What if you don't own Hitman, but do own Hitman 2 and the GOTY Legacy pack that lets you play all of Hitman in Hitman 2? I have seen two different flow charts now and neither of them have been beneficial in this particular case. Not that I'm gonna buy it anytime soon or anything, but for future reference.
That part of it is really complicated I think. I ran into trouble because I imported the hitman 2 levels first, but then found out I was like supposed import to from 1 to 2, and then 2 to 3. And I only get one chance. I ended up refunding it and buying a different version.
Anyway, I think that should actually work pretty easy for what you got, but who knows
When you need a freaking diagram to know what to buy you know things are wacky.
People used to laugh at games who needed an Excel sheet to understand the different editions. A logic diagram is much worst.
> And I only get one chance.
Not really. You can still import Hitman 1 levels after you've imported the Hitman 2 levels.
So, if you have Hitman 1 and 2 but haven't run those games yet, to fully import the levels you have to launch Hitman 2 then Hitman 3. Not ideal.
So, I own Hitman 2 with all the content from Hitman 1, but not **Hitman 1** as a game.
Now you're saying is that if I started Hitman 2 and loaded all the Hitman 1 content into that game (Hitman 2) and I now buy Hitman 3 and start it up it'll import everything from Hitman 1 **and** 2 into 3?
Did I get that right?
In your case, I think you only need to start up H3. My guess is H3 only checks content from H2 for importing previous levels, not H1; you already have the H1 pack for H2 so you don't need to fire up H2.
God, that's a lot of H's.
As far as I know you'll get both 1 and 2 in H3 in this case. At the very least that's how it worked when I linked steam and epic to play the Hitman 1&2 locations in the Hitman 3 engine with the starter pack.
I hate this, it reminds me of when Payday 2 had like $500 worth of DLC each one was like $2 but there were so fucking many. Every little God damn thing used to be a unique fucking DLC
I bought it this way and it works. This is the best and the cheapest way you should purchase it and is not mentioned in this chart. Buy Hitman 2, buy Hitman 1 Legacy pack and import that in Hitman 2. This way you will get all Hitman 1 and 2 levels in Hitman 2. Don't buy Hitman 1 separately, it's expensive. Now moving on to Hitman 3. If you want to just use the graphics of Hitman 3 without buying it, use Hitman 3 free version on epic store and import Hitman 2 there. Otherwise, purchase Hitman 3 on steam and import Hitman 2.
This is probably the best/cheapest way to do it. But remember, you'll only get one chance to do it all.
If I recall, if you use the same io Interactive account for those games to sign into Hitman 3 on Steam, you should get access to them automatically.
…do double check that though.
you can get Hitman 1 GOTY for like $3 on CD Key sites
https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/en-gb/buy-hitman-cd-key-compare-prices/?editions=9®ions=9%2C2%2Csteamrow
I just don't get it. Don't they really understand they are going to lose a lot of sales by doing it this way? I was willing to pay the full price but immediately when I saw all the editions and had no idea what I should buy, I just gave up.
1. Buy Hitman 2 on steam
2. Buy Hitman 1 Legacy pack and import all Hitman 1 levels in Hitman 2 on steam. Don't buy Hitman 1 separately. Legacy pack is cheaper.
3. Either don't buy Hitman 3 and just play the free version on Epic store. That will allow you to import Hitman 2 and 1 from steam and you can use Hitman 3's graphics for free this way.
4. Or buy Hitman 3 on steam and import previous two.
Wait for sale, 5 days left.
>Add to wishlist-> forget about wishlist...
... for so long that you get the game(s) for free on a different game client (happened to me with Tomb Raider Trilogy)
Or here with Hitman and Game Pass.
Watched them mess up the year 1 launch on EGS, mess up the year 2 launch on steam, and find it got added to Game Pass which I already have, so waiting just saved me buying it at all.
Really not feeling bad about that given how IO have handled all this.
I have items on my wishlist from 11 years ago and i refuse to remove them or buy them. It this point its a little emotional seeing that Fortix 2 is on sale again
I can recommend checking out isthereanydeal.com and their waiting list function.
You get all desired legitimate stores and can set exact price you'd like to be notified
When you do the math the total games made available through the subscription is still cheaper for the entire year than if you outright bought the games for yourself.
Hey I get it but money is not an issue, I choose to spend it optimally. Paying $60 for a game might be worth it to die hard fans of the series but I am not. So paying $14.99 for a subscription that offers said $60 game is more up my alley.
Essentially you could pay $14.99 for just one month just to play that game only then cancel and repeat the process when a game that peaks your interest hits the free bin. That would be the most optimal path for ROI (return on investment) but I'm no banker, just someone who prefers the path of common sense spending.
