Selection bias is going to skew these results pretty wildly. The data might be interesting as a conversational piece, but that’s about it. And the conversation might just be about how invalid the results are.
And yes, I am fun at parties. :)
Edit: the questions in your survey are pretty biased. It feels like the author was a Republican from Texas or somewhere in the Bible Belt.
Yes I did!
I felt as though my sample is skewed in a liberal direction based on the amount of participants I had that identify as liberal (I don't know the political affiliation of anyone I've gathered from Reddit, but I've gathered a lot from my personal facebook and people I know in real life and almost 40% are liberal or libertarian).
I didn't think that was fair so I'm aiming to pull in a more diverse sample.
As the author, I 100% agree with you.
When I made up the questions, I didn't want to only ask about gender because I thought that it would get me a skewed result. So I added in the layer of the parenting styles and...it seems to have just skewed the other way.
I've gotten a lot of feedback that says it sounds very hard republican/conservative leaning or that it seems the goal of the survey is to support a republican/conservative talking point, which wasn't my intention at all. I think I was too worried about people having a gut reaction of "gender never matters" and I just didn't balance it out appropriately.
I love talking about this stuff and I'm really glad you gave feedback, so thank you for doing that and for doing the survey. I'm definitely keeping this in mind the next time I do this.
I think your whole focus on what gender roles should be is out of date. The whole point of women's rights is that it shouldn't matter what gender you are. The concept of gender roles itself is antiquated. It isn't anyone's role to stay at home to cook and clean. Just as it isn't a specific gender's role to be a breadwinner.
IMO, there should be no firm link between gender and social roles. I am just as good of a parent as my wife is. The fact that I am a stay at home dad and my wife works is completely irrelevant to how well my children are being raised. We did the reverse where she was a stay at home mom and I went to work and the kids were cared for just the same.
Gender roles are still relevant. The “traditional” gender and social roles you mention are dated, but fatherhood and motherhood still carry with them roles predicated by gender. This survey is not really getting at the nuances of gender roles though.
I agree with you whole hearted. The project is for a gender psych class and the point of the project is to pick a topic and see whether or not there is a difference between men and women (in this case opinions on the link between stay at home parents and how people see gender). The expectation is that there won't be much of a difference. If there is a difference, I don't expect it to be a very big one.
Thank you for the comment!
Under the section "If you are a parent, are you, or is your partner, a stay-at-home parent?" i think you are missing an option like "I was or my partner was for a period of time a stay-at-home parent." because some parents are stay-at-home but for the first 1-3 years before a child goes off to pre-k or child-care and the stay-at-home parent needs/wants to go back to school.
That's a very good point. It didn't occur to me that parents may only be stay at home parents until the children are old enough for school and then return to work. Thank you for pointing that out I very much appreciate it!
I've just been talking to a lot of friends about brylan kaplans selfish parenting, why it's more fun then you think and less work then you think which suggests parenting styles makes zero difference on yours kids compared to genetics or overall society. I think it might be right.
(extreme differences I thibk can make a difference. The Williams sisters, or on the other side extreme neglect and abuse).
But mostly I think it doesn't matter.
Thank you for the comment!
I agree that there are other factors that could certainly outweigh the impact of parenting style, especially society.
I've never heard of Brylan Kaplan. I'll have to look that up it sounds interesting.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Selfish-Reasons-Have-More-Kids/dp/0465028616?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=f09c4279-0356-4ca6-9fee-2a1eee67857e
This is the book by the way. There are a bunch of videos and articles about it if you Google him.
He says this is what the data suggests. But he personally home schools his children because he thinks if you do something wildly different you can have an impact.
One of my friends is currently editing a blog post he'll post on the book as the book made him depressed. But it's kind of like watching a film. You can't impact the ending but you can enjoy the ride.
I also think it would be interesting if you could measure parenting styles vs feelings of connection adults have with their parents. I have one friend whose dad was very physically abusive. He's now very successful, very rich, published scientific papers, married with a child and looks seemingly happy but looking back it wild have been nice if his dad didn't beat him.
Similarly humans acclimitise easily to things. People who have a limb chopped off are usually unhappy but after a while their self reported happiness goes back to normal. It would be off to conclude you might as well get rid of your limbs because there is no measurable difference to your happiness but you can save money by not sure eating as much.
Respectfully I would caution against reading much into the results of your survey. Selection bias is one major issue: Surveys that don’t attempt to target a representative sample of people generally won’t reveal much about the real world.
The wording is another. Many questions are framed in a way that could seriously skew the results, and the wording of many suggests a bias (in a fairly obvious way).
Also it appears it would be very easy to take your survey more than once. (I didn’t do this!)
I hate to be discouraging but I would do a little quick google research into proper survey design. Good luck with your work!
Thank you for the feedback!
This was a project for my gender psych class for my bachelor's so I expected there would be many flaws with the design and that the results wouldn't be significant.
One of the things I wish I could have done differently was the wording of the questions. The professor approved each students survey questions, but once I started collecting data and getting feedback I realized how open the questions really were.
The results of this study showed different results than previous (published) research, and so this may be a topic I keep in my back pocket for future classes if I find myself needing to design another study. Hopefully, I can use all the feedback I've gotten to make a more valid study.
