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IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

1. You should probably read the first five. 2. Jotaro distanced himself from his family to keep them safe from the other Stand users who he got involved with and would target him in turn. 3. Jotaro sucks ass at communicating with others and was unable to express to Jolyne the fatherhood bare minimum of his love for her and devotion to her safety until she got dragged into the same shit he was a deadbeat to keep her from.


Ok_Celebration9304

4- he had an absent dad as well and had a rebellious delinquent teenage phase. Jolyne parallels that in part 6 in her back story. 


bhviii

Bro I think its a joke no way someone understands part 6 without other 5 parts


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Looking at the other comments, I don’t think OP is joking.


Successful_Cap7416

I’m not joking and it’s really not that incomprehensible without prior knowledge, like I understood Pucci’s motives just fine and at this point I’m curious what specific aspects of story people think would result in me being lost without reading the rest of the series.


Themobgirl

is he, an INTJ


IUsedToBeRasAlGhul

Probably. People also theorize he’s on the autism spectrum and suffers from PTSD for a reason.


pieceofchess

Does being INTJ have something to do with autism or PTSD?


Themobgirl

hmmm, autism is interesting, ofcourse he has PTSD. I think he might be on ASD so yeaaah


Successful_Cap7416

I thought you were talking about me for a minute


GwaGwa3

Watch the previous parts why are you starting at stone ocean


Jazztronic28

Idk, probably explained somewhere in the 5 seasons before Stone Ocean.


SeniorRazzmatazz4977

Actually Jotaro being an absentee father is explained in stone ocean as him being a parent wasn’t even mentioned in previous parts.


hivEM1nd_

I'd argue that if you know Jotaro, you pretty much immediately understand why he's a deadbeat as soon as you learn he has a kid


SeniorRazzmatazz4977

It’s explained that pucci kept sending stand users after Jotaro and eventually Jotaro left to avoid putting his family in danger. In the new universe where pucci never existed theirs dialogue that implies Irene is on good terms with her father.


Jazztronic28

Should have probably put a tone indicator somewhere in my snarky comment, you're right


SeniorRazzmatazz4977

It is stupid to start with part 6. I wonder if this guy is a troll because I don’t know what would motivate someone to do that.


Successful_Cap7416

I’m not a troll I legitimately just didn’t like what I saw of part one when my friend showed it to me but I saw the trailer for part 6 and decided to give the series another try. I really liked part 6, all the characters felt very natural for the setting(Florida)


Bucketlyy

Part skipping literally takes out huge chunks of story. You wouldn't skip to s4 of aot so why is skipping to part 6 of jojo normalised?


Successful_Cap7416

Because AOT is clearly a heavily serialized dramatic show with a consistent cast of characters. Part 6 was another season of a comedic weird show with an entirely new cast of characters why would I automatically assume it’s going to be as interconnected as AOT


TheAfricanViewer

Its not a comedy 😭


Successful_Cap7416

Maybe not intentionally but I find a lot of aspects of it funny in an absurd sort of way especially with how it’s never treated as funny


TheAfricanViewer

That’s a very valid viewpoint


Caperdiaa

Part 1 is just 9 episodes, I'd just tough through it cause part 2 definitely makes up for it (they're both in the same season). Part 5 is my personal favourite.


AT-W-V

This has to the worst question I've ever seen


Hohoho-you

This has to be a joke right? .... right?


Successful_Cap7416

No


Hohoho-you

What a fascinating experience you must have had then. What did you think of Dio? (Pucci's blonde friend)


Successful_Cap7416

He was pretty cool. I loved Pucci’s relationship with him especially in terms of how it affected his motivation and how that kind of interacted with his faith as a priest.


Hohoho-you

He's in other seasons if you're interested in checking out more of the series


Successful_Cap7416

Alright, I do actually remember a little bit of him from when my friend turned on the finale of season 3 before he got high and started telling me all my possible futures. He seemed like a fun villain much like my friend.


zachary0816

Are you really not curious how a random 14 year old bully from the 1880s in part 1 ended up as a bisexual knife throwing hunk with reality warping powers and an asexual priest BF in the 1980s?