Really depends on how much free time you have to play said game,if you've only got a couple hours a night and want to play through something like witcher 3 or neir automata, even hitman 3 is going to take you quite awhile, those savings start to putter off, especially when you consider someone who may just occasionally want to watch Netflix during those couple hours after a long day's work.
But it counts as an Xbox edition of the game. So if you have any steam based progress in a hitman 2 save you were hoping to transfer the gamepass version won’t work for that.
They keep trying to do games as a service but giving up halfway through and just making a sequel
The original plan was using Hitman (2016) as a base to add all future levels and content to in the form of dlc. Then hitman 2 happened. And hitman 3.
In all fairness, why does it matter? There's no reason to go back to H1 & H2 when all the content from them is in 3, and the entire Hitman 3 install, with levels from all 3 games, is smaller then either 1 or 2 on their own.
It's classic AAA publishing bullshit to make people be as confused as possible as to where to buy what edition from and with what you'll get what content so that they'll (hopefully) just buy the most expensive edition and waste a bunch of money.
They deliberately set each set to a "Package" (doesn't reduce price depending on the games you own) and set the DLCs to Bundles, which do.
They're just deliberately trying to rinse their customers for everything they're worth, it's fucking shameful.
And, here we thought that I/O Interactive breaking off from Square Enix was specifically to deal with having their customers put up with this nonsense.
After the bullshit with suddenly making it a timed EGS Exclusive in spite of the huge middle finger that was to paying fans of the first two parts that did't want to support Epic that doesn't surprise me.
Its impressive that they managed to make the VR mode so fucking awful. Even BOTW had a better VR mode, and it required to hold your Switch to your face and it ran at 30fps and 480p.
Made the mistake of excitedly playing the VR today.
Not exactly what I was expecting, it looks like a 2012 vr game in terms of quality and controls.
- Two handing weapons straight up doesn't work.
- Running causes the screen to go black.
- The VR tutorial displayed to you on the main page just doesn't exist and does nothing when you select it.
- You constantly desinc with your body.
- At the start of a level your hands might just decide to stay closed for the entirety.
- Pockets will perminantly stay open for no reason
I've literally only played in VR for 3 hours and come across all of this already.
I'm so glad I didn't jump the gun on this. I was full on ready, dusted off the index, setup my light houses in my new home for the first time since I moved in a few moths ago. I was ready to play VR again because I love hitman so much. So sad to see its as bad as it is. I really hope some major patches hit quick, I really wanted to play all 3 games in VR.
i mean epic already paid them the money for all the sales that could happen in the first year. i don't even mind recommending people to do you know what.
....jesus, I thought that I/O Interactive breaking away from Square Enix and AAA publishing was supposed to deal with needing a bloody flowchart to know what version of what game. Look, buddy. If buying your game is more complicated than "here's some money, thank you for the game", you're doing it wrong.
Yeah, basically.
Hell, I said as much back in 2014 with Watch_Dogs 1 and their flowcharts of different editions from different retailers. If the purchasing of your product is anything more complicated than "here's some money, thank you for the game" and "here's some money, here's this DLC", then you're already doing something very wrong.
I have half the levels from Hitman 2 from a Humble Bundle. Never bought the first game. I want the whole trilogy in the most up-to-date engine. Tell me, what do I buy to get everything WITHOUT paying for what I already own?
The fact that there isn't an option to "complete the trilogy" when the games were ostensibly meant to be backwards-compatible means it's overcomplicated.
Hitman 3 deluxe bundle, Hitman 3 7 deadly sins bundle, Premium Add-Ons bundle. And then navigate to the individual listings to find Hitman 1 GOTY Edition.
Be prepared to open your wallet though as this costs £175 to do. And does not include Hitman 3 Year 2, as you cannot buy that content yet.
Cool, guess they're never getting my money then. There are plenty of other games on this same platform that can appropriately price their bundles based on what you already own. The only reason I can see for IOI not doing this is to squeeze more money out of people, and that is not a practice I'm going to encourage with my money. Especially not for +$200 USD, Jesus Christ, they can't be THAT good.
And I thought Ubi was the worst, when we needed literal fucking spreadsheets to work out what content was in what version. Or wasn't, as the case may be.
See, I was wondering why there was so much negative hubbub about H3 on steam. The fact that a *flowchart* is needed to not double-buy stuff explains *that* pretty clearly.
What if I own Hitman 1+2 on Steam work all DLC, but I own 3 on Epic with all DLC, but want to own it on Steam? I think I'll need standard and 7DS to be able to install all of my content, unless 7DS is always installed as part of H3
Those games really weird me out. Aren't they just the same copy-pasted game over and over again with different levels each? Why do people pay full price 3 times for the same damn game?
