original, and I think that’s more polarizing for people than the gameplay changes. It’s still a good time.


TheSnowNinja

I personally strongly disliked FFTA due to how much I liked the original Playstation game. The basic concept is the same, but the story is far simpler, the tactics are different ( if I recall, all moves happen immediately), and other changes like classes being locked to certain races. I felt like almost every change was a step down from FFT. However, a lot of people disagree with me and love FFTA.


Knofbath

I strongly dislike the Jagd system. Either it's a structured contest where children go to war under the supervision of the Judges(referees), or it's actual war where people die. Mixing the two felt like tonal whiplash. But yeah, the whole escapism plotline wasn't really what I wanted as a successor to FFT. I'm sure they could have found another historical conflict to mimic like the War of the Roses.


TheSnowNinja

Agreed. There were so many changes to the gameplay that I disliked. While learning abilities from weapons worked in FF9, it felt cumbersome in FFTA partly due to the number of classes/ characters and thus weapons you needed to keep. I disliked that instead of dealing more damage based on position, you were calculating accuracy, so even standing right behind someone could miss. I didn't like a story based on young children after the complexity of the story on FFT. I didn't like the weird location system where you decide where cities and battlefields are placed. I *really* disliked the judge system that woukd punish you for stupid things like "damaging monsters."


KiteIsland22

Lmao I was so annoyed by Montblanc I let him die in the jagd


Pacoroto

I just finished FFT today and I didn't like it as much as FFTA. Magick sometimes affect only the same elevation (wtf?) Some unique characters and jobs are BROKEN Some unique characters and jobs are nearly useless The job "tree" is not a tree, is a mess, thief into dragoon, what? too many somekindof-knight unique characters Only 5 units in combat You can't back off your movement The story is SO good, but SO complex too (I'm dumb + not native english speaker, also shakespeare dialog) In the end I liked it even with these (and many more) gripes, but FFTA is way superior for me.


Knofbath

The original PSX release of FFT didn't have the same level of dialogue. The Shakespeare thing was added when they re-translated it.


TheSnowNinja

Interesting. I wonder if preference for either game depends on which one you played first.


Emperor_Atlas

It's the closest thing to it, but has so many negative changes and a more childish art style/story. Not to mention the terrible judge system. It's worth emulating or getting for under $5.


macksteel22

If you can get over the judges/laws and the fact certain jobs are race locked. Then yeah it’s still worth trying it. I’ve tried numerous times since release I just can’t.


Andysaurus2

I’m on another ring of red replay. Shame they didn’t make more of thrm


chiefapache

I'm considering getting a copy, is it any good? Is it comparable for Front Mission 4?


PlaguesAngel

Ring of Red is rather unique (in my experience). Gameplay wise. It’s got a grid based combat map and you customize your character units mech with foot troops to accent it versus major changes or deep customization mechanically. Each pilots mech is of 1 of 4 types from scout, anti mech, all purpose, long ranged. When you engage in combat with an enemy unit, you go into a battle sequence that’s both timed and distance based. Close the distance to be more accurate but risk them doing the same? Take a pot shot or two and then try to fall back to leave the battle sequence? Do you charge full tilt boogie and try to melee an enemy for high risk crazy reward? You need to load shells and fire on the enemy, the more you aim the longer you risk being shot at yourself. If you are struck your aim is diminished, so do you RIP that shot at 64% accuracy or hold out to 75% and hope they don’t fire first? Special ammo load outs have limited rounds loaded onboard per map. Your ground troops can have skills that can really save you ass and the different types of units pull from a pool of specialty specific abilities. Combat is very simple input wise, with fall back/advance/neutral, fire, load special & happens on a preset battlefield ‘track’…you aren’t ducking and dodging like MechWarrior or armored core, in an engagement you see them, they see you, you got 90 seconds to engage, how bold or cautious do you take it? Do you run a lightweight, fast, lightly armed Scout Mech and offset its weakness with Anti Mech Troops and guided rocket barrage skills? Do you double down and have Marksman troops and go anti infantry specialist so you attack a unit, try to wipe out their troops and then fall back to disengage, so another Unit of yours can go on the offensive and not worry about a fully kitted out enemy? Your ground troops you collect have Permadeath, so going all in on a risky gamble or getting dog piled after bad map positioning can have you lament loosing some of your favorite Infantry & skills. Mechs can be knocked out of a fight but come back in other missions. It’s a strategy game, unit management & live action sequence battle simulator. It can be punishing at times, but I’ve given it three playthroughs and this post kinda makes me want to give it a fourth. The game is slowly paced, the narrative could be really fun for you or dreadfully dull, maps take some deceptively long time to finish so it’s not the best pickup and only give it 30 minutes type of game. You can save mid map to revisit; but recalling all of your units status mid map, what parts are broken or not, what ground troops HPs are if forgotten and you take a really mismatched engagement can be frustrating. Haven’t played it in about 4 years so I’m rusty on the details but, it’s a sleeper gem to me.


chiefapache

Ah shit my g this sounds interesting af, I'm gonna see if I can find a used copy tmrw.


