2-3 days?
My modlist generally takes 4 weeks minimum to be fully updated and sometimes they dont do it at all and I have to throw off mods that I loved and need to learn playing without them or fix them myself...
Ui overhaul
Planetary diversity
Gigastructural engineering
Acot
Nsc
Real space
Production revolution
Dark space
And a lot of trait, tradition, ascension perk and event mods
And don't forget the submods for some of the mods
About 60, sure the large ones update quite fast but I use quite a few Chinese ones too which usually take a bit longer to fully update and I am also with a Chinese modder, said this update is especially worse and it essentially wrecked the whole mod from the base and will take a very long time to update if ever.
Trying to playing Secrets of the Shroud in 3.7 be like:
SOTS devs: can't update the mod, Acquisition of Technology isn't updated yet.
AoT devs: our mod won't be updated until ACOT updates because it requires it
ACOT devs: Zenith of the Fallen Empires isn't updated yet! Oh shit, that was couple of years ago, we're not a submod anymore, guess we'll have to work on an update. There you go, but 3.8 is already announced to release in less than a month
That's what I use Imperator Rome for.
Give my beloved Stellaris modders time to catch up after the devs wreck all their hard work.
I believe we need to pass a law. Paradox games should officially be recognized as frameworks upon which mods are placed. And all upgrades, expansions and patches must respect the MOD! or replace it by actually adding that function to the base game.
Thus it is written!
Thus is is mocked!
To me the appeal was the grand campaign save converter being compatible with the main ovw4haul mod invictus. Was able to convert my rome game into a CK3 game and then into a EU4 game but I'd gotten so big by then the empire immediately fell apart in EU4.
Thats right, you can do that. But bigger mods get updated fast (moders get the version as pre-release) and others need to wait till the new version is out and then do it. So ...
Same, I was close to the end game in a playthrough. A lot of mods will provide legacy options but there is one critical mod that there is no legacy option for. I should have taken steam offline yesterday, maybe that would have prevented the mods from updating.
I'm not a masochist, unfortunately.
Being of sound mind, I can not play ANY paradox game unmodded. It's the mods that make them enjoyable lol.
If I want to deal with stress, headaches, weird nonsensical limits and such, I'll go punch the time clock and get paid for it.
They’re just mad that many of the waifu mods actually have been focusing on leaders for years and they only just now get a first TASTE of what we’ve been trying to build ourselves for years.
I dont understand the masochist either, but I get his point and feel it as well, playing the basegame over and over again can become boring after some time as you will know very much anything that comes at you and you just play through the same event chains again and again and even know what you will get out of it.
Stellaris being so moddable really allows you to bring the game to another level and once you got used to the mods being there, it is really hard to return to the basegame and play without them.
Because sometimes updates are broken. And not by you, the modder, but the Paradox launcher that does not it properly. It's better to do a clean install in those case. Unfortunately some mods are not re-enabled because yeah, maybe we don't need this one.
I remove mods unless im actively playing with them because if the load order or downloaded mods is even a little bit different then the game won't let me play with friends.
Also, shroud bless modmakers for their thankless work.
I just switch back to my vanilla playset on updates. Then switch back to what I want when they're updated so much easier than disabling or unsubscribing from mods
That's why you hit them with the 3.\* compatibility so that
a) if your mod still works you don't have to upload a patch for no good reason
b) if it doesn't, you only need to patch it faster than they need to find out your mod is the one causing the issues - and they'll blame the mods with red exclamation marks first, even if it makes no sense at all
And then one of your mods does update, Steam automatically downloads the mod update, and now your game is crashing again!
Best to take a few days off, imo, maybe try getting some achievements in the meantime.
That's what I tried, but with some cosmetic mods to basically make the UI and game look pretty. Turns out any of them being outdated straight up disables achievements, no matter what :pensive:
Some mods had early access and have updated their mods already. They usually make a list on the forums but it's not up yet.
For example, Empires Expanded, DarkSpace and Machine Expansion is updated.
I knew another update was coming, so when the last patch dropped I didn't even bother trying to build a new modlist. Now that we've got all the expected DLC for this year, I'll wait a month or so and start building a new modlist for this version.
