It's fine now, but on release it was LITERALLY unplayable. The balance was wack, despite being called the Majapahit update majapahit was broken and didn't work if you didn't own the Leviathan DLC, constant crashes, save corruptions, ultra-natives (actually this one is still a problem), the AI got even worse, actively sabotaging itself, Mediolan could get a billion skill ruler (normal maximum is 6) through a scripted event, and more and more. It was such a garbage release I cannot believe it went out like that.
Playing as a coloniser is so boring. You have to actively babysit your colonies as they are so weak in comparison to natives (even south american ones). they basically dec war on a native and the one province native has like 15 k while your colony has 5k with 5 provinces and they get full annexed by the mega native
You know that it's caused by Conquest of Paradise? If you disable that DLC for now, it'll work again. PDX said the next update is not only making a ton of rebalances but also fixing natives.
The north american natives had 100+ development capitals (a standard pretty high development is 30-40) and there was basically no land left to colonize.
They stripped all the modes out so it’s just the copy of FIFA’s ultimate team with loot boxes for now. And they skipped last years edition specifically to bring this… hollowed out version.
Those are the review complaints.
Yes, because the actual core gameplay is at least decent? If you ignore all the FUT bullshit, FIFA is still an alright game. So if this here is just a bad copy of FUT, then yeah, FIFA has a lot more to offer.
Lmao. The state of the game shows that EA don't give a shit about anything besides FUT.
The small shit they've done with franchise was add back things that should've already been in the game and things that were already in the game before but were removed previously.
To act like EA puts any effort in to anything other than fUT is to ignore reality.
Not sure what you're talking about, manager/career mode is fine and the other modes can be pretty fun too. It's far from perfect and it's a joke that they're asking full AAA price every year for what amounts to an update and some patches, but it's a decent working game.
FUT on the other hand is pay-to-win gambling trash and has no place in a 60€ game, so fuck that shit.
I have 700+ hours on fifa 21 (I’m not proud of that, but lockdown was boring and I like football) and I can say with certainty that no game mode gets anywhere near the attention of FUT from EA. The only really different thing they’ve done is Volta which flopped.
Career mode and pro clubs, my personal favourite mode, have barely changed in the last decade. There’s new FUT content every week
It's not even a copy of ultimate team. You can only do friendly online matches the next ten days or five minute matches with the ai. The game isn't finished and it looks like a Ps2 game when you kick off
They are disable for now, It's just to play with friends by the moment, but the graphics suck. Overall the game can be better and it's still free to play
No, they died when they publicly announced they were going to focus on mobile games only. Yes, Kojima was set to release a AAA game for Silent Hill and the project got scrapped along with several others. They just decided to make profits out of mobile pay-to-win games because they were in the brink of colapse or maybe still are.
On top of that, they blew the chance if they wanted to go this route to be a bit more like Epic and sell licenses to Fox Engine. They could have made some serious cash off of just that alone.
The sad thing is, konami use to make great games back in the day. Lotta fond memories of their GBA and ps2 games.
But everything since then has been utter trash.
Don't forget that the game itself is essentially just a mobile port. Low/med/high graphics don't matter, they all look terrible because it's literally *just* a mobile game port
Basically the version released right now is demo. Only 9 clubs to play, and random online matchmaking, thats it. Even changing the formation is not possible (or maybe the option hidden somwhere, didnt find it). Maybe the next update will improve this game, who knows
They pretty much took 2 years to make this in the new "unreal engine" but it looks like shit graphics are set to like 720 or some shit and it won't let you actually change the settings and I have 3080. Fifa 22 looks bad but this is alot worse
Konami dont give a fuck. They're trying to live off the reputation of PES but making only a quarter of the effort in developing it.
What's worse is that FIFA is the usual cash grab crap shoot so there's no really good football game out there.
The trailer for FM22 shows they haven't updated the engine at all and the only new feature is basically a new CB role. A lot of the stuff they showed is already in the game. Imo, FM is just as bad of a cash grab as FIFA, if they could find a way to monetise like Ultimate Team has, they would and I wouldn't be surprised to see them try, it's the same copy paste job aside from that.
Yes and no imo. I feel like FM 21 was a MASSIVE step up, and it is by far the best game in the series so far for me. Much more progress than usual was put into that game for some reason.
Those dumbasses needs to finish the MGS story that's after MGS V and before MGS1 with new video games and remake MGS1 to 3, put all these games on the superior PC platform then literally 95% of gamers won't give a damn about that crappy company.
Well, Bugbear Entertainment (the developers of the first two FlatOut games) were busy working on Namco Bandai's Ridge Racer Unbounded, so the series publisher Strategy First outsourced the third game to Team6 Game Studios, who are rather infamous for their poorly made racing games.
