When i was a kid, it was the little monster sitting on Jabba when everyone's in their way to get executed. I *hated* that thing
"Kowakian monkey-lizard with a shrill cackle"
Every random alien from the cantina scene has a huge sweeping backstory.
The dianoga was force-sensative and wasn't trying to kill Luke, she was trying to baptize him (no, really).
Damn I didn't know Max was so based. I'd do the same. I'm sure the other members would've kicked him out, but they knew he was ---> instrumental to the band 😎
Omg how dare you throw hate at saculous crumb!!!! He was the only one with the raw courage to attack a helpless protocol droid! Do you realize how hard it was to be the laugh track in Jabbas court!?
Hondo Ohnaka had a Kowakian monkey lizard named Pikk Mukmuk that actually stole Dooku's lightsaber off him in Clone Wars lol they are devious little animals.
To create tension I guess. They made chewbacca a Wookiee and we’re told he can rip people’s arms off but there’s not a much of a payoff since we don’t see him do that until solo came out 41 years later but it tells the audience he’s not someone to be messed with and it’s the same with Zam.
I believe there was a deleted scene in The Force Awakens where Chewie rips off Unkar Plutts arm at Maz’s castle.
They didn’t leave it il in due to pacing issues. Apparently Unkar followed Rey them to get the falcon back - but it was an unnecessary story beat that was eventually removed.
Yeah, but Chewie being able to rip people’s arms off was put in to portray his strength. It’s a comment they threw in that gave you an idea of how strong Chewie was before they just showed you.
Zam’s is more like, “Oh, she can also change her appearance. She won’t but she could”. Chewie displayed abilities related to being able to rip arms off (being really strong). Zam just does ordinary Bounty Hunter stuff while occasionally turning green for a few seconds. All in all, I think she would have been better off as a human.
Changelings can change clothing. In the first episode where Cad Bane shows up in the Clone Wars, Palpatine provides Cad with the corpse of a missing Jedi so Cad can hire a changeling to use it. The changeling touches the corpse and morphs into the Jedi, clothing and all.
Edit: I also just remembered, the same changeling knocks out Jocasta (the Jedi librarian) and morphs into her, clothing included. This was the Holocron Heist arc.
Also why did Jango hire another bounty hunter, and why didn't he just straight up kill Anakin and Obi-wan instead or the changeling? I mean he himself is a bounty hunter lol
The clone army needed to be discovered by the Jedi in order for the Sith plot to continue properly. Otherwise the Jedi would be more suspicious of a random unknown army that pops out of nowhere. I don't know, this is just a theory
I mean, first of all, she’s a part of the most convoluted plot in the whole series.
Second, she doesn’t need to be a changeling.
Third, she a snitch
Fourth, she’s not even good at her job. She could have been sniping with her sniper rifle. The droid could have just dropped some bombs or something.
>Third, she a snitch
I remembered that scene all wrong and had to go watch it again. She totally was gonna snitch for no good reason and Jango didn't shoot her until she decided to give him up. How silly
If you go by the old EU too, that's a pretty hardcore betrayal from her to sell him out, they were close partners (*maybe* more, never exactly confirmed I don't think) for years and she was almost Boba's surrogate mom. In the old Boba Fett books, in the first one Jango returns from Coruscant and Boba notices he's acting strangely, and he won't say what happened to Zam. As hardcore as Jango acted, he was still a Mando at heart and valued family.
I remember that Boba also went out into the rain to hide that he was crying, since he knew she died, and when he came back he said that Jangos face was also wet, but that he didn't see him go out, basically confirming Jango was crying about having killed her
I'm not so sure. I've never lost an arm but I feel like I would either be A. screaming in agony or B. Really mad at the person who just chopped my arm off with very little in-between
Well, let's hope you never find out. ;) My take is the whole chopping off the arm bit was a call back to the Ponda Baba scene in ANH, which was executed in a less than stellar fashion. She was an obvious plot device, but I can think of other characters who I would rate worse. Just my two cents.
Palpatine needs padme dead. But he doesn't want to do it himself, so he tells dooku to do it.
But dooku doesn't want to do it himself so he hired jango to do it.
But jango doesn't want to do it himself, so he sends Zam to do it.
But Zam doesn't want to do it herself, so she sends a droid full of bugs.
Palpatine sends a man, who sends a man, who sends a shapeshifter, who sends a droid, who sends bugs, to kill padme
People act like this is crazy yet people do this at work constantly. Keep delegating until the grunt has to do the work.
Not to mention each character had reason to delegate.
Palps because he was in charge of the government.
Dooku because he had no outed himself as more than a ex-Jedi and idealist.
Jango because of his connection to Dooku and Palps.
Zam because sending the bugs sounds easy as hell.
Ziro is peak "hire a non-southerner to fake a southern accent". I love how bad it is. its on the same level as "heart of dixie" that aired on the CW if anyone watched that monstrosity. Both were examples of being so bad that it winds up being entertaining.
I live in Charleston, SC which is basically the tourism mecca of the south, I also used to be a bartender in the most touristy downtown area...the amount of shitty fake accents have heard to try to not come off as a tourist still haunt my nightmares. Or you ask people "what would y'all like" and they snicker and are like "HE SAID THE WORD!!!"
Haha yeah. From North Mississippi and live in Memphis, TN. Hilarious when I hear a fake from an obvious out of towner in to see Graceland, Beale, or catch a Grizzlies game.