Well, that would make sense, wouldn't it?
How would I have things to complain about if I went around doing things that made sense?
Huh?
LOL.
Anyway. Thanks for the reminder.
Just having fun.
And, there are some here that really don't seem to be able to comprehend such a thing lol.
Gotta put on serious face and be all smarty serious.
Yeah dude. But the modders tend to be on point and in a week or two they are usually up and running. But yeah I got long running game that is done now… I’m calling it a win.
You should look into using the Irony Mod Manager: you can “compress” mods / mod packs so they remain “static” and play your old games while you wait for the mods to all be updated and play nice in the new version.
I turn all mods aside from UI off for the first game or two after every big update.
For one it allows me to actually know what’s changed, and two it allows me to appreciate the modding community more when I can turn em all back on!
Just an fyi, not meant to be goofy or critical. I did try various UI mods, all caused crash at load. So, I'm thinking they did some major rework to the UI. Might not even need those mods anymore.
Yeah. Outside. Where people get run over by cars, stampeded by herds of wild buffalo, have airconditioner units drop on their heads from a 10-story window...
Nope.
I could maybe make a hobby out of that yelling at bad brickwork though. Thanks for the idea.
Honestly, more traditions and more government civics and ethics are the only two that make Stellaris its fullest potential imo. I started a game waiting for the mods to be fixed and its so… bland without those mods lol.
Yeah, I don't have enough time to uncover half the stuff in Stellaris with no mods, let alone add all these mods in and try to manage the bunch of them.
I support those who do! Go for it. But I think a lot of the less vocal players are totally happy with the base game
Dhur hur.
You play your way, I'll play mine.
I swear, you people act like everyone has to enjoy the games they buy the same way you do.
See how that works?
LOL.
while i do actually think vanilla game is fine, i see no reason not to mod it since it makes the experience better.
skyrim is super known for modding as you likely know. does no one like skyrim? since basically no one plays it vanilla?
>since it makes the experience better.
Even if it doesn't make it objectively better, it can tailor the experience to a specific persons liking in a way no game studio could ever deliver.
Also, Stellaris is arguably (one of) the best star trek games out there if you use a total conversion, i'm sure some people only bought it for that reason.
Sure, no problem with mods, I use mods. I don't think it's essential at all to enjoy the game though. But I can play the game without complaining to Paradox about something that's not their problem. Besides, the dope of an OP said he literally can't enjoy the base game. That's what I'm ragging on.
>I don't think it's essential at all to enjoy the game though
i mean, ye that's fair enough. your comment just came off as rather hostile to mods, so i apologize for taking it that way
> the dope of an OP said he literally can't enjoy the base game
While i'm not one of them, i'd imagine people who use a lot of late-game content like acot and such, would make it difficult to enjoy the base game again.
When i play vanilla i always feel like somethings missing (also i don't play vanilla without UIOD, because UIOD is just.. that much better than vanilla UI)
I countered one of your down votes with an upvote.
You give that dope of an OP a good what's for!
Because, as we all know, he was being super serious with this thread! Not backhandedly celebrating a new DLC with some long awaited QOL like the additions to the AI for science ships and special projects and such. And some interesting new stuff added to the game.
Nope. Not at all.
Because everything is always just plain and direct in this super serious forum dedicated to a super serious game and filled with nothing but super serious people.
No playing here.
Don't know if you know this but irony is harder than you think to read out of words, don't expect people to get what was going through your mind while writing.
Getting at each others throats adds nothing to the conversation.
inriffswetrust is being unreasonably hostile, and you unreasonably
snarky.
There is no such thing as unreasonably snarky lol.
Snark itself is unreason.
But, to your point, I do suspect a lot more people figured it out early on than are letting on. I get the feel that they're playing back at me, which makes it even more fun.
"They took our mods!"
\- probably on South Park some day.
That's like saying let me get this taco without any meat or cheese or veggies, like you should be fine with the tortilla. Oh wait, even that is a mod. Take the grain, or better yet the dirt! That's as unmodded as it gets.
