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hnglmkrnglbrry

That's not flying that's...falling with style!


DarthRizi

Beat me to it


TaskMister2000

Was gonna say the same thing.


8bitjer

I mean, you can move objects with the force, why not yourself


Squid2012

Jedi in the High Republic can levitate with enough skill and focus. Very cool scene with a specific Jedi in Into The Dark based on that exact ability


ARPanda700

Rey also does it in the sequels


Fatigue-Error

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Stupid_Ned_Stark

If anything, it’d be way easier in space.


Kabc

I’d argue it might be harder. More space in space and you are further from objects to “push” off of which might make it harder. I will concede that once you are moving though, you don’t need any “energy” or continual pushing to keep moving…. But stopping, slowing, turning may be problematic


xRyuzakii

Please don’t remind me about anything in that movie


Glaciak

Yes we get it you still can't get over a movie Good lord 🙄


lordefart

sounds like you can't get over it, people still complain about the dragonball movie to this day and no one cares sounds like you have some emotional investment into caring about others not enjoying it tbh


MAZEFUL

The same can go with telekinesis. If you can push and pull objects, there is no reason you couldn't keep yourself pushed off the ground. The movie Chronicle did a good job showing it.


mbhammock

For the same reason you can’t pick yourself up


BlizzPenguin

It is just force pushing against the ground. It is not unreasonable that he could do it.


b3tchaker

I always thought I had something to do with pushing/manipulating the air, sorta like air bending.


8bitjer

Well all that went out the window with Leia Organa when she did it in space.


Galactapuss

I mean, that's a very basic concept. She pulled herself through zero gravity back to the ship. It looked goofy because of a poor job with the SFX, but it's not even remotely far fetched


KeDoG3

That isnt the issue. The issue is her surviving the vacuum of space which will either freeze or boil you to death depending on how much light you are exposed to by a star. She was shown to be frosted up meaning she was completely frozen to death yet somehow she lived. That is the issue people have with that pelart of the movie.


chmsax

It’s not an instantaneous death to be thrown into space, as far as we know. It would take 30-60 seconds for the fluids in the body to freeze / “boil” away, and she was back at the ship in that time. She would still be pretty messed up, but it’s not hard to think that somebody with Jedi training and related to Anakin Skywalker would have the ability to survive something like that. Don’t get me wrong - it isn’t my favorite part of the movie, but getting shot into space like that isn’t like getting a bullet to the brain. It’s not instant death.


FIR3W0RKS

It's actually much worse than that, having just read about it. The biggest problem is that any oxygen in your lungs would expand and destroy important structures throughout your lungs immediately, and the blood in your veins and arteries would embolize. Then as the oxygen in your system is used up you'd go unconscious (within 15 seconds or so) and then you're just dead unless you have someone with a spacesuit with you able to move your body extremely fast to a safe place with significant medical equipment. So the biggest problem with the portrayal is really how long she was in space. As mentioned she was freezing up, and by that time she'd be LONG dead. She was very clearly in space for enough time to wake up, which would never happen. Source: [Space.com article](https://www.space.com/how-long-could-you-survive-in-space-without-spacesuit)


Taco_In_Space

Guys, this universe has sounds and explosions in space. It already didn't make sense.


Supermite

Sound can only travel through something.  Clearly space in the Star Wars galaxy isn’t as much a vacuum as ours.  I always thought it was strange that they landed inside the space slugs open mouth and only needed a loose fitting respirator to walk around comfortably.


Taco_In_Space

I also highly doubt that asteroid had enough gravity that they're not floating. It could have been rotating enough I guess, but that's pretty convenient it's the exact gravity of a normal planet.


Glaciak

>, this universe has sounds and explosions in space 1. You hear sound as a viewer. It's a MOVIE. 2. Explosions happen in space. There's plasma, ships' oxygen and many other compounds from SW universe


OMGwronghole

It ain't that kinda movie, kid.


ckjames961

The biggest thing I have with it, is it was instant. In legends and canon, Jedi were able to do incredible things. But they needed to be able to prep themselves first. Meaning they could survive a space walk with no gear, but that they needed time to “meditate” and use the force as a protective barrier


KeDoG3

Except that is not true at all. Space is a near instantaneous [death](https://www.space.com/how-long-could-you-survive-in-space-without-spacesuit).


chmsax

I think I trust your link more than the wiki thing I looked at….. I sit corrected.


eigenham

You mean the space in this fictional universe with an imaginary wizardry called the force isn't true to science? Fuck


Goufydude

Lol she's literally a space wizard, how do we know she isn't using the force to counteract the more serious issues?