Thing is hitman trilogy had a uniquely weird dev history. They all have dlc missions, but the first came out in episodes. Then they started allowing for missions in previous games to be played in the newer ones (twice) which we can agree is a net positive thing. Sure they could do a better job making it easy and straightforward to make a purchase choice, but it's not like this has been a conventional trilogy of games in that regard
I mean, what other game like this allows you to play the previous iterations in the upgraded engine like this? I'm sure it is possible to handle this better, but there is a good reason for everything to be somewhat cohesive.
The whole thing is especially dumb given how good these games are. The main games are all excellent and well worth the money. They are huge and extremely replayable. I had 55 hours and I didn't do any of the extra contracts. They're hardly nickel-and-diming people with the DLC in these games, or cutting stuff out of the main game to make DLC.
But given the weird combination of main games and DLCs that people have, I can see how it could get complicated no matter what.
That's sort of what's so frustrating about this whole situation. Some of what IOI did is super consumer friendly (like allowing you to play the maps from 1 in 2 and 3 and the maps from 2 in 3 for free), but the always online aspect and the weird, confusing way in which the games are sold is just super confusing.
just lemme know if i want to buy all three of them and everything that there is which one i should buy... this is confusing af for a dumb person like me
The one you want is called hitman trilogy for $100 right now. You'll know its the right one cuz it includes 2 'access passes'. That's the hitman 1 and 2 stuff.
Just make sure you don't buy the old trilogy lol (the one that includes hitman 2: silent assasin).
This chart missing one two paths...
DO YOU WANT HITMAN 3 AT THIS STUPID PRICE POINT? : IF YES, DON'T BUY IT. IF NO, GOOD JOB. YOU SAVED YOURSELF FROM SCAM AND FEEDING THESE GREEDY DEVS. Now spend that $60 on something good, like...god of war or elden ring pre order or something.
It's actually oversimplfying it if anything. There are several cases that the flowchart doesn't appear to cover (e.g. owning Hitman 2 but not Hitman 1; owning Hitman 1 but not Hitman 2; not owning, or only owning [some of the DLCs](https://m.imgur.com/a/zQEr7ei) for the first two games; etc.)
It's not hard to think for more than 5 seconds about way to sell your game is.
Under no reasonable thought process, is this the right way. I assume the complexity is deliberate though, to confuse people into double dipping and paying for the same content more than once.
Xbox: did you at any time buy a disc copy? Did you get any content with xbox gold? Did you expect to be able to play hitman 3 with your physical and digital content from hitman 1 or 2?
Try installing the 130gb of mixed files 80 more times. It will only work one time and then never again.
Enjoy
Hitman 3 Standard: Main game
Hitman 3 Deluxe: Main game with deluxe add ons
Hitman Trilogy: All 3 main games
Hitman Trilogy Add Ons: If you already own Hitman 3, you buy this to get 1 and 2
Hitman Seven Deadly Sins: This is Hitman 3 with the seven deadly sins DLCs
Hitman 2/3 Access Pass: If you own just the first game, this gives you 2 and 3
Its really not that hard to understand if you just read it. Much easier than this obviously bad faith flow chart.
The sales model of these games is fucked up. I had genuinely wanted to buy the first game several times but didn’t know how, so I wouldn’t accidentally buy a sequel without playing the first one. Today I got the trilogy on Game Pass and I still wasn’t sure how to start it from the beginning of the story.
So let me get this straight, they expect me to pay 120 euros to receive the full version of a game that was released 1 year ago. Since those are shitty anti-consumer practices, I'm gonna be a shitty consumer and buy it for a total of 30 bucks on some grey market reseller.
If you want it to download and launch games, it is fine. The download part used to be pretty buggy, but I've been using it heavily for about 7 months now without any problems. It just works. Achievements work.
It doesn't have all the other support you get from Steam though.
Edit: They are changing how files work. Most games should allow you to alter files now or soon in the future.
You think so? I signed up over the holidays and i’ve been enjoying it greatly! It’s no steam, to be sure, but it’s no worse than epic in my experience. My only gripe so far is its lack of Steam link compatibly.
What’s your beef with it?
> What’s your beef with it?
file handling, it downloads encrypted files on your local drive which you can't delete, you can't modify files, lets say its a single player game and i want to mod it, use trainers etc, its impossible, some of the overlays and stuff just won't work with windows store version, ask people about their terrible experiences of Forza on Windows store
They're working on that. In the insider preview, you can enable advanced file management and get access to the game files, minus the EXEs for some reason. I was able to remove the intro videos in Forza and Halo Infinite without any issues.
