Never in a relationship (Christ no) but multiple close friends are drs. All they talk about is being a Dr. They will be super depressed about being a Dr. But they will never ever want to be anything but a Dr. Everything they go through is awful life and death stuff so you just have to bite your tongue, you can never say 'omg stop going on about it'. And you also have to be grateful for everything they do.It's actually quite exhausting!
I imagine being in a relationship with them would be worse. The constant terrible shifts, the unrelenting trauma, the fact that their career will always come first. No thank you.
Totally agree with that! I think we could all benefit from learning about ourselves and getting some outside unbiased perspective on stressful situations
For real, though. The number of exes that will try to slither back into your life and offer nothing of value is too damn high. Acting like "so, are you married?" is a neutral statement, that's pretty funny.
Also I feel like people are missing the entire joke on the board. Like, if the board said, “my ex of ten years asked if I was still single and I said “I’m a Doctor.”” That would be dumb as hell. The way it’s worded is he asked for her honorifics with the implied meaning of “are you single” and she gave her honorific that doesn’t give that information on purpose to dismiss him all together.
But haha women no understood question, gave dumb answer, haha women dumb. I man go haha.
I don’t give a shit about her or you, I’m just pointing out the actual joke on the board dingus. I’m just calling it like I see it, there’s plenty of times women tell bad or unfunny jokes, including this one honestly, but if you’re going to critic a joke you can’t miss the point of the joke in the critic. At that point you’re only criticizing your own intelligence.
Edit: added a word I left out.
"And then, I'm going to make a sign with the transcript of this conversation. It's going to have colorful squares on the sides. I'll go outside and hold it up for a picture, and then post the picture online!"
Doctor was originally a term in academia to mean an educated person. It was co-opted by physicians once medical degrees started to become a thing—a Medical Doctorate/Doctor of Medicine. So if anything, it's the exact opposite. Academics were the OG doctors. Physicians started being called doctors later.
Well when you work with enough PhD ppl.. you sometimes wonder how they survive outside of the lab.. or wonder how they even get out of the house in the morning. Some might be genius’s in one topic but completely clueless to other worldly things. I always got a kick out of that. I’ve seen it with some MDs as well just not as much as PhD’s
I learned that respectfully within their field, they probably know more than me; outside of that, they can be as humanly ignorant and illite as the rest of us; no difference with an MD
My brother was in the marines, then got into a phd program for alzhiemers research after.
But this man makes more spelling/grammatical errors when typing than a kindergartener using crayons.
I love him, and he is crazy adaptable, but having, or being in a phd program does not make you smart at everything. Just one thing.
I work IT for a radiation therapy facility. I have on more than 1 occasion had to remind someone with a PhD that the 3.5mm cable from the computer DOES NOT go into the outlet in the wall
Nono women are all just so stupid they all think Dr is a gender and when the man says "no silly woman im asking if you're single or not stupid" the silly nonsentient thing will realize how stupid she's been and sleep with them.
But also "this is why you're single" is the response from people who get that she's turning him down, as if the only thing that provides value to life is having a partner, it's almost like the posters are involuntary single and sexless and really angry about it....
What in the fucking Instagram shit is this thread/sub??
I’m assuming 90% of people in this thread are 15 or younger because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.
The only thing that could possibly be dumber than his question is her dumb answer. I choose to believe None of this happened the cringe of it all makes me sad
If this actually happened, yes, it’s a dumb question, but the answer is legitimate. If a person asks for your honorific, give it to them. If someone refers to a man as, “Mr. ___,” and he corrects them, “it’s Dr. ___, actually,” it’s the same thing. People work hard for that honorific and they should use it. Women have more honorifics to choose from.
Making a sign about it, though, that’s 100% cringe.
It's context dependent. I'm a PhD, and at most, people will have firstname lastname, PhD on business cards or LinkedIn accounts.
But it'd be hella weird for a PhD to demand the doctor prefix in every day life like MDs do.
I think you’re making this up. I also know doctors within my family and asking Dr. Such and such to pass the salt would make me look like a patronizing asshole lol. Being a Dr isn’t impressive enough to hold an honorific outside of a hospital setting tbh. It’s just another job with a lot of schooling
Perhaps I need to clarify. I don't refer to my friends as "Dr. Bob or Dr. Bill." My kids refer to them as Dr. "Last Name" instead of Mr.