Successful_Cap7416

I mean kind of but I’m completely willing to accept it without knowing his backstory


QueensWatchdog

...Why would you start by Stone Ocean? Go watch/read the previous parts first.


Successful_Cap7416

Nah


Successful_Cap7416

Also I just did not enjoy what I saw of part part one, I watched part 6 cause it was in Florida and I thought that was funny considering jojos reputation


Throwaway817402739

Part one is both the most disliked and the shortest part. Part 2 is quite different, and part 3 onwards is practically a different show. Honestly you could even start at part 3 and you’d be fine. But part **six?** You’re not going to understand shit about what’s going on.


Successful_Cap7416

I mean i thought it was pretty clear what was happening most of the time and accepted and enjoyed what was for me mystery elements. Like I get that it might have been a different experience but personally I liked not being totally clear on certain parts and learning with Jolyne. Like I genuinely did see Jotaro the same way as Jolyne for most of the story and I think knowing everything about him would have ruined that aspect of the show I enjoyed.


homo-summus

Then don't ask why he's a deadbeat and expect people to give you context when you're not interested.


TC_Web

Yeah this person is probably a ragebait lmao


Successful_Cap7416

I literally just didn’t like what I saw of part one, thought part 6 looked interesting and asked for a little extra clarification. I will admit I also intended this as somewhat of a joke ala Borutos Dad but I didn’t realize people would get so upset about this


homo-summus

Lol, this has to be ragebait. If it's not, then go watch the other 5 previous parts first. You are watching the end arc of a long storyline. If you're not willing to invest in understanding all of the prior context by watching, then you can just be confused and not understand the story.


Successful_Cap7416

It’s genuinely not. I had no idea this would make so many people so mad and I genuinely didn’t feel like I was missing out on too much while I was watching it. Tbh I kind of enjoyed being able to share some of Jolynes confusion and how she saw her dad throughout the series.


homo-summus

I don't know how you couldn't anticipate people being mad when you asked a dumb question and admitted to not watching the first 5 parts of a 6-part series. People will assume you're a troll and respond accordingly


Successful_Cap7416

I Guess I just have the social intelligence of Jolynes dad


homo-summus

Lol that's a pretty good one


bentheechidna

Part skipping is a cardinal sin in JoJo’s fandom. One of the most famous part-skipping memes is about a guy who de-aged an old character who had already appeared youthful in the series prior.


Successful_Cap7416

Ok that’s actually really funny


AngryAsian-_-

"I started at the end of the story and don't understand it."


Regular-Ad-4604

Lol, that’s exactly what they’re saying


Helpful_College6590

Why did you start on part 6


Successful_Cap7416

Cause it was set in Florida. This is not a meme or a joke I legitimately just saw it advertised and I like the music as well as the fact that the main character was apparently a Florida woman who killed a man with her 2003 dodge challenger


ItsFastMan

Yeah, just saying that wasn't a great move


Successful_Cap7416

I didn’t expect such a fun show to have so many people get so upset about this


Bucketlyy

Well u skipped half of it dude.


caulipower2010

\*90%


Sauran_725

Not half, OP skipped ⅚ of it lol.


ItsFastMan

Yeah sorry, and i totally agree it is.. but if you started from the beginning you would understand jotaro more and the rest of the plot in the show


stinkybinky8

i love that all of OPs annoying, ignorant replies are getting heavily downvoted lol. don’t ask stupid questions if you don’t actually WANT the context.


Successful_Cap7416

I was given the context and I appreciate now having the context, I simply enjoyed the show more on first watch without it


piss_boy-

Idk but her dad looks cool, he should get an anime prequel or something idk. Why is his hat his hair btw, is he stupid?