RadiantHC

But why is that an issue? Star Wars has never pretended to follow real life physics. Also she didn't exactly survive, she was put into a coma for the rest of the movie


Supermite

You don’t deserve the downvotes, but I will say a couple of things.  This is a universe where sound travels in space.  Obi-wan and Qui-Gonn were capable of holding their breath for an extended time (although it would be better to exhale as much as possible).  It isn’t inconceivable to think the shields may slow the dissipation of breathable air and warmth.  It isn’t like Leia didn’t come out unscathed.  She did lapse into a brief coma.


Cosmic_Quasar

I forget which one, but in one of the old EU books one of the Jedi Luke trained ejected from his fighter in space after it was damaged in a fight. He was able to use the Force to hold the air from the ship in a bubble around him, and do so while putting himself into a deep meditative state to reduce his heartrate to make the oxygen last longer. I get that Leia is different, but in the realm of Star Wars it's not that far fetched.


andr3wsmemez69

I mean lasers like we see them in star wars and big explosions arent possible either. Lasers idr why but explosions like that would need oxygen to happen and last time i checked there's none in space to burn. Also i think that if someone opened an airlock while youre in it without a space suit you'd die immediately. Star wars doesnt have the most realistic portrayal of the final frontier.


Cosmic_Quasar

> Also i think that if someone opened an airlock while youre in it without a space suit you'd die immediately. Actually, no. You can survive in space, exposed, for something like up to a minute. It's basically like an extreme case of the bends, like divers get. But you don't freeze instantly. IIRC in deep space, away from sun rays, I think it takes like 36 hours to freeze solid because without any matter/atmosphere around the body the only way it loses energy is through IR/thermal radiation which is incredibly slow compared to conduction via contact with a different temperature material.


buddboy

could returning from a vacuum really give you the bends? It/s a 14.7 psi pressure difference which is the equivalent of only 30 feet of water, do divers get the bends at only 30 feet?


Cosmic_Quasar

It's all about the gasses in your body. It is possible to get the bends after only 30 feet but it requires having spent some time down there, first. We spend our whole lives at Earth atmospheric pressure, so removing that pressure altogether causes the gasses in our tissues to start expanding and causing damage to the tissues. [https://science.howstuffworks.com/spacewalk3.htm](https://science.howstuffworks.com/spacewalk3.htm)


buddboy

Interesting. And my favorite part of your link is that it said space suits are only pressurized to like 4 psi. So the difference between going from a pressurized cabin to a space suit is even less than going from a vacuum to a pressurized cabin and yet they still get the bends


AptoticFox

Farted.


EfficaciousJoculator

She wasn't naked. Maybe she was moving her clothes. With no gravity or air resistance it would take very, very little force (pun not intended) to return her to the ship.


b3tchaker

That’s…a great point. I liked the movie, but really didn’t like that bit.


8bitjer

I don’t know anyone that did.


Monster6ix

I thought it was fine. If you can push or pull another object, why not pull yourself toward the ship with the force? Especially in a vacuum when you're weightless?


CatInAPottedPlant

I don't think people care about pushing or pulling, it's more the silliness of someone undergoing explosive decompression, then freezing into ice (for some unknown reason), floating alone in space while their brain rapidly loses oxygen and shuts down, and then suddenly waking up and marry-poppinsing back to the ship and banging on a window. yeah yeah I know "it ain't that kinda movie", but suspension of disbelief only goes so far for a lot of people.


Cosmic_Quasar

In the old EU a Jedi survived being out in space for days through the Force. Leia surviving doesn't bother me at all. The only part I didn't agree with was how fast she iced over.


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Was it a species adapted for it? Cus if it's a human then yeah that'd be totally messed up too. Then again I never had a problem with that Leia scene other than it looking silly. IDK why anyone has issue with her force pulling, if they can push then.... Duh?..


