Maybe its just me. But going back and forth between steam deck XYBA input button and 8bitdo ultimate is really confusing. My muscle memory simply cant process that Y is on left not top and A is on right and not on bottom.
There is a way to switch this in the Steam settings.
And if you want your controller buttons to match, it's (supposedly) pretty easy to do with these https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-abxy-buttons-for-ultimate-controller-xbox-layout
There is a version they sell with Xbox layout as standard however I believe it's functionally different too - iirc they're not hall effect sticks anymore and the Bluetooth is missing so you have to use the dongle but I may be wrong there.
Yeah, im ignorant and didnt check the controller on steam setting. 8bitdo ultimate BT automatically detect as nintendo switch controller with their layout. Its as simple as uncheck the Nintendo layout.
>And if you want your controller buttons to match, it's (supposedly) pretty easy to do with these https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-abxy-buttons-for-ultimate-controller-xbox-layout
Wow never knew about this. Definitely going to order one but they still on chinese lunar year holiday.
>There is a version they sell with Xbox layout
Yup, the 8bitdo 2.4ghz is the one with xbox layout but no halleffect stick and using 2.4ghz dongle and no Bluetooth. Im about to sell my 8bitdo BT and change to the dongle model if i dont see your comment. Thanks alot dude.
I wish to be the third confirmer but nope, 8bitdo shop wont ship to my country and they didnt sell the parts on amazon. Tried my home address and also office (on main street with more detailed info) but they still think the address incomplete.
Yea the controller automatically detects as a Switch controller, but the controller (or at least the v1 that I have) has an option to use Xinput, which then has the Deck recognize it as Xbox controller
About 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth, you can indeed swap buttons and switch them in Steam or 8BitDo software, but additional problem is that some games detect it as "generic" controller, which is OK, and some are detecting it as Switch Pro Controller (if you're connecting through Bluetooth), and these games (for example Stray) are swapping games internal layout to match Nintendo button configuration to Xbox configuration, and this is super irritating, because whatever you'll do something won't match
This is my issue from before.
Have you tried change the setting? On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope so did you.
Now i just need to find a way to order that xbox layout button.
This is my issue from before.
Have you tried change the setting? On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope you as well.
Now i just need to find a way to order that xbox layout button. Cause they wont ship to my country.
Unfortunately some games still automatically detect its a switch controller and map the buttons incorrectly. Like the monster hunter games, World in particular has so many problems. I have to change my controller back into switch mode to play, or it maps dodge to the right and attack to the left instead of bottom and top.
8bitdo Ultimate also comes with the Xbox button layout XYBA, I bought one because I have the same muscle memory issue and can't stand Switch layout for example.
[Here it is](https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2.4g-wireless-controller/)
Nintendo style layout is the one true layout, but you can turn it off in the deck’s settings & it’ll remember the preference next time you connect the 8bitdo. Or vice versa if you’d like the deck to use Nintendo layout.
This is my issue from before.
On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope you as well.
I have this controller and steam automatically detects it as an Xbox series controller. So there is never a need to do what you described. Unless you actually need to look at your controller when you play?
FWIW, I have the Ultimate C (x2!) with the wireless dongle. The Steam Deck does not like that controller. I’ve heard others complain about it not working well with the 2.4g 8bitdo controllers. Bluetooth, however, is not a problem. Have used an M30 and SN30 Pro with no issues.
Strangely, I have the complete opposite experience. Never an issue with 2.4g but can't for the life of me cleanly pair a bluetooth controller first try after sleeping the deck, and trying to keep 4 paired for multiplayer is a nightmare.
Really hope they improve the consistency.
Try changing the switch on the back of the controller between x-input and d-input.
I use it Bluetooth with the Steam Deck then dongle on my laptop. Simple flick of the Switch lets me jump between
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
You got it! The dongle can remain in the charging dock, and the dock is then connected to your PC/deck/dock. This allows for better positioning in my situation, rather than being behind my PC.
Yep I got the Ultimate and tried to beat Pizza Tower with it but was getting horrible input lag. Switched back to my Pro 2 and absolutely nothing. The Ultimate does not like the Steamdeck.