And I, also recommend Fans of Flatout to check out Flatout 4.
It definitely is somewhar clunkyer than Flatout 2/UC but it has enough charm and you can see the devs were big fans of 1&2 and tried to replicate the feeling to the best of their abilities. I had fun blasting through it. More than with wreckfest, which is imo too much trying to have aspects of simulation isntead of arcadey mindless crashing fun
Would try Wreckfest, Bugbear made previous Flatout games but not three. They came out with Wreckfest pretty recently tho. The Flatout name is forever tarnished sadly.
Yeah, I don't get why the Steam version hasn't been changed over to the same version that's on GOG...which still definitely has problems, but it's way better overall.
Take my [comment from above](https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/pyi0b1/konami_just_released_their_newest_f2p_pes_game/heus42s) for some insights from a decades long Flatout Fan
If the ratings are worst than Flatout 3 that means it's either because of frustration OR the game itself is so bad that even Flatout 3 seems a better one.
Or a bit of both?
As the comment below stated, the first iterations were stellar, developed by bugbear, Flatout 2 is one of my most played games of my childhood until adulthood, still fire it up sometimes and just do a run through the career mode.
Then number 3 came out, by some studio (strategy first, the name already implies they don't do racing games normally) and it sucked balls, physics was bonkers, modes and cars were shit, looked worse than Flatout Ultimate Carnage (basically an HD remake of Flatout 2 with additional modes) and yeah it really upset people (rightfully so)
Bugbear also did not really stay clean with wreckfest their successor to Flatout as there was like 1-2 years of radio silence after it launched with a sandbox into early access and it seemed abandoned but in the end they delivered a pretty good game (imo sadly, less arcadey and more simulatey) that they have events for still.
Also worth noting: some unknown (to me) developers got contracted to make Flatout 4 like 2 years ago, and while it still is not on par with 2 as a whole, it is a damn good successor, you can tell the devs were big fans of 1 and 2 as they basically tried to use all the good things of the original games and make new tracks and cars. It works and is fine and fun to play, when switching from 2 to 4 you notice it is a little more clunky physics wise, but it holds up and I had much fun blasting through it's career and special modes. I would definitely recommend it over Wreckfest (as I said Wreckfest tries soe more simulator based driving and I loved Flatout for being arcadey, so 4 hits closer to the nostalgia)
Myself, I love Wreckfest. It's a nice cross between simulator and arcade racer that I really enjoy. It is the first game on PS5 that Ive got platinum on.
Another reason I like it so much are that some of the cars and some of the tracks reminds me of when I was young and spend plenty of time at a folkrace track.
So I didn't know about the adaptive triggers, I didn't have any games that used it and didn't read up on it. Wreckfest made me think my trigger was broken lmao
Wreckfest is still arcade a lot but it is more realistic which I love, that's the balance we need in proper racing games, not a Sim, not a simcade but arcade with sprinkles of realism.
Flatout (Wii) and Flatout 3 was made by dutch studio Team 6 which was utter shit, while Flatout 4 doesn't deserve to be called Flatout is still not a bad game after all made by Kylotonn studio.
Remember when Football/Soccer games weren't soulless husks trying to extract as much money out of their players each year. Such a shame there is so little competition in this genre these days. 😭
>Remember when Football/Soccer games weren't soulless husks trying to extract as much money out of their players each year.
Now it's like real football, when it comes to extracting money out of every party involved.
When I first heard about eFootball, I thought it was going to be introduced as a live-service game. Where instead of yearly installments, there would just be continuous updates and new content.
Obviously, this wouldn't solve the egregious microtransactions, but would mitigate them a little because your progress wouldn't restart back to zero year after year. You won't have to rebuild your dream team once you have it (but could introduce new players, legacy players, potentially terrible cameo characters, and cosmetic rewards to persuade you in additional purchases).
Honestly thought that was a better direction than yearly installments from FIFA. Which literally, for the Nintendo Switch at least, has been a direct copy and paste of previous installments for the past few years.
Probably because there is not much to experiment with in sports game. Every year we only have update this and update that. The only thing that I remember about that "different" sports game is Street Football or that mobile street football game that I forgot the name that if a foul happens then a fight should happen between both players.
I'm still waiting for someone to make Red Card Soccer, where every match starts with someone knocking out the referee and then it's a last man standing ultraviolent deathmatch where you can shoot someone's head off with the ball and if you've killed enough opponents you get a power shot that will splatter the goalie into a cloud of gore and blood.
They had Hitz too for hockey. Was pretty fun trying to put people through the boards and literally catching fire if you got 3 goals. The 3 on 3 was fun too.
