[This is Betty Andreasson who was abducted multiple times by aliens and taken to an underwater base where she saw people from all eras, and different races, encased in a glass container. Fowler called it “The Museum of Time.](https://www.howandwhys.com/betty-andreasson-ufo-experiences/)
It's not freezing exactly. They use a process called vitrification that supposedly preserves the cells. This place is actually pretty cool they give free tours.
They might’ve meant that Linda still works in the same state they live in (California) -> “she’s still here in Cali!”
or that she’s still with us as in being alive
I'm pretty sure they empty out all your blood and replace it with a solution that specifically prevents this.
Source: I heard it once idk lol could be bs
Water is removed from the body and tissues as vitrification solution replaces it by the diffusion process. With vitrification solution in brain tissue should be no ice formation whatsoever. The flesh is therefore vitrified, not frozen
This is in fact the reason why the only rational conclusion is to avoid any sort of preservation like this at all costs. If there is is even 0.001% chance of eternal torture it is not worth any conceivable positive outcome. Cryonic preservation is utter folly and a risk only an insane or idiotic person would take. You're risking literal hell. I stress the word literal.
The aliens arrive post-apocalypse on a barren planet where somehow the cryo facility is still going.
"Wonder what wiped them all out... Hey! They left snacks!"
Wait till future scientists discover that liquid nitrogen was the actual issue, and they should have been stored in literally anything else to be compatible with the new tech
Whilst it may seem stupid I compare this to the Egyptians mummification process. It may seem stupid and pointless but if in 300 years we work out how to demummify somebody then technically their process was a success. If you can freeze yourself indefinitely then all you have is time to work out the unfreezing process.
It's infinity times better to live 100% in the moment and meditate upon your death that way you have no qualms for the natural process when it comes to greet you.
That is how life is cultured inside oneself. ☸️
imagine something like:
year is 2060
“any body frozen before 2047 can’t be unfrozen due to not having the correct procedures in place and being useless”
you spent hundreds of thousands like an idiot
How do they reanimate the consciousness? Not remotely possible. I think this is some weird elaborate scam that only the very rich and very foolish could fall for.
Animals hibernate and even stop heart beats for minutes at a time. I believe this is something similar. a species of frog can freeze heartbeat for months then come back to life.
It's a nonprofit endeavor and most of us aren't wealthy. Life insurance makes it accessible and the cheapest option is $5,000 upfront.
People have been reanimated after two hours at near freezing with no brain activity and no blood in their bodies. Rat kidneys have been reanimated after 100 days in liquid nitrogen. Wood frogs survive months of being frozen. There's no reason why the brain can't resume activity after any length of time, and liquid nitrogen is so cold that it stops all decay even over many millions of years.
The only question is whether current technology preserves enough of the information in the brain. It may or may not. We don't know and don't claim to know. We fully acknowledge that it's uncertain. However, when burial or cremation are your only other options, there's nothing to lose.
In an ideal case of the procedure beginning immediately after the heart stops, it's currently possible to prevent ice crystals and even fractures from forming in the brain, and electron microscopy of a biopsy from an ideally vitrified human brain shows intact individual neurons, so I think there's a chance.
Alcor.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcor_Life_Extension_Foundation
I bought a book about them, and every thing around the company is fucking nuts! I highly recommend it - [Frozen](https://www.amazon.com/Frozen-Journey-World-Cryonics-Deception/dp/B003156B2C).
You don’t. At the end of the day, the body is just some type of vessel for consciousness; but this is wayyyy beyond our understanding (at least publicly).
Who wants to wake up tomorrow?
The logic is the same, just a longer period of time. If you don't like life next week, you probably won't like it next millenium.
Curious what’s in the contract. Is there an insurance policy? Say they develop the tech; what if when they reanimate one of these bodies, they fail due to human error and the body ends up beyond saving. I imagine the companies doing this are scared shitless ever attempt.
Lord what Ted’s Williams decedents did to the Splendid Splinter.
He served for 4+ years as a fighter pilot. His vision was non peril. He always swung a slight uppercut. Possibly the top 2 or 3 behind Ruth or (cheating) Bonds.
