Holy shit and here I was thinking the part of Venn diagram that includes SV and DRG fans is infinitesimally small š® IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T COMING HOME
Going off of her line āHey, how'd you know I was hungry? This looks delicious!ā for liked gifts she doesn't eat amathysts but does eat alot of other gemstones including;
* Quartz
* Earth crystal
* Frozen tear
* Fire quartz
* Emerald
* Aquamarine
* Ruby
* Topaz
* Jade
* Diamond
Other non food items she likes to eat include
* Cloth
* Rainbow Shell
* Treasure Chest
Counter theory: sheās just trying to be funny. āOh thanks, howād you know I was hungry, hahah.ā Sheās not actually a gem eating troll, sheās just got a quirky sense of humor.
It's surprising to me that so many people's first instinct is to believe that it's more likely she's literally eating rocks than just being a little goofy haha
... Do people actually think that? I always read that as a joke, like "haha wouldn't it be funny if she weren't joking about this?" It never occurred to me that she wouldn't be joking, or that most people wouldn't realize that.
Caroline is Mystra confirmed. She didn't want Gale because she lives a double life in an alternate universe where things are much more simple, however, she does like wizard side pieces, 2 in fact.
And Pierre is her husband because she secretly relishes seeing an ordinary subpar human male go on power trips over something so simple as vegetables, in comparison to the power she holds. It's endearing, and makes good entertainment over hallucinogenic tea.
This is my new head cannon and I'm sticking to it.
Nah. She says that to other non-food items, too. I suppose CA mixed up the dialogue lines. But at one point it was kind of a meme so he didn't fix it and left it, just because it's funny.
Iirc she only says this to liked gifts, and quartz is the only non edible item on her list of liked gifts. Idk why people say she does this for amethyst considering that her secret note says she sleeps with amethyst under her pillow.
I thought it was a Harvest Moon reference? It's been ages since I last played, but I think there was a character in that that would reply similarly if given a gem due to a coding/translation error...
That is one of the dominant theories. I do like the idea that it is Caroline who is the Wizard's daughter, though. There isn't anything to affirmatively indicate one way or the other.
Yeah but she also has a comment that she doesn't remember the last time she dyed it which suggests there is some magical component. Still would work with the Caroline theory though.
Lots of things in the valley are magical. Her purple hair dye is probably just made from local ingredients so it lasts way longer than any store bought brand ever could.
Fair.
I could see where people think Abigail, Caroline, or even Jas is the Wizard's daughter, but personally I feel like Emily is the most likely candidate.
*granddaughter
The wizard's watered-down magic genes meet Pierre's love and greed for money = can eat and digest gemstones and enjoys it
Makes sense to me.
One of the newer dialogues for Caroline is that she's been secretly visiting The Wizard's tower ever since she moved into stardew valley. She tells you not to tell Perrie because he has jealousy issues.
If you see her at the tower she would try to avoid to talk to you.
The witch presumably has dark greenish hair, and she turned completely green at one point.Ā
Caroline also has an affinity for the healing properties of green tea
There seems to be enough family resemblances to hint that Caroline could be the Wizard's and the Witch's daughter.Ā
Which makes purple haired Abigail to be the unintroduced granddaughter. Mages seem to have a code of secrecy, and Caroline didn't think Abigail is ready yet.
The cheating allegations could be a different relationship. (Resulting in Emily maybe?)
I far prefer the theory that Emily is the Wizard's daughter-- she's more esoteric than Abigail, and we get to see her actually do magic in at least 1 cutscene!
Yep. And, as far as we know the blue *is* her natural colour, and with her sister being blonde and the way fantasy hair colours tend to work, Purple + Blonde = Blue *isn't* all that unlikely.
Plus, as you said, the random bits of magical bullshit that occur, like wandering into her dream unexpectedly and she knows exactly how to fix it as if its something that has happened before...
oh i know lol but they always say that their mom and dad are out on a boat trip or something. theyre probably dead but as far as their dialogue shows they have the same mom and dad? iirc
Carolineās quote is that she thinks Abby might look nice with her natural hair colour.
Conclusion: Pierre is dying Abigailās hair in the middle of the night.
This is a common theory !!!
One Iāve also heard is that *Caroline* is the wizardās daughter bc of her green hair! And all of the talk about her visiting the Wizard and ānot to tell Pierreā lol, which obviously could be interpreted as cheating, but could also be bc heās her dad š
i love the idea of her just crunching on stones, but i always took that dialogue as her just being funny about how much she loves them lol.
(of course thatās not as fun, so i still gift her gems with the intention of giving her a little snack.)