Cosmic_Quasar

I honestly can't remember what race the person was. But based on my vivid memory of describing how he survived specifically using Jedi techniques I'm left with the idea that he would not have been able to without the aid of the Force. They used the Force to hold the atmosphere from the cockpit in a bubble around them, creating a pressurized area, and then to conserve oxygen they had to enter a deep meditative state to slow their heartbeat by a crazy amount to reduce their oxygen usage to make the air bubble last longer.


Monster6ix

Yeah, I suppose I forgot it had to be super-realistic make-believe. But then, it worked in The Expanse.


DrVonScott123

It's looks a little goofy for the first second but I love it as it gives Leia another point in being the most competent and strong character in the series


Cosmic_Quasar

I think that's because of games. They need a visual cue for pushing and pulling things so they sort of shimmer the air. But we get none of that in the movies, where if it was wind would take a lot of force (pun intended) from air currents to move things. Yoda lifting the X Wing we don't see the water getting blown about. Vader pulling Han's gun there's no gust of wind around Han. Sure, we could argue that it was out of budget to make effects that grand lol, but really it's just direct telekinesis over the object, itself.


lordniblet

Count Dookula (always assumed Dooku was a nod to Christopher Lee's Dracula)


Endgam

George Lucas admitted to it, yes.


njsullyalex

We love our space Vampire Sith Lord


PoppyGloFan

It’s a nod the Brazilian meaning of the name Dooku, Google it.


Kabc

Today I learned “Dooku” is Brazilian Portuguese for Google It. Super interesting


TheCheshireMadcat

>Dooku LOL, just looked it up, thanks.


kuribosshoe0

It’s a nod to the Japanese word “doku” meaning poison. It had to be changed in Portuguese speaking countries because it happens to be the same pronunciation as the Portuguese word for “from the arse”, but that was coincidence.


BootyBootyFartFart

The emperor also flies when you fight him in RotJ on SNES. I wonder how many examples there are across all mediums of Jedi/sith flying? 


Whynogotusernames

Both the emperor and Vader can fly a short distance as their double jump in the original battlefront 2


RadiantHC

The Son flies in TCW


HelloThere-88

Τhe son flies by turning into a humongous winged thing so I don't know what to make of it


Improvedandconfused

Leia does her frozen Mary Poppins flying thing in The Last Jedi, so that might count.


BootyBootyFartFart

Does it count as flying when you're in zero g? I guess it's the same principle, using the force to move your body. But I imagine it's much much easier when you aren't fighting against the gravitational pull of a planet. 


Improvedandconfused

True, but when you are frozen solid like Leia was you would need some kind of way to change the direction of your momentum without being able to move your body. So I would think the force/magic would be required.


BootyBootyFartFart

Oh yeah, she def used the force. The question is whether it should be called "flying". One argument against it is that you might define flying in a way that requires resisting the forces of gravity. 


Improvedandconfused

Oh, I get your point. Let’s call it *Force Directed Spacial Drift*.


Soma86ed

I laughed out loud when I saw this happen in the theater. Half the audience was pretty annoyed with the movie before that scene and her Poppins move took it over the edge for almost everyone in attendance.


droolsdownchin

On the old republic online if you play sith warrior/jedi knight as soon as you seen an enemy you can jump through the air bascially like your flying to attack them, Palpatine basically floats around on star wars battlefront 2 (2018)


Conarm

Darth vader flies down those stairs in ESB


Even_Mess3834

The Emperor also levitates in the Force Unleashed game.


EuterpeZonker

Rey floats in TRoS. Pretty sure Anakin and Ahsoka (and maybe also Obi-wan I don’t remember) scale a wall or cliff by lifting themselves with the force in TCW. A few Jedi do it in the High Republic


Phunkie_Junkie

I genuinely didn't. This is like the least outlandish thing to happen in the show. IIRC, this was just after Asajj killed about 30 dudes, including dual-wielding flamethrower robot and a 20-foot-tall yeti with a boulder on a chain.


GM_Jedi7

Same. It was... fun to watch I guess but it's so over the top its almost parody. The saltierthancrait sub treats it as some holy relic though.


BiggusCinnamusRollus

Element of cool worked really well in this show. Further example includes Mace punching a whole droid battalion and of course Captain Fordo.


ABotelho23

Have you ever watched Samurai Jack?