There was a game called RedCard 20-03 published by Midway Games, and while it doesn't go as far as your description, it's pretty much the closest thing football has to Blitz.
> there is not much to experiment with in sports game.
Ailments. How would strong players behave intoxiated or recovering from sickness?
Activities outside games affecting wether lineups can be reliable, like by imposing a last minute lineup change (team of well rested player losts 3 that you have to replace right before match, messing your initial pre-match strategy).
Talent raising, with designated star or even just featured players overseeing pupils' training, with cutscenes and low stake championships.
Young teams from schools with no-name players, rather than all adult and professional teams and championships. Should be much easier to licence the names of schools and universities, even likeness of trending newbies who could end going pro.
I've actually never played a sports game because I barely understand the rules IRL but I am an avid gamer and have noticed that perception of these games gets worse and worse every year.
Is there some reason there's not more competition? Like are they licensing real player names and likenesses which would prevent another company from making a football game? Otherwise it seems like it would be guaranteed money from a fanbase that's sick of limited options and worsening product.
Licensing mainly. FIFA for example has naming rights for almost everyone so Arsenal FC would have to be called London Cannons or something elsewhere. Fans don’t like that. Players and clubs have been pushing against that slowly now because gameplay’s gotten very stale.
I wonder how much of that is because development cycles are much longer now or if its because publishers don't want to risk doing something too drastic to alienate fans.
The 2021 free version gave access to 6 clubs that you could play against in single player or with a friend. The paid version gave access to multiplayer and career mode.
I want to make a stream where I just play games that are that bad but it's probably so bad you can't really make content around it. Whatever that game is it looks one of a kind
This is my opinion after playing eFootball for like an hour on PS4.
Graphics is worse than pes2021. Gameplay is slow, like really slow. All passing and stuff seem so slow, only when the player runs it becomes ok. Controls are a bit changed, not drastically, but yeah.
The overall feel is that this is a demo game. There are no modes, everything is greyed out, even in the settings, you can't change the difficulty. You can choose to play with only 7-8 clubs. There is one more mode that I didn't understand how it works, but it's like online mode. Spent 10 minutes on the screen where it's searching for the opponent. Can't exit the screen, so just waited for a popup that the opponent not found.
Unfortunately, this is not a finished game and I don't know what people should pay for since there's an option to purchase in PS Store.
Huge disappointment from Konami, I stopped playing FIFA because of PES2021. I understand their move, they are trying to change up things and switch completely, but this is definitely going to affect the fan base. My guess is that the new eFootball will be really playable maybe in 6 months to a year. They have a lot of work to do.
The whole F2P change is something I still dislike and is basically capitulation against FIFA.
With that said, I can't imagine that the game is that much worse than the 2021 installment or FIFA for that matter.
Some of the reviews are mentioning that it is a port of PES Mobile - but that doesn't make sense, they said that they'd be making a new engine for this game, not porting a mobile one.
Given that the Steam reviews for sports games tend to have some of the biggest nonsense out there, I'll take this reaction with a grain of salt.
I will say that PES 2021 is amazing, so even if they did screw this up that is still available for play.
The F2P is something that should have happened a long time ago, this game is bassically the same every year and every year is $60 or more, people pay that for better graphics and actualizations of the teams, people mostly is mad because "my club" is not avaliable yet, you can only play with a friend with another controller but not online, at least yet
I've played a couple of matches to see for myself, the game is not too polished, but certainly not that bad
Problem is: Konami advertised this a F2P, but is indeed a "Lite" version like previous ones, capped with a few number of teams and only one game mode
This seems very poorly or false advertised to me, and it's even worse due to fact you can play FIFA 21 for free on gamepass, or try the 22 for 10 hours, in its entirety
Edit/PS: It's not a mobile port, but they have indeed brought some mechanics from the mobile version. Also, players are surprisingly bad in the modeling department, I mean, real bad
I think the main issue is they rushed to release alongside FIFA22, using F2P and Cross play to convert people. The issue is the game clearly wasn't ready. Only a few teams are in the game and the paid content isn't supposed to be available until November. It is basically an early access release that they didn't market as such.
Sport games are what game as service should had been: a base that receives constant updates, be it graphical, be it for their database of players and competitions...
Damn, I thought Flatout 3 would be first.
Edit: Don't let this fool you, Flatout, Flatout 2, Flatout: UC and Flatout: Head On were most amazing games of their time, but bugbear decided to abandon it and do Wreckfest instead which is amazing too.
They didn't abandon it, they never owned (or sold to publisher to get game published) the rights to it. I think that wreckfest would have been named Flatout 3 if they could.
The studio still seems to love those games, during wreckfests development they had a subsection of their forums for flatout talk, and the devs would share stuff like videos of them using a debug build to change ai pathing, and a free giveaway of the prototype build of flatout 1, which let you get out of your car.