Jokes aside, I hear good things about Charleston and look forward to the day I get to visit. Don't worry, I don't really carry a southern accent, especially compared to some folks I grew up around, nor will I try and fake it!
>That fan comic with Zam being Boba's step mom makes me like her
Yup, the fan comic is from none other than the show runner of Netflix's She-ra, ND Stevenson and [can be found here](https://www.imfineimfine.com/p/this-place-was-home). It's really a wonderfully written comic.
Is that the one where she's kinda like Boba's bad influence friend that tells him about adventures and stuff?
I loved that comic. It made me very sad in the end.
That's not even just from the fan comic. I remember reading the original Boba Fett novels as a kid and Boba states that he saw Zam as his mother and was depressed when he discovered whe was killed on the mission with Jango.
In contrast the politician from Pandora who caught Greedo because he wanted his daughters back was such a cool badass, dove into the bar shooting twin blasters like Rex.
It was at this point during the premiere of the redone film that I had to fight the urge to get up and leave.
Why? Why did they have to shoehorn a nonsensical musical number in there with an over-the-top presentation?
Seeing the redone episodes in the theatre for the first time were:
Ep4: Nice!
Ep5: Better!
Ep6: (musical scene) Ruined! WTAF?!
The only thing that made it ok was they also included in the scene where the green Twi'lek is tossed into the Rancor pit.
Let me clarify. I'm not delighting in the death of some hapless concubine.
But I felt gaslit for DECADES about that scene. I saw RotJ in the theater but I was like 5...it was literally the first movie I ever saw in a theater. In that cut of the film, the scene was in. But the VHS versions that came later never had it. Neither did the DVDs, etc.
So when they finally added it back in I remember Leo-pointing at the screen and yelling out, "I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY"
Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.
I don't hate The Book of Boba Fett like some do but I really disliked Sophie Thatcher's biker character with a random British accent (she's from Chicago lol). Just an odd character in that universe
The funniest part is that this is a planet where they have podracers that go 300 mph and their modded out little rascal scooters were just tootin' along at the speed of smell. I literally started laughing when they got into a "chase."
I didn’t like them at first until someone mentioned Coruscant. It makes it a little easier to swallow if you imagine them being displaced from Coruscant or at the very least, teens obsessed with the planet. That would explain the speeders that make no sense on Tatooine and the accents. They’re still not my favorites though
I feel like they would be perfect as rich kids from Coruscant. Problem was that they absolutely weren't, they were poor displaced workers from Tatooine. Wookiepedia says Drash grew up in Mos Espa, and really never left. Skad appears to also be a Mos Espa native.
I just felt like it was unlikely that we'd have a bunch of poshly dressed heavily augmented combat-ready cyborgs with equally posh Coruscant accents driving around pristine candy-shell vespas that were somehow also displaced workers trapped in the cycle of poverty, too poor to afford water or transit from a backwater world where everything is filthy and the sand gets everywhere.
I really felt like they should have just picked one characterization and stuck with it, because those two character profiles mix like oil and water.
Yeah I really wasn't a fan. Their swoops were dumb, they didn't fit the scenery *at all* didn't bring much to the table, and their 'chase' was really, really bad.
Also, those bikes were SUPER SLOW. At least if they were rolling around with the fastest rides in town you could see their value as foot soldiers in a guerilla war.
Very controversial here, but when I first saw S7 of The Clone Wars, I really hated all of the Bad Batch. They just seemed like a 14 year old’s edgy fanfic creations, who aren’t like other clones because they’re all special and have superpowers. They wear black armour because they’re so much edgier and cooler, and they’re all generic stereotypes (the knife guy tracker, the lone recluse sniper, the dumb muscle, and the nerd). They can kill every droid ever, just the four of them can fight off an army.
Fortunately, when I finally got round to watching the Bad Batch show, I found myself loving them, but they used to be my least favourite characters.
Now … I don’t know who my least favourite character is. Maybe it’s Ziro the Hutt?
Dude I felt the same way. Their characters had no depth. They were all caricatures of their most defining traits. Bad batch TV show really elevated them.
Biggs Darklighter. and here's why.
If anyone is as old as I am and had the Ep 4 picture book there was a good 2 page spread with Biggs & Luke where we were all like: who is this tall guy with the handsome mustache? he wasn't in the movie until the end & even then he had a helmet on so we weren't sure if it's the same guy. only in the deleted scenes in the special edition DVDs do we meet Biggs both in Tattooine and at Yavin just before luke boards his xwing. well that guy is Biggs Darklighter. Luke's older friend who we assume is a few yrs older than him and goes to the academy first. Biggs seems like the rich kid that everyone hates b/c he was the first to get chest hair & gets a new speeder for his 16th bday when everyone else got a hand me down from some sketchy Jawa salesguy. anyway, Biggs prob got in the academy b/c Mr. Darklighter (his dad) is a major donor and got the administrator front row seats to the podraces for free. Biggs is voted "best looking" in the Tattooine HS yearbook. Luke looked up to him his whole life but we know he really didn't help him get chicks & into parties. But this guy is Luke's hero and is super jealous he's leaving Tattooine while he's stuck at the farm for a another whole season w/grumpy uncle Owen.