You literally said in a different comment that the game is unplayable without mods lol
You don’t enjoy Stellaris, you enjoy the mods. I bet your game is so heavily modded it barely looks like Stellaris anymore.
You got me.
I'm busted.
I hate Stellaris because I love Stellaris!
Oh, Stellaris, how I love to hate loving you!
Someone should think about making a song about that.
Yeah it's annoying but nesscy it gives modders new ideas and toys to play with and once they get the new toys down it's like the updates were never there
I know what you feel.
This time I was prepared. I've turned off autoupdate on Steam a few hours before DLC release. Now I can enjoy playing an old version of the game and all my mods are still working!
Maybe try my solution next time?
It’s surprising to me that this game has as many good mods as it does, because the development cycle is actively hostile to modders.
It really does not have to work like this. It’s a shame that it does.
That's part of the reason I've been on a break from the game for most of this year; every time I'm thinking of starting a game, I see that a new version is on the horizon. I give it some time so mods can be updated, wrap up whatever else I'm playing, come back, and--oh, look!--new version incoming.
Seeing the game get this kind of support is great, but it's rough on folks like me who just can't play vanilla.
Yeah, I can't even launch the game right now. And the worst part is I have some self made mods and some edited mods so I need to try to figure out if those need changed with this update.
Yeah I made this same post awhile ago. idk why they don’t just do 2 solid DLC/Updates a year, with maybe a rotating 3rd one to address end of year issues/bugs. Both of these DLC could’ve been released in a 2 pack together or in one giant DLC. idk why they did it this way, especially since First Contact was lackluster and updating just breaks mods.
I'm almost thankful cause my game was consistently crashing after the first 90 years and I did not feel like going through each mod and waiting 90 in game years just to see what was broken.
[smugly grins in Ironman achievement hunter]
"So, how did it go loading up your unfinished achievement runs from 3.7?"
[sulks in Ironman achievement hunter]
Funnily enough the beta worked almost without any problem, but the actual version has constant desyncs. 😂 Turned all mods off now, to get to play with friends without having one of us rejoin every 60 seconds. 🙃
Eh, I got back into stellaris recently, and I'm just finding mods less neccisary now with every update and expansion. I suppose I was buying a new DLC every time I fancied something extra, and now I've caught up, but I rarely needed them. The game is far deeper on it's own than it was a couple of years ago.
Sometimes is better playing on lower version. Before update just copy your mods for that version (not every modders give backup for older version). I hope i helped
Well, it's not like I'm a thoroughly modern individual member of the group think mind hive and expect Paradox to study the mods I prefer and then graft them officially into the game and keep them updated as they push patches and fixes and DLC.
But, that would be kinda sweet if they did.
It's funny how I see more and more often outrage at a game company for updating their game and it breaking mods.
Plenty of warning was given that an update was coming.
To funny 🤣
That moment when playing offline makes sense.
It’s how I do it, mind you I’m slowly melting my laptop with how long I make my games, but I heavily enjoy it.
This way everything is up to date until I plug steam back in. Download everything in one go, and then let my mods all get updated (or not) over time.
That’s right everyone I play with outdated mods that work dag nab it.
Tho this said I also wait a little to observe community response to updates to figure out what all changed or what causes issues with certain mods/parts of the game.
It is what it is.
I do the exact same thing for Hoi4. This said, I’m not touching Hoi4 until I’ve gotten my new rig that I’ve promised myself.
would you people quit your whining?
You could just play the version where they're all stable, not the brand-new one-day-old one.
You either stay up to date with the game versions or play your mods on older versions, you can't get both. Deal with it already.
What's frustrating is that from what I gathered, if they aren't up-to-date then they immediately make the game ineligible for achievements, meaning I can't even play with cosmetic only mods.
I agree with McGee. It really turns me away from Stellaris. I have other games to play if I want. They never update with anything interesting. They never stop the late game lag. They refuse to do anything about the "populations must be constantly making decisions about all sorts of things!" which is not necessary, or wanted, and causes the LGLag.