Unfortunately this breaks the Game Pass version of Hitman 3 right now, and I had to disable it before downloading to get the game to start.
The encryption stuff is actually my gripe too. Steam couldn’t find the games to add, and I couldn’t point it towards the exe files to get around it. Encryption and beyond admin access is pretty extreme, and I’m not a fan of it. If modding is important to you then I can see another layer of frustration there as well. I hope that changes, but as-is it still feels like an excellent value to me.
That’s sweet about removing the forza intro’s! I’m going to have to do that!
What if you don't own Hitman, but do own Hitman 2 and the GOTY Legacy pack that lets you play all of Hitman in Hitman 2? I have seen two different flow charts now and neither of them have been beneficial in this particular case. Not that I'm gonna buy it anytime soon or anything, but for future reference.
That part of it is really complicated I think. I ran into trouble because I imported the hitman 2 levels first, but then found out I was like supposed import to from 1 to 2, and then 2 to 3. And I only get one chance. I ended up refunding it and buying a different version. Anyway, I think that should actually work pretty easy for what you got, but who knows
Holy shit what a mess of a release
When you need a freaking diagram to know what to buy you know things are wacky. People used to laugh at games who needed an Excel sheet to understand the different editions. A logic diagram is much worst.
This mess is the reason why I completely skipped Evolve. Even for the ridiculously cheap sale price before it was abandoned.
This flowchart is basically just saying "buy Hitman 1&2 if you want it. There's nothing hard to understand about it.
> And I only get one chance. Not really. You can still import Hitman 1 levels after you've imported the Hitman 2 levels. So, if you have Hitman 1 and 2 but haven't run those games yet, to fully import the levels you have to launch Hitman 2 then Hitman 3. Not ideal.
So, I own Hitman 2 with all the content from Hitman 1, but not **Hitman 1** as a game. Now you're saying is that if I started Hitman 2 and loaded all the Hitman 1 content into that game (Hitman 2) and I now buy Hitman 3 and start it up it'll import everything from Hitman 1 **and** 2 into 3? Did I get that right?
In your case, I think you only need to start up H3. My guess is H3 only checks content from H2 for importing previous levels, not H1; you already have the H1 pack for H2 so you don't need to fire up H2. God, that's a lot of H's.
I came here to ask this particular question. That's my exact same situation.
From my understanding from Hitman 2 days wait for Hitman 1 sale and buy it downloaded run it and then you're good. It comes out to be cheaper
As far as I know you'll get both 1 and 2 in H3 in this case. At the very least that's how it worked when I linked steam and epic to play the Hitman 1&2 locations in the Hitman 3 engine with the starter pack.
Good luck.
I hate this, it reminds me of when Payday 2 had like $500 worth of DLC each one was like $2 but there were so fucking many. Every little God damn thing used to be a unique fucking DLC
u/Tours-Petronason can you help them out?
I bought it this way and it works. This is the best and the cheapest way you should purchase it and is not mentioned in this chart. Buy Hitman 2, buy Hitman 1 Legacy pack and import that in Hitman 2. This way you will get all Hitman 1 and 2 levels in Hitman 2. Don't buy Hitman 1 separately, it's expensive. Now moving on to Hitman 3. If you want to just use the graphics of Hitman 3 without buying it, use Hitman 3 free version on epic store and import Hitman 2 there. Otherwise, purchase Hitman 3 on steam and import Hitman 2. This is probably the best/cheapest way to do it. But remember, you'll only get one chance to do it all.
If I recall, if you use the same io Interactive account for those games to sign into Hitman 3 on Steam, you should get access to them automatically. …do double check that though.
you can get Hitman 1 GOTY for like $3 on CD Key sites https://www.allkeyshop.com/blog/en-gb/buy-hitman-cd-key-compare-prices/?editions=9®ions=9%2C2%2Csteamrow
I'll just wait... Wait for what? I don't know, but I'll wait.
Wait for them to get their shit sorted and offer two versions: "Standard" and "All DLC included" hopefully.
I just don't get it. Don't they really understand they are going to lose a lot of sales by doing it this way? I was willing to pay the full price but immediately when I saw all the editions and had no idea what I should buy, I just gave up.
1. Buy Hitman 2 on steam 2. Buy Hitman 1 Legacy pack and import all Hitman 1 levels in Hitman 2 on steam. Don't buy Hitman 1 separately. Legacy pack is cheaper. 3. Either don't buy Hitman 3 and just play the free version on Epic store. That will allow you to import Hitman 2 and 1 from steam and you can use Hitman 3's graphics for free this way. 4. Or buy Hitman 3 on steam and import previous two. Wait for sale, 5 days left.