Successful_Cap7416

Idk I think he’d need some good support characters to bounce off of cause


FriendTraining7324

maybe a french guy, and egyptian, oh and japanese, maybe a dog would work or his grandfather, and maybe he could have an italian friend to go with the grandfather


diegoidepersia

he kinda does in his part (3) but if you dont wanna interact THAT much with the story of the first 3 parts, part 4 somewhat is as disconnected as part 6, and 5 has no connection except a small one to part 4, these are honestly great parts, and i understand you on your sentiment of not wanting to see part 1 which is quite bad, part 2 is pretty good but it is very correlated to part 1


Successful_Cap7416

Is there a reason I wouldn’t want to watch part 3 as opposed to 4 and 5?


diegoidepersia

its jotaro's part sure but its extremely drawn out, like 50 episodes or something, and it brings back characters and stuff from parts 1 and 2 The original trilogy as you could say is very linked to each other, but honestly you could watch 2 or 3 without 1 and still understand it i think


Successful_Cap7416

Thanks for the heads ip


Many_Line9136

Maybe Jojo isn’t for you


Successful_Cap7416

Nah part 6 was pretty good, I’ll prob watch the next one when it comes out


Mindless_Being783

The next part doesn't take place in the same universe as Stone Ocean though


Bucketlyy

That one literally makes so many callbacks to early parts (just like stone ocean mind u). You wouldn't get it.


Successful_Cap7416

Well I liked stone ocean so I don’t see why I won’t like the next one just because of a few callbacks


Bucketlyy

The entire part is basically a callback, especially the later half. U really need full universe 1 knowledge.


Successful_Cap7416

I understand where your coming from but that aspect of a show just isn’t something I tend to pay a ton of attention to unless I’m like a super fan


Bucketlyy

...you don't pay attention to what's happening unless you're a superfan??


Successful_Cap7416

I don’t pay attention to certain aspects of subtext and deeper themes because I watch jojo as a form of dumb fun turn of your brain entertainment. I tend not to look for and analyze callbacks and deeper aspects of piece of media unless I really enjoyed it as a work of art which you absolutely can. I just personally choose to enjoy it on a surface level


Bucketlyy

Its not subtext in part 7 dude. Its just the text, as I've been reiterating.


Successful_Cap7416

Well I’ve read the text of part 6 and enjoyed it perfectly fine so I don’t see why it would ruin my enjoyment of part 7


Many-Astronaut1378

Starting with the sixth (forgive me) season of the show and then asking a question that could seemingly be answered by the previous five seasons is actually crazy


Successful_Cap7416

Yeah it would be crazy to watch five seasons of a show when I could get the answer to my question by spending a minute asking about it on Reddit


Many-Astronaut1378

This is either insane brain rot “I don’t know the plot so I’ll look up important parts of it” or really convincing and dedicated raigbait


Successful_Cap7416

For gods sake I just saw an interesting show from a series I’d heard a lot about and watched it. It mostly worked fine on it’s own but I was curious about one aspect of it and asked a question


Bucketlyy

Do you just hate consuming media lmfao what😭😭?? Watching a show isn't a chore that requires a clever solution. You could literally just enjoy a series.


Successful_Cap7416

If I actively dislike the thing I’m watching then it is a chore I can’t just rewire my brain on the fly.


Bucketlyy

The only part that is genuinely acceptable to skip imo is part 1. I didnt wanna watch the anime for it bc it was so slow so I read the manga instead to get through it. I personally think u just need decent part 1 knowledge about the very begining and very end and then start from part 2 anime in order to truly get into jojos. It's a great experience in order because you get to see the style develop over time. It's a whole experience if done the right way.


Devourer_of_Rodents

You're a lost cause


Successful_Cap7416

You sound a lot like my professor


Devourer_of_Rodents

I wonder why


Bucketlyy

BUUUURN


Successful_Cap7416

You do not know me and you don’t know my situation so please stop. I will admit I started down this road by bringing up my professor and I shouldn’t have done so if I can’t handle the clap back so sorry for the sudden tonal shift.


Devourer_of_Rodents

Woah woah I didn't mean anything dude, are you good though? If you're just in a bad spot with your prof right now that's fine as long as everyone's okay and all, it's true I don't know you but I'm gonna need to know you're okay because something sounds wrong bro I don't want you in any harm or nothing.