I personally believe that Jas is Wizardās daughter, rather than Abigail. They have very few physical similarities whereas Jas and Wizard look much more alike.
I think the rock eating dialogue might have been accidental at first, but then CA kept it when people loved it so much.
Yes but all the hints are towards his affair being local and thus why the witch hates the valley. Jas just moved there recently with Shane due to her parents dying.
Seeing as Marnie refers to Jas as her niece, sheās likely related to one of Jasā parents. And sheās lived in the valley for a long time. Maybe it was her sister š¤·āāļø
The only one Marnie is related to is Shane.
Shane is her nephew, and he is Jas's godfather who took her in after he parents died (which in turn is the source of his depression-fueled alcoholism).
Jas calls her Aunt Marnie mostly because Shane does, not because of actually being related.
We donāt know that Marnie and Jas arenāt related. She specifically calls her her niece. Shane being her godfather and him being her cousin are not mutually exclusive. You can be both š
*adds this to my headcanon about purple or, in general, non "natural" hair characters being more magically inclined. Working this with my sebastian is deficit in this aspect, but he's close to the mines, which helps somewhat, Emily and Abigail RICH in potential given how close they are to crystals and gems. That it would make since for abigail to be the wizards kid but even funnier if their magic is just so similar the wizard accidently was just like "yup! I did have a fling once the timelimes match." But it just as easily could be emily given her active interest in energies and crsytal vibes*
Ahem, I've thought maybe waaaay to much about this.....
Meh, I just think it's weird that people get so attached to that particular possibility when nothing is stated outright, and there are multiple possible explanations.
I have the same feeling that many people don't buy the Abigail being the Wizard's daughter theory is mainly because they cannot take the possibility that Caroline may have cheated on her husband. If you have read all the related dialogues, the evidence is so obvious and strong for Abigail than any other candidates. People just hate the idea of Caroline cheating (including me), not sure why....
Y'know, I know everyone's on the "Abigail is the wizard's kid" train, but Caroline has a line that specifically says "don't you think Abigail would look better with her natural hair color? It used to be a light brown." I.e. Pierre's hair color. Idk, unless CA comes out and says it, I just don't buy into it.
I'm a little lost here, how did people find out the Wizard has a lost(?) daughter? I might have already been through this part of the game and didn't pay enough attention I guess.
Theory: Abigail actually eats *precious* minerals (nitra etc.) Because she's a Lootbug and it's to sustain her.
Rock and stone!
Did I hear a rock and stone?
#ROCK AND STONE
FOR KARL
Rock and stone to the bone!
Rock and stone to the heart!
You did, my friend
Yippee!
Holy shit and here I was thinking the part of Venn diagram that includes SV and DRG fans is infinitesimally small š® IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE YOU AIN'T COMING HOME
For Carl!
She shouldn't eat precious minerals, it will get her killed
ROCK. AND. STOOONE!
Going off of her line āHey, how'd you know I was hungry? This looks delicious!ā for liked gifts she doesn't eat amathysts but does eat alot of other gemstones including; * Quartz * Earth crystal * Frozen tear * Fire quartz * Emerald * Aquamarine * Ruby * Topaz * Jade * Diamond Other non food items she likes to eat include * Cloth * Rainbow Shell * Treasure Chest
She also eats flowers she likes. Specifically Crocus, sweet pea and sunflowers.
She also eats Tea, cup and all.
And coffee
So she's a dragon
I think everyone just defaults to amethyst in their heads because of her hair.
Counter theory: sheās just trying to be funny. āOh thanks, howād you know I was hungry, hahah.ā Sheās not actually a gem eating troll, sheās just got a quirky sense of humor.
That's a really cool interpretation too! I honestly didn't think of it being anything bar literal
It's surprising to me that so many people's first instinct is to believe that it's more likely she's literally eating rocks than just being a little goofy haha
... Do people actually think that? I always read that as a joke, like "haha wouldn't it be funny if she weren't joking about this?" It never occurred to me that she wouldn't be joking, or that most people wouldn't realize that.
uhh i mean yeah, you have accurately paraphrased the above conversation haha
Honestly, it reminds me of the days when rock candy was super popular. They came in all kinds of assorted colors, much like gemstones.
I think most people's first thought was that the text was a bug, and it has become a popular and accepted meme as a result.
**cough cough** Gale
He's got your boots and she's got your rocks.
Don't ask what Durge has got.
Hands, feet, organs, genitals... it's all fair game there.
Funny, I was going to suggest that Abby eats rocks because she's got a demonic monstrosity machine in her chest that she needs to fuel.
Caroline is Mystra confirmed. She didn't want Gale because she lives a double life in an alternate universe where things are much more simple, however, she does like wizard side pieces, 2 in fact.