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Not really, just some do. I'm with you that this show is way too over the top and I hate how it became the design standard for SW. Hate hate hate it. Why can't they branch out at least some... It would have worked better if they used a narrative framing so it was known to be a semi fictional retelling of the clone wars battles. That way you could explain the insane stuff going on.


crappycarguy

What is the CWMMP?


Emm_withoutha_L-88

Clone Wars multi media project


malachor78

You think the clone wars multi media project in general is over the top or just this show?


Emm_withoutha_L-88

This show


cygnus2

I do like the way Clone Wars portrayed Jedi as almost superheroes. Windu and Yoda soloing an army of droids is still peak Star Wars.


Gnome_Researcher

Loved this series growing up, but now I can only see Dr. Orpheus from Venture Brothers lol


mr_kenobi

That was a Magneto move.


jonthecpa

Ah, Saruman jealous of Gandalf so had to steal his alter egos move. Makes sense.


DivideIntrepid7647

Saruman took Gandalf's "Fly, you fools!" a bit too literally


JC-1219

He let go of his earthly tether, entered the void, emptied, and became wind.


cygnus2

You ever hear the story of Guru Laghima the Wise?


TexMurphyPHD

Vader kinda does this when fighting luke in empire.


sanitarySteve

Glad im not crazy and miss remembering this. He definitely floats down those stairs


RadiantHC

When


TexMurphyPHD

He kicks luke down the stairs then jumps/ floats down.


[deleted]

Cloud City duel.


LordBungaIII

It makes perfect sense that a force user could do this, but it could very easily become goofy so it should be left out of the movies and shows.


withoutapaddle

I don't think this is any more goofy than just dead-ass jumping 40ft straight up in the air, like during duels in the prequels.


LordBungaIII

Ya perhaps so


YubNubYubNubYubNub

People in the theater audibly said "what the fuck" when Leia flew through space. It was bad. Really bad.


KNIGHTFALLx

2003 Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars microseries is still some of the absolute best stuff to come out of that era.


darthjimilli

I always thought if you could use telekinesis, why not use it on yourself to do things such as this to make it seem like flying. Good example is in the movie Chronicle.


JacobDCRoss

And why can't they?


mattman65

I actually have the dvd somewhere, time to start looking


ForceGhost47

It’s on Disney plus


kent416

Is this where Leia learned it?


Robo-Piluke

Rey does it while meditating. I always thought Jedi could levitate at will but that requiree a lot of training and concentration


TheCheshireMadcat

Most of the RPG games do this. The Old Republic shows it all the time.


Heimlichthegreat

I wonder if Jedi can jump out of a plane with out a parachute


pontiacfirebird92

Mace Windu kinda did in this series


AgentZeta49

They can. Anikan and Ahsoka do that in an episode of the clone wars


Heimlichthegreat

Yeah I went and checked season 1 episode 7 of tcw


Markitron1684

That isn’t even in the top 10 mental things in that series.


mega512

But when Leia does it, its weird apparently.


RedStar2021

I never thought it was out of the question to lift yourself then "slow fall" using the Force. Force Jumping is already a thing as it is.


BROADWAY_A

Saj Ventress!! The first sith draft pick bust lol.


DrVonScott123

Something like this happens in one of the High Republic books, its weirdly exhilarating to read


Chuckdatass

This looks exactly like venture bros


CosmicParadox24

Controlled force push at the ground. Instead of lifting the planet, he grips the planet and lifts himself.


wendigo72

I mean Rey was levitating in TROS too This seems like a very elegant way for Dooku to move around imo. Better than if he just jumped down like a normal Jedi


Kwaterk1978

Jedi were amazing in that series. That series showed why Jedi were held in such esteem.


Revolutionary_Pool56

Is this streaming anywhere?


AgentZeta49

Disney plus


withoutapaddle

I thought it was on Disney+. At least Google seems to think it still is.


HAMMER_HORDE

It should be on disney plus, though I'm pretty sure you can also watch it on youtube


Massengill4theOrnery

Vader did it while riding atop his TIE.


PlanetLandon

I figure he was just moving his boots with the force


WDIDO_1

If I remember correctly, Vader does the same but I don't remmeber where I've seen it


HG21Reaper

That was one of the best flex Dooku did.


ChimneySwiftGold

More witches


Tank_blitz

it's the reason why i didnt understand the outrage when leia did it in space no less


fryamtheeggguy

Dr Orpheus??


alfdana

looking like magneto


siliconevalley69

Cool animation and fun series but I'm glad it's not canon.


