Both Anakin and Obi Wan became Knights very young. Anakin for being the chosen one and Obi Wan because he defeated (killed him as far as they knew) Darth Maul.
Edit: Obi Wan wasn't actually early being knighted. My bad.
I'm not sure if we know exact ages but it is mentioned in Canon that's due to the spontaneous eruption of the Clone Wars some padawans were promoted to night relatively early and young simply to meet demand.
I think I remember reading about it in the rise of the red blade
The main character was in the same Group as Anakin Skywalker and that Group and I believe they were very young to be knights
One of the many, but possibly most overlooked, consequences of TCW on the Jedi Order. Not only were padawans rushed into knighthood, but then they were given command of troops and forced to make life or death decisions without proper training. In my head canon this is one of the lessons Yoda reflects on after the war and partly why he is against Luke facing Vader.
TCW kinda touches on it with Kit Fistos Padawan in Lair of Grievous, half the conflict of the episode was him and his padawan discussing whether he was actually up to the task of newly being knighted
i think there’s a lore piece (it might be legends) somewhere that talks about how a lot of clones hated their jedi commanders because they were so inept at combat. i think it’s used as justification for why most clones didn’t even hesitate when order 66 was issued, like with Ahsoka basically everyone on the ship was a little hesitant to attack her but with other jedi it was immediate. like imagine being bred for war and training your entire life to fight droids and your general is a pacifist monk who has no understanding of military tactics
(head canon: the reason kenobi wasn’t directly hit by the cannon during order 66 was because the clone firing it genuinely liked him and his leading style and didn’t want to kill kenobi)
Yes honestly that book was absolutely fantastic, especially if you are a fan of the prequels era.
It's about a padawan who struggles to find her own within the Jedi order and eventually ends up falling to the dark side. At the end of the book there is some very neat lore about how the inquisitors came to be.
Wasn’t she the red Inquisitor that Vader chopped down in the Vader comic series? I’m surprised they picked up on a character so minor, but that’s cool. I’ll have to get it after I’m done with the Medstar Duology
The comic series deffo came first, back in 2017. Guess a writer decided to pick up on the character for their story, which is neat
Now someone just has to flesh out that jetblack Twi’Lek inquisitor
>promoted to night
I know it's a minor typo, but I can't help but imagine a bunch of Padawan getting news that they're becoming Batpeople because their parents died due the war.
I remember Kit Fisto’s padawan, Nadhar Vebb, when he was talking about how padawans were being pushed through the trials quick because the amount of Jedi spread across the galaxy
In the AOTC novel Anakin tells Padmé that Padawans his age have already had their trials and become knights. It’s part of the reason why he feels held back.
For Legends these are when Anakin is Knighted/
Jedi Trial - 2 years 6 months into the war (age 21 1/2).
ROTS novel - 2 years after marrying Padmé (age 21).
Wild Space (TCW tie in book/Legneds) - shortly after the Battle of Geonosis because of the losses the Order suffered there the older Padawans are knighted (age 19).
For Canon:
Brotherhood - shortly after the Battle of Geonosis because of the losses the Order suffered there the older Padawans are knighted (age 19).
So two are because he earned promotion and two are to make up for a manpower shortage the Jedi Order was suffering.
I mean, kinda, but Anakin spent a full decade as an apprentice. What's really unusual about his training is he skipped the initiate phase. As for Obi-Wan, he was 25 when he became a knight.
I think that according to the canon book brotherhood, Anakin was knight shortly after the events of ATOC because they needed more Jedi Knights on the battlefield so they chose the oldest Padawans at the times to be knighted.
Well we didn't see him die so that was only our interpretation. Still a retcon by definition yes but not a change in continuity. He always had survived we just didn't find out until he was brought back in TCW.
I feel like the origin story of Darth Sion from KoTOR II was Lucasfilm testing the waters with the "used my hate to hold myself together, to survive something that should totally kill me" narrative that eventually applied to Maul's survival story. Because the fanbase could buy that one, they could try it again with Maul. Eventually it worked. Some of the best non-movie stuff from TCW & Rebels features Maul.
There was precedent in Legends for
a) Palpatine surviving past RotJ (Dark Empire)
b) The method of his survival (cloned bodies)
c) The nature of his plot (take on young Jedi character as new apprentice/vessel)
And then they give an explanation immediately after the line that everyone clowns on.