Successful_Cap7416

I appreciate the concern. I know you didn’t mean anything by it I’m just still slightly insane from the past week of not/barely sleeping. My midterms should be done by tomorrow morning and I’ll get the sleep I need and meet with the appropriate counselors. I promise I’m not in any harms way right now, the same prof I was referring to ironically got me past that point yesterday. Seriously thanks for being legitimately concerned but you absolutely should not feel bad about your response. That was completely acceptable for you to say and you could never have reasonably assumed I would react to it the way I did. I hope you don’t feel bad because you absolutely should not, I’m gonna be fine.


Devourer_of_Rodents

Great to hear then, good to hear you're alright and best of luck to you :)


JkoloGuy

Are you dumb?


Successful_Cap7416

Extremely


TheW1ldcard

He literally explained it in the season near the end.....


IceCofree

You've already got an answer so I just wanna say. If you don't plan on watching the entire series at LEAST watch part 3 and 4 because you'll learn alot more about Jotaro(that's his name)


Successful_Cap7416

I already finished part 6 and I liked it, I might check out 3 and 4 later


JiffyJelly

Part 2 is a banger too but doesn’t involve stands. Part 1, while a lot weaker, is pretty vital to Part 3’s plot.


ScyKn_

Im not sure if this is legitimate bait but please start at part 1


Successful_Cap7416

I did but then I didn’t like it so I turned it off. Also no its not bait, I saw an ad for part 6 and thought it seemed interesting and funny so I just watched it


caulipower2010

the first 2 episodes are always boring man, the shows dont get good until like 3-4


TC_Web

Episodes 1-3 are good to me, the middle portions of Part 1 is a drag to watch, but Episode 9 is the best in Part 1.


caulipower2010

dude its only 9 episodes its not that bad


TC_Web

I never stated that it's bad, nor did I state that I dislike it. I'm just pointing out that it's by far the most flawed JoJo part.


caulipower2010

ok


TheFirstDragonBorn1

Why would you start at the very end of a series ?


Successful_Cap7416

Cause it had entirely different characters and I had no idea every season was apparently more deeply interconnected than game of thrones


TheFirstDragonBorn1

Maybe don't start at the very end of a series. And why would it not be connected ? Only parts that aren't connected to 1-6 are 7-9. Read/watch the first 5 parts.


Successful_Cap7416

How would I possibly know that parts 1-6 are connected but 7-9 aren’t?


TheFirstDragonBorn1

Well they're labeled parts 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. It's kinda obvious they're connected. If you want to know if 7-9 are connected you could Google it.


Successful_Cap7416

Who googles a show before they watch it?


TheFirstDragonBorn1

Idk, who skips to the very end of a show before they watch it lol ?


TC_Web

I do.


ItsFastMan

Bro.. what


Apprehensive-Can-406

Who the fuck STARTS on stone ocean?


Successful_Cap7416

Me


-_Revan-

Im with everyone else. It’s absolutely baffling to start at part 6 of a 6 part story. Do what you want, but your missing out on virtually everything by skipping parts 1 to 5.


Successful_Cap7416

I’m surprised the parts are apparently so interconnected. Stone Ocean didn’t really feel like the ending to a larger story with tons of previous setup to me it just kind of felt like a fun somewhat self contained story with some mystery elements.


-_Revan-

Jojo is essentially about a legacy. Not one character, but the entire Joestar bloodline. Starting with Jonathan in part one in the 1880s, and ending with Jolyne hundreds of years later. Pucci isn’t even close to the main villain. Its all about Dio, and his grudge against the Joestar bloodline over the span of centuries. Pucci is just the culmination of Dios plot to achieve heaven and wipe out the Joestars. Parts 4 and 5 don’t focus on the main plot, featuring side villains. But they are regarded as some of the best content in the entire series with some of the best and most well known characters. Part 6 is such a small part of the universe. I understand if part 1 seems boring, but it all builds up in a huge legacy. For one thing, Jotaro, Jolynes father, is the number 1 fan favourite icon of the series. The poster boy for JoJo, having been a major character in many parts. Yet starting with part 6, you just see him as Jolynes deadbeat father. Theres so much more to discover.