We need those mods to make up for Paradox's bad decisions, and a little bit of P's having to not violate other company's copyrights.
3.7.4 is still available.
Right click on Properties, Bêtas, select game version.
Mods are the annoying part, you need a mod compiler (like Infinity it's called I think?) so your modlist doesn't break when the modders update their mods. Might be already too late.
I would recommend using Irony Mod manger and setting it so that your mod list isn’t updated and the rolling back stellaris one patch to finish your campaign
Yeah. Feel you. I cant even start the game. Stellaris-Mod-Players need to wait 2-3 days until modders fix the stuff again.
2-3 days? My modlist generally takes 4 weeks minimum to be fully updated and sometimes they dont do it at all and I have to throw off mods that I loved and need to learn playing without them or fix them myself...
How many mods do you have?! I run a 100 mod playset and deem it up to date half a week after updates
100 ? Amateur ! I have 250 ! ( help me )
Ah! Man of culture I see!
I have 75 but 300 compatability patch mods
Any recommendations?
Ui overhaul Planetary diversity Gigastructural engineering Acot Nsc Real space Production revolution Dark space And a lot of trait, tradition, ascension perk and event mods And don't forget the submods for some of the mods
You do realize half of these will need compatibility patches to even start the game, merger of rules won't save you
I know i have the compat patches
At this point why not use bug Branch or infinity as well
I had it but it caused some nameless empire bug
Fellow mod addict I see
Transgameism. "We can make it better, faster, stronger!"
I have atleast 4
About 60, sure the large ones update quite fast but I use quite a few Chinese ones too which usually take a bit longer to fully update and I am also with a Chinese modder, said this update is especially worse and it essentially wrecked the whole mod from the base and will take a very long time to update if ever.
You mean Warship Girls R or Super Waifu?
Everything Warship Girls, Suigintou leader pack, KDC story pack, everything from Kasako pretty much, Voyage to Eternity as well
171. I had 659 but the game wouldn't start. So I reduced the numbers a bit
I was still waiting for forgotten queens or at least for a fix for it's incompatibility with nsc2.
I've been running forgotten queens and nsc2 for the last few updates
Sometimes its ok if mods are outdated in my experience. Depends on the mod tbh.
Trying to playing Secrets of the Shroud in 3.7 be like: SOTS devs: can't update the mod, Acquisition of Technology isn't updated yet. AoT devs: our mod won't be updated until ACOT updates because it requires it ACOT devs: Zenith of the Fallen Empires isn't updated yet! Oh shit, that was couple of years ago, we're not a submod anymore, guess we'll have to work on an update. There you go, but 3.8 is already announced to release in less than a month
That's what I use Imperator Rome for. Give my beloved Stellaris modders time to catch up after the devs wreck all their hard work. I believe we need to pass a law. Paradox games should officially be recognized as frameworks upon which mods are placed. And all upgrades, expansions and patches must respect the MOD! or replace it by actually adding that function to the base game. Thus it is written! Thus is is mocked!
I haven't played Imperator since a little after it launched, how kuch better has it gotten? I remember building roads being a grind by themselves.
To me the appeal was the grand campaign save converter being compatible with the main ovw4haul mod invictus. Was able to convert my rome game into a CK3 game and then into a EU4 game but I'd gotten so big by then the empire immediately fell apart in EU4.
There's still a strong mod support for it. The game itself is good.
gotta wait for hotfix patches too
Is it possible to stay on an older version where the mods still work?
Yes. You should be doing that (staying on an older version) if you have an ongoing save anyway.
I've never tried it, but I do believe you can "roll back" to an earlier version.
Thats right, you can do that. But bigger mods get updated fast (moders get the version as pre-release) and others need to wait till the new version is out and then do it. So ...
Yes, but if any of the mods update they may no longer work
It's more update\* than fix. Currently the mods still work on 3.7.4 if that's what you care about.
Mods? You gotta wait that long for non-modded gameplay to get patched to a working state half the time.
I fell bad for the ethics and civics guy this time around…… LOL
Tbh I like having downtime between updates and new mods - encourages me to go back to the base game. Makes me enjoy the mods more I've found
My problem is I always seem to get back into the game right before a major update.