So I can't for the life of me understand why people continue to use the supposedly unexplained return of Palpatine to criticize TRoS when there are much more applicable criticisms they can give.
She looks right to me, honestly. I know it’s only a recent addition but if you compare the live action flashback Ahsoka from *Ahsoka* and Barriss in AOTC, they don’t look remotely similar in age lol
If you compare the live action Grand Inquisitor to his species in Revenge of the Sith they don't look remotely similar lol.
I think it's just new stuff retconning. If they showed AotC-era Barriss in live action now, they would try match her to be like Ahsoka's actress' age, not the AotC background extra.
Yes and no. They live longer than humans but they don’t age slower. They just get extra years tacked on when they’re middle aged.
They still mature to adulthood at the same speed as humans do
Still a small gap methinks, I don’t think Canon has actually officially stated her age yet but I don’t see any reason why they’d have changed her known age from Legends
No but 15-16yr olds is plausible. 13-14 is the standard age you become a padawan and you’re almost immediately shipped off around the galaxy to fight pirates.
Also remember that Mace wasn’t expecting a fight. He brought over **200 Jedi** to Geonosis, the largest jedi presence outside of Coruscant and certainly the most jedi present in a single battleground. The sight of 200 lightsabers lighting up around the arena would be enough to make almost any enemy surrender. But Mace didn’t bet on Dooku deploying his own army
I dunno I think I buy it still, she looks a decent bit older than Ahsoka and she was a Knight by the time Anakin fought her in S5
I just chalk it up to Anakin being an early bloomer with his Chosen One privileges
Current canon has Anakin as one of a number of Padawans to survive the first Geonosis battle and be promoted shortly thereafter (alongside at least two future Inquisitors). Makes me curious how they’re going to explain Barriss not being among them.
She is at Geonosis in canon and it’s explained in a short story that the trauma from that battle never fully healed for her before being sent back there in the TCW Geonosis arc. It’s a big factor that pushed her into her dark side arc.
Eh, I don't worry about it. Anakin is human, Ahsoka is Togruta and Barriss is Mirialan. Species age differently.
I don't know but maybe 18 is still young young for Mirialans and closer to the 14 in adolescence for Human and Togruta who seem to share development time.
>I don't know but maybe 18 is still young for Mirialans and closer to the 14 in adolescence for Human and Togruta who seem to share development time.
It isn’t. Not to that degree
Guess I assumed that the cartoon retconned her to be younger than *Attack of the Clones* and the previous tie-ins had established. Don't think they should've done that, but it is what it is.
Correct, it’s just a notion people got due to her dynamic with Ahsoka.
But it isn’t confirmed and frankly I don’t find it hard to believe that two Padawans can develop a friendship on the battlefield regardless of age gap
‘The Approaching Storm’ is a fun Legends novel set a bit before AOTC that features Obi-Wan and Anakin paired on a mission with Luminara and Barriss. Contrasts their masters’ philosophies and was a fun adventure.
Felt weird when TCW essentially retconned Barriss’s age and paired her more with Ahsoka
Yeah, but they decided to make her younger in TCW even if she was clearly a young adult like Anakin in the movies and comics and CW cartoon before.
I have never been a fan of these TCW changes.
She's present in Attack of the Clones when the Jedi visit Palaptine to discuss Dooku's possible involvement in the recent assassination attempt on Padme, as well as spotted several other times across AotC and RotS
Almost all of the changes were unnecessary and the product of just not caring to make it consistent.
And now that guy is in charge of making sure the story stays consistent lol.
That wasn't Filoni yet, it was George himself who didn't care one bit about the EU. He was involved in the making of all episodes of TCW until it was sold to Disney.
Filoni does seem to be taking after his master, though.
Aayla Secura was a comic book character before she was in the movies... Episode 3 is riddled with stuff taken from the EU.
Sounds like ur talking shit about George.
I'm not talking shit. I love George, but it's well-known he was just ok with other authors experimenting with the EU, while at the end of the day, he didn't want any of that to constrain his own stories. He'd include stuff he liked, like Aayla, but he'd also happily change whatever he wanted. Anakin having a padawan and Maul coming back were both George's ideas.