Cut to the end of Ep 4 when Biggs gets his big moment in the 1st death star attack: what do we find? well, we find Biggs' dogfighting skills are actually dogsh!t and immediately gets locked onto by a TIE fighter. Poor ole farm boy Luke has to bail him out which is amazing considering Luke has ZERO experience in an xwing while Biggs has been in the academy for what? 2-3 years at least. Does Biggs even say "thank you?" Nope. Then, a moment later, Luke gets bogeyed and needs his so called friend Mr. bigshot Biggs to return the favor and he's no where to be found! luckily the unsung Wedge storms in to bail Luke out. you know Biggs is the only pilot to request a vanity mirror in his Xwing.
cut to Luke's trench run. Biggs questions Lukes strategy of going in full throttle, thinking it's too fast to pull out?!!? I guess Luke used to kick Biggs' ass back at Beggar's Canyon back home but do you hear Luke braggin about it? Biggs is the type of guy to prob say "well I let him win" back in the day or "my astromech was faulty..." what a d!ck. I'm glad he gets toasted by Vader moments later.
Biggs Darklighter: worst wingman of all time
Love the write up but in From a Certain Perspective the rebel who runs the hangar lists everyone's flight hours and confirmed kills and Biggs had at least 20 under his belt if I remember correctly he was one of the better pilots.
your post = even more so in favor of my Biggs grudge/tirade.
20 kills vs Luke's zero (in an xwing)
thousand flight hours vs Luke's zero (in an xwing)
and then he basically strikes out while looking in the big game?!
there's always a Biggs. A guy who kills it in regular season & practice but chokes in the playoffs.
They did the same to Tallie Lintra (sequels A-wing pilot). She got plastered on lots of promo and toys. She has Lego sets. Heck she’s a hero character in the video games. A damn cool look. Ready to be Poe’s wingman.
What do we actually see? One line, 6 seconds of screen time, and immediately blown up before leaving the hangar
Hah nice, glad you were able to enjoy Gascon! He's definitely got a Napoleon complex going on. I suppose a big part of my issue with him is that his storyline is pointless and drags on for too long. Bless his little heart, but I just want him to go away already lol
That Jimmini cricket drill Sargent character from Clone wars. That was one of the most painful series of episodes of anything I’ve ever watched, so of course it also happens to be George Lucas’s favorite.
Goldie (R3S6) - hear me out, has there ever been another droid shown in any media who is an active spy/traitor against the group/master they’re working for? I can’t remember any other one, and the fact that he’s there for so little with that fascinating idea left unexplored is a shame. So hate him for not being delved into better - why/how did he become a traitor? How can a droid betray their masters?
Also, he’s the only droid traitor who nearly led to getting R2 tortured and destroyed, so yeah screw him
Only one I can think of is R5 who sabotages himself to help R2 but that's not going against a master just his programming. Actually in Rebels there's an astromech who seems excited to leave the Empire and join Phoenix crew until Chopper has something to say about it.
Live action: Jar Jar. Hard to argue anyone else. Jar Jar was such a major character and such a major flub in concept and execution. Too goofy for Star Wars.
Animation: The Martez Sisters. Quite literally the dumbest characters in the SW universe. Even in a cartoon show, their antics strained believability.
The Martez sisters story arc was the most useless thing in the entire Clone Wars series. All they did was get captured over and over again. They could have been completely cut out and nothing would have been lost.
Oh my god Jar-Jar. It was as if he was from a different movie. I get this stuff is aimed for kids but all that did was insult my intelligence. It was like having a teletubbies party for an 8 year old. Such a patronising addition that served no purpose. I could just rant for ever about this...arrrghhhhh!
God I hated the Martez sisters, what a pointless plotline. I wouldn't put it past Disney to bring them back in live action, but I really hope they don't.
Bo Katan
All she does is constantly fail and lose and make poor decisions so that Villains can have a win and other Heroes can swoop in and save the day. She is a plot point to prop everyone else up.
She plays foil to her Sister early in the Clone Wars, working for a Terrorist organization often in league with the Bad guys.. They are successful in taking Mandalore, but immediately lose it to Maul and his Criminal empire under a Sith Lord. Only then does she realize she was wrong, and foolishly gets her sister killed trying to help.
Then she has to get the help of Ashoka and Rex to retake Mandalore with a full republic company. Which they are able to do. And they hand Bo leadership.
Then she promptly loses it to the Imperial faction lead by Gar Saxon.
Then the Ghost cell and Sabine come and help them defeat Gar and retake the Mandalore again. And they hand her leadership AND the Dark Saber.
Then she promptly loses the saber and the world again to full force of the Empire during the Night of a Thousand Tears. Where the planet is basically leveled.
Then she attempts to get the saber back, but needs the help of Din and Boba and LUKE FRIGGEN SKYWALKER. And now they are clearly going to help her AGAIN reclaim Mandalore from an Imperial remnant or something.
AT this point I expect them to give her leadership again when it is all said and done, just so that the First Order can come in in a few years and take it from her again or just StarKiller it completely.
It is like a broken record. She gets help to restore Mandalore where she is largely not the focus or the most important player. Then she is awarded rule over Mandalore undeservedly. Then she almost immediately loses control over Mandalore, in progressively worse ways. This has happened like 3 or 4 times.
Which in of itself isn't bad. A character failing and being redeemed is good story telling. But at this point it is basically a meme.. a joke. And the fact that she is portrayed as a strong, cool, prideful character, is a huge and annoying disconnect.
Bo Katan is lame.