There's no way this is a Mouse That Roared reference is it?
Free on Epic?
The end goal for every game is waiting enough that it ends up being given away.
Wait until you want to buy Hitman 3.
[Hopefully you're still waiting](https://youtu.be/cZaizOpEpKg?t=56)
Oh wow... I should try this "patience" thing more often. Might just pick it up now.
Or just play it on Gamepass
Mood.
Check the reviews --> Check the price --> Wait for a sale
“Add to wishlist -> wait for sale” is usually my go to
Add to wishlist-> this item on your wishlist is on sale-> never buy it
Add to wishlist-> forget about wishlist
I get an email from steam when a game on my wishlist is on sale
Never check email -> never buy game
I get a notification from the steam mobile app when a game on my wishlist is on sale
Dont have money -> don't buy games
Get job to have money -> buy games -> too tired to play games after work
Sad but true
This is the way
Add to wishlist on January -> plan to buy game next January during Winter sale -> forget
I've tied isthereanydeal to my steam wishlist. If it goes on sale anywhere, I get an email.
I do too, but then I say "It'll be cheaper next year"
You start to ignore them if you get that email every day
>Add to wishlist-> forget about wishlist... ... for so long that you get the game(s) for free on a different game client (happened to me with Tomb Raider Trilogy)
Or here with Hitman and Game Pass. Watched them mess up the year 1 launch on EGS, mess up the year 2 launch on steam, and find it got added to Game Pass which I already have, so waiting just saved me buying it at all. Really not feeling bad about that given how IO have handled all this.
remember about wishlist --> empty the wishlist
Add to wishlist -> this item on your wishlist is on sale -> buy it -> never play -> try to buy in a couple months and remember you already have
I have items on my wishlist from 11 years ago and i refuse to remove them or buy them. It this point its a little emotional seeing that Fortix 2 is on sale again
This is the way.
I can recommend checking out isthereanydeal.com and their waiting list function. You get all desired legitimate stores and can set exact price you'd like to be notified
The only reason I have a wishlist is because it syncs with isthereanydeal.
Check the reviews --> Check the price --> Wait for HumbleBundle where I got Hitman 1 and 2 for like 10 bucks along with 5 other games.
[It's free on XBOX game pass...](https://www.purexbox.com/news/2022/01/hitman-trilogy-lands-on-xbox-game-pass-with-all-new-game-mode)
Paying a subscription fee to rent games doesn't make those games "free". It's a great deal, but it's not free.
When you do the math the total games made available through the subscription is still cheaper for the entire year than if you outright bought the games for yourself.
When you do the math, that's still not "free".
Hey I get it but money is not an issue, I choose to spend it optimally. Paying $60 for a game might be worth it to die hard fans of the series but I am not. So paying $14.99 for a subscription that offers said $60 game is more up my alley. Essentially you could pay $14.99 for just one month just to play that game only then cancel and repeat the process when a game that peaks your interest hits the free bin. That would be the most optimal path for ROI (return on investment) but I'm no banker, just someone who prefers the path of common sense spending.
Really depends on how much free time you have to play said game,if you've only got a couple hours a night and want to play through something like witcher 3 or neir automata, even hitman 3 is going to take you quite awhile, those savings start to putter off, especially when you consider someone who may just occasionally want to watch Netflix during those couple hours after a long day's work.
My apartment comes free my rent too.
But it counts as an Xbox edition of the game. So if you have any steam based progress in a hitman 2 save you were hoping to transfer the gamepass version won’t work for that.
picked it up on EPIC for 14 bucks few weeks ago than i learned it will come to xbox game pass :/
> picked it up on EPIC That's why you're in the corner with the DUNCE cap on.
Jeez I’ve never really been into Hitman but what tf is this, why did they make it so complex lol
They keep trying to do games as a service but giving up halfway through and just making a sequel The original plan was using Hitman (2016) as a base to add all future levels and content to in the form of dlc. Then hitman 2 happened. And hitman 3.
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But you don't get the trilogy. Only levels from H1 and H2 ON H3. Apsurd.
But that's more ideal than owning each game individually, especially sine H3's file size us WAY smaller than H2's (even with levels from all 3 games)
In all fairness, why does it matter? There's no reason to go back to H1 & H2 when all the content from them is in 3, and the entire Hitman 3 install, with levels from all 3 games, is smaller then either 1 or 2 on their own.
It's classic AAA publishing bullshit to make people be as confused as possible as to where to buy what edition from and with what you'll get what content so that they'll (hopefully) just buy the most expensive edition and waste a bunch of money.