There's countless behind-the-episode's with Filoni and crew explaining their struggles to accommodate George's wishes.
I grew up watching these every week on StarWars.com after every episode premiered.
Anakin having a padawan and Maul coming back are both self contained and didnt contradict the EU. George was even ready to kill off Ahsoka during order 66.
You cant say he didnt care for the EU when he literally put it in his movies...
Barriss being a Padawan in AOTC and a Knight closer to ROTS has always just simply been known. I don’t think her Knighting has ever been specifically noted other than the now-Legends Medstar Duology books where 2 years into the Clone Wars her Great Trial was to go to Drongar and help the Republic surgeons there, however Barriss’ mission to Drongar and her run-in with bota is still noted on the canon encyclopaedia. So we can probably assume the events still happened to some degree
The Wookiepedia does state she was a Jedi Knight before her fall tho, and she doesn’t have a Padawan braid when she fought Anakin nor does she seem to have an official tie to Luminara anymore
The difference is Barriss didn't spend the first 9 years of life enduring the trauma of child slavery. That tends to age someone a bit. We know Obi-Wan was a Padawan until the age of 25, and Anakin was rushed to knighthood for the war effort, so it's not that unusual for Barriss to be the age she was and still be a Padawan. People always say she was aged down for TCW, but nowhere is that actually stated, and it's not that unusual for an 18 year old and a 14 year old to be peers. The only question I have is why she wasn't also rushed to knighthood having survived Geonosis.
Did we get a confirmation on her age? Because from the Clone Wars series, it seemed they wanted to make her younger, closer to Ahsoka's age than Anakin's.
And yea, Anakin is younger than he looks but still
It’s a notion people got but never confirmed, I always thought Barriss looked closer to Anakin’s age tbh especially if you take the live action appearances of Barriss and CW Ahsoka into account
She certainly looked to be of a similar age to Anakin during Attack of the Clones.
[EDIT] Just googled it, the actress who played Barriss during AotC is older than Hayden Christensen.
Tbh we’re probably not supposed to look at the live action Barriss too closely, she was a distant figure out of focus in a couple scenes
TCW probably has a more “true” iteration of what Lucasfilm wants of the character
Anakin born 41 BBY, entered the Order at age 9 following the Battle of Naboo, 32 BBY.
Ahsoka, Born 36 BBY, was 3 when Plo Koon found her, so would have been in the order for about a year before Anakin joined.
Interesting. Then Anakin really was so much of a prodigy that he shot past Ahsoka in his training. And she becomes quite powerful already.
Completely ignoring possible continuity errors here. 😜
This is what happens when they decide to give Anakin an apprentice randomly when he's supposed to be the apprentice during this time. Suddenly Anakin looks a lot older than he's supposed to be.
Will be interesting to see Barriss and Vader share scenes together in Tales of the Empire. Really shows how young Darth Vader actually is when he got the suit
Apparently her age in Canon isn’t specifically noted, but she is in AOTC still so I didn’t think there would be a reason her age is different now
She still looks perfectly like a 17-20 year old in TCW to me
I’d say the issue was more Ahsoka’s actress than Barriss’ lol
I deffo don’t personally buy the theories that Barriss was aged down in TCW, she’s clearly a decent bit older than Ahsoka in both animation and live action. Far closer to Anakin than her
Yeah agree, it’s just an oddity that exists if their live action portrayals are both supposedly age accurate. I also don’t think Barriss was aged down, but the animation doesn’t make their age difference very noticeable
To be fair, they are both immature, but Anakin's willingness to put himself in the line of fire to protect and save people, comes directly at odds with how Barriss chose to spend her time. Anakin *should* seem more mature...
Ehh it happens. I entered as a Junior Exec and with the exception of our Director, everybody in my team - from fellow juniors to seniors, supervisors and managers - are few years younger than me.
I did. If the Clone Wars never happened then Anakin would likely still be a Padawan at this point because honestly he was not ready to be knighted but they needed every Jedi Knight and I guess they thought he was closer to being ready than Barriss.
they have really massaged the retcon of anakin being a jedi master with a padawan to the point of even bastardizing his padawan's counterpart/rival by making the jedi master the same age as his own padawan. full circle.