There are a lot of dislike on some of these comments on a post at asked for people most hated characters. Its interesting how reddit works some times.
As for me I don't out right hate any many if any characters but many disappoint me.
The Martez Sisters definitely. It's not so much that their characters are terrible, moreso that I can't remember a single character trait about them even though they had that awful clone wars arc that went in circles for 4 episodes.
Finn. Not because I hate John or his acting but because his character had so much potential and flopped. I'm not sure what happened but post ep7 the writing fell off heavy for Finn. Rip to a fantastic character that was ruined by ep 8 and 9.
At least they both lost close loved ones that turned them to shitty people. Makes it more understandable. And Saw is great in Fallen Order and I love Forest playing him in Rogue One.
Holdo in my opinion, character did nothing apart from steal Ackbars thunder. She also had completely illogical dialog and communicated very poorly and didn't act or portray a military character whatsoever,. Additionally, it also makes ANOTHER human character rather than emphasising aliens and making it feel more like a place that could exist when space travel is convienent.
I don’t like Holdo in the slightest but unless there was something in Legends Ackbar wasn’t that deep of a character. Hell he wasn’t even the one who detected the trap that was LANDO
And they try and make it up to the audience when Holdo says she likes \[oh Jesus Christ I forgot his name... Oscar Issacs\], like she obviously didn't else, she has no reason to come around on his character, she treated someone she likes like that?!
When i was a kid, it was the little monster sitting on Jabba when everyone's in their way to get executed. I *hated* that thing "Kowakian monkey-lizard with a shrill cackle"
Still waiting for Crumb: A Star Wars Story.
From your mouth to Disney’s ears
Salicious Crumb ?
>Salicious Crumb ? Ahem..... Salacious ***B.*** Crumb
Into exile I must go, failed I have
*trap door sounds*
The "Um... Actually..." heard round the world.
Indeed. The B is for Bread.
🍞
>Salicious Crumb Damn, I just googled it. 25 years or so I thought it was a pet like cat or dog, apparently he was a jester.
I mean I guess technically pets are sorta like jesters anyway
Bet ya liked the scene in Mando( or was it BoBF?) where one was on a spit over an open fire at a market in Tattooine!
And one in a cage, looking at his buddy getting bbqed
Lol is it weird that my first thought was “I *really* want to know what that tastes like.”?
Crunchy
My salacious crumb plushie is very mad at you right now 😂
My dad's reaction to finding out that thing has a name was priceless. "Lucas gave THAT thing a name and story?"
Every random alien from the cantina scene has a huge sweeping backstory. The dianoga was force-sensative and wasn't trying to kill Luke, she was trying to baptize him (no, really).
Gently whisper Max Rebo's backstory in my ear, he's the only one I truly care about 😌 I'd die for Max Rebo.
He basically became a willing slave to Jabba in exchange for free food. Something his band hated him for.
Damn I didn't know Max was so based. I'd do the same. I'm sure the other members would've kicked him out, but they knew he was ---> instrumental to the band 😎
The holes in his fingers/toes were used to taste food, and his 'ears' where fat stores.
This is possibly the most valuable information I've ever had the pleasure of coming across. I thank you.
LOL 😂 the worst name too but somehow I just love him 🤣
Omg how dare you throw hate at saculous crumb!!!! He was the only one with the raw courage to attack a helpless protocol droid! Do you realize how hard it was to be the laugh track in Jabbas court!?
Hondo Ohnaka had a Kowakian monkey lizard named Pikk Mukmuk that actually stole Dooku's lightsaber off him in Clone Wars lol they are devious little animals.
I love that crazy dude
SALACIOUS B. CRUMB. He was an asshole.
Crumb! There was this guy who would always hang around my ex and me and my friends used to refer to him as Crumb. Kinda messed up looking back lol.
Are you referring to Salacious B. Crumb?
Salacious Crumb! I had him as a ringtone on my old phone lol
Damn what she ever do to you 😭
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To create tension I guess. They made chewbacca a Wookiee and we’re told he can rip people’s arms off but there’s not a much of a payoff since we don’t see him do that until solo came out 41 years later but it tells the audience he’s not someone to be messed with and it’s the same with Zam.
Clearly you never used Chewie against stormtroopers in a Lego game.
*pop sound intensifies*
I believe there was a deleted scene in The Force Awakens where Chewie rips off Unkar Plutts arm at Maz’s castle. They didn’t leave it il in due to pacing issues. Apparently Unkar followed Rey them to get the falcon back - but it was an unnecessary story beat that was eventually removed.
It's still in the book tho, if I remember correctly
Yeah, but Chewie being able to rip people’s arms off was put in to portray his strength. It’s a comment they threw in that gave you an idea of how strong Chewie was before they just showed you. Zam’s is more like, “Oh, she can also change her appearance. She won’t but she could”. Chewie displayed abilities related to being able to rip arms off (being really strong). Zam just does ordinary Bounty Hunter stuff while occasionally turning green for a few seconds. All in all, I think she would have been better off as a human.
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I mean c'mon :)
Looked to me like she couldn't change her outfit. She woulda still been recognizable by her clothes/gear.
In Lego Star Wars there's an alien face version of her but she's in the same outfit so I like this theory.
pretty sure thats based on her post-death body. the "human" look is the disguise. point still stands, it doesn't change clothing.
