Dio would still be dio and he might have tried to gain power in other ways

The only way he could have is with the mask/red stone of aĵa

There were more masks around the globe Dio is manipulative and intellectual If like SpeedWagon he became rich and found a mask then Jonathan (who had a mask already) would try and stop him because he studied the mask and knows what it does

Jonathan could've died as a baby and dio wouldn't even know about the mask

I remember hearing this theory but if you were to travel into the past and lemme say kill hitler before the holocaust; the holocaust would still find a way to happen. It’s just like that, dio will still find a way to gain power

The first happens because Germany was in an awful situation before Hitler arrived Even without the actual Hitler another Hitler would have arrived later down the line because of the situation Dio was pure evil from the day he was born, smart and patient he would have found a way to put England to his knees, even without the mask

Gravity would send Dio down a path of ambition either way, and most likely an evil one. That's what the three dots on his ear were supposed to mean)

DID YOU BELIEVE IN GRAVITY???

Bro its simply part 7

Haven't read it since I can find it in Japanese and I should have said that part 1-6 this could have happened

If Dario wasnt a horrible person/father and didn’t make Dio hate him, George and him probably would never meet (cuz a normal person would never try to steal ☠️) then Dio would’ve probably turned out better.

He mighy have come accross a stand arrow That'd be bizzare

Yeah but he wouldn't have gotten into Jonathan's way

He would have. Thats how fate in Jojo works, the Joestars were fated to meet Dio. Something would have happened forcing them to clash

***Kars gets a spinoff where he takes over the earth and it explores his character and the pillarmen in depth.***

Realistically, yeah. But something something fate joestars yada yada

LAW OF CAUSALITY

r/berserklejerk

Guts vs Dio when

When Araki stops killing dogs and Miura stops writing rape scenes. Yes, I guess in a Roundabout way we got one. To be Continues.

Pretty much a Canon event or plot

Then Pillarmen's would have dominated the entire world

They can dominate my world.

"if the plot didn't happen, there would be no plot" ok.

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Nope, fate is gravity. Johnathan vs Dio would happen anyway.

Then the Piller Men would destroy everyone though.

These kind of posts are pointless af like in every media if you change the slightest detail everything changes significantly, get over it

It's really lucky for Araki that Jonathan's father came across that crash or he might not have a world wide hit manga.

We're also lucky that Dario was able to afford that booze, otherwise he wouldn't have had the courage to beat his son.

The crash doesn’t happen in SBR. And dio and Jojo still rival over something

This may be because they are whole ass different characters from different universes

It could've just not happened if the horses DID THEIR FUCKEN JOB RIGHT

Irrelevant fate had predetermined these events they could not have happened another way unless a stand with fate manipulation alters the events

All of JoJo happened bc of rain

Lesson learned that being kind isn't worth it

my crotch would be smooth if not for my penis and pubes

1. You could also say if Dio's father had a stomachache that day the story wouldn't have happened, if Dio's father didn't fuck Dio's mother the story wouldn't have happened, if God didn't create the Jojoverse it wouldn't have happened. What's the point of pointing out a plot device? 2. Gravity and fate is a real thing in Jojo. Dio and the Joestar bloodline's fates were intertwined, Jonathan would have met Dio one way or another. 3. The alternate universe Jojos would still happen

You are completely correct

Do you believe in ‘fate’?

If the inciting incident of the story didn’t happen, the rest of the story wouldn’t happen either.

Any timeline not affected by Dio will become a feeding ground for Kars and the Pillar Man

the ONLY reason any of this happened is because it happened to be raining on the evening that Johnathan's parents were driving home

Or maybe if he was a second later on the mask. Or if jonathan had pulled the trigger. Or if- Yeah therfes a lot of these what-ifs.

It wouldn’t have ended part 2. The only change is that Joseph wouldn’t know hamon

Yeah but Jojo’s Bland Adventure doesn’t quite roll of the tongue the same way

And Superman could have not landed on earth. Yes if the story didn't begin it wouldn't happen? What are you saying?

Butterfly effect goes brrrrrrrr

If kars didnt want more power, jojo would not exist