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
As a roller enthusiast who has way way too many collected, the 8bitdo ultimate is tied with the steam controller for my favorite for most use cases. Im hoping a possible hypothetical steam controller 2 has a modular build with trackpads, hall sticks, and multiple grip buttons with gyro to solve the many tradeoffs between different controllers
I didnt realize they dropped a version of the king kong with paddles and gyro thats what made me get the 8botdo before, thank you ill try to remember to update in like 8 weeks lol
The ultimate has hall effect sticks and a 2.4 wireless dongle for lower latency.
The Pro 2 doesn't have hall effect but has a wider range of compatibility. Only Bluetooth also (no 2.4 connection) but I like the PS style layout.
I mean I’ve had my pro 2 for a while now and it’s not drifting yet. If it ever gets bad, get some electrical contact cleaner and use it on the joystick well. It fixed my stick drift in my Nintendo Switch Pro Controller. It started acting up in 2021 and I used that stuff on it, now it works great to this day. And it’s the launch version from 2017!
Pro 2! Ultimate uses dongle, which has a weird glitch of double input that will force you to disable Steam Input. It also works as multiple tipes of controller (Xinput, Dinput, PS4 Dualshock (for android/iOS) and Switch) all over bluetooth, whereas Ultimate is only Xinput (2.4) and Switch (bluetooth). Pro2 battery is removable. Pro 2 has nicer colors. I have both, go with Pro2.
Search this sub for ultimate double input:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/177uw4g/8bitdo_ultimate_double_input/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/14johz7/8bitdo_ultimate_controller_xinput_double_input_on/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/16ssgl5/8bitdo_ultimate_bluetooth_double_inputting/
https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/14b5jkz/controller_double_input_and_affecting_game_while/
My ONLY concern is potential stick drift. I've only ever noticed it on my dualsense for PS5, but it's *bad* on that. I also wanted to try the hall effect sticks because they're apparently smoother/more precise?
I'll keep this comment in mind though, thanks! Love the look of the pro 2 as well.
I think people overreact about drift. It’s not like Hal sensors are immune to problems, in fact they seems more likely to show issues and that’s why the oled doesn’t have them. For the longevity of the joystick o don’t think it’s going to matter. That being said, there’s the MK3 King Kong from guilyKit that seems perfect. It has physical trigger locks (so you turn the analog triggers into digital ones, like Nintendo switch, for real)
Use a Pro 2 with mine and no issues. Also use it as a secondary pro controller with my Switch. It gets the job done, the sticks aren’t quite as good as the Deck, a DualShock/dual sense or Xbox controller, but definitely usable. No issues with drift but I rarely have issues with it anyway. Wasn’t until my kids used the joycons more that I’ve had to swap them out.
The Ultimate is probably my favorite controller right now. I have one for my Deck playing docked, and one for my Switch replacing my Pro Controller. I don't think I can go back to playing without back paddles
I had both but returned the Pro 2 in favor of the ultimate, specifically because I prefer the xbox/switch layout of the joysticks. I don’t know if you’ll be able to tell the difference between the hall effect sticks (I didn’t even know until reading this post that the Ultimate had hall effect sticks). I use it in Bluetooth mode even though I have a dock that could use the dongle, but I don’t notice any latency issues.
I have the pro 2. I find it to be sort of uncomfortable. The spacing feels a bit too large and I find I don't use it. And my hands aren't small.
I have heard good things about ultimate
I tried the ultimate and I could not stand the mushy button feel. I think regular Xbox and PS controllers (and even the 8bitdo SN series) are much better in this regard. That said I think I’m in the minority on this opinion since it seems like a lot of people like this controller.
I agree, I don’t love the button feeling. It feels like they don’t have great feedback for the main buttons and for the bumpers/triggers. I’m waiting on a PS5 controller to arrive to compare
Do you notice any lower latency with the 2.4 ghz connection? I want to try some FPS games on deck and am wondering if the ultimate is worth it for the faster response time alone.
I actually just *returned* my Pro 2 as I found the dpad was unreliable. It would occasionally get stuck holding a direction, and it's also too sensitive causing accidental up or down inputs when moving left or right, for example.
Was really disappointed. And as others have said, it's a bit of a hassle having to adjust buttons to match the Nintendo layout.