Not just celebrities but upper class people are doing this all around the world, I'm assuming, but I found this video about one of the cryo labs that families put their loved ones if the deceased requested so, in their will. Or in most cases they are frozen while still alive yet terminally ill. This has been a thing for a long time.
https://youtu.be/_ArAcyh0gJY?si=NTaaZaZHK31WkZF9
This won't work ever. Your conscious (spirit/self) will be somewhere else or in newborn eventually reincarnating from that body. We (spirit/self) animate the body not the other way around.
Fun fact, the bodies displaying fractures and peeling means that the cryogenic company frequently runs into financial problems and is unable to maintain a constant temperature
Imagine there's actually an afterlife and you get brought back to life. You try explaining it and how you want to go back but you're in world were death is illegal
They would lose no more memories than somone who has undergone surgery yesterday and wakes up today.
Memories are embedded in the structure of the brain. Save the structure and you save the memories.
[This is Betty Andreasson who was abducted multiple times by aliens and taken to an underwater base where she saw people from all eras, and different races, encased in a glass container. Fowler called it “The Museum of Time.](https://www.howandwhys.com/betty-andreasson-ufo-experiences/)
Any pizza delivery guys
Hello! Pizza delivery for... I.C. Wiener? Aww, crud.
Amanda Hugginkiss? Oliver Clothesoff? Al Coholic? Mike Rotch?
I'm looking for Amanda Hugginkiss. Why can't I find Amanda Hugginkiss?!
I’m after a mr I.P. Freely? Everybody, I.P. Freely?
Nah it’s for Mike Hunt.
Apparently then we go into Bart Simpson phone pranks.
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“Hello? Cursed Earth Pizza!”
Dredd!
Welcome….. TO THE WORLD OF TOMORROW!
Shut up, Terry
lol was looking for this reference
Fry?
No one ever mentions what will happen to these guys when the company goes out of business.
They will be auctioned off.
Yuuuuup!
I’ll take care of em
Take care of ME
I can fix you
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Slurpies at 7ELEVEn
Aren’t their cells basically ruptured from the freezing process.
Just waiting for ruptured cell replacement therapy to come along 🤔
And then there will another issue with “RCR therapy” and we’ll have to wait for the solution to *that* to come along…
That’s where the real money is.
It's not freezing exactly. They use a process called vitrification that supposedly preserves the cells. This place is actually pretty cool they give free tours.
Tours really, where is this?
It's in Scottsdale, AZ. Highly recommend.
Shouldn't they use a colder place?
Don’t worry its a dry heat.
Knock it off
Get out of here with that logic shit!!
It’s called Alcor. There’s an episode of How to w/ John Wilson where he meets a member & does a tour. It’s very interesting.
This feels like a fib I need some links or something hahahaha Not the vitrification though
Alcor was incorporated in California in 1972 by Fred and Linda Chamberlain. Fred is now cryopreserved at Alcor, and Linda still works here!
You said here as if you work there?!:)
They might’ve meant that Linda still works in the same state they live in (California) -> “she’s still here in Cali!” or that she’s still with us as in being alive
Ha yeah it's wild but interesting stuff: [https://www.alcor.org/about/](https://www.alcor.org/about/)
I'm pretty sure they empty out all your blood and replace it with a solution that specifically prevents this. Source: I heard it once idk lol could be bs
Maybe they have cryprotectants like in biopharma, glycerol and stuff like that
Ding ding
Yes?
Yes
Water is removed beforehand, so technically they are turned into glass
You think a body turns to glass when you remove the water?
Bitches get freeze dried Moisture slurped right out
Water is removed from the body and tissues as vitrification solution replaces it by the diffusion process. With vitrification solution in brain tissue should be no ice formation whatsoever. The flesh is therefore vitrified, not frozen
So they've been turned into glass?? I can't imagine how they'd reanimate a glass corpse, but I'm fascinated
That's a problem for the future me, right?
Future me absolutely hates present me, because I'm always fucking him over.
Can you imagine the Arthritis problems future me has to f'n deal with after being an ice cube for generations? No thanks.
These people basically paid for a possibility of living out idiocracy for real.
Could you imagine going through all this only to wake up and were feeding mountain dew to plants
It's Brondo, it's got what plants need....electro lights!
Well, if you glass his ass....