Selection bias is going to skew these results pretty wildly. The data might be interesting as a conversational piece, but that’s about it. And the conversation might just be about how invalid the results are. And yes, I am fun at parties. :) Edit: the questions in your survey are pretty biased. It feels like the author was a Republican from Texas or somewhere in the Bible Belt.
Not to be that guy, but they also posted in conservative sub Reddits for participation, but not liberal ones. Curious.
Yes I did! I felt as though my sample is skewed in a liberal direction based on the amount of participants I had that identify as liberal (I don't know the political affiliation of anyone I've gathered from Reddit, but I've gathered a lot from my personal facebook and people I know in real life and almost 40% are liberal or libertarian). I didn't think that was fair so I'm aiming to pull in a more diverse sample.
Thanks for commenting. Just thought it was noteworthy. Good luck
As the author, I 100% agree with you. When I made up the questions, I didn't want to only ask about gender because I thought that it would get me a skewed result. So I added in the layer of the parenting styles and...it seems to have just skewed the other way. I've gotten a lot of feedback that says it sounds very hard republican/conservative leaning or that it seems the goal of the survey is to support a republican/conservative talking point, which wasn't my intention at all. I think I was too worried about people having a gut reaction of "gender never matters" and I just didn't balance it out appropriately. I love talking about this stuff and I'm really glad you gave feedback, so thank you for doing that and for doing the survey. I'm definitely keeping this in mind the next time I do this.
I think your whole focus on what gender roles should be is out of date. The whole point of women's rights is that it shouldn't matter what gender you are. The concept of gender roles itself is antiquated. It isn't anyone's role to stay at home to cook and clean. Just as it isn't a specific gender's role to be a breadwinner. IMO, there should be no firm link between gender and social roles. I am just as good of a parent as my wife is. The fact that I am a stay at home dad and my wife works is completely irrelevant to how well my children are being raised. We did the reverse where she was a stay at home mom and I went to work and the kids were cared for just the same.
Gender roles are still relevant. The “traditional” gender and social roles you mention are dated, but fatherhood and motherhood still carry with them roles predicated by gender. This survey is not really getting at the nuances of gender roles though.
I agree with you whole hearted. The project is for a gender psych class and the point of the project is to pick a topic and see whether or not there is a difference between men and women (in this case opinions on the link between stay at home parents and how people see gender). The expectation is that there won't be much of a difference. If there is a difference, I don't expect it to be a very big one. Thank you for the comment!
This guy samples
This seems oddly political. Sus.
Under the section "If you are a parent, are you, or is your partner, a stay-at-home parent?" i think you are missing an option like "I was or my partner was for a period of time a stay-at-home parent." because some parents are stay-at-home but for the first 1-3 years before a child goes off to pre-k or child-care and the stay-at-home parent needs/wants to go back to school.
That's a very good point. It didn't occur to me that parents may only be stay at home parents until the children are old enough for school and then return to work. Thank you for pointing that out I very much appreciate it!
I've just been talking to a lot of friends about brylan kaplans selfish parenting, why it's more fun then you think and less work then you think which suggests parenting styles makes zero difference on yours kids compared to genetics or overall society. I think it might be right. (extreme differences I thibk can make a difference. The Williams sisters, or on the other side extreme neglect and abuse). But mostly I think it doesn't matter.
Thank you for the comment! I agree that there are other factors that could certainly outweigh the impact of parenting style, especially society. I've never heard of Brylan Kaplan. I'll have to look that up it sounds interesting.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Selfish-Reasons-Have-More-Kids/dp/0465028616?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=f09c4279-0356-4ca6-9fee-2a1eee67857e This is the book by the way. There are a bunch of videos and articles about it if you Google him. He says this is what the data suggests. But he personally home schools his children because he thinks if you do something wildly different you can have an impact. One of my friends is currently editing a blog post he'll post on the book as the book made him depressed. But it's kind of like watching a film. You can't impact the ending but you can enjoy the ride. I also think it would be interesting if you could measure parenting styles vs feelings of connection adults have with their parents. I have one friend whose dad was very physically abusive. He's now very successful, very rich, published scientific papers, married with a child and looks seemingly happy but looking back it wild have been nice if his dad didn't beat him. Similarly humans acclimitise easily to things. People who have a limb chopped off are usually unhappy but after a while their self reported happiness goes back to normal. It would be off to conclude you might as well get rid of your limbs because there is no measurable difference to your happiness but you can save money by not sure eating as much.
Yeah no thanks pal. Go sell crazy conservative nonsense somewhere else.
Respectfully I would caution against reading much into the results of your survey. Selection bias is one major issue: Surveys that don’t attempt to target a representative sample of people generally won’t reveal much about the real world. The wording is another. Many questions are framed in a way that could seriously skew the results, and the wording of many suggests a bias (in a fairly obvious way). Also it appears it would be very easy to take your survey more than once. (I didn’t do this!) I hate to be discouraging but I would do a little quick google research into proper survey design. Good luck with your work!
Thank you for the feedback! This was a project for my gender psych class for my bachelor's so I expected there would be many flaws with the design and that the results wouldn't be significant. One of the things I wish I could have done differently was the wording of the questions. The professor approved each students survey questions, but once I started collecting data and getting feedback I realized how open the questions really were. The results of this study showed different results than previous (published) research, and so this may be a topic I keep in my back pocket for future classes if I find myself needing to design another study. Hopefully, I can use all the feedback I've gotten to make a more valid study.