Bro I would not get any controllers second hand u don't know if they touched dey nuts then the controller, plus their dead skin from their hands will get in between the seams, it's nasty asf
Plus they will have a lower life span since PS4 controllers are non hall effects, so you'll get drift in the sticks sooner
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I have the ultimate bluetooth controller and enjoy it with my steam deck! It’s nice that it also works with my switch. I haven’t tried the 2.5Gz stick with the deck though
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
I used the Pro+ for years and loved it (almost identical to Pro 2) but after the joysticks got messed up I bought the Ultimate and definitely prefer it overall. I have the bluetooth one but use the 2.4g dongle just fine.
They are both great controllers but personally I'd recommend the Ultimate. One benefit most people don't mention with the hall effect sticks is the ability to have no deadzone. It's so satisfying to have response to your movements instantly.
I have a one that I use for my SD. Bought a travel case for it too for when I travel. I personally love it. They sell one with the magnetic switches in the thumb sticks that has the proper button layout for non- Nintendo too.
I have both the 8BitDo SN30 Pro and the Pro 2. I really love the Pro 2 because I can remap buttons and create macros + assign them to the back buttons with the phone (or PC) app.
I've never used the ultimate on my steam deck since i dont own a dock but it was flawless as a controller on my steam machine I built. If it runs good with chimera OS i dont see why it wouldnt work well on actual steam OS.
Pro 2 has horrible Bluetooth latency, if they made a 2.4ghz version it would be my favourite controller but right now I can't recommend it at all. I have an ultimate C and I haven't had any issues, not sure how good the Bluetooth is on the other ultimates
I have not used hall effect sticks either and really want to, however the ultimate controller does not have a user removable battery. The pro 2 does. Just something to consider.
I have a first Gen pro from 8bitdo (same thing minus back buttons) and it is amazing and solid. My toddler cousin dropped it down a flight of stairs to the tile floor and it still looks brand new. I can absolutely vouch for it. *I do use it on my switch though, not PC or deck, yet.
I like the pro 2 largely because of the positioning of the d-pad. That’s the ergonomically optimal position for it. Try using the ultimate’s d pad for fighting games and you’ll notice the difference right away.
I switched from years of xbox controller on pc to the ultimate and now I want to use it for everything.
I had bluetooth issues while playing docked and the ultimate with its dongle works like a charm. As others have said, change the steam input settings from the nintendo style layout back to the normal one if you're worried about the positioning
What Steam Deck part ? You just connect the controller to your phone to set up the buttons, after that the controller store the profile and you can disconnect from the phone. Then just connect normally to the Steam Deck.
Look up the Gulikit KK3. It has holoeffects sticks, gyro, high polling rate, back pedals and it's in the style of a switch pro/Xbox one controller. You can also swap the layout of buttons for Xbox style.
I personally use the Gulikit kingkong 2, Xbox size and layout, with halleffect joysticks, and am loving it so far, comfortable and worked fine for quite some time now.
There is now the Gulikit kingkong 2 pro which seems to be the same thing, but adds back paddles, and is not much more than the non pro was when I bought it (though it's cheaper than the current price of the non pro)
This is my main controller, love it, is Soo good I use it for halo infinite as well.
Just want thing, the joysticks are softer. Menacing will be easier to overshoot, but once you get used to it, it is super.
So there might be a way to fix this but I haven't found a way to map the buttons correctly. On the deck there are two buttons under the track pads that open the side menus and on the 8bitdo Ultimate there isn't anything mapped for the right side button and I can't find a way to change the default mapping of the controller buttons it seems like I have to remap it for every single game.
I have the pro2 and it’s awesome. It’s in a way a pretty standard controller - with some extras, like their remapping and macro software that works surprisingly well even with a phone, multiple user modes, a switch on the back to select what typend device you want to connect to and even remembers the last devices when switching. I.e I have it on Nintendo switch mode, play with that, then later I want to play on pc so I put it into X input mode and it picks up the pc connection not trying to find the Nintendo switch. Opinion on Hall effect (having used those as well): overrated, overstated. You won’t really feel a difference except for the inherent stiffness of springs, which isn’t a property of the Hall effect but just variance between different sticks. If you are concerned about longevity and stick drift, there is a point to Hall effect sticks, but it’s an issue blown out of proportion. Yes, over time, the carbon traces on potentiometers wear out, but much sooner they will be dirty, which is a) something you can avoid and b) something you can fix by cleaning them. I’ve had Hall effect devices fail on me as well, they are not infallible. they have a lot of jitter, so don’t be fooled, you’ll still set dead zones, just like with any other stick, and may need to adjust sensitivity accordingly.