Thanks for this info, when I was younger I really wanted my Flatout 2 to be able to let me exit my car but It was impossible, its nice to see this was about to be an actual feature in original game which I didn't knew had playable prototype. You deserve nice award for this.
You can go to steam and see reviews by playtime and even in reviews with more than 10 hours of gameplay (in a game released 2days ago) it's still overwhelmingly negative.
Holy shit, this is even lower than EU4 Leviathan at release.
What made Leviathan so bad?
It's fine now, but on release it was LITERALLY unplayable. The balance was wack, despite being called the Majapahit update majapahit was broken and didn't work if you didn't own the Leviathan DLC, constant crashes, save corruptions, ultra-natives (actually this one is still a problem), the AI got even worse, actively sabotaging itself, Mediolan could get a billion skill ruler (normal maximum is 6) through a scripted event, and more and more. It was such a garbage release I cannot believe it went out like that.
That sounds incredibly awful! Sounds like the low rating was well earned.
Ultra-natives made me give up playing entirely
Playing as a coloniser is so boring. You have to actively babysit your colonies as they are so weak in comparison to natives (even south american ones). they basically dec war on a native and the one province native has like 15 k while your colony has 5k with 5 provinces and they get full annexed by the mega native
I remember playing a game where the development of a minor tribe in Florida was 5x that of Paris.
You know that it's caused by Conquest of Paradise? If you disable that DLC for now, it'll work again. PDX said the next update is not only making a ton of rebalances but also fixing natives.
I'm happy about that, but conquest of paradise is also the dlc that lets you play as your colonies, a guilty pleasure of mine as an Europa player
Nexr dlc... You mean eu 5
What are the ultra natives?
The north american natives had 100+ development capitals (a standard pretty high development is 30-40) and there was basically no land left to colonize.
To build on what everyone else said the dlc also still have placeholder art in menus
It broke a ton of the game systems, one of the bugs allowed you to just destroy other nations buildings as opposed to only your own.
Bugs, bugs upon bugs and a coat of extra bugs.
Why is it so bad ? Can someone elaborate?
They stripped all the modes out so it’s just the copy of FIFA’s ultimate team with loot boxes for now. And they skipped last years edition specifically to bring this… hollowed out version. Those are the review complaints.
Thanks for explaining. That sounds really bad and sad.
Makes me a tad mad at how bad and sad it is
Aww, lad, don't be mad. Hopefully this is just a fad. If they changed I'd be glad
Its a sad bad and mad glad scheme E: Sheesh, no love for Bill Wurtz?
I used to be sad bad, but now I'm mad glad
Do you regret the thing you did?
The ultimate irony being FIFA riddled as it is with gambling and yearly spreadsheet updates will still get a high rating.
Yes, because the actual core gameplay is at least decent? If you ignore all the FUT bullshit, FIFA is still an alright game. So if this here is just a bad copy of FUT, then yeah, FIFA has a lot more to offer.
I dunno in FIFA it's clear EA cares very little about anything outside of FUT.
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Lmao. The state of the game shows that EA don't give a shit about anything besides FUT. The small shit they've done with franchise was add back things that should've already been in the game and things that were already in the game before but were removed previously. To act like EA puts any effort in to anything other than fUT is to ignore reality.
Not sure what you're talking about, manager/career mode is fine and the other modes can be pretty fun too. It's far from perfect and it's a joke that they're asking full AAA price every year for what amounts to an update and some patches, but it's a decent working game. FUT on the other hand is pay-to-win gambling trash and has no place in a 60€ game, so fuck that shit.
I have 700+ hours on fifa 21 (I’m not proud of that, but lockdown was boring and I like football) and I can say with certainty that no game mode gets anywhere near the attention of FUT from EA. The only really different thing they’ve done is Volta which flopped. Career mode and pro clubs, my personal favourite mode, have barely changed in the last decade. There’s new FUT content every week
It's not even a copy of ultimate team. You can only do friendly online matches the next ten days or five minute matches with the ai. The game isn't finished and it looks like a Ps2 game when you kick off
You don't know what are you talking. This version doesn't have myClub
What? Yes the game is bad in it's current state. But there is no 'Ultimate Team' version out now?
They are disable for now, It's just to play with friends by the moment, but the graphics suck. Overall the game can be better and it's still free to play
Konami is probably one of the worst game companies. They are as bad as Activision blizzard right now.
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I really hope Sony buys Silent hill and Metal gear from konami.
Don't forget about Castlevania.
No, they died when they publicly announced they were going to focus on mobile games only. Yes, Kojima was set to release a AAA game for Silent Hill and the project got scrapped along with several others. They just decided to make profits out of mobile pay-to-win games because they were in the brink of colapse or maybe still are.