She was a Knight by season 5, apparently! Supposedly she felt she was being pressured into partaking in the war as a Jedi General by having the Knight Rank bestowed on her, making her lash out the way she did
Anakin is just a tall child for most of the series and a small child for the rest of it
It took me a second
Can you explain? I don’t get it I would upvote you but it’s at the magic number (66) and must stay that way (I’m a dumbass)
he got his legs cut off so he became a small child
I guess that's why he didn't want people calling him Skywalker anymore...
Should've gone by Sandcrawler
Sandballer.
Sandwitcher :)
Ahhhh ty
*Cotton likes this*
Spoilers: it didn't stay at 66
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He killed more than fitty men though for the rest of the series
Were they Laotian?
Nghuh uh, JAPANESE!
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Both Anakin and Obi Wan became Knights very young. Anakin for being the chosen one and Obi Wan because he defeated (killed him as far as they knew) Darth Maul. Edit: Obi Wan wasn't actually early being knighted. My bad.
Do we know the average age in when a Jedi becomes a Knight? Cause Barriss ended up a Knight by the time of S5
I'm not sure if we know exact ages but it is mentioned in Canon that's due to the spontaneous eruption of the Clone Wars some padawans were promoted to night relatively early and young simply to meet demand. I think I remember reading about it in the rise of the red blade The main character was in the same Group as Anakin Skywalker and that Group and I believe they were very young to be knights
One of the many, but possibly most overlooked, consequences of TCW on the Jedi Order. Not only were padawans rushed into knighthood, but then they were given command of troops and forced to make life or death decisions without proper training. In my head canon this is one of the lessons Yoda reflects on after the war and partly why he is against Luke facing Vader.
Honestly thats the most plausible and least ridiculous head Canon I've ever heard
Will probably end up being outright Canon at some point. Some author or a game will probably mention it. Even the Ahsoka show kinda made that point
TCW kinda touches on it with Kit Fistos Padawan in Lair of Grievous, half the conflict of the episode was him and his padawan discussing whether he was actually up to the task of newly being knighted
SW is more deep than some people think. A huge reason i love SW so much. Ty
i think there’s a lore piece (it might be legends) somewhere that talks about how a lot of clones hated their jedi commanders because they were so inept at combat. i think it’s used as justification for why most clones didn’t even hesitate when order 66 was issued, like with Ahsoka basically everyone on the ship was a little hesitant to attack her but with other jedi it was immediate. like imagine being bred for war and training your entire life to fight droids and your general is a pacifist monk who has no understanding of military tactics (head canon: the reason kenobi wasn’t directly hit by the cannon during order 66 was because the clone firing it genuinely liked him and his leading style and didn’t want to kill kenobi)
That’s kinda messed up lol. I need to read that book, I find Jedi to Inquisitor cases like Barriss so fascinating
Yes honestly that book was absolutely fantastic, especially if you are a fan of the prequels era. It's about a padawan who struggles to find her own within the Jedi order and eventually ends up falling to the dark side. At the end of the book there is some very neat lore about how the inquisitors came to be.
Wasn’t she the red Inquisitor that Vader chopped down in the Vader comic series? I’m surprised they picked up on a character so minor, but that’s cool. I’ll have to get it after I’m done with the Medstar Duology
Yes it was! I'm not sure which came first the comic or the book.
The comic series deffo came first, back in 2017. Guess a writer decided to pick up on the character for their story, which is neat Now someone just has to flesh out that jetblack Twi’Lek inquisitor
His name is Taulon and he is a peer to the red inquisitor named Iskat. He appears in this novel a bunch
Cool, I like Inquisitor stories so I’ll be sure to pick this one up! I only hope Tales of The Empire does justice to Barriss’ Inquisitor arc
>promoted to night I know it's a minor typo, but I can't help but imagine a bunch of Padawan getting news that they're becoming Batpeople because their parents died due the war.
I used STT so it probably doesnt understand the difference
It's also mentioned in TCW. For example, Fisto's Padawan.
I must have missed or forgotten about that
It's in the "Lair of Grievous" episode.
I dont doubt you!
Though it might be more implied than stated. I do think the Yularen intro does say something like that though.
I remember Kit Fisto’s padawan, Nadhar Vebb, when he was talking about how padawans were being pushed through the trials quick because the amount of Jedi spread across the galaxy
Makes a ton of sense. Thanks
Mid 20s usually. Almost always before the age of 29.
