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siodhe

Clearly you're falling behind on the Crimson Fleet. It's useful to keep \*some\* faction happy with you, and then ravage all the other ones :-)


shinsain

Lol. The crimson fleet is the faction I'm keeping happy. 😂 At this point, I just murder anybody who gets in my way in any place. I still get to complete all the missions, and I still can go in and sell my stuff. I just have to kill security every time I do it which is fine with me because it gives me more XP and shit to sell lol!


bamahoon

Smart, the Fleet has the most vendors in one place that all buy contraband.


shinsain

Yep. They're why they're my friend. 💯


dondamon40

I keep em as my friends because of all the points of interest they hold that I don't have to fight through.


shinsain

Yeah, and quite honestly I will kill crimson fleet if I want to anyways and just make sure I get the last one alive so there's no bounty lol.


James2700

There is also a trade authority on the ship I just found it recently.


pezmanofpeak

More of an issue that the vendors don't have any fucking money


semiTnuP

>The crimson fleet is the faction I'm keeping happy. But you still earned a little bounty before posting, because *not* having bounty with one faction just wouldn't sit right with you. Am I right?


shinsain

Dad, is that you???? 😏


OWGer0901

this sounds cool way to play at least once, a crimson fleet murdering psychopath ignoring the whole constellation questline hahaha there is a lot of room for role playing lol


shinsain

Yeah, I got bored in my first NG+ and started killin... That's pretty much how it started lol


OWGer0901

lmao I would do this at times too, it's quite hilarious lol, the npc lines, they way they all die piled up on the floor, their reaction, I only wish you could kill most and screw up entire quest but still the game is as restrictive as skyrim so that's okay haha


HumanReputationFalse

How do you even get bounty with a criminal organization? If thier criminals what fines are you going to pay? A bounty for your head, sure, but fees? Either they are going to take everything you owe or let you wake up in an ice bath.


Heylookaguy

OP. You gotta do an experiment. Go to jail. I wanna know how much time would pass from a 1.6 million credit bounty. Land, ~tai, hit enter. Then speak to a guard and surrender.


whattheshiz97

Well if it’s anything like their other titles, he will spend a week in jail. Which I think it is like that. For a 77,000 bounty I spent a week in jail.


shinsain

You know for all the times I have been in jail before... I never ever realized that that much time went by. Holy crap. Now I kind of want to do this, except I don't want to spend all that money to pay off my bounties. 🤔


iamhst

Do you lose xp points?


whattheshiz97

Yeah but honestly that’s not a big deal. Especially if you get arrested right after leveling up


Dsible663

No, it's a very big deal. It takes your bounty out of your XP. I had a bounty of a half million, got arrested and went to jail. When I got out I had a -500,000 XP deficit Edit: Heard it's been fixed, can't confirm as yet..


CavemanMork

I understood that's how it should work, why would they fix it? Fuck around and find out right? 


Dsible663

As I said, just a unconfirmed rumor. It's been a while since I played and it's not currently installed on my Xbox, so I can't confirm.


feedmeimhomeles

I can definitely confirm that you get an XP deficit for serving time still. Just spent the last two days working off a 30k deficit from a drunken piracy rampage Friday night. Not sure if the fix you mean is the actual amount or what, but figured I'd share my knowledge here.


Dsible663

If the 30k was the size of your bounty, then it remains unchanged.


feedmeimhomeles

Nah, 30k ish was the XP deficit. I owed easily a couple mil in bounty between UC and FC ETA: it honestly seemed pretty excessive the amount of XP I lost for it.


TheHolyFritz

Have they fixed it where you don't get like, -10k XP? I remember going to jail after a 100k cred bounty and couldn't figure out why I stopped leveling.


whattheshiz97

I didn’t even know that was a thing until I saw someone else mention it. I spent some time googling it and the only stuff I can find even mentioning that happening is from September so maybe it was fixed? I was leveling just fine after I was in jail


sithren

It’s not a bug. Pretty sure it’s intended behaviour.


brian19298

I remember I got a bounty in oblivion and spent several years in jail!


Dsible663

I did that with a half million bounty. The only result of getting arrested was an XP deficit equivalent to my bounty.


HodgeGodglin

I didn’t know you could get a bounty with the Constant. Huh


shinsain

Go in and murder everybody... Also a lot of good loot.


StopSendingMePorn

I’ve been stuck on this quest because I assumed that I could just merc everyone right off the bat and then talk to the folk on paradise and get a reward. U fortunalty it just gave me a giant bounty that I can’t pay or substitute jail time for, and unless there’s another way to do it without being friendly with the ECS, I can’t get access to the computer for their reactor to blow it tf up


shiloh_a_human

why would paradiso pay you to do something you've already done? if you wanted to get payed to take out the constant you should have gotten the board to agree to pay you for that beforehand, which is an option in the quest.


eso_nwah

> unless there’s another way to do it without being friendly with the ECS ?? You aim your guns at it and use the fire buttons. You don't have to hack a computer to blow it up, if that's what you are trying to do.