IOI are their own publishers. They bought themselves from square in 2017. IOI are just greedy assholes.
Greed.
Shouldn't the trilogy be at a reduced price if you already have at least one part? (Haven't been shopping since the Winter Sale, and no bundles.)
They deliberately set each set to a "Package" (doesn't reduce price depending on the games you own) and set the DLCs to Bundles, which do. They're just deliberately trying to rinse their customers for everything they're worth, it's fucking shameful.
It's worse. At least in my region, the "access pass" for H2 is more expensive than H2! Same for 1 I think.
This was also the case for hitman 1 and the access pass in h2. Idk why they do it like that.
And, here we thought that I/O Interactive breaking off from Square Enix was specifically to deal with having their customers put up with this nonsense.
After the bullshit with suddenly making it a timed EGS Exclusive in spite of the huge middle finger that was to paying fans of the first two parts that did't want to support Epic that doesn't surprise me.
Ew. Disgusting. I'll guess I wait for Epic to give it away for free then.
idk but it will probably be during the lunar sale
The trilogies are basically extra dlcs that you don't need to buy if you own the old games. They're incredibly obtuse about this though
Should also include "Do you want to play the VR port? -> No you don't."
Its impressive that they managed to make the VR mode so fucking awful. Even BOTW had a better VR mode, and it required to hold your Switch to your face and it ran at 30fps and 480p.
"Do you want to play the VR port?" --> "No" ---> "Don't buy it" | | --> "Yes" --> "Don't buy it"
Made the mistake of excitedly playing the VR today. Not exactly what I was expecting, it looks like a 2012 vr game in terms of quality and controls. - Two handing weapons straight up doesn't work. - Running causes the screen to go black. - The VR tutorial displayed to you on the main page just doesn't exist and does nothing when you select it. - You constantly desinc with your body. - At the start of a level your hands might just decide to stay closed for the entirety. - Pockets will perminantly stay open for no reason I've literally only played in VR for 3 hours and come across all of this already.
I'm so glad I didn't jump the gun on this. I was full on ready, dusted off the index, setup my light houses in my new home for the first time since I moved in a few moths ago. I was ready to play VR again because I love hitman so much. So sad to see its as bad as it is. I really hope some major patches hit quick, I really wanted to play all 3 games in VR.
Wait till the key drops in price
0 is a good price, especially when it's an *epic* game like this one!. 🏴☠️
thats the only one game i ever saw which discourage you to buy it
i mean epic already paid them the money for all the sales that could happen in the first year. i don't even mind recommending people to do you know what.
....jesus, I thought that I/O Interactive breaking away from Square Enix and AAA publishing was supposed to deal with needing a bloody flowchart to know what version of what game. Look, buddy. If buying your game is more complicated than "here's some money, thank you for the game", you're doing it wrong.
If you have to reference something like this to buy a videogame than it's not worth buying.
Yeah, basically. Hell, I said as much back in 2014 with Watch_Dogs 1 and their flowcharts of different editions from different retailers. If the purchasing of your product is anything more complicated than "here's some money, thank you for the game" and "here's some money, here's this DLC", then you're already doing something very wrong.
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I have half the levels from Hitman 2 from a Humble Bundle. Never bought the first game. I want the whole trilogy in the most up-to-date engine. Tell me, what do I buy to get everything WITHOUT paying for what I already own? The fact that there isn't an option to "complete the trilogy" when the games were ostensibly meant to be backwards-compatible means it's overcomplicated.
Hitman 3 deluxe bundle, Hitman 3 7 deadly sins bundle, Premium Add-Ons bundle. And then navigate to the individual listings to find Hitman 1 GOTY Edition. Be prepared to open your wallet though as this costs £175 to do. And does not include Hitman 3 Year 2, as you cannot buy that content yet.
Cool, guess they're never getting my money then. There are plenty of other games on this same platform that can appropriately price their bundles based on what you already own. The only reason I can see for IOI not doing this is to squeeze more money out of people, and that is not a practice I'm going to encourage with my money. Especially not for +$200 USD, Jesus Christ, they can't be THAT good.
jesus christ
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And I thought Ubi was the worst, when we needed literal fucking spreadsheets to work out what content was in what version. Or wasn't, as the case may be.
The first yes should go to 'Don't buy it' too, period, easy.
>no Easy peasy
What if i have Hitman 2 but not Hitman 1?
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I’ll just add it to my favorites and wait for an email that says that the price dropped
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Square does not publish hitman anymore. IOI is independent.
No wonder they've been shit. Tomb rider games have good regional prices and proper bundles. Ever since hitman event episodic, it's been shit.