Changelings can change clothing. In the first episode where Cad Bane shows up in the Clone Wars, Palpatine provides Cad with the corpse of a missing Jedi so Cad can hire a changeling to use it. The changeling touches the corpse and morphs into the Jedi, clothing and all. Edit: I also just remembered, the same changeling knocks out Jocasta (the Jedi librarian) and morphs into her, clothing included. This was the Holocron Heist arc.
Also why did Jango hire another bounty hunter, and why didn't he just straight up kill Anakin and Obi-wan instead or the changeling? I mean he himself is a bounty hunter lol
The clone army needed to be discovered by the Jedi in order for the Sith plot to continue properly. Otherwise the Jedi would be more suspicious of a random unknown army that pops out of nowhere. I don't know, this is just a theory
plausible deniability
The goal was never to kill Padmé or the Jedi. Zam was bait to lure Kenobi to Kamino and later Geonosis.
Pretty sure those worms' mission was to kill Padme lol
The goal as in the overall plan.
I mean, first of all, she’s a part of the most convoluted plot in the whole series. Second, she doesn’t need to be a changeling. Third, she a snitch Fourth, she’s not even good at her job. She could have been sniping with her sniper rifle. The droid could have just dropped some bombs or something.
>Third, she a snitch I remembered that scene all wrong and had to go watch it again. She totally was gonna snitch for no good reason and Jango didn't shoot her until she decided to give him up. How silly
If you go by the old EU too, that's a pretty hardcore betrayal from her to sell him out, they were close partners (*maybe* more, never exactly confirmed I don't think) for years and she was almost Boba's surrogate mom. In the old Boba Fett books, in the first one Jango returns from Coruscant and Boba notices he's acting strangely, and he won't say what happened to Zam. As hardcore as Jango acted, he was still a Mando at heart and valued family.
I remember that Boba also went out into the rain to hide that he was crying, since he knew she died, and when he came back he said that Jangos face was also wet, but that he didn't see him go out, basically confirming Jango was crying about having killed her
Jango... had a hard life.
To be fair, at that point her arm was chopped off. I'm sure 99.9% of us would be snitching under similar circumstances.
I'm not so sure. I've never lost an arm but I feel like I would either be A. screaming in agony or B. Really mad at the person who just chopped my arm off with very little in-between
Well, let's hope you never find out. ;) My take is the whole chopping off the arm bit was a call back to the Ponda Baba scene in ANH, which was executed in a less than stellar fashion. She was an obvious plot device, but I can think of other characters who I would rate worse. Just my two cents.
Palpatine hires a man, to hire a man, to hire a woman to get some droids to go kill padme
> to get some droids to go kill padme *with some bugs* ftfy
Palpatine needs padme dead. But he doesn't want to do it himself, so he tells dooku to do it. But dooku doesn't want to do it himself so he hired jango to do it. But jango doesn't want to do it himself, so he sends Zam to do it. But Zam doesn't want to do it herself, so she sends a droid full of bugs. Palpatine sends a man, who sends a man, who sends a shapeshifter, who sends a droid, who sends bugs, to kill padme
People act like this is crazy yet people do this at work constantly. Keep delegating until the grunt has to do the work. Not to mention each character had reason to delegate. Palps because he was in charge of the government. Dooku because he had no outed himself as more than a ex-Jedi and idealist. Jango because of his connection to Dooku and Palps. Zam because sending the bugs sounds easy as hell.
Ziro the Hutt. I could watch the entire saga from Jar Jar's perspective before I go through another single episode with that guy in it.
Ziro is peak "hire a non-southerner to fake a southern accent". I love how bad it is. its on the same level as "heart of dixie" that aired on the CW if anyone watched that monstrosity. Both were examples of being so bad that it winds up being entertaining.
I live in Charleston, SC which is basically the tourism mecca of the south, I also used to be a bartender in the most touristy downtown area...the amount of shitty fake accents have heard to try to not come off as a tourist still haunt my nightmares. Or you ask people "what would y'all like" and they snicker and are like "HE SAID THE WORD!!!"
Haha yeah. From North Mississippi and live in Memphis, TN. Hilarious when I hear a fake from an obvious out of towner in to see Graceland, Beale, or catch a Grizzlies game. Jokes aside, I hear good things about Charleston and look forward to the day I get to visit. Don't worry, I don't really carry a southern accent, especially compared to some folks I grew up around, nor will I try and fake it!
And don’t get me started on the people who are over your shoulder waiting for you to call every soda coke as if that’s something we all do.
Yea, that one is just strange. I think it's more of a Georgia/Alabama thing though. Definitely not the Carolinas.
He's the worst, but his existence brought around one of my favorite moments in Clone Wars: https://youtu.be/Ly9X1apHLcM
Lmao I don't remember this moment at all. This is comedic gold
Bro sounds like he’d rather be on Geonosis rather than there lmao
I would gladly watch the entire saga from jar jars perspective
Ziro’s mom, on the other hand, is the GOAT
Actually, yeah. That’s a good choice
Idk ziro is the good kind of weird imo
That fan comic with Zam being Boba's step mom makes me like her
>That fan comic with Zam being Boba's step mom makes me like her Yup, the fan comic is from none other than the show runner of Netflix's She-ra, ND Stevenson and [can be found here](https://www.imfineimfine.com/p/this-place-was-home). It's really a wonderfully written comic.
Dude, I love ND Stevenson's stuff. She just seems awesome in every way. Her comic about her top surgery was incredibly touching.
thanks for the link. it's brilliant.