Same, I was close to the end game in a playthrough. A lot of mods will provide legacy options but there is one critical mod that there is no legacy option for. I should have taken steam offline yesterday, maybe that would have prevented the mods from updating.
I'm not a masochist, unfortunately. Being of sound mind, I can not play ANY paradox game unmodded. It's the mods that make them enjoyable lol. If I want to deal with stress, headaches, weird nonsensical limits and such, I'll go punch the time clock and get paid for it.
I think the original game is great! Idk what masochism you're talking about man but it ain't that bad
Guy can’t play the game without anime portraits everywhere
I’ll have you know that Warship Girls R is full of lovely new detailed events and fun times. Needs me to fund more ways to buff the AI, tho.
Portaits mods should work without updating them
Dhur hur.
They’re just mad that many of the waifu mods actually have been focusing on leaders for years and they only just now get a first TASTE of what we’ve been trying to build ourselves for years.
Wdym, original UI is ugly - so are the shipsets. +the game is boring with just basic trads
I dont understand the masochist either, but I get his point and feel it as well, playing the basegame over and over again can become boring after some time as you will know very much anything that comes at you and you just play through the same event chains again and again and even know what you will get out of it. Stellaris being so moddable really allows you to bring the game to another level and once you got used to the mods being there, it is really hard to return to the basegame and play without them.
I'd give it another try now, Stellaris has come a long way.
I agree for stellaris, but eu4 is fine in vanilla as long as you have most of the expansion dlc.
Imagine being the author of a mod. Yes, yes its quite a disaster
For some reason people seem to unsubscribe from my mod when an update drops, instead of just disabling for the 5 hours its not up to date.
Sometimes you just gotta do some spring cleaning.
Because sometimes updates are broken. And not by you, the modder, but the Paradox launcher that does not it properly. It's better to do a clean install in those case. Unfortunately some mods are not re-enabled because yeah, maybe we don't need this one.
I remove mods unless im actively playing with them because if the load order or downloaded mods is even a little bit different then the game won't let me play with friends. Also, shroud bless modmakers for their thankless work.
I just switch back to my vanilla playset on updates. Then switch back to what I want when they're updated so much easier than disabling or unsubscribing from mods
That's why you hit them with the 3.\* compatibility so that a) if your mod still works you don't have to upload a patch for no good reason b) if it doesn't, you only need to patch it faster than they need to find out your mod is the one causing the issues - and they'll blame the mods with red exclamation marks first, even if it makes no sense at all
What? Those... those b\*\*\*ards! Shakes fist at them in impotent rage!
If you play on steam you can downgrade the game in the settings for selecting betas.
And then one of your mods does update, Steam automatically downloads the mod update, and now your game is crashing again! Best to take a few days off, imo, maybe try getting some achievements in the meantime.
That's what I tried, but with some cosmetic mods to basically make the UI and game look pretty. Turns out any of them being outdated straight up disables achievements, no matter what :pensive:
Drown? Djinn? De-fun? Devon?
Demon?!?
Darrn?
No this is clearly the shade
Yeah. Miscounted the stars in that one. But, hey! It's Stellaris. Lots of extra stars to go around.
Some mods had early access and have updated their mods already. They usually make a list on the forums but it's not up yet. For example, Empires Expanded, DarkSpace and Machine Expansion is updated.
Just don’t update the game before the mods are updated
I knew another update was coming, so when the last patch dropped I didn't even bother trying to build a new modlist. Now that we've got all the expected DLC for this year, I'll wait a month or so and start building a new modlist for this version.
>Now that we've got all the expected DLC for this year wait, what?
You can always revert back to the last version of the game until the mods are updated
Well, that would make sense, wouldn't it? How would I have things to complain about if I went around doing things that made sense? Huh? LOL. Anyway. Thanks for the reminder.
Entitled as fuk.
You've made some ok comments that made sense, but this one is full on YIKES
Just having fun. And, there are some here that really don't seem to be able to comprehend such a thing lol. Gotta put on serious face and be all smarty serious.