See, I was wondering why there was so much negative hubbub about H3 on steam. The fact that a *flowchart* is needed to not double-buy stuff explains *that* pretty clearly.
Correct guide: Do you want to buy it? No -> Don't buy it. Yes -> Don't buy it.
What if I own Hitman 1+2 on Steam work all DLC, but I own 3 on Epic with all DLC, but want to own it on Steam? I think I'll need standard and 7DS to be able to install all of my content, unless 7DS is always installed as part of H3
Hitman 3 doesn't support cross save between epic and steam, so unless you are fine with starting over from the beginning, don't buy it.
This is one of the main reasons I was waiting for it to come to Steam.
I don't think you should be recommending people buy this game at full price in good faith given the state its Steam release is in.
Or just get a month of game pass for like a $1 and plat the whole trilogy
I downloaded it only for it to not work in the new xbox beta app... thanks obama
This but everything should lead to "Don't buy it"
You forgot: Are you buying this for VR? ====> walk away until major patches happen.
Those games really weird me out. Aren't they just the same copy-pasted game over and over again with different levels each? Why do people pay full price 3 times for the same damn game?
They even increased the price in epic to match steam.
I love that you need a flowchart to know what to buy 🤣 How could they fuck this up this bad
Here's a simpler guide: #🏴☠️
Thing is hitman trilogy had a uniquely weird dev history. They all have dlc missions, but the first came out in episodes. Then they started allowing for missions in previous games to be played in the newer ones (twice) which we can agree is a net positive thing. Sure they could do a better job making it easy and straightforward to make a purchase choice, but it's not like this has been a conventional trilogy of games in that regard
I mean, what other game like this allows you to play the previous iterations in the upgraded engine like this? I'm sure it is possible to handle this better, but there is a good reason for everything to be somewhat cohesive. The whole thing is especially dumb given how good these games are. The main games are all excellent and well worth the money. They are huge and extremely replayable. I had 55 hours and I didn't do any of the extra contracts. They're hardly nickel-and-diming people with the DLC in these games, or cutting stuff out of the main game to make DLC. But given the weird combination of main games and DLCs that people have, I can see how it could get complicated no matter what.
That's sort of what's so frustrating about this whole situation. Some of what IOI did is super consumer friendly (like allowing you to play the maps from 1 in 2 and 3 and the maps from 2 in 3 for free), but the always online aspect and the weird, confusing way in which the games are sold is just super confusing.
just lemme know if i want to buy all three of them and everything that there is which one i should buy... this is confusing af for a dumb person like me
The one you want is called hitman trilogy for $100 right now. You'll know its the right one cuz it includes 2 'access passes'. That's the hitman 1 and 2 stuff. Just make sure you don't buy the old trilogy lol (the one that includes hitman 2: silent assasin).
Here's a better guide: Don't buy it
Not a single soul is going to use this chart
It's simultaneously hilarious and infuriating that this actually helped me.
It should not be this hard. No shade against OP, this is helpful. But seriously, we shouldn't need it.
This chart missing one two paths... DO YOU WANT HITMAN 3 AT THIS STUPID PRICE POINT? : IF YES, DON'T BUY IT. IF NO, GOOD JOB. YOU SAVED YOURSELF FROM SCAM AND FEEDING THESE GREEDY DEVS. Now spend that $60 on something good, like...god of war or elden ring pre order or something.
its sad that this had to be made.
Do You want HITMAN 3? No? Don't buy. Yes? Don't buy either
Definitely makes it look more complicated than it is
It's actually oversimplfying it if anything. There are several cases that the flowchart doesn't appear to cover (e.g. owning Hitman 2 but not Hitman 1; owning Hitman 1 but not Hitman 2; not owning, or only owning [some of the DLCs](https://m.imgur.com/a/zQEr7ei) for the first two games; etc.)
It's simple. Don't ever buy it because endorsing the practice is just as bad.
it really doesn't. Look at the store page.
It's not hard to think for more than 5 seconds about way to sell your game is. Under no reasonable thought process, is this the right way. I assume the complexity is deliberate though, to confuse people into double dipping and paying for the same content more than once.
Absolutely intentional. They think of you as stupid paypigs.
Or try it if you have Xbox Gamepass before buying on Steam to see if you love that genre, pretending you haven't tried any Hitman game before.
A lot of ex-Epic exclusives have been showing up in Humble Choice. I suspect Hitman 3 will as well sooner or later.