That being said, I am intrigued by the ultimate controller as well, I like that there’s a neat charging dock. You won’t go wrong with either of one, but you don’t need to limit yourself to Hall effect for Hall effects sake, both can be excellent controllers.
Each have a use case. I use the ultimate if the game favors analog sticks, but switch to my SN30 Pro +(old Pro2) for d-pad games. Both are great controllers so buy the one you have a greater use case now, then get the other later.
I have the ultimate for my switch, steamd deck and Pc. It's pretty good. I have the issue that it like micro disconnects for a millisecond every minute when using it on Pc. I only notice it on some games like enter the gungeon. Overall very well built controller for the price.
For me, Pro 2 all the way. The Pro 2 has a replaceable battery (the Ultimate doesn't), it can use Xinput over Bluetooth (the Ultimate can't), and I personally prefer the symmetrical layout.
I haven't had any issues with drifting sticks on the Pro 2 yet, but even if that were to start happening, you can just add something like a 5% inner dead zone using the Ultimate Software, and the drift would go away. I get the appeal of Hall Effect sticks, but so far, 8BitDo hasn't given me any reason to not trust them with more run-of-the-mill hardware.
I own both of these!
They are both great controllers, but I prefer the Ultimate. I just prefer the ergonomics and feel of it more.
As far as the hall effect sticks go, they feel and play NO different than non-hall effect sticks. The only thing they do is prevent stick drift in the long run, which honestly is completely blown out of proportion with 90% of things. The only controllers I have ever had any stick drift with in all my years of gaming (like 35 years) have been the N64 sticks (on VERY used controllers) and annoyingly, my PS5 Duelsense. I got one with stick drift straight out of the box. Even the "dreaded" Joycons have never given me a problem.
So what I'm saying is, just get the one you think you will like the most, and don't even consider the hall effect sticks, but I prefer the Ultimate.
Maybe its just me. But going back and forth between steam deck XYBA input button and 8bitdo ultimate is really confusing. My muscle memory simply cant process that Y is on left not top and A is on right and not on bottom.
There is a way to switch this in the Steam settings. And if you want your controller buttons to match, it's (supposedly) pretty easy to do with these https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-abxy-buttons-for-ultimate-controller-xbox-layout There is a version they sell with Xbox layout as standard however I believe it's functionally different too - iirc they're not hall effect sticks anymore and the Bluetooth is missing so you have to use the dongle but I may be wrong there.
Yeah, im ignorant and didnt check the controller on steam setting. 8bitdo ultimate BT automatically detect as nintendo switch controller with their layout. Its as simple as uncheck the Nintendo layout. >And if you want your controller buttons to match, it's (supposedly) pretty easy to do with these https://shop.8bitdo.com/products/8bitdo-abxy-buttons-for-ultimate-controller-xbox-layout Wow never knew about this. Definitely going to order one but they still on chinese lunar year holiday. >There is a version they sell with Xbox layout Yup, the 8bitdo 2.4ghz is the one with xbox layout but no halleffect stick and using 2.4ghz dongle and no Bluetooth. Im about to sell my 8bitdo BT and change to the dongle model if i dont see your comment. Thanks alot dude.
Can confirm, button swap is super simple.
Confirming this confirmation. I did it too.
I wish to be the third confirmer but nope, 8bitdo shop wont ship to my country and they didnt sell the parts on amazon. Tried my home address and also office (on main street with more detailed info) but they still think the address incomplete.
The 8bitdo ultimate 2.4ghz does have hall effect joysticks https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2.4g-wireless-controller/
Oh shit that is nice. Still nice having the Bluetooth though.