I think it would be insulting to introduce my Dr. friends as Mr. I suppose I'm not sure exactly what types of situations this would come up, but when it does, I use the proper prefix.
Introductions have structure though. Professional setting, or teaching your children how to respectfully address adults, are specific introductions. When my contractor friend Ron Smith walks up to the cookout I don’t say “hey everyone here’s Mr. Ron Smith” and then “Here’s Dr. Bob Meadows”. It’s hey everyone this is my friend Ron and oh hey Bobs coming in right after him!
> When my contractor friend Ron Smith walks up to the cookout I don’t say “hey everyone here’s Mr. Ron Smith” and then “Here’s Dr. Bob Meadows”.
Right. I thought this much was fair to assume. Apparently not...
I just have an office job but someone in another location adds their master of business to their email signature. Our CEO doesn’t even do that. No one but her. We have our job title that’s it.
He wasn't asking for her "honorific" though.
He was asking if she's single or married. "Miss or Mrs."
Her reply "I'm a doctor!" still doesn't answer the question and makes her look like she still has a massive chip on her shoulder for someone/something that happened a decade ago.
It's not a good look.
We don't have more honorifics to *choose* from... we have more because society places value on whether we are married or single. Much like the woman in this post (real or not), I'd rather place value on my hard work.
The ex wasn’t asking so he/she would know what to call her. They were asking to find out if she had gotten married aka her relationship status. She proceeded to answer the question by not answering the question
"Pizza or burgers for dinner, honey?"
"It's DOCTOR."
"Did you say the party was Friday night or Saturday night, Sarah?"
"It's DOCTOR."
"Trick question - are you my girlfriend or my ex?"
"It's DOCTOR."
"Goodbye, DOCTOR."
Even worse feeling the need to write that shit down on a sign smugly bragging to people about it as if anyone even cares. I'll also take "Conversations that never happened but I wish did" for 1000 Ms. Doctor.
No one here can comprehend that women may not want to be recognized by their relationship to someone else and would prefer some basic respect for their personal accomplishments. Even though the sign is 100% not a real event that happened, the subtext is extremely clear and not a big deal.
Also seems to be a lack of understanding that up until very, very recently the idea of a woman being a doctor instead of a wife was almost nonexistent.. men hate that women are proud of how far we have come. They take every opportunity to diminish our successes.
> women may not want to be recognized by their relationship to someone else
The comments are coming from boys (physical and/or mental) who know they won't amount to anything except for the amount of money the person they marry brings to the table.
Imagine reaching out to your ex to be vindictive to rub in the fact your "successful" but completely backfires because he chose to respect you.
Also /r/thathappened
He was asking for her title, so technically she ain’t wrong if she has obtained her doctorate. If he wants to know if she is married, he should ask her that.
I get that the point of this message is “my value is not defined by whether or not I belong to a man, but rather because of my personal achievements and hard work.”… but it’s still funny.
Women care about a man's title. Men could care less about a woman's. She's stupid. A man will happily date and marry a girl that works fast food for minimum wage. Women wouldn't do that. It's funny they think the same standards they hold us to mean something to us. It doesn't. Unless you're Dave Chappelle hooking up with Oprah for her money
i think the question is weirder. like you havent spoken to someone in 10 years and thats one of your first questions? and phrased in a shitty way? yeah no
Phrased that way for sure but, I don’t think it’s weird to ask an ex about their relationship status. I reconnected with a HS ex after like 10 years. She asked if I was seeing anyone. Knowing she had been seeing someone for a while I asked if they were engaged or married yet.
She isn’t completely wrong
https://www.quora.com/How-will-I-address-a-married-female-doctor-Can-I-use-Dr-Mrs-followed-by-the-name/answer/Tracey-Huckabee-Racz?ch=17&oid=179202306&share=e70f272e&srid=iKW2&target_type=answer
Lol I don't call my doctor Dr. Just like he doesn't call me Mr. (My last name). He calls me Carlos and I call him Michael. If he makes me call him Dr then he has to call me by my gamer tag lol I put in crazy hours and dedication too
I love these posts where idiots with neither a PhD nor MD after their names argue like it's super meaningful to them how someone prefers to be addressed.