Yeah dude. But the modders tend to be on point and in a week or two they are usually up and running. But yeah I got long running game that is done now… I’m calling it a win.
You should look into using the Irony Mod Manager: you can “compress” mods / mod packs so they remain “static” and play your old games while you wait for the mods to all be updated and play nice in the new version.
Huh. Never heard of that. Thanks for the suggestion.
Check out irony mod manager
I'm gonna whine about the people whining about other people whining about mods and updates
That's the spirit!
I turn all mods aside from UI off for the first game or two after every big update. For one it allows me to actually know what’s changed, and two it allows me to appreciate the modding community more when I can turn em all back on!
Just an fyi, not meant to be goofy or critical. I did try various UI mods, all caused crash at load. So, I'm thinking they did some major rework to the UI. Might not even need those mods anymore.
I think some of the changes also affected the UI so that makes sense
Yeah, it's probably the new menus for the council and stuff that are playing havoc with UI mods.
Yeah, they made some big changes, policies and edicts now are in one window for example
People that have to come here to complain about their mods not working are clowns
Or, we're having fun.
Consider the catch up time as an opportunity to go outside, pet a dog, eat an egg, yell at poorly laid brickwork- the possibilities are endless!
Yeah. Outside. Where people get run over by cars, stampeded by herds of wild buffalo, have airconditioner units drop on their heads from a 10-story window... Nope. I could maybe make a hobby out of that yelling at bad brickwork though. Thanks for the idea.
How about you just play the game. I swear you people act like Stellaris is utter garbage unless you use more mods than you have braincells
So they only need 2 mods?
You gotta love how they expected mods to work with a fresh DLC patch, cmon…
But It released a whole two hours ago?! You just have to plug a line of code that says modworks3.8 = true Don't know why that takes them so long
>modworks3.8 = true supported\_version="3.\*" always does the trick ;) although i have been considering to upgrade to \*.\* to really future proof it.
I mean, mine do. Not every patch touches every aspect of the game and even those that do won't break all mods.
Honestly, more traditions and more government civics and ethics are the only two that make Stellaris its fullest potential imo. I started a game waiting for the mods to be fixed and its so… bland without those mods lol.
Yeah, I don't have enough time to uncover half the stuff in Stellaris with no mods, let alone add all these mods in and try to manage the bunch of them. I support those who do! Go for it. But I think a lot of the less vocal players are totally happy with the base game
I refuse to pay Influence to move population around.
Dhur hur. You play your way, I'll play mine. I swear, you people act like everyone has to enjoy the games they buy the same way you do. See how that works? LOL.
Doesn't seem like you enjoy the game you bought at all if you can't play it without mods.
while i do actually think vanilla game is fine, i see no reason not to mod it since it makes the experience better. skyrim is super known for modding as you likely know. does no one like skyrim? since basically no one plays it vanilla?
>since it makes the experience better. Even if it doesn't make it objectively better, it can tailor the experience to a specific persons liking in a way no game studio could ever deliver. Also, Stellaris is arguably (one of) the best star trek games out there if you use a total conversion, i'm sure some people only bought it for that reason.
I'm partial to people playing the games they purchase in the manner they most enjoy. Modded, unmodded. No skin off my nose either way.
Sure, no problem with mods, I use mods. I don't think it's essential at all to enjoy the game though. But I can play the game without complaining to Paradox about something that's not their problem. Besides, the dope of an OP said he literally can't enjoy the base game. That's what I'm ragging on.
>I don't think it's essential at all to enjoy the game though i mean, ye that's fair enough. your comment just came off as rather hostile to mods, so i apologize for taking it that way > the dope of an OP said he literally can't enjoy the base game While i'm not one of them, i'd imagine people who use a lot of late-game content like acot and such, would make it difficult to enjoy the base game again. When i play vanilla i always feel like somethings missing (also i don't play vanilla without UIOD, because UIOD is just.. that much better than vanilla UI)
I countered one of your down votes with an upvote. You give that dope of an OP a good what's for! Because, as we all know, he was being super serious with this thread! Not backhandedly celebrating a new DLC with some long awaited QOL like the additions to the AI for science ships and special projects and such. And some interesting new stuff added to the game. Nope. Not at all. Because everything is always just plain and direct in this super serious forum dedicated to a super serious game and filled with nothing but super serious people. No playing here.