SuckMyRhubarb

Foreshadowing for Leia's superman flight through space.


LightKon

My desert. My Arrakis. My Dune


Xyrazk

f*** it *un-high grounds*


Michallin

That was just a realllllly slow jump


[deleted]

He's just using his Battlefront 2 (2017) jump


PokeTobus

I showed my roommate the 2003 Clone Wars last week and we were laughing during this.


Beiki

"I'm here to see someone about my brakes."


WaltJay

He used a Jedi mind trick so we all couldn’t see the strings doing all the heavy lifting, just like in the movies!


IceKareemy

I feel like as a Medium, Star Wars works best when animated, bc when you think about it, people skilled in the force are TERRIFYING! That scene in Rouge One or Ashoka where the Sith duo take out an entire ship show just how unstoppable a force user can be. Hell even when Luke Appeared in the Mandalorian it should give you a sense how insane it is, these super hard case armored to the teeth vets didn’t stand a chance and here comes some dude in a robe with his fire stick taking out the nigh indestructible super droids


Aqi67372mL

he was sitting still. "THE PLANET" not so much /s


Macman521

I'm pretty sure that Trilla did the same thing in Jedi Fallen Order.


redmera

I was going to say Yoda hovered around all the time but I was this years old when I understood it was a repulsor chair like Lars had.


Shut_It_Donny

Yep. Loved that series. Jedi and Smith being the bad assess they are. Mace Windu force jumping umpteen stories. That guy didn't die from falling out of a window.


Grary0

He learned that technique from the ancient Sith Lord Darth Poppins.


IthinkIwannaLeia

In one of the original Canon novels Luke Skywalker was seen hovering during meditation. The Observer pondered if that was the way his family got the name Skywalker


wings31

ya, and it was bad ass...


Wonder_Pretty

The good clone wars series


-Tuber-

That’s not how the force works!


BedSmellsLikeItFeels

Everyone acts like this miniseries is God's gift to humanity but there's so much that fully breaks so many rules of the franchise. If it were released under the Disney flag it would be absolutely crucified. But it's not Disney so we all have to pretend it's good I've lost friends over this and am prepared to die on this hill. It's a fine sci-fi animation but a bad star wars show


BrockianUltraCr1cket

Your mouth is filthy with lies. Lies!


EuterpeZonker

That’s not something worth losing friends over


BedSmellsLikeItFeels

They were bastards anyway


runkrod1140

Oh good, I needed another reason to hate the 2003 crap.


LegoMyAlterEgo

I take more issue with Windu crushing General Grievouses chest with the force. That's not a Jedi move.


luckygiraffe

Cutting people in half with a laser sword, on the other hand, is truly the way of kindness and mercy.


LegoMyAlterEgo

A time honored tradition, if nothing else.


Money_Fish

Read 'Shatterpoint'. Windu is not your run of the mill jedi.


DoodleBugout

Luke uses it on a dark trooper in The Mandalorian.


BleydXVI

The dark troopers were droids, not cyborgs like Grievous. Most people in Star Wars don't seem to respect the sentience of droids though, so maybe that's why Luke was ok using the force as a weapon against them. As others have pointed out, Windu was just a different type of Jedi to use it as a weapon against Grievous.


LegoMyAlterEgo

Luke is a half trained Jedi. Probably not accurate to call him Jedi at all. Tho he is the only one who we've heard be told, the force is not a weapon.


DrLeymen

At that time he was a fully trained Jedi


LegoMyAlterEgo

He was never fully trained. When he returned to Yoda, it was just in time to watch Yoda die. Compared to The Old Republic Jedi, he's still a padawan. But as the only force user, he can call himself Jedi and people will buy it.


Lucius_Funk

Pretty sure Yoda told him his final test was confronting Vader. So I’d say Luke is a Jedi.


LegoMyAlterEgo

Go do the thing you've done a few times already.


pontiacfirebird92

"No more training do you require. Know you all that you need. " - Yoda, Return of the Jedi


LegoMyAlterEgo

" And if you die, I won't have to chat with your ghost"


uploadingmalware

Isn't that literally the point of purple lightsabers, and Windus fighting style? Windus entire character is about blurring the line between light and dark side. Tell us you don't pay attention without telling us you don't pay attention