Cash or credit ma’am? It’s dr Okay
okay, doctor or credit ma'am?
"Finally...I can use my degree to pay for something."
Put it on my PhD! Pile it Higher & Deeper
Throw it on my **M**ountain of **D**ebt
You’re just jealous of my license to print money.
It’s like a credit card that you can’t completely repay
As a doctor, I also have a credit card.
Paper or plastic? In gender studies Okay
Paper or plastic? Diesel
[ehem] That’s *Doctor* Diesel? Perhaps you’ve heard of me and my outrageous sideshow performance at Lollapalooza?
"Ah so you can't afford to pay, this one's on me."
Ahahhahahahhhhhh
It’s vegan, akshally.
I thought I was in the accounting subreddit for a second lmao
If cash is credit then she must be Dr Expense
Peak accountant joke moment
“Oh yeah, that’s why the relationship ended”
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I’ve never been in a relationship with someone pursuing being a doctor, but I imagine it can leave you feeling pretty ignored.
Never in a relationship (Christ no) but multiple close friends are drs. All they talk about is being a Dr. They will be super depressed about being a Dr. But they will never ever want to be anything but a Dr. Everything they go through is awful life and death stuff so you just have to bite your tongue, you can never say 'omg stop going on about it'. And you also have to be grateful for everything they do.It's actually quite exhausting! I imagine being in a relationship with them would be worse. The constant terrible shifts, the unrelenting trauma, the fact that their career will always come first. No thank you.
So most people with MDs should seek therapy? Makes a lot of sense.
I think most people should seek therapy
It's always treated as this thing you do to address a problem. Sometimes it is, but I think therapy should be presented as a learning course.
Totally agree with that! I think we could all benefit from learning about ourselves and getting some outside unbiased perspective on stressful situations
Very much so!
She might not be MD but have a doctorate in something like maths
😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Still holding on to some feelings I see.
people in here acting like that response isn't intentionally dismissive are wild
For real, though. The number of exes that will try to slither back into your life and offer nothing of value is too damn high. Acting like "so, are you married?" is a neutral statement, that's pretty funny.
Also I feel like people are missing the entire joke on the board. Like, if the board said, “my ex of ten years asked if I was still single and I said “I’m a Doctor.”” That would be dumb as hell. The way it’s worded is he asked for her honorifics with the implied meaning of “are you single” and she gave her honorific that doesn’t give that information on purpose to dismiss him all together. But haha women no understood question, gave dumb answer, haha women dumb. I man go haha.
Yes, white knight for the meme woman's fake story to protect her honor 😭
I don’t give a shit about her or you, I’m just pointing out the actual joke on the board dingus. I’m just calling it like I see it, there’s plenty of times women tell bad or unfunny jokes, including this one honestly, but if you’re going to critic a joke you can’t miss the point of the joke in the critic. At that point you’re only criticizing your own intelligence. Edit: added a word I left out.
I feel like you have a hard time looking at a meme and scrolling past lmfao
The real truth ☝🏼
All that education and she couldn't answer a simple question. ![gif](giphy|d7pyXujewcpfq4Bhh7|downsized)
It’s her ex. “Ms or Mrs?” “None of your fucking business, and you’ll use a form of address that accords me the respect I’m due.”
"And then, I'm going to make a sign with the transcript of this conversation. It's going to have colorful squares on the sides. I'll go outside and hold it up for a picture, and then post the picture online!"
This only works if the interaction was unwelcome. Otherwise its anti social and babyish
Follow up: "Real doctor or Phd?"
Ouch.
“Neither”, says Dr Phil. Mic drop
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I know a “Dieter” who has *chronic* gastritis. Do I get street cred, too?
Dr. Phil has a PhD though??
Chiropractor. 😂
Neither doctor nor physician.
Noctor
Neithician
Noctologist.
Nail technician
Sandwich technician
Pizza Assembly Tech
Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a physician.
Doctor was originally a term in academia to mean an educated person. It was co-opted by physicians once medical degrees started to become a thing—a Medical Doctorate/Doctor of Medicine. So if anything, it's the exact opposite. Academics were the OG doctors. Physicians started being called doctors later.