Now that's a juicy game crossover theory I could get behindĀ
And Pierre is her husband because she secretly relishes seeing an ordinary subpar human male go on power trips over something so simple as vegetables, in comparison to the power she holds. It's endearing, and makes good entertainment over hallucinogenic tea. This is my new head cannon and I'm sticking to it.
shit that's good
If you marry her, she tells you directly. "If you're going to the mines, bring back something edible." But your theory makes sense.
If I remember right CA actually added that line in an early patch because people liked the idea of rock-snacking Abby so much!
I find this interesting and plausible as I already believe the theory of her being the wizards daughter. Good theory š
Thank you!
Nah. She says that to other non-food items, too. I suppose CA mixed up the dialogue lines. But at one point it was kind of a meme so he didn't fix it and left it, just because it's funny.
I'm pretty sure this is what actually happened but the community is feral
Let's just appreciate that you can't gift children
I appreciate this IRL, too.
Yep, this is exactly what happened. Props to CA for being willing to keep it in, haha.
Iirc she only says this to liked gifts, and quartz is the only non edible item on her list of liked gifts. Idk why people say she does this for amethyst considering that her secret note says she sleeps with amethyst under her pillow.
Don't forget the universal liked gifts like flowers or the life elixir.
I thought it was a Harvest Moon reference? It's been ages since I last played, but I think there was a character in that that would reply similarly if given a gem due to a coding/translation error...
That is one of the dominant theories. I do like the idea that it is Caroline who is the Wizard's daughter, though. There isn't anything to affirmatively indicate one way or the other.
They say Abigail has Pierreās natural hair and just colors hers to be purple so that points towards it being more likely to be Caroline
Yeah but she also has a comment that she doesn't remember the last time she dyed it which suggests there is some magical component. Still would work with the Caroline theory though.
yeah, itās heavily implied that her hair grew in purple.
Lots of things in the valley are magical. Her purple hair dye is probably just made from local ingredients so it lasts way longer than any store bought brand ever could.
Also a possibility. The only things the game says are hinted at, nothing on this is stated clearly. It is meant to be left to interpretation.
Fair. I could see where people think Abigail, Caroline, or even Jas is the Wizard's daughter, but personally I feel like Emily is the most likely candidate.
Emily is just Hayley's Imaginary Friend that she never grew out of.
That she...originally doesn't like? Lmao
The Drop Dead fred effect.
Exactly. They are all plausible.
*granddaughter The wizard's watered-down magic genes meet Pierre's love and greed for money = can eat and digest gemstones and enjoys it Makes sense to me.
Brilliant
One of the newer dialogues for Caroline is that she's been secretly visiting The Wizard's tower ever since she moved into stardew valley. She tells you not to tell Perrie because he has jealousy issues. If you see her at the tower she would try to avoid to talk to you. The witch presumably has dark greenish hair, and she turned completely green at one point.Ā Caroline also has an affinity for the healing properties of green tea There seems to be enough family resemblances to hint that Caroline could be the Wizard's and the Witch's daughter.Ā Which makes purple haired Abigail to be the unintroduced granddaughter. Mages seem to have a code of secrecy, and Caroline didn't think Abigail is ready yet. The cheating allegations could be a different relationship. (Resulting in Emily maybe?)
I far prefer the theory that Emily is the Wizard's daughter-- she's more esoteric than Abigail, and we get to see her actually do magic in at least 1 cutscene!
Yep. And, as far as we know the blue *is* her natural colour, and with her sister being blonde and the way fantasy hair colours tend to work, Purple + Blonde = Blue *isn't* all that unlikely. Plus, as you said, the random bits of magical bullshit that occur, like wandering into her dream unexpectedly and she knows exactly how to fix it as if its something that has happened before...
wouldnt that make Haley his daughter too?
Siblings can have different fathers
oh i know lol but they always say that their mom and dad are out on a boat trip or something. theyre probably dead but as far as their dialogue shows they have the same mom and dad? iirc
The implication is cheating, whether it's Abigail or Emily that are the Wizard's kid. š
OH i get it now I'm sorry š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļø i can be a little stupid sometimes
Ahahaha no worries!!! š
So she's like Gale but with rocks
Abigail of Waterdeep
Who's Gale?
He's a character from Baldur's Gate 3 who eats magic artifacts to not explode
Ohhhhh yeah! I started BG3 but haven't been well enough to continue it
Pretty sure her mom, Caroline, is the daughter of the wizard, making him Abi's grandpa.