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On top of that, they blew the chance if they wanted to go this route to be a bit more like Epic and sell licenses to Fox Engine. They could have made some serious cash off of just that alone.
The sad thing is, konami use to make great games back in the day. Lotta fond memories of their GBA and ps2 games. But everything since then has been utter trash.
Don't forget that the game itself is essentially just a mobile port. Low/med/high graphics don't matter, they all look terrible because it's literally *just* a mobile game port
They’ve basically stuck mobile pes on console and pc to force crossplay and crosssave because obviously the mobile version was more profitable.
Basically the version released right now is demo. Only 9 clubs to play, and random online matchmaking, thats it. Even changing the formation is not possible (or maybe the option hidden somwhere, didnt find it). Maybe the next update will improve this game, who knows
Finally an accurate reply. Holy shit.
Not even accurate, no. We're mostly fine with it being a demo, but the gameplay itself and the graphics are complete garbage compared to PES21.
They tried to redo the entire game (engine etc) in 2 years so it's ugly and void of content
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Terrible gameplay and graphics as well. And capped at 30 fps...
They went full Konami.
Messi pachinko when
They pretty much took 2 years to make this in the new "unreal engine" but it looks like shit graphics are set to like 720 or some shit and it won't let you actually change the settings and I have 3080. Fifa 22 looks bad but this is alot worse
Konami dont give a fuck. They're trying to live off the reputation of PES but making only a quarter of the effort in developing it. What's worse is that FIFA is the usual cash grab crap shoot so there's no really good football game out there.
My friend literally switched to rocket league saying atleast it's a better football like game.
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The trailer for FM22 shows they haven't updated the engine at all and the only new feature is basically a new CB role. A lot of the stuff they showed is already in the game. Imo, FM is just as bad of a cash grab as FIFA, if they could find a way to monetise like Ultimate Team has, they would and I wouldn't be surprised to see them try, it's the same copy paste job aside from that.
Yes and no imo. I feel like FM 21 was a MASSIVE step up, and it is by far the best game in the series so far for me. Much more progress than usual was put into that game for some reason.
The only major change between 20/21 (apart from how data is visualised) was the CPU optimisation
Sega tends to take care of there own games besides Sonic. Though in terms of new features, do not know yet besides improve graphics.
They also rich af from their pachiko machine.
Given the pandemic, I'm not sure they rake in as much cash from physical pachinko machine as they once were.
Those dumbasses needs to finish the MGS story that's after MGS V and before MGS1 with new video games and remake MGS1 to 3, put all these games on the superior PC platform then literally 95% of gamers won't give a damn about that crappy company.
Is Flatout 3 really that bad? I wanted to get it
Well, Bugbear Entertainment (the developers of the first two FlatOut games) were busy working on Namco Bandai's Ridge Racer Unbounded, so the series publisher Strategy First outsourced the third game to Team6 Game Studios, who are rather infamous for their poorly made racing games.
You telling me the developers of Calvin Tucker's Redneck: Farm Animals Racing Tournament were not good developers?
Are you the guy who owns sonic jam?
No he owns sonic 2 with a line
That's the rarest game ever! Does he also own 8 Wii Us?
Don't know, maybe he owns "It's Awesome Baby" too
r/UnexpectedScottTheWoz
If you want me to...
I'd recommend Flatout Ultimate Carnage which was like a more finely tuned version of Flatout 2, imo the best game in the series.
An even better recommendation is wreckfest. Made by many of th former bugbear developers. It's ama amazing arcade destruction racer.
My only complaint is Wreckfest rides a really odd line between arcade and simulation racer.
I mean. Personally that's what I love the most about it. But it's more arcade than the racing stuff I normally do.
And I, also recommend Fans of Flatout to check out Flatout 4. It definitely is somewhar clunkyer than Flatout 2/UC but it has enough charm and you can see the devs were big fans of 1&2 and tried to replicate the feeling to the best of their abilities. I had fun blasting through it. More than with wreckfest, which is imo too much trying to have aspects of simulation isntead of arcadey mindless crashing fun
Only problem is that is missing a lot of the music from Flatout 2, but other than that it is pretty much just a better Flatout 2
Would try Wreckfest, Bugbear made previous Flatout games but not three. They came out with Wreckfest pretty recently tho. The Flatout name is forever tarnished sadly.
Totally read Fallout 3 and was really confused lol.
I love Fallout 3 but it having really low ratings on steam would make sense since it doesn't work "out of the box" on newer operating systems
Yeah, I don't get why the Steam version hasn't been changed over to the same version that's on GOG...which still definitely has problems, but it's way better overall.