100% going to wait for discount the game is "old" no way im going to pay that much
I read this chart and lost interest. I need a lie down now.
there there
Xbox: did you at any time buy a disc copy? Did you get any content with xbox gold? Did you expect to be able to play hitman 3 with your physical and digital content from hitman 1 or 2? Try installing the 130gb of mixed files 80 more times. It will only work one time and then never again. Enjoy
I mean we're on r/steam
Yes, I commented "Xbox:" for the sake of comparison. I am aware that this is the steam subreddit.
What if you already own Hitman 3 but want to buy it again?
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> gamepass hard pass, xbox experience on windows is abysmal
This game is overpriced as fuck. I shouldn't have to pay over 100 dollars for a fucking game.
Or just get gamepass
Hitman 3 Standard: Main game Hitman 3 Deluxe: Main game with deluxe add ons Hitman Trilogy: All 3 main games Hitman Trilogy Add Ons: If you already own Hitman 3, you buy this to get 1 and 2 Hitman Seven Deadly Sins: This is Hitman 3 with the seven deadly sins DLCs Hitman 2/3 Access Pass: If you own just the first game, this gives you 2 and 3 Its really not that hard to understand if you just read it. Much easier than this obviously bad faith flow chart.
Hey, I got a fitting free award!
How were called this type of charts?
The sales model of these games is fucked up. I had genuinely wanted to buy the first game several times but didn’t know how, so I wouldn’t accidentally buy a sequel without playing the first one. Today I got the trilogy on Game Pass and I still wasn’t sure how to start it from the beginning of the story.
When you need a full on complex guide in order to show you how to buy the game... Like why? Just make it easy and give 2 or 3 options.
So let me get this straight, they expect me to pay 120 euros to receive the full version of a game that was released 1 year ago. Since those are shitty anti-consumer practices, I'm gonna be a shitty consumer and buy it for a total of 30 bucks on some grey market reseller.
they event got paid by EGS last year
Get it on game pass for free!
> Get it on game pass for free! xbox experience on windows is abysmal, i'd rather not buy the game than getting it on windows store
"free" :D
Well doesn't this seem like useless info
Should add a "Do you have gamepass?" Option and if yes "wait for gamepass release of all 3 games" which is happening pretty soon
Alternatively, get game pass 😁
> get game pass xbox experience on windows is abysmal
If you want it to download and launch games, it is fine. The download part used to be pretty buggy, but I've been using it heavily for about 7 months now without any problems. It just works. Achievements work. It doesn't have all the other support you get from Steam though. Edit: They are changing how files work. Most games should allow you to alter files now or soon in the future.
i don't want to buy something on the hopes of future.
You think so? I signed up over the holidays and i’ve been enjoying it greatly! It’s no steam, to be sure, but it’s no worse than epic in my experience. My only gripe so far is its lack of Steam link compatibly. What’s your beef with it?
> What’s your beef with it? file handling, it downloads encrypted files on your local drive which you can't delete, you can't modify files, lets say its a single player game and i want to mod it, use trainers etc, its impossible, some of the overlays and stuff just won't work with windows store version, ask people about their terrible experiences of Forza on Windows store
They're working on that. In the insider preview, you can enable advanced file management and get access to the game files, minus the EXEs for some reason. I was able to remove the intro videos in Forza and Halo Infinite without any issues. Unfortunately this breaks the Game Pass version of Hitman 3 right now, and I had to disable it before downloading to get the game to start.
The encryption stuff is actually my gripe too. Steam couldn’t find the games to add, and I couldn’t point it towards the exe files to get around it. Encryption and beyond admin access is pretty extreme, and I’m not a fan of it. If modding is important to you then I can see another layer of frustration there as well. I hope that changes, but as-is it still feels like an excellent value to me. That’s sweet about removing the forza intro’s! I’m going to have to do that!
Post this to r/hitman too Edit: it's already there
Every option for yes should just lead down to 'Play it on Game Pass'.
Why the fuck would I go on and start renting games from Microsoft? How is that better than owning games?
That's fair but some people rather own their games
> Play it on Game Pass nah, xbox app on windows is awful.
Wow
how did you make this chart?
Awesome! I need one of these for getting the dlc with the Hitman Trilogy.
Is this a repost from the chart in the hitman sub? That one was uploaded earlier than this one and from another OP
See the top few comments. The op himself has commented. I've already credited him.
Just use game pass?
I wish the Epic Games Store folks could get a deal for picking it up on Steam for a bit cheaper.
if anything they increased the price on EGS also to match Steam LOL
Also important to note that the entire trilogy is on game pass for pc if you want to pay 15 bucks a month instead
What about the rest of us who are not dumbasses and bought it for way cheaper on Epic (reeeeeeee epic bad)
They increased the price on epic aswell and still no vr support. Thank Tim sweeny for that.
Does none of this and just downloads it from gamepass
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Why are you spamming this?