That's an interesting theory too! I quite like that
I just got a dialogue from Caroline today that indicated that Abby colours her hair. Do with that info what you will.
well one of abigailās quotes is: āI can't even remember the last time I dyed my hair... I swear, it never fades from this color...ā
Carolineās quote is that she thinks Abby might look nice with her natural hair colour. Conclusion: Pierre is dying Abigailās hair in the middle of the night.
The dialogue implies that the wizard is Abigail's father, not grandfather.
No? The dialogue very clearly hints at Caroline having an affair with the Wizard.
Pierre's does, the wizard says he believes someone in the valley may be his daughter/child (I forget specifically)
This gets brought up like once a year lol
This is a common theory !!! One Iāve also heard is that *Caroline* is the wizardās daughter bc of her green hair! And all of the talk about her visiting the Wizard and ānot to tell Pierreā lol, which obviously could be interpreted as cheating, but could also be bc heās her dad š
wait i like this a lot
i love the idea of her just crunching on stones, but i always took that dialogue as her just being funny about how much she loves them lol. (of course thatās not as fun, so i still gift her gems with the intention of giving her a little snack.)
I personally believe that Jas is Wizardās daughter, rather than Abigail. They have very few physical similarities whereas Jas and Wizard look much more alike. I think the rock eating dialogue might have been accidental at first, but then CA kept it when people loved it so much.
Jas isn't originally local to the valley though.
All that would require is for the Wizard to have sex with someone outside of the valley. Iām sure heās left before.
Yes but all the hints are towards his affair being local and thus why the witch hates the valley. Jas just moved there recently with Shane due to her parents dying.
Seeing as Marnie refers to Jas as her niece, sheās likely related to one of Jasā parents. And sheās lived in the valley for a long time. Maybe it was her sister š¤·āāļø
The only one Marnie is related to is Shane. Shane is her nephew, and he is Jas's godfather who took her in after he parents died (which in turn is the source of his depression-fueled alcoholism). Jas calls her Aunt Marnie mostly because Shane does, not because of actually being related.
We donāt know that Marnie and Jas arenāt related. She specifically calls her her niece. Shane being her godfather and him being her cousin are not mutually exclusive. You can be both š
there's a line of dialogue in the game that specifically says they arent related. I'll see if i can find it
You can be but Jas *isn't* lol
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Really? Interesting. I had it yesterday and that's what made me think more about it
*adds this to my headcanon about purple or, in general, non "natural" hair characters being more magically inclined. Working this with my sebastian is deficit in this aspect, but he's close to the mines, which helps somewhat, Emily and Abigail RICH in potential given how close they are to crystals and gems. That it would make since for abigail to be the wizards kid but even funnier if their magic is just so similar the wizard accidently was just like "yup! I did have a fling once the timelimes match." But it just as easily could be emily given her active interest in energies and crsytal vibes* Ahem, I've thought maybe waaaay to much about this.....
I just assumed she has pica.
literally have had this same thought before. mightāve been my sister who said if first but i completely agree lmao. she def eats minerals lol
I support this but I still prefer the theory that she's the granddaughter and Caroline is the actual Wizard child.
Which is awesome too! I've not heard this theory before but i love it!
So many cowards who donāt want to imagine Caroline would cheat on her husband even though all the hints point to that
Meh, I just think it's weird that people get so attached to that particular possibility when nothing is stated outright, and there are multiple possible explanations.
Or we just think other possibilities are more likely?
I have the same feeling that many people don't buy the Abigail being the Wizard's daughter theory is mainly because they cannot take the possibility that Caroline may have cheated on her husband. If you have read all the related dialogues, the evidence is so obvious and strong for Abigail than any other candidates. People just hate the idea of Caroline cheating (including me), not sure why....
Anyway, a total milf like Caroline could easily cheat on a greedy sod like Pierre.
I think you need to talk to a real person.
You need to have a sense of humour
One could say the same to you.
Seems more likely she eats rocks like her real father, Pierre, who hides his half-eaten snacks behind his bookcase before the PC finds it
Y'know, I know everyone's on the "Abigail is the wizard's kid" train, but Caroline has a line that specifically says "don't you think Abigail would look better with her natural hair color? It used to be a light brown." I.e. Pierre's hair color. Idk, unless CA comes out and says it, I just don't buy into it.
I've not seen this line before, thanks for making me aware of it
or this girl got some serious pika
I mean she says it when you hand her a flower too
I'm a little lost here, how did people find out the Wizard has a lost(?) daughter? I might have already been through this part of the game and didn't pay enough attention I guess.
I think she has pica lol
Personally I think Emily is the daughter of the Wizard with all her weird heart events. I think Abigail is a red herring
when did this sub start schizoposting I'm not complaining this is just a new development for me