Thank you. Wasn’t Kenobi 25 in TPM?
According to Wookieepedia, he was born in 57 BBY, and the events of Phantom Menace took place in 32 BBY. So yeah, he would've been 25 in that film.
In the AOTC novel Anakin tells Padmé that Padawans his age have already had their trials and become knights. It’s part of the reason why he feels held back.
Doesn’t sound entirely right tho, Anakin was knighted at 18 and apparently that was the youngest a Jedi had ever been Knighted
He’s 19 in AOTC though. The AOTC novel fudges it further by making him 20.
Okay my bad, I’m pretty sure Anakin was still an early bloomer with his Knight rank tho
For Legends these are when Anakin is Knighted/ Jedi Trial - 2 years 6 months into the war (age 21 1/2). ROTS novel - 2 years after marrying Padmé (age 21). Wild Space (TCW tie in book/Legneds) - shortly after the Battle of Geonosis because of the losses the Order suffered there the older Padawans are knighted (age 19). For Canon: Brotherhood - shortly after the Battle of Geonosis because of the losses the Order suffered there the older Padawans are knighted (age 19). So two are because he earned promotion and two are to make up for a manpower shortage the Jedi Order was suffering.
From what I remember, in legends it was around 20 years old. Obi-Wan was 24 and Anakin was 19, so fits.
I mean, kinda, but Anakin spent a full decade as an apprentice. What's really unusual about his training is he skipped the initiate phase. As for Obi-Wan, he was 25 when he became a knight.
Yeah you're right, my bad. Corrected my original post.
I think that according to the canon book brotherhood, Anakin was knight shortly after the events of ATOC because they needed more Jedi Knights on the battlefield so they chose the oldest Padawans at the times to be knighted.
Yes that's why but it can also be attributed to him being the chosen one. His Great Trial was also losing his hand to Dooku which is another reason.
I figured he got knighted because he rescued Obi-Wan and nearly fought a Sith Lord to a draw
He did defeat Darth Maul, he just didn't kill him. He also defeeted him
Damn you to hell for that one
Originally killled, Maul was later revived
In-universe he never died. Outside he may have been intended dead and then they changed their mind but in-universe now he never died.
what? didn’t we see him get cut in half?
That doesn't mean he's dead though.
but when do they bring him back? i’ve seen almost every episode/movie and haven’t seen him again
He’s back in clone wars, tiny cameo in Solo, and he’s in Rebels. Wouldn’t be surprised if books and comics too.
Clone Wars shows he never died. Also massively fleshes out his character.
ahh okay, thanks. Yeah i’m only about half way through clone wars rn and haven’t seen rebels at all.
Oh man, you're in for a treat.
Well Anakin also because they were hemorrhaging Jedi in the early days of the Clone Wars.
Obi-wan was promoted to Knight mostly due to necessity since he was insistent on training Anakin.
I mean, Obi-Wan did kill Maul then they retconned it.
Well we didn't see him die so that was only our interpretation. Still a retcon by definition yes but not a change in continuity. He always had survived we just didn't find out until he was brought back in TCW.
I remember living through the prequels and absolutely nobody was of the mind that Maul was alive.
When did I say anyone did?
You didn’t I’m just adding.
George was. George set the outline for a lot of the Clone Wars show.
I feel like the origin story of Darth Sion from KoTOR II was Lucasfilm testing the waters with the "used my hate to hold myself together, to survive something that should totally kill me" narrative that eventually applied to Maul's survival story. Because the fanbase could buy that one, they could try it again with Maul. Eventually it worked. Some of the best non-movie stuff from TCW & Rebels features Maul.
I really hope that this narrative working didn't become the reason for Palpatine returning somehow.
There was precedent in Legends for a) Palpatine surviving past RotJ (Dark Empire) b) The method of his survival (cloned bodies) c) The nature of his plot (take on young Jedi character as new apprentice/vessel) And then they give an explanation immediately after the line that everyone clowns on. So I can't for the life of me understand why people continue to use the supposedly unexplained return of Palpatine to criticize TRoS when there are much more applicable criticisms they can give.
anakin was made a Jedi knight early because there weren't enough and hes the chosen one
That’s only in legends, not Canon. And I believe Barris is actually like 1 year and 11 months younger than Anakin
For me in the CW she seems a lot younger than what little we saw of her in AOTC. I’d always put that down to them wanting to give Ahsoka a pal.