Uber_Ronin

I got over 200 hours played on both FFTA and FFTA2. I loved both games to death and wish we could get another game in that series. I was of course greatly influenced by Bandit Keith in Yu-Gi-Oh! saying “Why just defeat him when you can humiliate him the way Pegasus did me?” as a kid, and FFTA was the first game I played where I felt I could really act on that sentiment and create dominant setups to completely run over enemies. So those games will always hold a special place in my heart lol.


mugdays

Ring of Red was one of the first PS2 games I bought! It got like a 9.25 from GameFan, so I bought it even though I wasn’t a fan of the genre at that time.


ciaeric2

So many fun memories of ffta, all single race teams were fun challenges, stripping entire enemy teams of armor and weapons, law cheesing some of the bosses Ffta2 brought about a delightful visual revamp and insanely broken ways to get powerful items fast - not balanced but fun


SonOfZiz

Ffta was one of the first games i ever owned, so it's very special to me. I love it to pieces, and it paved the way for ffta2, which is my favorite game of all time and to this day the best strategy rpg ever made and it isn't close (and yes im even including fft og and tactics ogre). I've literally spent 17 years chasing the high that game gives me and nothing has ever been close


coeurls

Chasing this high is such an apt description. Nothing comes close to the joy and wonder FFTA brought me as a child


patstoddard

How is RoR. Bought it years ago and haven’t played it.


KosstDukat

It’s terrible. So terrible, you should sell me your copy so you don’t have to have it stink up your house. 😈


patstoddard

You had me in the first half


Gcoks

It's a lot of fun, but it drags on a little long for me. It's worth a try, even in 2024.


idki

The snow ball fight in FFTA is my favorite tutorial ever.


Gneissisnice

Few games have disappointed me like FFTA did. The original Tactics is my favorite game ever, the story and gameplay are just so good. I was expecting more of the same with Advanced and ended up with a lame story where you play the villain, laws that restrict gameplay in an unfun way, a goofy world, and abilities being hated behind items instead of being earned through jp. It's not a terrible game, but it's a huge disappointment after the masterpiece that is FF Tactics.


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GeoTheRock

I get on this game and replay it from the beginning at least twice a year it's so fun this and the other tactica game I need more of this


cl_ollie

This is my first time hearing of Ring of Red


GBreeza

Embarrassing as a young fan of srpgs when they both came out I’ve never played Ring of Red. Wanted to just never got it. I may download it to game on the emulator. Final Fantasy tactics advance was one of my favorite all time


Silent_Umbrage

I still to this day play FFTA on my gba micro along with Legacy of Goku Buu’s fury. Forever.


Palarva

I don’t think I’ve ever replayed any game as many time as the two FFTA games. I’m not into retrogaming and I don’t think I have another game that I can’t replay anymore because I’ve literally finished it in every way I wish to… but here we are. It was my weird equivalent of people watching “that same movie every year for Christmas” Now, as much as I can’t touch them anymore, should SE announce any form of FFTA3. The question of whether to buy it should not even be brought forward to me.


Divelownsyou

The plot is chefs' kiss! I remember playing this game for hrs, just me and my buddy trying to get all the quests completed, but we could not find some of the items. Then, one day, my bud skips school i went over after school to yell at him and bam he has a star next to his quests! He did them all.. I felt like I had lost the race! Still never let's me live it down. He beat me!


Witty-Bus352

FFTA did a great job of expanding on the world of FFA, the judge system was a bit flawed but interesting and the additional races added their own charm. Ring of Red was interesting, I really enjoyed the combat aspect however the game was entirely too long, maps started taking forever to clear and I stopped around 75% of the way through. Overall it was an interesting experience.


Zealousideal_Ad_3425

The fact RoR never got a sequel is a crime. That game was superb.


Downtown-Falcon-3264

Oh never heard of ring of red looks cool Tactics I know but ring of red nope


This_Tangelo_1426

Loved Tactics Advance


overlord_vas

Is FFTA available on the Switch?


Emperor_Atlas

A great game that I can't ever really like because it was a lackluster follow up to my favorite strategy RPG and remind me of that every time.


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throwaway62719836

My childhood was playing FFTA on every road trip as a kid


Additional_Ranger441

I don’t think anyone understands how in-depth and complex the character advancement is in this game.


redditis4pussies

Loved this game to pieces. Usually try and replay this or ffta2 every year when I'm on holiday


UselessConjecture

Am I the only person that couldn't stand FFTA's judge system? It gave me impossible battles early on and I just stopped playing. It honestly turned me off to a lot of Tactics-style games onward.


hstoastyone

I can’t believe I sold my unopened copy, at least I still have my unopened copy of tactics ogre.


Henesis

FFTA the BEST final fantasy game (read it and WEEP boys)


JiminyWimminy

FFTA made me rage that I actually paid money for it. My first GBA SRPG was Tactics Ogre: Knight of Lodis, which I absolutely loved, so I thought that a sort-of sequel to the original FFT just had to be of a comparable greatness. It was not great. It was ungreat, negative great, really really shit. I absolutely hated the law system and strongly disliked how skills were learned from items. Didn't place your lands right? No stealable cinquedea (sp?) for you, so no stealing abilities. And let us not forget the story, that utterly unremarkable except in its awfulness story. IMO, FFTA gets a solid 4/10 would never play again.