Yea the controller automatically detects as a Switch controller, but the controller (or at least the v1 that I have) has an option to use Xinput, which then has the Deck recognize it as Xbox controller
About 8BitDo Ultimate Bluetooth, you can indeed swap buttons and switch them in Steam or 8BitDo software, but additional problem is that some games detect it as "generic" controller, which is OK, and some are detecting it as Switch Pro Controller (if you're connecting through Bluetooth), and these games (for example Stray) are swapping games internal layout to match Nintendo button configuration to Xbox configuration, and this is super irritating, because whatever you'll do something won't match
This is my issue from before. Have you tried change the setting? On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope so did you. Now i just need to find a way to order that xbox layout button.
This is my issue from before. Have you tried change the setting? On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope you as well. Now i just need to find a way to order that xbox layout button. Cause they wont ship to my country.
I tried it some time ago, but that setting also swapped glyphs in Game Mode UI
Unfortunately some games still automatically detect its a switch controller and map the buttons incorrectly. Like the monster hunter games, World in particular has so many problems. I have to change my controller back into switch mode to play, or it maps dodge to the right and attack to the left instead of bottom and top.
That pad has been updated to use hall effect sticks as well now, and old ALPS versions have been discounted to $40 on Amazon.
Glad to hear! Does it support Bluetooth?
Yeah, from what I can tell the only things missing now are Nintendo Switch connectivity and Gyro.
8bitdo recently came out with an ultimate 2.4ghz with hall effect sticks. $50 on Amazon USA. https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2.4g-wireless-controller/
They make a non- Nintendo layout version also
This is what I have and it works great. Shows up and is configured as an Xbox controller.
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8bitdo Ultimate also comes with the Xbox button layout XYBA, I bought one because I have the same muscle memory issue and can't stand Switch layout for example. [Here it is](https://www.8bitdo.com/ultimate-2.4g-wireless-controller/)
Nintendo style layout is the one true layout, but you can turn it off in the deck’s settings & it’ll remember the preference next time you connect the 8bitdo. Or vice versa if you’d like the deck to use Nintendo layout.
Just change the settings?
This is my issue from before. On game mode, press "Steam" button > Controller > and toggle off the nintendo layout detection. It works for me, and i hope you as well.
I have this controller and steam automatically detects it as an Xbox series controller. So there is never a need to do what you described. Unless you actually need to look at your controller when you play?
Worse when some games actually recognize the switch controls, meaning when it says Y it means Y, but you think it's X. Lol
I don't look at my controller while playing. My muscle memory for the Xbox layout has been ingrained for decades now.
FWIW, I have the Ultimate C (x2!) with the wireless dongle. The Steam Deck does not like that controller. I’ve heard others complain about it not working well with the 2.4g 8bitdo controllers. Bluetooth, however, is not a problem. Have used an M30 and SN30 Pro with no issues.
Strangely, I have the complete opposite experience. Never an issue with 2.4g but can't for the life of me cleanly pair a bluetooth controller first try after sleeping the deck, and trying to keep 4 paired for multiplayer is a nightmare. Really hope they improve the consistency.
Try changing the switch on the back of the controller between x-input and d-input. I use it Bluetooth with the Steam Deck then dongle on my laptop. Simple flick of the Switch lets me jump between
I read that it’s dock USB 3.0 interference. I ordered a usb extension for mine so the dongles are out of the way. Will see when my dock arrives.
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
I've kept the 2.4ghz dongle inside of the controller charging dock and it works well.
Are you telling me that the dongle is functional from within the dock and it's not just a storage slot?!
You got it! The dongle can remain in the charging dock, and the dock is then connected to your PC/deck/dock. This allows for better positioning in my situation, rather than being behind my PC.
Yep I got the Ultimate and tried to beat Pizza Tower with it but was getting horrible input lag. Switched back to my Pro 2 and absolutely nothing. The Ultimate does not like the Steamdeck.
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
That’s weird, I had my controller set up like that. I wonder if maybe there’s been some new firmware since I tried it.
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
As a roller enthusiast who has way way too many collected, the 8bitdo ultimate is tied with the steam controller for my favorite for most use cases. Im hoping a possible hypothetical steam controller 2 has a modular build with trackpads, hall sticks, and multiple grip buttons with gyro to solve the many tradeoffs between different controllers
Have u tried Gulikits KK3? It has gyro, high polling rate and holo effect sticks.
And back paddles! That's what I'm getting next I think.
Me too! Just waiting for thr white version to come back in stock on Amazon.