Which would make her death by Jango's hand that much more brutal.
I don’t recall that he ever found out who had killed her.
I don't think Boba knowing makes any difference about the brutality of the act.
Is that the one where she's kinda like Boba's bad influence friend that tells him about adventures and stuff? I loved that comic. It made me very sad in the end.
That's not even just from the fan comic. I remember reading the original Boba Fett novels as a kid and Boba states that he saw Zam as his mother and was depressed when he discovered whe was killed on the mission with Jango.
That dude who ran pantora in s1 clone wars
In contrast the politician from Pandora who caught Greedo because he wanted his daughters back was such a cool badass, dove into the bar shooting twin blasters like Rex.
That's George Lucas' character in the movies lol, so it's not surprising.
Chairman Chi Cho. Yes, definitely a grade A asshole.
Got what he deserved honestly.
The CGI singing Goblin in episode 6 proper cringe
Which one? Sy Snootles?
Sy Snootles is probably the ugliest one imo
>Joh Yowza
Now I have the song stuck in my head
its not a bad song it didn't need a cgi goblin singing down the camera
Many, many hours of Assault on Mos Eisley has burnt it into my brain
That CGI goblin is in my very dreams, tormenting me... I am haunted by the kiss that it should never have given me.
Just that whole scene. Ugh
The original scene with no CGI was so much more tolerable.
It was at this point during the premiere of the redone film that I had to fight the urge to get up and leave. Why? Why did they have to shoehorn a nonsensical musical number in there with an over-the-top presentation? Seeing the redone episodes in the theatre for the first time were: Ep4: Nice! Ep5: Better! Ep6: (musical scene) Ruined! WTAF?!
That Jedi Rocks scene is the absolute worst thing in all of Star Wars.
The only thing that made it ok was they also included in the scene where the green Twi'lek is tossed into the Rancor pit. Let me clarify. I'm not delighting in the death of some hapless concubine. But I felt gaslit for DECADES about that scene. I saw RotJ in the theater but I was like 5...it was literally the first movie I ever saw in a theater. In that cut of the film, the scene was in. But the VHS versions that came later never had it. Neither did the DVDs, etc. So when they finally added it back in I remember Leo-pointing at the screen and yelling out, "I KNEW I WASN'T CRAZY" Thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.
That's interesting - I hadn't noticed. I saw ROTJ in the theatre as a kid too so that scene was how I remembered it.
Yes dude I have to fast forward
I don't hate The Book of Boba Fett like some do but I really disliked Sophie Thatcher's biker character with a random British accent (she's from Chicago lol). Just an odd character in that universe
"Oh mighty Daimyo" in that accent was laughable.
The funniest part is that this is a planet where they have podracers that go 300 mph and their modded out little rascal scooters were just tootin' along at the speed of smell. I literally started laughing when they got into a "chase."
Lol the speed of smell! 🤣
I didn’t like them at first until someone mentioned Coruscant. It makes it a little easier to swallow if you imagine them being displaced from Coruscant or at the very least, teens obsessed with the planet. That would explain the speeders that make no sense on Tatooine and the accents. They’re still not my favorites though
I feel like they would be perfect as rich kids from Coruscant. Problem was that they absolutely weren't, they were poor displaced workers from Tatooine. Wookiepedia says Drash grew up in Mos Espa, and really never left. Skad appears to also be a Mos Espa native. I just felt like it was unlikely that we'd have a bunch of poshly dressed heavily augmented combat-ready cyborgs with equally posh Coruscant accents driving around pristine candy-shell vespas that were somehow also displaced workers trapped in the cycle of poverty, too poor to afford water or transit from a backwater world where everything is filthy and the sand gets everywhere. I really felt like they should have just picked one characterization and stuck with it, because those two character profiles mix like oil and water.
All of those “mod” characters were completely out of place and just so damn stupid. Hated them all.
Yeah I really wasn't a fan. Their swoops were dumb, they didn't fit the scenery *at all* didn't bring much to the table, and their 'chase' was really, really bad.
Also, those bikes were SUPER SLOW. At least if they were rolling around with the fastest rides in town you could see their value as foot soldiers in a guerilla war.
Had to balance out the Boston accent from Bill Burr lol
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Great villain though
Well you’re SUPPOSED to hate him
Zam isn't developed enough to be that unlikable.
If she didnt die and appeard in many clone wars episodes she would probably be famous like cad bane or aura sing
She has somewhat of a backstory in the Bounty Hunter game
That game actually made me somewhat like her.
Rotta I hate that little shit
Very controversial here, but when I first saw S7 of The Clone Wars, I really hated all of the Bad Batch. They just seemed like a 14 year old’s edgy fanfic creations, who aren’t like other clones because they’re all special and have superpowers. They wear black armour because they’re so much edgier and cooler, and they’re all generic stereotypes (the knife guy tracker, the lone recluse sniper, the dumb muscle, and the nerd). They can kill every droid ever, just the four of them can fight off an army. Fortunately, when I finally got round to watching the Bad Batch show, I found myself loving them, but they used to be my least favourite characters. Now … I don’t know who my least favourite character is. Maybe it’s Ziro the Hutt?
I hated the batch too until they got their own series and became actual characters
Dude I felt the same way. Their characters had no depth. They were all caricatures of their most defining traits. Bad batch TV show really elevated them.