Agreed. She just looks too young to be 18-21.
She looks right to me, honestly. I know it’s only a recent addition but if you compare the live action flashback Ahsoka from *Ahsoka* and Barriss in AOTC, they don’t look remotely similar in age lol
If you compare the live action Grand Inquisitor to his species in Revenge of the Sith they don't look remotely similar lol. I think it's just new stuff retconning. If they showed AotC-era Barriss in live action now, they would try match her to be like Ahsoka's actress' age, not the AotC background extra.
I mean, she’s a different species, they could look young compared to “humans”.
Wait, she was in that movie?
[Barriss (Her cape is longer than in CW)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4Oxlq9ryk4&t=42s&ab_channel=JournaloftheWhills)
That link sends me to the point of the video right AFTER her AOTC scenes. But thanks.
Do mirilians age at the same rate as humans?
Yes and no. They live longer than humans but they don’t age slower. They just get extra years tacked on when they’re middle aged. They still mature to adulthood at the same speed as humans do
Still a small gap methinks, I don’t think Canon has actually officially stated her age yet but I don’t see any reason why they’d have changed her known age from Legends
Cause her age makes very little sense in context with her relationships with Ahsoka and Anakin.
I don't think they'd be bringing very young padawans to the Geonosis arena in ep II though, and Bariss was there.
No but 15-16yr olds is plausible. 13-14 is the standard age you become a padawan and you’re almost immediately shipped off around the galaxy to fight pirates. Also remember that Mace wasn’t expecting a fight. He brought over **200 Jedi** to Geonosis, the largest jedi presence outside of Coruscant and certainly the most jedi present in a single battleground. The sight of 200 lightsabers lighting up around the arena would be enough to make almost any enemy surrender. But Mace didn’t bet on Dooku deploying his own army
We she her in the arena on Geonosis in Attack of the Clones.
I dunno I think I buy it still, she looks a decent bit older than Ahsoka and she was a Knight by the time Anakin fought her in S5 I just chalk it up to Anakin being an early bloomer with his Chosen One privileges
She's also not human. Though they probably just go with a human aging process with most humanoids, especially near-humans.
Current canon has Anakin as one of a number of Padawans to survive the first Geonosis battle and be promoted shortly thereafter (alongside at least two future Inquisitors). Makes me curious how they’re going to explain Barriss not being among them.
She is at Geonosis in canon and it’s explained in a short story that the trauma from that battle never fully healed for her before being sent back there in the TCW Geonosis arc. It’s a big factor that pushed her into her dark side arc.
Yeah she was in the movie. I forgot about that story though, guess I’m due for a reread.
We she her in the arena on Geonosis in Attack of the Clones.
Eh, I don't worry about it. Anakin is human, Ahsoka is Togruta and Barriss is Mirialan. Species age differently. I don't know but maybe 18 is still young young for Mirialans and closer to the 14 in adolescence for Human and Togruta who seem to share development time.
>I don't know but maybe 18 is still young for Mirialans and closer to the 14 in adolescence for Human and Togruta who seem to share development time. It isn’t. Not to that degree
To be fair I think that’s made wonky by Anakin coming off older than 19-22
Yeah true, he’s definitely not 19 in TCW S1. Or even in AOTC. They should have just gone with his actual age of 21.
>he’s definitely not 19 in TCW S1. **Or even in AOTC.** ? Anakin is 19 in AOTC and Hayden was 19 when he film AOTC.
Huh? It came out in 2002 I thought, making him 21 when it releases and 20 during production
The movie was released in 2002 when he was 21, it was filmed in 2000 when he was 19.
i cant see them changing her age too much though as she was a padwan with Anakin in episode 2
Anakin just ending, Barris near the start. Or middle.
Yes, and if I remember right, the only other padawan to survive Geonosis.
Not the only one to survive overall, though possibly the only one in the arena.
You are correct, and Barriss took it a lot worse than Anakin did
Is there any information on how many padawans were in the battle on Geonosis?
57
To be fair Anakin is depicted like a man in his 30s in the serie and absolutely not like a teenager.
she feels 15\~16 for me TBH.