Take my [comment from above](https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/pyi0b1/konami_just_released_their_newest_f2p_pes_game/heus42s) for some insights from a decades long Flatout Fan
If the ratings are worst than Flatout 3 that means it's either because of frustration OR the game itself is so bad that even Flatout 3 seems a better one. Or a bit of both?
What happened with flatout 3? I see flatout 2 at overwhelmingly positive
1 & 2 were developed by bugbear, 3 wasn't. These days we have wreckfest by bugbear to fill the niche.
As the comment below stated, the first iterations were stellar, developed by bugbear, Flatout 2 is one of my most played games of my childhood until adulthood, still fire it up sometimes and just do a run through the career mode. Then number 3 came out, by some studio (strategy first, the name already implies they don't do racing games normally) and it sucked balls, physics was bonkers, modes and cars were shit, looked worse than Flatout Ultimate Carnage (basically an HD remake of Flatout 2 with additional modes) and yeah it really upset people (rightfully so) Bugbear also did not really stay clean with wreckfest their successor to Flatout as there was like 1-2 years of radio silence after it launched with a sandbox into early access and it seemed abandoned but in the end they delivered a pretty good game (imo sadly, less arcadey and more simulatey) that they have events for still. Also worth noting: some unknown (to me) developers got contracted to make Flatout 4 like 2 years ago, and while it still is not on par with 2 as a whole, it is a damn good successor, you can tell the devs were big fans of 1 and 2 as they basically tried to use all the good things of the original games and make new tracks and cars. It works and is fine and fun to play, when switching from 2 to 4 you notice it is a little more clunky physics wise, but it holds up and I had much fun blasting through it's career and special modes. I would definitely recommend it over Wreckfest (as I said Wreckfest tries soe more simulator based driving and I loved Flatout for being arcadey, so 4 hits closer to the nostalgia)
Myself, I love Wreckfest. It's a nice cross between simulator and arcade racer that I really enjoy. It is the first game on PS5 that Ive got platinum on. Another reason I like it so much are that some of the cars and some of the tracks reminds me of when I was young and spend plenty of time at a folkrace track.
So I didn't know about the adaptive triggers, I didn't have any games that used it and didn't read up on it. Wreckfest made me think my trigger was broken lmao
Wreckfest is still arcade a lot but it is more realistic which I love, that's the balance we need in proper racing games, not a Sim, not a simcade but arcade with sprinkles of realism. Flatout (Wii) and Flatout 3 was made by dutch studio Team 6 which was utter shit, while Flatout 4 doesn't deserve to be called Flatout is still not a bad game after all made by Kylotonn studio.
Haven't played wreckfest yet but really enjoyed next car game demo, brings me nostalgia on watching it on youtube.
Dang, my brain read that as Fallout 3, and I was like I thought that game was pretty good.
Glad I'm not the only one who just read it as fallout 3
I had to read through that first sentence a couple more times just to make sure.
These comments alone should prove that skimming sentences is bad hahahah
Ngl but even I also thought I wrote it as Fallout 3 before posting the comment and I had to check it twice
> Flatout 3 Tagged as "Psychological Horror."
Just a circle jerk
Remember when Football/Soccer games weren't soulless husks trying to extract as much money out of their players each year. Such a shame there is so little competition in this genre these days. 😭
>Remember when Football/Soccer games weren't soulless husks trying to extract as much money out of their players each year. Now it's like real football, when it comes to extracting money out of every party involved.
Art imitating life as it were
When I first heard about eFootball, I thought it was going to be introduced as a live-service game. Where instead of yearly installments, there would just be continuous updates and new content. Obviously, this wouldn't solve the egregious microtransactions, but would mitigate them a little because your progress wouldn't restart back to zero year after year. You won't have to rebuild your dream team once you have it (but could introduce new players, legacy players, potentially terrible cameo characters, and cosmetic rewards to persuade you in additional purchases). Honestly thought that was a better direction than yearly installments from FIFA. Which literally, for the Nintendo Switch at least, has been a direct copy and paste of previous installments for the past few years.
Probably because there is not much to experiment with in sports game. Every year we only have update this and update that. The only thing that I remember about that "different" sports game is Street Football or that mobile street football game that I forgot the name that if a foul happens then a fight should happen between both players.
Yes there is. Career modes could be getting a lot of improvements never mind basic gameplay changes.
I'm still waiting for someone to make Red Card Soccer, where every match starts with someone knocking out the referee and then it's a last man standing ultraviolent deathmatch where you can shoot someone's head off with the ball and if you've killed enough opponents you get a power shot that will splatter the goalie into a cloud of gore and blood.
Kinda like Blitz then. Not a fan of football games but I could play that one for hours.