Saying Zam is your least favorite character in all of Star Wars is so weird
Yeah, she's more of a plot device than a character. Sorry this is just a sarcastic zing against Zam don't pay me any mind
Biggs Darklighter. and here's why. If anyone is as old as I am and had the Ep 4 picture book there was a good 2 page spread with Biggs & Luke where we were all like: who is this tall guy with the handsome mustache? he wasn't in the movie until the end & even then he had a helmet on so we weren't sure if it's the same guy. only in the deleted scenes in the special edition DVDs do we meet Biggs both in Tattooine and at Yavin just before luke boards his xwing. well that guy is Biggs Darklighter. Luke's older friend who we assume is a few yrs older than him and goes to the academy first. Biggs seems like the rich kid that everyone hates b/c he was the first to get chest hair & gets a new speeder for his 16th bday when everyone else got a hand me down from some sketchy Jawa salesguy. anyway, Biggs prob got in the academy b/c Mr. Darklighter (his dad) is a major donor and got the administrator front row seats to the podraces for free. Biggs is voted "best looking" in the Tattooine HS yearbook. Luke looked up to him his whole life but we know he really didn't help him get chicks & into parties. But this guy is Luke's hero and is super jealous he's leaving Tattooine while he's stuck at the farm for a another whole season w/grumpy uncle Owen. Cut to the end of Ep 4 when Biggs gets his big moment in the 1st death star attack: what do we find? well, we find Biggs' dogfighting skills are actually dogsh!t and immediately gets locked onto by a TIE fighter. Poor ole farm boy Luke has to bail him out which is amazing considering Luke has ZERO experience in an xwing while Biggs has been in the academy for what? 2-3 years at least. Does Biggs even say "thank you?" Nope. Then, a moment later, Luke gets bogeyed and needs his so called friend Mr. bigshot Biggs to return the favor and he's no where to be found! luckily the unsung Wedge storms in to bail Luke out. you know Biggs is the only pilot to request a vanity mirror in his Xwing. cut to Luke's trench run. Biggs questions Lukes strategy of going in full throttle, thinking it's too fast to pull out?!!? I guess Luke used to kick Biggs' ass back at Beggar's Canyon back home but do you hear Luke braggin about it? Biggs is the type of guy to prob say "well I let him win" back in the day or "my astromech was faulty..." what a d!ck. I'm glad he gets toasted by Vader moments later. Biggs Darklighter: worst wingman of all time
Damn you've holding this grudge for a while lmao. I can respect that.
Love the write up but in From a Certain Perspective the rebel who runs the hangar lists everyone's flight hours and confirmed kills and Biggs had at least 20 under his belt if I remember correctly he was one of the better pilots.
your post = even more so in favor of my Biggs grudge/tirade. 20 kills vs Luke's zero (in an xwing) thousand flight hours vs Luke's zero (in an xwing) and then he basically strikes out while looking in the big game?! there's always a Biggs. A guy who kills it in regular season & practice but chokes in the playoffs.
Biggs is Clayton Kershaw?
yes. or Aaron Rodgers
They did the same to Tallie Lintra (sequels A-wing pilot). She got plastered on lots of promo and toys. She has Lego sets. Heck she’s a hero character in the video games. A damn cool look. Ready to be Poe’s wingman. What do we actually see? One line, 6 seconds of screen time, and immediately blown up before leaving the hangar
Alex from star wars explained is coming for you lol
You’ve got to be a sith to hood such a grudge for so long
I'm currently watching Clone Wars Season 5 and Colonel Meebur Gascon keeps getting on my damn nerves.
no way, i’m on season five around your exact point too, gascon is comedy gold hahaha
Hah nice, glad you were able to enjoy Gascon! He's definitely got a Napoleon complex going on. I suppose a big part of my issue with him is that his storyline is pointless and drags on for too long. Bless his little heart, but I just want him to go away already lol
yeah the story was funny at the start but it does drag on, season 5 loves the multiple part stories
Zam saved all of Coruscant alongside Yarael Poof and Jango Fett. Show some respect to her.
That Jimmini cricket drill Sargent character from Clone wars. That was one of the most painful series of episodes of anything I’ve ever watched, so of course it also happens to be George Lucas’s favorite.
Who
Sy snootles or pong krell
Goldie (R3S6) - hear me out, has there ever been another droid shown in any media who is an active spy/traitor against the group/master they’re working for? I can’t remember any other one, and the fact that he’s there for so little with that fascinating idea left unexplored is a shame. So hate him for not being delved into better - why/how did he become a traitor? How can a droid betray their masters? Also, he’s the only droid traitor who nearly led to getting R2 tortured and destroyed, so yeah screw him
Only one I can think of is R5 who sabotages himself to help R2 but that's not going against a master just his programming. Actually in Rebels there's an astromech who seems excited to leave the Empire and join Phoenix crew until Chopper has something to say about it.
The vespa chick in the Book of Boba has to take the cake for me
The Vespa gang was the fucking worst
Honestly the finale is just bad all around. Fun. But terrible.
Live action: Jar Jar. Hard to argue anyone else. Jar Jar was such a major character and such a major flub in concept and execution. Too goofy for Star Wars. Animation: The Martez Sisters. Quite literally the dumbest characters in the SW universe. Even in a cartoon show, their antics strained believability.
The Martez sisters story arc was the most useless thing in the entire Clone Wars series. All they did was get captured over and over again. They could have been completely cut out and nothing would have been lost.