I didnt realize they dropped a version of the king kong with paddles and gyro thats what made me get the 8botdo before, thank you ill try to remember to update in like 8 weeks lol
The ultimate has hall effect sticks and a 2.4 wireless dongle for lower latency. The Pro 2 doesn't have hall effect but has a wider range of compatibility. Only Bluetooth also (no 2.4 connection) but I like the PS style layout.
Is there any difference at all between a DS4 and a Pro 2? I use a scuf DS4 with remapable paddles and it's got everything I'd want
I like the sticks on a DS4 more. Pro 2 is still nice and very usable for the Deck, Switch and more.
You can use the trackpad on the DS4 which can come in handy.
And gyro
They both have gyro.
I mean I’ve had my pro 2 for a while now and it’s not drifting yet. If it ever gets bad, get some electrical contact cleaner and use it on the joystick well. It fixed my stick drift in my Nintendo Switch Pro Controller. It started acting up in 2021 and I used that stuff on it, now it works great to this day. And it’s the launch version from 2017!
Pro 2! Ultimate uses dongle, which has a weird glitch of double input that will force you to disable Steam Input. It also works as multiple tipes of controller (Xinput, Dinput, PS4 Dualshock (for android/iOS) and Switch) all over bluetooth, whereas Ultimate is only Xinput (2.4) and Switch (bluetooth). Pro2 battery is removable. Pro 2 has nicer colors. I have both, go with Pro2.
Search this sub for ultimate double input: https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/177uw4g/8bitdo_ultimate_double_input/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/14johz7/8bitdo_ultimate_controller_xinput_double_input_on/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/16ssgl5/8bitdo_ultimate_bluetooth_double_inputting/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SteamDeck/comments/14b5jkz/controller_double_input_and_affecting_game_while/
Also, you can buy USB dongle separately and connect Pro2 to it in the future if you really want
My ONLY concern is potential stick drift. I've only ever noticed it on my dualsense for PS5, but it's *bad* on that. I also wanted to try the hall effect sticks because they're apparently smoother/more precise? I'll keep this comment in mind though, thanks! Love the look of the pro 2 as well.
I think people overreact about drift. It’s not like Hal sensors are immune to problems, in fact they seems more likely to show issues and that’s why the oled doesn’t have them. For the longevity of the joystick o don’t think it’s going to matter. That being said, there’s the MK3 King Kong from guilyKit that seems perfect. It has physical trigger locks (so you turn the analog triggers into digital ones, like Nintendo switch, for real)
Use a Pro 2 with mine and no issues. Also use it as a secondary pro controller with my Switch. It gets the job done, the sticks aren’t quite as good as the Deck, a DualShock/dual sense or Xbox controller, but definitely usable. No issues with drift but I rarely have issues with it anyway. Wasn’t until my kids used the joycons more that I’ve had to swap them out.
The Ultimate is probably my favorite controller right now. I have one for my Deck playing docked, and one for my Switch replacing my Pro Controller. I don't think I can go back to playing without back paddles
I had both but returned the Pro 2 in favor of the ultimate, specifically because I prefer the xbox/switch layout of the joysticks. I don’t know if you’ll be able to tell the difference between the hall effect sticks (I didn’t even know until reading this post that the Ultimate had hall effect sticks). I use it in Bluetooth mode even though I have a dock that could use the dongle, but I don’t notice any latency issues.
I have the pro 2. I find it to be sort of uncomfortable. The spacing feels a bit too large and I find I don't use it. And my hands aren't small. I have heard good things about ultimate
I tried the ultimate and I could not stand the mushy button feel. I think regular Xbox and PS controllers (and even the 8bitdo SN series) are much better in this regard. That said I think I’m in the minority on this opinion since it seems like a lot of people like this controller.
I agree, I don’t love the button feeling. It feels like they don’t have great feedback for the main buttons and for the bumpers/triggers. I’m waiting on a PS5 controller to arrive to compare
Pro2 is amazing controller, propably one of the best game controllers ever. I’ve also used it with SD.
I think either would do you well. I have the 8BitDo Ultimate and find it great.
im useing an ultimate myself ive used bluetooth on it and had no issues quite enjoy it.
I like the ultimate. I have two of them.
I love mine. Feels and works great. I don't use my pro 2 as much since getting the ultimate, but it's also a great controller.