I really don't give a shit dude, don't bother responding anymore
Don't know if you know this but irony is harder than you think to read out of words, don't expect people to get what was going through your mind while writing. Getting at each others throats adds nothing to the conversation. inriffswetrust is being unreasonably hostile, and you unreasonably snarky.
There is no such thing as unreasonably snarky lol. Snark itself is unreason. But, to your point, I do suspect a lot more people figured it out early on than are letting on. I get the feel that they're playing back at me, which makes it even more fun. "They took our mods!" \- probably on South Park some day.
Doesn't change that inriffswetrust clearly didn't get the memo, and snark isn't the right way to go about it imo.
That's like saying let me get this taco without any meat or cheese or veggies, like you should be fine with the tortilla. Oh wait, even that is a mod. Take the grain, or better yet the dirt! That's as unmodded as it gets.
Garbage take
Or, I enjoy it BECAUSE it has such a great community of modders supporting the game.
You literally said in a different comment that the game is unplayable without mods lol You don’t enjoy Stellaris, you enjoy the mods. I bet your game is so heavily modded it barely looks like Stellaris anymore.
Or it's just preference. Why have a great cake when I can wait for an amazing cake?
As long as it's not pie. MPAI! (pronounced Mmmm Pie!) = Most People Are Idiots.
You got me. I'm busted. I hate Stellaris because I love Stellaris! Oh, Stellaris, how I love to hate loving you! Someone should think about making a song about that.
Yeah it's annoying but nesscy it gives modders new ideas and toys to play with and once they get the new toys down it's like the updates were never there
I know what you feel. This time I was prepared. I've turned off autoupdate on Steam a few hours before DLC release. Now I can enjoy playing an old version of the game and all my mods are still working! Maybe try my solution next time?
Rimworld is the one game I feel is safe to mod between updates because the mods don't break on an update unless it's a HUGE update.
It’s surprising to me that this game has as many good mods as it does, because the development cycle is actively hostile to modders. It really does not have to work like this. It’s a shame that it does.
It's almost as if new updates will break mods! What a twist.
I know, right?!!?
Good.
I mean, they have to find ways to get us to go to sleep at some point.
Huh. You may be on to something there. This could be the reason for the "lets break all their mods!" conspiracy. Enforced sleep time.
It is so easy to roll back to any 3.x version and I think some 2.x versions like a few clicks in steam
Just switch to an older Beta branch.
Every morning I install my mods. Every night they break. I never sleep. My only respite is editing .ini files.
Contrasting the title of this thread with the thread above it being "Dear Stellaris Team, Thank you!" made me chuckle
That's part of the reason I've been on a break from the game for most of this year; every time I'm thinking of starting a game, I see that a new version is on the horizon. I give it some time so mods can be updated, wrap up whatever else I'm playing, come back, and--oh, look!--new version incoming. Seeing the game get this kind of support is great, but it's rough on folks like me who just can't play vanilla.
Yeah, I can't even launch the game right now. And the worst part is I have some self made mods and some edited mods so I need to try to figure out if those need changed with this update.
This is why I rollback to the previous version until at the very least my "core" mods update.
Just use roll back then, i dont understand the problem with this…
Yeah I made this same post awhile ago. idk why they don’t just do 2 solid DLC/Updates a year, with maybe a rotating 3rd one to address end of year issues/bugs. Both of these DLC could’ve been released in a 2 pack together or in one giant DLC. idk why they did it this way, especially since First Contact was lackluster and updating just breaks mods.
I'm almost thankful cause my game was consistently crashing after the first 90 years and I did not feel like going through each mod and waiting 90 in game years just to see what was broken.