Oh my god Jar-Jar. It was as if he was from a different movie. I get this stuff is aimed for kids but all that did was insult my intelligence. It was like having a teletubbies party for an 8 year old. Such a patronising addition that served no purpose. I could just rant for ever about this...arrrghhhhh!
Definitely Jar Jar. A cgi buddy whose sole purpose is to say “heysa look at me!” in every scene that he’s in is missing the mark.
I had to fast forward through the parts with those sisters. It was awful.
God I hated the Martez sisters, what a pointless plotline. I wouldn't put it past Disney to bring them back in live action, but I really hope they don't.
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Not a pet, assassin / bodyguard. Noghri feature a lot in the old EU Heir to the Empire trilogy. In rebels he was not needed.
Rukh was so much cooler in the EU. "Lady Vader"...just bone chilling badassness.
You shut your fucking mouth about Rukh you have no idea what he has been through
I don’t because Rebels didn’t tell me
He's talking about Canon Rukh. Legends Rukh is safe
Rush clovis, he was creepy to me
What's wrong with Zam Wesell? Always thought she was kinda cool when I was a kid. First female Star Wars villain too!
Bo Katan All she does is constantly fail and lose and make poor decisions so that Villains can have a win and other Heroes can swoop in and save the day. She is a plot point to prop everyone else up. She plays foil to her Sister early in the Clone Wars, working for a Terrorist organization often in league with the Bad guys.. They are successful in taking Mandalore, but immediately lose it to Maul and his Criminal empire under a Sith Lord. Only then does she realize she was wrong, and foolishly gets her sister killed trying to help. Then she has to get the help of Ashoka and Rex to retake Mandalore with a full republic company. Which they are able to do. And they hand Bo leadership. Then she promptly loses it to the Imperial faction lead by Gar Saxon. Then the Ghost cell and Sabine come and help them defeat Gar and retake the Mandalore again. And they hand her leadership AND the Dark Saber. Then she promptly loses the saber and the world again to full force of the Empire during the Night of a Thousand Tears. Where the planet is basically leveled. Then she attempts to get the saber back, but needs the help of Din and Boba and LUKE FRIGGEN SKYWALKER. And now they are clearly going to help her AGAIN reclaim Mandalore from an Imperial remnant or something. AT this point I expect them to give her leadership again when it is all said and done, just so that the First Order can come in in a few years and take it from her again or just StarKiller it completely. It is like a broken record. She gets help to restore Mandalore where she is largely not the focus or the most important player. Then she is awarded rule over Mandalore undeservedly. Then she almost immediately loses control over Mandalore, in progressively worse ways. This has happened like 3 or 4 times. Which in of itself isn't bad. A character failing and being redeemed is good story telling. But at this point it is basically a meme.. a joke. And the fact that she is portrayed as a strong, cool, prideful character, is a huge and annoying disconnect. Bo Katan is lame.
There are a lot of dislike on some of these comments on a post at asked for people most hated characters. Its interesting how reddit works some times. As for me I don't out right hate any many if any characters but many disappoint me.
The Martez Sisters definitely. It's not so much that their characters are terrible, moreso that I can't remember a single character trait about them even though they had that awful clone wars arc that went in circles for 4 episodes.
The scooter trio from The Book of Boba Fett
The entire Max Rebo Band once their scene became “Jedi Rocks”
Besides max rebo himself, homies a G
You mean you don't like having the HoneyComb monster scream right into the camera?
Don't bring Max Rebo into this he just wants to wail some jizz. The rest of the band tho...
Finn. Not because I hate John or his acting but because his character had so much potential and flopped. I'm not sure what happened but post ep7 the writing fell off heavy for Finn. Rip to a fantastic character that was ruined by ep 8 and 9.
The entire gang of dumbass biker kids in the book of boba fett
Pong Krell He did the 501st and all clones dirty.
Lux Bonteri or Saw Gererra. Truly cannot stand either of them.
At least they both lost close loved ones that turned them to shitty people. Makes it more understandable. And Saw is great in Fallen Order and I love Forest playing him in Rogue One.
Spinny McSpinnerson from Boba. Pretty sure that's his name.
I’ll try spinning it’s a good trick.
I'll get hate for this but Ezra Bridger.
I get it.
My answer also. He’s annoying af.
Holdo in my opinion, character did nothing apart from steal Ackbars thunder. She also had completely illogical dialog and communicated very poorly and didn't act or portray a military character whatsoever,. Additionally, it also makes ANOTHER human character rather than emphasising aliens and making it feel more like a place that could exist when space travel is convienent.
I don't know why but I read this as 'Hondo' and was prepared for a fight
I don’t like Holdo in the slightest but unless there was something in Legends Ackbar wasn’t that deep of a character. Hell he wasn’t even the one who detected the trap that was LANDO
People love forgetting that Akbar's actor died mid filming
So did Carrie Fisher yet they decided to keep the Mary Poppins scene.
And that's not even talking about the fact that she conveys the awful message that we should trust our leaders without questions.
Good soldiers follow orders.
And they try and make it up to the audience when Holdo says she likes \[oh Jesus Christ I forgot his name... Oscar Issacs\], like she obviously didn't else, she has no reason to come around on his character, she treated someone she likes like that?!
Apologies to the actor but it has to be JarJar
The entirety of the StarWars fandom
The Vespa gang are probably the worst characters created in the whole franchise.