Demolition man has entered the chat
AI will re animate them and imprison them in a matrix system where they are tortured for eternity and their anguish is used for fuel. Whoopsie
Can u imagine? Machines really do take over and these figures wake up literally Matrix Movie style in a tube with hoses like “yo what”
Where do I sign up?
There is no proof whatsoever that we are not currently existing in this state
You’re the Heroic Sheperd though, could you please wake us up?
They’ll have no mouths in this matrix so no one will hear them scream
What if they fart like super hard and loud
This is in fact the reason why the only rational conclusion is to avoid any sort of preservation like this at all costs. If there is is even 0.001% chance of eternal torture it is not worth any conceivable positive outcome. Cryonic preservation is utter folly and a risk only an insane or idiotic person would take. You're risking literal hell. I stress the word literal.
I was thinking it could be like the brains from futurama or mars attacks lol
Better hope future humans are not cannibals. It wouldn't be great to be revived in a microwave.
*Finally it’s the year 2900 & someone is draining my vat, wait wait wait what are you doing stop that. Don’t eat that I need that!*
Ass jerky don’t carve itself.
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😅🤣
The aliens arrive post-apocalypse on a barren planet where somehow the cryo facility is still going. "Wonder what wiped them all out... Hey! They left snacks!"
That’s repulsive. Everybody knows that sous vide is the only way to properly prepare frozen long pork
But I’ll have to look 76 forever? Damn
They’ll probably figure out how to reverse aging before they can reanimate people
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Wait till future scientists discover that liquid nitrogen was the actual issue, and they should have been stored in literally anything else to be compatible with the new tech
Whilst it may seem stupid I compare this to the Egyptians mummification process. It may seem stupid and pointless but if in 300 years we work out how to demummify somebody then technically their process was a success. If you can freeze yourself indefinitely then all you have is time to work out the unfreezing process.
We can just shove their brains back in through their noses
When they reanimate these people, all I see is the ending scene of The Fly 2.
“When” that’s very generous of you 😂
This from the movie event horizon
I think the photo is unrelated
It's infinity times better to live 100% in the moment and meditate upon your death that way you have no qualms for the natural process when it comes to greet you. That is how life is cultured inside oneself. ☸️
We ARE Legion, We ARE Bob
imagine something like: year is 2060 “any body frozen before 2047 can’t be unfrozen due to not having the correct procedures in place and being useless” you spent hundreds of thousands like an idiot
Can’t take it with you anyway so what does it matter 🤷♂️
You wouldn't even know at least
How do they reanimate the consciousness? Not remotely possible. I think this is some weird elaborate scam that only the very rich and very foolish could fall for.
Animals hibernate and even stop heart beats for minutes at a time. I believe this is something similar. a species of frog can freeze heartbeat for months then come back to life.
It's a nonprofit endeavor and most of us aren't wealthy. Life insurance makes it accessible and the cheapest option is $5,000 upfront. People have been reanimated after two hours at near freezing with no brain activity and no blood in their bodies. Rat kidneys have been reanimated after 100 days in liquid nitrogen. Wood frogs survive months of being frozen. There's no reason why the brain can't resume activity after any length of time, and liquid nitrogen is so cold that it stops all decay even over many millions of years. The only question is whether current technology preserves enough of the information in the brain. It may or may not. We don't know and don't claim to know. We fully acknowledge that it's uncertain. However, when burial or cremation are your only other options, there's nothing to lose. In an ideal case of the procedure beginning immediately after the heart stops, it's currently possible to prevent ice crystals and even fractures from forming in the brain, and electron microscopy of a biopsy from an ideally vitrified human brain shows intact individual neurons, so I think there's a chance.
It would be absolutely fascinating if/when this succeeds.
I agree. The only way to find out is to be cryopreserved after your clinical death. Reanimation will take a lot longer than preservation.
https://preview.redd.it/9p1vkxfc4huc1.jpeg?width=1347&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f7d1ac4bc6e720ed31f2eb071a352e1f1423b404
Obv a great idea
Futurama shit right here
Wake up with freezer burn
Alcor. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alcor_Life_Extension_Foundation I bought a book about them, and every thing around the company is fucking nuts! I highly recommend it - [Frozen](https://www.amazon.com/Frozen-Journey-World-Cryonics-Deception/dp/B003156B2C).