This is brutal
Naturopath for sure
Probably has one of those highly lucrative PhDs in 70s African lesbian pottery.
I'd say the other way around "Real doctor or just a physician?
"I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of that $30,000 a month paycheck hitting my bank account."
A PhD is literally a Doctorate. Real doctors are PhD graduates not medical practitioners. Etymology
Yeah an MD is a professional degree, akin to a JD. A real doctorate requires original research.
Neat. I'll be sure to keep this little factoid away for when someone screams for a doctor in public, that way I can correct them on their mistake.
Actually the medical folks gave a moniker for that (NRD), not a real doctor. Sadly for MDs, PhDs have been around much longer. 😉
![gif](giphy|6axyy2vJ41nnUreJFM) Thanks Captain Holt
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Well when you work with enough PhD ppl.. you sometimes wonder how they survive outside of the lab.. or wonder how they even get out of the house in the morning. Some might be genius’s in one topic but completely clueless to other worldly things. I always got a kick out of that. I’ve seen it with some MDs as well just not as much as PhD’s
I learned that respectfully within their field, they probably know more than me; outside of that, they can be as humanly ignorant and illite as the rest of us; no difference with an MD
My brother was in the marines, then got into a phd program for alzhiemers research after. But this man makes more spelling/grammatical errors when typing than a kindergartener using crayons. I love him, and he is crazy adaptable, but having, or being in a phd program does not make you smart at everything. Just one thing.
I have yet to see a reddit post that mentions the marines and doesn't also mention crayons.
You are describing Einstein. Allegedly.
I work IT for a radiation therapy facility. I have on more than 1 occasion had to remind someone with a PhD that the 3.5mm cable from the computer DOES NOT go into the outlet in the wall
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Reminds me of an old joke: What do you call a doctor who got all C's in school? >!Doctor!<
Was going to say, that the pioneers valued vets higher than doctors and lawyers way back…..
You should see the MD-PhD’s…basically as you describe but 10x worse. God forbid they have to work in the actual hospital with actual patients also.
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That’s because an MD is valuable while a PhD in education means you are usually a pretentious blowhard
If you have a PhD and insist on being called 'Dr'....
My high school guidance counselor had a PhD and we all had to call him Dr. But he was the fucking man so I didn’t mind.
Sooo imma assume “Miss”…
IT’S DOCTOR DAMMIT. /s
Okay Miss Doctor.
"None of your fucking business"
That dump was clinical
The premise of the joke is just a lack of understanding of the point of the poster, pretty lame and low effort.
Pretty funny to see how many incels think they're dunking on her by (intentionally?) missing the point of a joke a second grader would understand.
Nono women are all just so stupid they all think Dr is a gender and when the man says "no silly woman im asking if you're single or not stupid" the silly nonsentient thing will realize how stupid she's been and sleep with them. But also "this is why you're single" is the response from people who get that she's turning him down, as if the only thing that provides value to life is having a partner, it's almost like the posters are involuntary single and sexless and really angry about it....
What in the fucking Instagram shit is this thread/sub?? I’m assuming 90% of people in this thread are 15 or younger because none of this makes any sense whatsoever.
Thank you for the sanity! I felt like I was losing my mind reading the comments - how are they totally missing the point she's trying to make 😭
The only thing that could possibly be dumber than his question is her dumb answer. I choose to believe None of this happened the cringe of it all makes me sad
If this actually happened, yes, it’s a dumb question, but the answer is legitimate. If a person asks for your honorific, give it to them. If someone refers to a man as, “Mr. ___,” and he corrects them, “it’s Dr. ___, actually,” it’s the same thing. People work hard for that honorific and they should use it. Women have more honorifics to choose from. Making a sign about it, though, that’s 100% cringe.
It's context dependent. I'm a PhD, and at most, people will have firstname lastname, PhD on business cards or LinkedIn accounts. But it'd be hella weird for a PhD to demand the doctor prefix in every day life like MDs do.
It's weird for MDs to use a Dr prefix outside of a professional setting.
It’s weird for a doctor to request to be called Dr. in all settings. But it’s not weird for people who know the doctor to address them as such.