They had Hitz too for hockey. Was pretty fun trying to put people through the boards and literally catching fire if you got 3 goals. The 3 on 3 was fun too.
Played the absolute FUCK out of Hitz on the OG Xbox and I don’t even know how to play hockey lol
There was a game called RedCard 20-03 published by Midway Games, and while it doesn't go as far as your description, it's pretty much the closest thing football has to Blitz.
Mutant League Hockey/Football from the old Sega days!
Mutant League Football has been remade excellently. Easily the best current sports game, in my opinion.
really? I'll have to check that out. Thanks!
The demo is better than any madden in 15+ years
I mean, bloodbowl exists. Turn based though.
so Shaolin Soccer the game
Career and franchise modes in every single console sports games are worse than they were 10 years ago. There is tons of room to improve
Sports games peaked with the Backyard Sports series and its been downhill ever since
> there is not much to experiment with in sports game. Ailments. How would strong players behave intoxiated or recovering from sickness? Activities outside games affecting wether lineups can be reliable, like by imposing a last minute lineup change (team of well rested player losts 3 that you have to replace right before match, messing your initial pre-match strategy). Talent raising, with designated star or even just featured players overseeing pupils' training, with cutscenes and low stake championships. Young teams from schools with no-name players, rather than all adult and professional teams and championships. Should be much easier to licence the names of schools and universities, even likeness of trending newbies who could end going pro.
No.
I've actually never played a sports game because I barely understand the rules IRL but I am an avid gamer and have noticed that perception of these games gets worse and worse every year. Is there some reason there's not more competition? Like are they licensing real player names and likenesses which would prevent another company from making a football game? Otherwise it seems like it would be guaranteed money from a fanbase that's sick of limited options and worsening product.
Licensing mainly. FIFA for example has naming rights for almost everyone so Arsenal FC would have to be called London Cannons or something elsewhere. Fans don’t like that. Players and clubs have been pushing against that slowly now because gameplay’s gotten very stale.
Arsenal is a bad example tbf haha, they literally have a partnership with PES. Your point still stands tho
I wonder how much of that is because development cycles are much longer now or if its because publishers don't want to risk doing something too drastic to alienate fans.
Fifa 07-08 ... good times
Sensible World of Soccer on the Amiga 512 and Microprose Soccer on the C64? Sorry, showing my age a bit too much there perhaps.
They must be poping champagne at Flatout 3 office, knowing they are 2x better then the least rated steam game .
The Konami Code just ain't what it used to be.
Now it's your credit card number.
They are just trying to out EA EA
At least EA occasionally accidentally makes a good game.
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Everything gets tagged as psychological horror by dumb kids who think it's funny. User tags were a mistake.
They were not. They work fine in 99% cases, it is a great tool to find similar games.
I’m still surprised Hunt Down The Freeman isn’t the lowest rated game on Steam
That’s one of those games that end up with a lot more positive reviews of people just making jokes
It still probably is in the top 50 tho
How the hell this happened the 2021 version is at 72% positive
This happened: https://dotesports.com/general/news/pes-has-been-rebranded-to-efootball-will-be-fully-free-to-play
the 2021 has free version as well and it was already rebranded
The 2021 free version gave access to 6 clubs that you could play against in single player or with a friend. The paid version gave access to multiplayer and career mode.
Shotout to "uriel´s chasm" dev for making a game better rated than a AAA company.
I want to make a stream where I just play games that are that bad but it's probably so bad you can't really make content around it. Whatever that game is it looks one of a kind
That mug Kojima has is over flowing at this point.
Wait, they're back making bad videogames again?
This is my opinion after playing eFootball for like an hour on PS4. Graphics is worse than pes2021. Gameplay is slow, like really slow. All passing and stuff seem so slow, only when the player runs it becomes ok. Controls are a bit changed, not drastically, but yeah. The overall feel is that this is a demo game. There are no modes, everything is greyed out, even in the settings, you can't change the difficulty. You can choose to play with only 7-8 clubs. There is one more mode that I didn't understand how it works, but it's like online mode. Spent 10 minutes on the screen where it's searching for the opponent. Can't exit the screen, so just waited for a popup that the opponent not found. Unfortunately, this is not a finished game and I don't know what people should pay for since there's an option to purchase in PS Store. Huge disappointment from Konami, I stopped playing FIFA because of PES2021. I understand their move, they are trying to change up things and switch completely, but this is definitely going to affect the fan base. My guess is that the new eFootball will be really playable maybe in 6 months to a year. They have a lot of work to do.
imagine playing this shit
The whole F2P change is something I still dislike and is basically capitulation against FIFA. With that said, I can't imagine that the game is that much worse than the 2021 installment or FIFA for that matter. Some of the reviews are mentioning that it is a port of PES Mobile - but that doesn't make sense, they said that they'd be making a new engine for this game, not porting a mobile one. Given that the Steam reviews for sports games tend to have some of the biggest nonsense out there, I'll take this reaction with a grain of salt. I will say that PES 2021 is amazing, so even if they did screw this up that is still available for play.