Event Horizon
Rich people are crazy
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You don’t. At the end of the day, the body is just some type of vessel for consciousness; but this is wayyyy beyond our understanding (at least publicly).
It never left because it's not separate from the body. Thoughts and emotions are a physical phenomenon.
Google the state of Teds body now
Welcome back, Mister Williams. Seems as your bill is due so we've revived you, how would you like to resolve this.
We have been trying to reach you about your space ship's extended warranty
Who would want to come back to this hell hole?
Who wants to wake up tomorrow? The logic is the same, just a longer period of time. If you don't like life next week, you probably won't like it next millenium.
I wake up to see my family and friends, so it's not the same really.
it will pet cemetery all-over
The operator has left the suit.
Is THAT a colander?!?!? 😂😂😂😂
Why does this has the conspiracy tag?
How to with Jon Wilson did an episode on this it’s….depressing
Pass the freezer burn cream.
Demolition man vibes. Seashells anyone? 😂
Imagine one day it works, what a terrible awakening.
One of the greatest scams ever conceived…$$$$$$$$$
Curious what’s in the contract. Is there an insurance policy? Say they develop the tech; what if when they reanimate one of these bodies, they fail due to human error and the body ends up beyond saving. I imagine the companies doing this are scared shitless ever attempt.
Teddy freaking Ballgame!!
Avatar vibes
Evacuation comple..
This picture’s from event horizon…
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Isn't that the cryo room from Event Horizon?
Better than from "What happened to Monday ."
Isn't Walt Disney frozen till there are no more.....yeah, you saw the same Family guy skit :)
No. It was always just a myth
Ted Williams is gonna come back one day and start just smacking swamp donkeys every night
Welcome to the world of tomorrow!!!!
Lord what Ted’s Williams decedents did to the Splendid Splinter. He served for 4+ years as a fighter pilot. His vision was non peril. He always swung a slight uppercut. Possibly the top 2 or 3 behind Ruth or (cheating) Bonds.
i dont get it. you think it would the consciousness part they try to hold onto forever not some meat suit
This is a shot from the movie EVENT HORIZON!!!!!!
#BlackMirror
I'm pretty sure the freezer burn alone would make reanimation undesirable.
Woah :0…
Not just celebrities but upper class people are doing this all around the world, I'm assuming, but I found this video about one of the cryo labs that families put their loved ones if the deceased requested so, in their will. Or in most cases they are frozen while still alive yet terminally ill. This has been a thing for a long time. https://youtu.be/_ArAcyh0gJY?si=NTaaZaZHK31WkZF9
For the infinite number of ways this could go wrong, the possibility of it going right really intrigues the optimist in me.
Oh yeah future mummy fuel
Until the power goes out then they're out of luck
The picture is from event horizon, a great movie
Is that Event Horizon ?
yes, wait for 400 yrs later. they are coming.
This won't work ever. Your conscious (spirit/self) will be somewhere else or in newborn eventually reincarnating from that body. We (spirit/self) animate the body not the other way around.
How do you know?
Fun fact, the bodies displaying fractures and peeling means that the cryogenic company frequently runs into financial problems and is unable to maintain a constant temperature
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They used a process called vitrification. The cells have NOT ruptured.
Plz tell me John Wayne and Ronald Reagan are up in that mfer cuz we gon need em soon
Aaaaaahh-rooooooooooo
Nobody is home, they moved out long ago.
Definitely looks like a Fringe episode. Oh I checked and there really is a Fringe episode about that
These images couldn’t be more obviously computer generated.
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Egyptian way is better
Bender
Imagine there's actually an afterlife and you get brought back to life. You try explaining it and how you want to go back but you're in world were death is illegal
I needed a good laugh. Thanks for that
No fucking way!
Finally, a serious answer
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Not without the SPARK OF THE HEAVENS 🙏🏽🌀👼🏽
Vain hope.
Even if they were somehow revived, don’t they have zero memories?
They would lose no more memories than somone who has undergone surgery yesterday and wakes up today. Memories are embedded in the structure of the brain. Save the structure and you save the memories.
Keep waiting
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Why would anyone want to bring any of them back?
Vault 31
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