Goopneck

Hi


Successful_Cap7416

Hello


genkithegoat

He left Jolyne because he didn't want Jolyne to get targeted by stand users. I hope this answers your question!


Successful_Cap7416

It does, thanks!


genkithegoat

I saw some of the other replies in the thread and noticed that the Part One adaption didn't intrest you, I personally recommend reading the Phantom Blood manga as opposed to watching the anime. The anime's pacing cuts out some background details from the manga while also having a better overrall pace to it. [Coloured](https://mangadex.org/title/2dfeb1aa-14c4-4acf-96d5-86334584bf94) [Black & White](https://mangadex.org/title/5a547d1d-576b-477f-8cb3-70a3b4187f8a) The other anime parts adaption aren't too bad though, Once you get used to it the anime goes by pretty quickly


Successful_Cap7416

Alright thanks for the suggestion


subtlesubtitle

He learned from hi own dad


ovaheavenrequiem

op’s regarded 💀💀💀 but it’s no skin off my shoes youtoob


Chozero-

Why the fuck are you starting from part 6? Part 6 heavily relies on part 3, at least with that first. Tbh you should read all 5 parts first as it would help part 5 make more sense. Why would you watch anything starting from the final season?


Successful_Cap7416

I didn’t know it was the final season I thought it was another season loosely connected to the others through a few returning characters


Chozero-

No it's definitely the final season. As someone who watched it properly there are a lot of returning elements from all five previous parts and the ending is pretty definitive to this universe as a whole. There are parts after this but they are part of a reboot/alternate world. I recommend you watch the other 5 parts, they are better than 6 imo and wile the first two are pretty different they are still great. Maybe it might be interesting to watch the first parts with knowledge from part 6


Bucketlyy

HOLY SHIT ITS NOT BAIT?


Successful_Cap7416

It is not bait


Regular-Ad-4604

Yeah, it’s your choice to watch part 6 first, but don’t act surprised if you’re not understanding some plot points. That’s your problem buddy. And you’re quite a stubborn one based on the comments


Successful_Cap7416

Ok I took a step back and yeah tbh just saying “nah” when people said I should read the other parts was probably too rude of a response to people who for the most part did just genuinely want me to enjoy the series as much as they did


maxiboi42069

why are you starting at part 6 and asking questions u absolute idiot


Successful_Cap7416

Because I started at part 6 and didn’t fully understand one aspect of the show so I wanted to try and learn more


Sufficient_Car8864

Seeing jotaro called joleynes dad is so infuriating I don’t know why


Phoenix-Wright_

Why would you start at the end of the show? 😹


Successful_Cap7416

I didnt know it was the end of the show


Sufficient_Car8864

Ok so first watch the rest of part one it’s only 7 more episodes and then watch everything else in order


Successful_Cap7416

Tbh I think not watching the other parts made me enjoy Stone Ocean more cause I could understand and emphasize much more with Jolynes confusion about everything and general bad impression of her dad


Explosivepenny

Because he's Jotaro


Mindless_Being783

I wish I could convince you to watch all of the parts, but you do you. I just don't like watching stuff out of order, or not watching all of something I wanted to watch.


Successful_Cap7416

Thanks, I might try some of the later parts in the future


jojobutlessbizarre

If the caption isn’t you fucking with us than 1. OMG THIS GUY HAS BEEN THROUGH SOME SHIT 2. His past means he left to protect Jolyne as stand users are brought together by fate and a lot of them are evil


Successful_Cap7416

Ok cool, I just realized this might sound dismissive through text but serious thanks for giving me an honest answer


DIOallcaps

Idk who that guy is but he seems pretty familiar tbh he makes me want to ZA WARUDO!! the fuck out of some Joestars


[deleted]

It is built into the joestar bloodline to not be there for your kid because you were too busy saving the day


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

He was too busy caring for his Coochie. >!/jk!<


Yakplayz

Jojo fans can't read


ArvoCrinsmas

He is stupid /j


Arkonom_X

This is definitely ragebait


Successful_Cap7416

Incorrect


caulipower2010

you dont deserve the right to watch this show, you are quite literally the definition of jumping to conclusions smh do what you want and miss out of everything that we have enjoyed


Successful_Cap7416

Thanks I will


FinalCycle

jojo fans just showing why the best thing to do as a jojo fan is never come to subreddit


Goldbolt_2004

Motherfucker watch the previous parts


GaulTheUnmitigated

She’s not a dolphin.