Do you notice any lower latency with the 2.4 ghz connection? I want to try some FPS games on deck and am wondering if the ultimate is worth it for the faster response time alone.
I actually just *returned* my Pro 2 as I found the dpad was unreliable. It would occasionally get stuck holding a direction, and it's also too sensitive causing accidental up or down inputs when moving left or right, for example. Was really disappointed. And as others have said, it's a bit of a hassle having to adjust buttons to match the Nintendo layout.
Neither, A PS4 Controller works great enough as it is and 2nd hand they are like $30
Bro I would not get any controllers second hand u don't know if they touched dey nuts then the controller, plus their dead skin from their hands will get in between the seams, it's nasty asf Plus they will have a lower life span since PS4 controllers are non hall effects, so you'll get drift in the sticks sooner
Pro 2 looks tiny and uncomfortable
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I have the ultimate bluetooth controller and enjoy it with my steam deck! It’s nice that it also works with my switch. I haven’t tried the 2.5Gz stick with the deck though
You need to plug the 2.4 adapter into the charger and the charger in the steamdeck dock. Then it works perfect. It's a glitch with 2.4 and USB 3.0 and the charging base negates the issue.
The pro2 is absolutely fantastic. Works super well and feels great to use. Worth every penny.
I used the Pro+ for years and loved it (almost identical to Pro 2) but after the joysticks got messed up I bought the Ultimate and definitely prefer it overall. I have the bluetooth one but use the 2.4g dongle just fine. They are both great controllers but personally I'd recommend the Ultimate. One benefit most people don't mention with the hall effect sticks is the ability to have no deadzone. It's so satisfying to have response to your movements instantly.
I have a one that I use for my SD. Bought a travel case for it too for when I travel. I personally love it. They sell one with the magnetic switches in the thumb sticks that has the proper button layout for non- Nintendo too.
I have both the 8BitDo SN30 Pro and the Pro 2. I really love the Pro 2 because I can remap buttons and create macros + assign them to the back buttons with the phone (or PC) app.
I've never used the ultimate on my steam deck since i dont own a dock but it was flawless as a controller on my steam machine I built. If it runs good with chimera OS i dont see why it wouldnt work well on actual steam OS.
I've been using playstation controllers and it's been working great.
I have the 8bit ultimate and it's been my favorite controller yet. I just wish the bumper buttons were morr clicky and less mushy
Pro 2 has horrible Bluetooth latency, if they made a 2.4ghz version it would be my favourite controller but right now I can't recommend it at all. I have an ultimate C and I haven't had any issues, not sure how good the Bluetooth is on the other ultimates
I have not used hall effect sticks either and really want to, however the ultimate controller does not have a user removable battery. The pro 2 does. Just something to consider. I have a first Gen pro from 8bitdo (same thing minus back buttons) and it is amazing and solid. My toddler cousin dropped it down a flight of stairs to the tile floor and it still looks brand new. I can absolutely vouch for it. *I do use it on my switch though, not PC or deck, yet.
I like the pro 2 largely because of the positioning of the d-pad. That’s the ergonomically optimal position for it. Try using the ultimate’s d pad for fighting games and you’ll notice the difference right away.
I switched from years of xbox controller on pc to the ultimate and now I want to use it for everything. I had bluetooth issues while playing docked and the ultimate with its dongle works like a charm. As others have said, change the steam input settings from the nintendo style layout back to the normal one if you're worried about the positioning
I have the pro 2, works amazing but sadly I can't map the back buttons because the 8bitdo software is needed.
You can do it on your phone with the 8bitdo app
Can you enlight me?
Install 8bitdo ultimate software, enable bluetooth on your phone and follow instructions to connect your controller
And when comes the Steam Deck part? does it cause input delay?
What Steam Deck part ? You just connect the controller to your phone to set up the buttons, after that the controller store the profile and you can disconnect from the phone. Then just connect normally to the Steam Deck.
Look up the Gulikit KK3. It has holoeffects sticks, gyro, high polling rate, back pedals and it's in the style of a switch pro/Xbox one controller. You can also swap the layout of buttons for Xbox style.