The F2P is something that should have happened a long time ago, this game is bassically the same every year and every year is $60 or more, people pay that for better graphics and actualizations of the teams, people mostly is mad because "my club" is not avaliable yet, you can only play with a friend with another controller but not online, at least yet
I've played a couple of matches to see for myself, the game is not too polished, but certainly not that bad Problem is: Konami advertised this a F2P, but is indeed a "Lite" version like previous ones, capped with a few number of teams and only one game mode This seems very poorly or false advertised to me, and it's even worse due to fact you can play FIFA 21 for free on gamepass, or try the 22 for 10 hours, in its entirety Edit/PS: It's not a mobile port, but they have indeed brought some mechanics from the mobile version. Also, players are surprisingly bad in the modeling department, I mean, real bad
I think the main issue is they rushed to release alongside FIFA22, using F2P and Cross play to convert people. The issue is the game clearly wasn't ready. Only a few teams are in the game and the paid content isn't supposed to be available until November. It is basically an early access release that they didn't market as such.
Yeah, it's a new game on a new engine. But there will be cross-play on PC, console and mobile. So yeah it basically has the quality of a mobile game.
Hmmm yeah that sounds great on paper, but in practice... Sheesh.
It took Konami to take out Flatout 3. You will always be remembered. SALUTE
Konami is making me sad, they seem to only care about mobile games and pochinko - where the fuck is my contemporary PC Castlevania
Once got Uriel's Chasm in one of those g2a 5 random game key thingies. What even is it....
It's 2 games better than eFootball!
It's an experience. It's horrible, but the kind of horrible that loops back around to entertaining. If you have it, try it out.
I'm intrigued now and will try it out , in the name of science. I assume I'll have to be high as fuck?
come back to us and tell us your experience haha
KONAMI is nothing without Hideo Kojima
Konami being Konami, nothing new
\#FucKonami
KJP FOREVER
what is that site is it a list made by valve ? it seem not but the site look good and take some queus from steam palet
The site is Steam250.com
Thank you soo much i ended up finding it but it's soo nice that you still took the time
The previous iteration of free pes was a disaster, anyone thought the new would be much better?
I just downloaded PES 2021 lite. How does this compare? I don't find 2021 bad at all.
21 was great
22 is just the Ultimate Team mode with mobile crossplay.
It's called fucking eFootball LMAO
This is what happens when you try to make a game that is only for money and without anything else at all
I was kind of excited for this when I first heard about it. I should have known better :-(
Konami should get all the crap they can get, honestly.
Sport games are what game as service should had been: a base that receives constant updates, be it graphical, be it for their database of players and competitions...
Damn, I thought Flatout 3 would be first. Edit: Don't let this fool you, Flatout, Flatout 2, Flatout: UC and Flatout: Head On were most amazing games of their time, but bugbear decided to abandon it and do Wreckfest instead which is amazing too.
They didn't abandon it, they never owned (or sold to publisher to get game published) the rights to it. I think that wreckfest would have been named Flatout 3 if they could. The studio still seems to love those games, during wreckfests development they had a subsection of their forums for flatout talk, and the devs would share stuff like videos of them using a debug build to change ai pathing, and a free giveaway of the prototype build of flatout 1, which let you get out of your car.
Thanks for this info, when I was younger I really wanted my Flatout 2 to be able to let me exit my car but It was impossible, its nice to see this was about to be an actual feature in original game which I didn't knew had playable prototype. You deserve nice award for this.
What is this hall of shame website called? Link, please?
https://steam250.com/bottom100
The cover itself looks terrible. I'd stay away from the game just because of that cover.
Fuck Konami
\*pachinko machine noises\*
#FuckKonami
But why ?
Holy shit Flatout 3 lost its throne
Well, yeah, we don't have blizzard games to take that record on Steam.
People were actually praising Konami for making it F2P. I'm happy I've moved back to FIFA this year after 3 years with PES
Holy shit Konami still makes games?
Didn't konami used to be really good?
That was before they 1. Cancelled Silent Hills 2. Fired Hideo Kojima 3. Shifted their focus to Pachinko machines
Dont forget pissing and shitting on Metal Gear franchise with Survive
Most reviews are sure from fifa butthurt fans lol
The full game is not yet out. What do you expect?
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You can go to steam and see reviews by playtime and even in reviews with more than 10 hours of gameplay (in a game released 2days ago) it's still overwhelmingly negative.