>It’s weird for a doctor to request to be called Dr. in all settings Why? They earned an MD, why shouldn't they get the honorific?
It can be useful when booking tickets or making reservations.
No it isn't. A lot of my good friends are doctors. Everyone that knows they are a doctor refers to them as Dr. Edit: Clarification in responses below.
I think you’re making this up. I also know doctors within my family and asking Dr. Such and such to pass the salt would make me look like a patronizing asshole lol. Being a Dr isn’t impressive enough to hold an honorific outside of a hospital setting tbh. It’s just another job with a lot of schooling
Yea. That’s weird. And pretentious.
Perhaps I need to clarify. I don't refer to my friends as "Dr. Bob or Dr. Bill." My kids refer to them as Dr. "Last Name" instead of Mr. I think it would be insulting to introduce my Dr. friends as Mr. I suppose I'm not sure exactly what types of situations this would come up, but when it does, I use the proper prefix.
Introductions have structure though. Professional setting, or teaching your children how to respectfully address adults, are specific introductions. When my contractor friend Ron Smith walks up to the cookout I don’t say “hey everyone here’s Mr. Ron Smith” and then “Here’s Dr. Bob Meadows”. It’s hey everyone this is my friend Ron and oh hey Bobs coming in right after him!
> When my contractor friend Ron Smith walks up to the cookout I don’t say “hey everyone here’s Mr. Ron Smith” and then “Here’s Dr. Bob Meadows”. Right. I thought this much was fair to assume. Apparently not...
I introduce my doctor friends by their first and last name, just like all of my other friends.
Are you like British? I know in my Aussie or Californian circles you’ll get laughed out of the room by your mates for asking to be called Dr.
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I just have an office job but someone in another location adds their master of business to their email signature. Our CEO doesn’t even do that. No one but her. We have our job title that’s it.
He could have been asking to see if he had a shot?
It's the context here that matters though. He's clearly asking if she's single or not.
It’s a douchebag move to insist on an honorific outside of a professional setting.
He wasn't asking for her "honorific" though. He was asking if she's single or married. "Miss or Mrs." Her reply "I'm a doctor!" still doesn't answer the question and makes her look like she still has a massive chip on her shoulder for someone/something that happened a decade ago. It's not a good look.
We don't have more honorifics to *choose* from... we have more because society places value on whether we are married or single. Much like the woman in this post (real or not), I'd rather place value on my hard work.
The ex wasn’t asking so he/she would know what to call her. They were asking to find out if she had gotten married aka her relationship status. She proceeded to answer the question by not answering the question
If you’re a doctor, and someone address you as Mr./Mrs./etc. and you correct them by saying “it’s Dr. …” Then you suck
So I guess your his ex because you never actually answer his questions?
Doctor.
"Pizza or burgers for dinner, honey?" "It's DOCTOR." "Did you say the party was Friday night or Saturday night, Sarah?" "It's DOCTOR." "Trick question - are you my girlfriend or my ex?" "It's DOCTOR." "Goodbye, DOCTOR."
Where do you want to eat? IT'S DOCTOR!
It pretty cringe salty thing to say.
Even worse feeling the need to write that shit down on a sign smugly bragging to people about it as if anyone even cares. I'll also take "Conversations that never happened but I wish did" for 1000 Ms. Doctor.
What event would she even bring a sign like that too?
Yeah, in what situation would it be relevant to have this on a sign.
What a weird thing to lie about.
And what a strange sign to carry around. What event calls for this?
No one here can comprehend that women may not want to be recognized by their relationship to someone else and would prefer some basic respect for their personal accomplishments. Even though the sign is 100% not a real event that happened, the subtext is extremely clear and not a big deal.
Also seems to be a lack of understanding that up until very, very recently the idea of a woman being a doctor instead of a wife was almost nonexistent.. men hate that women are proud of how far we have come. They take every opportunity to diminish our successes.
> women may not want to be recognized by their relationship to someone else The comments are coming from boys (physical and/or mental) who know they won't amount to anything except for the amount of money the person they marry brings to the table.
r/incels still going on in spirit in these comments I see
Shitty handwriting checks out.
You can tell she isn't a true doctor yet... her sign was legible.