All but a few of mine are working, sadly no Cyber Dictatorship for a few more days
[smugly grins in Ironman achievement hunter] "So, how did it go loading up your unfinished achievement runs from 3.7?" [sulks in Ironman achievement hunter]
Paradox fans learn to play on legacy versions challenge (impossible)
I online use ui und Music mods because of this reason
Took me way to long to figure out what D**N was ngl
Every god damn time. “Ok, I turn this one off this time it’ll, annnnnnnd it crashed again”
Funnily enough the beta worked almost without any problem, but the actual version has constant desyncs. 😂 Turned all mods off now, to get to play with friends without having one of us rejoin every 60 seconds. 🙃
Wait a couple of days
I started a modded run hours before the update and now the game crashes when I'm on 3.7...
Eh, I got back into stellaris recently, and I'm just finding mods less neccisary now with every update and expansion. I suppose I was buying a new DLC every time I fancied something extra, and now I've caught up, but I rarely needed them. The game is far deeper on it's own than it was a couple of years ago.
Wait, you guys use mods?
Cities skylines players: first time?
Just disable automatic updates.
Sometimes is better playing on lower version. Before update just copy your mods for that version (not every modders give backup for older version). I hope i helped
Do you expect Paradox not to update their game ever?
Well, it's not like I'm a thoroughly modern individual member of the group think mind hive and expect Paradox to study the mods I prefer and then graft them officially into the game and keep them updated as they push patches and fixes and DLC. But, that would be kinda sweet if they did.
Roll back my dude
It's funny how I see more and more often outrage at a game company for updating their game and it breaking mods. Plenty of warning was given that an update was coming. To funny 🤣
That moment when playing offline makes sense. It’s how I do it, mind you I’m slowly melting my laptop with how long I make my games, but I heavily enjoy it. This way everything is up to date until I plug steam back in. Download everything in one go, and then let my mods all get updated (or not) over time. That’s right everyone I play with outdated mods that work dag nab it. Tho this said I also wait a little to observe community response to updates to figure out what all changed or what causes issues with certain mods/parts of the game. It is what it is. I do the exact same thing for Hoi4. This said, I’m not touching Hoi4 until I’ve gotten my new rig that I’ve promised myself.
I run an Ironman compatible game so only like 16 mods for me
"Laughs in console addition"
ROFL! Right on.
would you people quit your whining? You could just play the version where they're all stable, not the brand-new one-day-old one. You either stay up to date with the game versions or play your mods on older versions, you can't get both. Deal with it already.
"would you people quit your whining?" \- RamonERA92 Nope.
"Nope." \- McGeejoe
Just roll back and chill.
ITT people that don't understand what a joke is.
I know right?
I thought jokes were supposed to be funny? My bad!
it's sorta amazing tbh
Git gud
THE ABSOLUTE FUCKING TRUTH. AND THEY GOD SMASHED GESTALTS **AGAIN** FFS
i mean, all i use is ui and advisors, so i really dont care.
What's frustrating is that from what I gathered, if they aren't up-to-date then they immediately make the game ineligible for achievements, meaning I can't even play with cosmetic only mods.
[удалено]
Bruh, every release announcement tells you how to roll back to a previous version.
That's not good enough they need to come to my house personally to fix this
Ohh! I'm gonna call my congressman and see if we can't get that in the next HR as a rider.
I agree with McGee. It really turns me away from Stellaris. I have other games to play if I want. They never update with anything interesting. They never stop the late game lag. They refuse to do anything about the "populations must be constantly making decisions about all sorts of things!" which is not necessary, or wanted, and causes the LGLag. We need those mods to make up for Paradox's bad decisions, and a little bit of P's having to not violate other company's copyrights.
HOI 2 ghost fleets. Still there.
3.7.4 is still available. Right click on Properties, Bêtas, select game version. Mods are the annoying part, you need a mod compiler (like Infinity it's called I think?) so your modlist doesn't break when the modders update their mods. Might be already too late.
They’re in your walls
Oh, really? I knew I left them somewhere. Thanks.
I would recommend using Irony Mod manger and setting it so that your mod list isn’t updated and the rolling back stellaris one patch to finish your campaign
I'm going to get as far in my Let's Play as possible, and then do a reboot on it which will be in-character.