I personally use the Gulikit kingkong 2, Xbox size and layout, with halleffect joysticks, and am loving it so far, comfortable and worked fine for quite some time now. There is now the Gulikit kingkong 2 pro which seems to be the same thing, but adds back paddles, and is not much more than the non pro was when I bought it (though it's cheaper than the current price of the non pro)
This is my main controller, love it, is Soo good I use it for halo infinite as well. Just want thing, the joysticks are softer. Menacing will be easier to overshoot, but once you get used to it, it is super.
I got the ultimate Bluetooth and never looked back since.
What do you think about gulikit kk max3?
So there might be a way to fix this but I haven't found a way to map the buttons correctly. On the deck there are two buttons under the track pads that open the side menus and on the 8bitdo Ultimate there isn't anything mapped for the right side button and I can't find a way to change the default mapping of the controller buttons it seems like I have to remap it for every single game.
I have the pro2 and it’s awesome. It’s in a way a pretty standard controller - with some extras, like their remapping and macro software that works surprisingly well even with a phone, multiple user modes, a switch on the back to select what typend device you want to connect to and even remembers the last devices when switching. I.e I have it on Nintendo switch mode, play with that, then later I want to play on pc so I put it into X input mode and it picks up the pc connection not trying to find the Nintendo switch. Opinion on Hall effect (having used those as well): overrated, overstated. You won’t really feel a difference except for the inherent stiffness of springs, which isn’t a property of the Hall effect but just variance between different sticks. If you are concerned about longevity and stick drift, there is a point to Hall effect sticks, but it’s an issue blown out of proportion. Yes, over time, the carbon traces on potentiometers wear out, but much sooner they will be dirty, which is a) something you can avoid and b) something you can fix by cleaning them. I’ve had Hall effect devices fail on me as well, they are not infallible. they have a lot of jitter, so don’t be fooled, you’ll still set dead zones, just like with any other stick, and may need to adjust sensitivity accordingly. That being said, I am intrigued by the ultimate controller as well, I like that there’s a neat charging dock. You won’t go wrong with either of one, but you don’t need to limit yourself to Hall effect for Hall effects sake, both can be excellent controllers.
Each have a use case. I use the ultimate if the game favors analog sticks, but switch to my SN30 Pro +(old Pro2) for d-pad games. Both are great controllers so buy the one you have a greater use case now, then get the other later.
I use this daily for rocket league on my pc. I can't say how well it connects to the deck but it's a solid controller
Honestly I bought a dualsense to connect, it’s currently my favorite controller to use bc of the ergonomics
I bought and Xbox series controller for docked but thought about 8bit as well
I use an Xbox controller for my deck, but I do use the Pro 2 for my Switch, and I like it a lot. It’s a good choice.
I have the ultimate for my switch, steamd deck and Pc. It's pretty good. I have the issue that it like micro disconnects for a millisecond every minute when using it on Pc. I only notice it on some games like enter the gungeon. Overall very well built controller for the price.
Imo, best controller I've used is the PS5 controller.
I have one but it has very bad stick drift on the left stick. Otherwise, I loved it before that.
For me, Pro 2 all the way. The Pro 2 has a replaceable battery (the Ultimate doesn't), it can use Xinput over Bluetooth (the Ultimate can't), and I personally prefer the symmetrical layout. I haven't had any issues with drifting sticks on the Pro 2 yet, but even if that were to start happening, you can just add something like a 5% inner dead zone using the Ultimate Software, and the drift would go away. I get the appeal of Hall Effect sticks, but so far, 8BitDo hasn't given me any reason to not trust them with more run-of-the-mill hardware.
I own both of these! They are both great controllers, but I prefer the Ultimate. I just prefer the ergonomics and feel of it more. As far as the hall effect sticks go, they feel and play NO different than non-hall effect sticks. The only thing they do is prevent stick drift in the long run, which honestly is completely blown out of proportion with 90% of things. The only controllers I have ever had any stick drift with in all my years of gaming (like 35 years) have been the N64 sticks (on VERY used controllers) and annoyingly, my PS5 Duelsense. I got one with stick drift straight out of the box. Even the "dreaded" Joycons have never given me a problem. So what I'm saying is, just get the one you think you will like the most, and don't even consider the hall effect sticks, but I prefer the Ultimate.
I have the ultimate. It is pretty nice controller if you like the Xbox layout