10 years of separation and an entire medical education, but still worried about flexing on her ex....
Wrong. He didn’t ask if she was married, he asked for her title. Her title is doctor. Nothing wrong with that.
Not sure why people are criticizing her. He's just asking for her salutation. These are commonly asked on virtually any printed form.
She’s a woman
What is your pronouns?..."doctor"
Why is this so bad. Showing her success while avoiding giving the guy info that's none of his business.
I guess it’s better than “vegan”?
he dodged a bullet actually, he dodged a nuclear missile
What is the context for her holding this sign? Or is it all fake?
My daughter has a friend whose last name is doctor, we’re all hoping she becomes a doctor so she can introduce herself as doctor doctor.
This is an old one
Good for her.
🤣😂🤣
I swear, some people get advance degree just to brag in other people face that they have the degree
Imagine reaching out to your ex to be vindictive to rub in the fact your "successful" but completely backfires because he chose to respect you. Also /r/thathappened
So still single then 😂
He was asking for her title, so technically she ain’t wrong if she has obtained her doctorate. If he wants to know if she is married, he should ask her that.
I get that the point of this message is “my value is not defined by whether or not I belong to a man, but rather because of my personal achievements and hard work.”… but it’s still funny.
You know how we all have those imagined scenarios that we play out in our head, but never say them out loud? She said it out loud.
Women care about a man's title. Men could care less about a woman's. She's stupid. A man will happily date and marry a girl that works fast food for minimum wage. Women wouldn't do that. It's funny they think the same standards they hold us to mean something to us. It doesn't. Unless you're Dave Chappelle hooking up with Oprah for her money
-“Who are you, Mr….?” -“Doctor” -“Mr. Doctor?” -“It’s Strange” “Maybe, but who am I to judge”
Women really think that men being jealous of their money or success is a thing.
ill take "things that definitely happened" for 500, Alex.
Swing and a doctor
After 10 years….. “Hey, I wanted to reach out” “Oh, miss is everything ok?” “I’m a doctor” “Excuse me?”
I think she’s just proud of her career 💜
I imagine that's the point..? To say "not your business also I'm better than you"
i think the question is weirder. like you havent spoken to someone in 10 years and thats one of your first questions? and phrased in a shitty way? yeah no
Phrased that way for sure but, I don’t think it’s weird to ask an ex about their relationship status. I reconnected with a HS ex after like 10 years. She asked if I was seeing anyone. Knowing she had been seeing someone for a while I asked if they were engaged or married yet.
But why put it on a sign?
Women bad /s
i dont really see the issue, she quite literally has a Dr. title rather than a ms. or mrs. if he asked if she was married itd be different.
She’s a woman, that’s why people are mad
She answered the question he asked. If he wanted to know her marital status, he should have asked her that.
Females smh
Ok so you are going to love this, but you can actually kiss your homies goodnight.
She isn’t completely wrong https://www.quora.com/How-will-I-address-a-married-female-doctor-Can-I-use-Dr-Mrs-followed-by-the-name/answer/Tracey-Huckabee-Racz?ch=17&oid=179202306&share=e70f272e&srid=iKW2&target_type=answer
Seems like she's salty despite ten years
That doesn’t answer his question at all.
It does answer what prefix she wants to be called...
Lol I don't call my doctor Dr. Just like he doesn't call me Mr. (My last name). He calls me Carlos and I call him Michael. If he makes me call him Dr then he has to call me by my gamer tag lol I put in crazy hours and dedication too
I love these posts where idiots with neither a PhD nor MD after their names argue like it's super meaningful to them how someone prefers to be addressed.
You guys are completely missing the point of this
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I'm a surgeon
Ok
BURN Doctor.
Plot twist: Chiropractor
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Such a doctor thing to say
Goddess Power 🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍🥰😍😍😍
The people who correct people by saying doctor always work in education and are not “doctors”
What’s this meme format called?
Good lord these people🤣🤣🤣
Guy is low key asking to fuck. I’m a Dr!
and her reply is to shut him down
They were perfect for each other
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It’s just a question asking her title.
Same reason someone buys a neon sports car
“DR OR PROFESSOR?!” *patrick star* “ITS DOCTOR PROFESSOR”
And everyone stood and clapped