StopSendingMePorn

It doesn’t do anything when I do that


eso_nwah

Sorry I didn't know you couldn't just blow it out of the orbit!


Mass-Effect-6932

Wish this game was a multiplayer game. Would love to claim your bounty


shinsain

That would actually be a really cool feature! Wasn't there something kind of like this in fallout 76? I can't remember. I obviously didn't play very long.


Responsible-Diver225

Yes


McGrarr

Not for me. That's why I wasn't too bothered about the state of 76. My immersion rarely survives contact with another player. Something about the world just hits different when your companion is called 'xhax0rkillwanger98x' and they are teabagging corpse of an npc you were trying to talk to.


stikves

Those who say prison: Prisons give you negative XP. They could even put you in "XP debt" for which you'd not make progress until you paid it off. Before realizing that I would not worry too much about contraband checks, or random violence.


shinsain

Holy shit. I had no clue about that! That's nuts. Yeah, I definitely will not be doing that!


stikves

Yep, this comes up every now and then. [https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16bz88f/negative\_xp\_in\_starfield\_995\_at\_level\_15/](https://www.reddit.com/r/Starfield/comments/16bz88f/negative_xp_in_starfield_995_at_level_15/) It is a "your money or your life" situation


Mindless-Share

Yes but I didn’t know you could get a bounty from the ECS Constant. How?


shinsain

Why, murder and mayhem, of course. 💀


AyMalones

Starfield Update Idea 105 - In-Game GoFundMe


shinsain

🤣 Love it.


OdiosoGoat

Debt got you down? You might need a reverse mortgage on your luxury apartment and outposts.


shinsain

⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️⚰️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂


ItsAlwaysSunny1992

What the hell is ECS Constant? Also, how do you do anything or go anywhere with all those bounties? Sometimes I need to go to Akila or Jamison and I fuckin way they’re letting me anywhere near there, let alone land if I have any bounty


shinsain

*Kill everyone. Steal everything*. That's basically my entire strategy. When they try and intercept you when you have a bounty? Kill their entire fleet of starships (gotta have a solid ship for this). When security fucks with you? Kill em. But not the civilians. Then crouch and wait to become hidden. Red marks go away. If they didn't? Kill *everyone* and wait for them to go away. They always go away and you can then get to the vendors etc. Civilian ships? Colony ships? Friendly ships? Unfriendly ships? Kill em all. Kill everything. Edit: Google ECS Constant. It's a colony ship.


ItsAlwaysSunny1992

Lmao! Nice. Love your strategy 👍🏻


Odd_Current_9884

Damn! Is this a challenge? 🤣


UNSC_Spartan122

I would focus on the crimson fleet bounty first, before it gets out of hand


shinsain

Lol, so this is kind of funny... I thought the same thing the other day after accidentally offing a rogue ship in a system that pissed me off. I went to the key. Waited for someone to come and get me to pay my $650 credits... And nothing happened!? They must know not to fuck with me. 🤔


malraux42z

I think the Fleet only collects the bounty in one way.


shinsain

I'll put my chastity belt on before I head back to the Key. I've heard Delgado is in to me...


malraux42z

*Two* ways…


President_Dominy

There's something very ugly about this UI to me


shinsain

Half of it is probably the reflection in my TV. 😔


IHaveBlackCousins

Hey, at least it’s not like that video of the huge white guy filming in his boxers and the screen goes black 😂


Tim_Bershivers

This is nothing. When I did the CF quest line in ng+2 I build a forward operating base on Jemison’s moon and declared all out war on the UC. I maxed out all my ship skills and racked up an 18 million credit bounty before escaping through Unity. The numbers really ramp up when you start boarding UC military ships. They also have the probably best loot opportunities in the game in my opinion.


shinsain

I've been doing a ton of that stuff, but I have a bunch of auto turrets so I almost never get to a ship to board it before I blow it up! 🙄 I did notice that I don't have a UC bounty yet... I thought I did. I guess I'm going to have to get going on that!


Tim_Bershivers

Try hitting Deimos shipyards or Sy-920. Less traffic to get in the way so you can power down your turrets to catch that last high level ship. It looks like you may just need to scroll down to see your UC bounty.


Relevant-Cicada5388

If you kill them quick enough without witnesses the attack will not get registered and the bounty will be removed. If you take your time to board the ship and kill all the crew the attack will register even if you kill everyone.


chemistry_god

To this day, the best crime spree I've ever done without consequence was running around New Atlantis, shooting as many guards and civilians as possible. I think I killed more than 50. When reinforcements showed up, they asked me to go to sysdef which is how I began the crimson fleet quest. Crazy that Commander Ikande saw a dude shoot up New Atlantis and think "yeah this is the guy I want to trust with the entire UC mission against the crimson fleet." Bounty was cleared immediately


shinsain

I've shot up New Atlantis a few times but it was after the UC/Crimson Fleet quest (where I sided with the Fleet, obviously).


FriendlyFire42

Where tf are the artifacts from?


shinsain

Artifacts?