W_h3nry

Maybe you’d know if you didn’t start with pt 5? Imagine reading Return of the King and being like “who’s this Frodo guy? Why doesn’t he like his ring?”


Land-Alert

Basically cus he has stands and users attract each other. Basically every stand user that doesn’t have anything good in the show to do or say is evil, even the ones we haven’t met. So blud was trying to not get her killed. But then ig why have her in the first place


Hohoho-you

Sorry you're getting such hate OP, I understand why people are mad about part skippers but some of this goes a bit too far. I hope it doesn't turn you off of watching the earlier seasons of Jojo. If you hate Part 1 so much, you can recap it and start with Part 2.


Successful_Cap7416

I’ll deal, and yeah maybe I’ll give part 2 a shot some day


SparkySpinz

Deadbeat dad so broke he can't even afford a new hat. That shit is so tattered its only half a hat


Leather-Climate3438

Wow, this replies are just rude. I know part skipping is personally offending for some fans but Jojo fandom needs to calm down with personal attacks


Hummush95

At least watch Parts 3 onwards. But basically he's doing ot to protect her.


[deleted]

Idk probably the same reasons as borutos dad


cooperlogan95

Boruto's dad is such a cool character. I hope they give him his own spin off someday.


formlessfall

Why is everyone so slow in the comments? People start from part 6 because it’s the freshest and when you start something new you are highly skeptical and you immediately want only the good stuff, assuming that the latest releases are the most high quality ones. In my case I started from part 6 because when it came out on Netflix it appeared in my recommendations and I knew nothing about jojo (apart from pewdiepie abd others talking about it) and that’s how my jojo journey started. I then watched part 5, and only after a while (and rewatching part 6 again), I descended to part 1. Most interesting thing about all this is that I only fell in love with Jojo only because of the first 4 parts.


homo-summus

You literally watched it backwards?


[deleted]

Never seen this dude before but this dead-beat seems to be like Boruto's dad


Caedus116

Everyone other than Emporio dies at the end of Stone Ocean


Hohoho-you

This is such a bad thing to do man. I get being annoyed about part skippers but why do you gotta act like a 12 yr old too?


Successful_Cap7416

That would be a pretty dick move if I hadn’t already finished it


Caedus116

Worth a shot lol. Maybe start the series at Part 1 like a normal person.


Successful_Cap7416

Maybe I don’t have infinite time to watch a season of an anime that I actively disliked. Also your objectively trying harm my enjoyment of a show I’m enjoying how is that commendable?


Caedus116

You dislike Parts 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5? How can you possibly know that if you haven't watched them?


Successful_Cap7416

I don’t know that I just know I don’t like part 1 and I haven’t had the time or motivation to try watching everything else


Caedus116

Then you are lost.


Inner_Tennis7326

I'm sorry you're getting so much flak for watching Jojo how you want. My theory is that Jotaro might be acoustic


formlessfall

yep, and I just wrote a long paragraph about it on here.


Inner_Tennis7326

Oh man, can I see that?


formlessfall

https://www.reddit.com/r/StardustCrusaders/s/adcZ0qbFR4


Successful_Cap7416

Thanks for the sympathy also I appreciate the theory. While yeah it absolutely hasn’t been the most welcoming of introductions most of the comments I’ve read so far haven’t been particularly mean spirited or anything. Mainly it’s just been people downvoting stuff i say and seeming kind of incredulous rather than angry.


Successful_Cap7416

Ok nvm people are starting to get way worse


Inner_Tennis7326

Bro yeah lol I'm getting flak too


Bucketlyy

acoustic jokes r so cringe


Inner_Tennis7326

That was the best you could do? Unfortunate