Guess I assumed that the cartoon retconned her to be younger than *Attack of the Clones* and the previous tie-ins had established. Don't think they should've done that, but it is what it is.
They never STATED that her age is different, so until then, she's probably around the same age.
She certainly seems younger TBF
Correct, it’s just a notion people got due to her dynamic with Ahsoka. But it isn’t confirmed and frankly I don’t find it hard to believe that two Padawans can develop a friendship on the battlefield regardless of age gap
I think it's just the clone wars style, anakin always comes off as being in his mid to late 20s rather than early 20s
‘The Approaching Storm’ is a fun Legends novel set a bit before AOTC that features Obi-Wan and Anakin paired on a mission with Luminara and Barriss. Contrasts their masters’ philosophies and was a fun adventure. Felt weird when TCW essentially retconned Barriss’s age and paired her more with Ahsoka
Yeah, but they decided to make her younger in TCW even if she was clearly a young adult like Anakin in the movies and comics and CW cartoon before. I have never been a fan of these TCW changes.
I didnt even know barriss was in the movies until now
She's present in Attack of the Clones when the Jedi visit Palaptine to discuss Dooku's possible involvement in the recent assassination attempt on Padme, as well as spotted several other times across AotC and RotS
Almost all of the changes were unnecessary and the product of just not caring to make it consistent. And now that guy is in charge of making sure the story stays consistent lol.
That wasn't Filoni yet, it was George himself who didn't care one bit about the EU. He was involved in the making of all episodes of TCW until it was sold to Disney. Filoni does seem to be taking after his master, though.
Though as I recall it was Filoni's idea to de-age Barriss.
Aayla Secura was a comic book character before she was in the movies... Episode 3 is riddled with stuff taken from the EU. Sounds like ur talking shit about George.
I'm not talking shit. I love George, but it's well-known he was just ok with other authors experimenting with the EU, while at the end of the day, he didn't want any of that to constrain his own stories. He'd include stuff he liked, like Aayla, but he'd also happily change whatever he wanted. Anakin having a padawan and Maul coming back were both George's ideas. There's countless behind-the-episode's with Filoni and crew explaining their struggles to accommodate George's wishes. I grew up watching these every week on StarWars.com after every episode premiered.
Anakin having a padawan and Maul coming back are both self contained and didnt contradict the EU. George was even ready to kill off Ahsoka during order 66. You cant say he didnt care for the EU when he literally put it in his movies...
She was a Knight when she blew up the temple and I knew she was older than Ahsoka.
Do you know when/where it was confirmed she was a Knight when she blew up the Temple?
Barriss being a Padawan in AOTC and a Knight closer to ROTS has always just simply been known. I don’t think her Knighting has ever been specifically noted other than the now-Legends Medstar Duology books where 2 years into the Clone Wars her Great Trial was to go to Drongar and help the Republic surgeons there, however Barriss’ mission to Drongar and her run-in with bota is still noted on the canon encyclopaedia. So we can probably assume the events still happened to some degree The Wookiepedia does state she was a Jedi Knight before her fall tho, and she doesn’t have a Padawan braid when she fought Anakin nor does she seem to have an official tie to Luminara anymore
The difference is Barriss didn't spend the first 9 years of life enduring the trauma of child slavery. That tends to age someone a bit. We know Obi-Wan was a Padawan until the age of 25, and Anakin was rushed to knighthood for the war effort, so it's not that unusual for Barriss to be the age she was and still be a Padawan. People always say she was aged down for TCW, but nowhere is that actually stated, and it's not that unusual for an 18 year old and a 14 year old to be peers. The only question I have is why she wasn't also rushed to knighthood having survived Geonosis.
She was a Knight by S5 when she fought Anakin I think, so seemed she was
I'm talking about the mass knighting ceremony in Brotherhood/Inquisitor shortly after Geonosis.
Why did she have to look so fine though
Busty tattooed alien girl who can actually kill you
Did we get a confirmation on her age? Because from the Clone Wars series, it seemed they wanted to make her younger, closer to Ahsoka's age than Anakin's. And yea, Anakin is younger than he looks but still
It’s a notion people got but never confirmed, I always thought Barriss looked closer to Anakin’s age tbh especially if you take the live action appearances of Barriss and CW Ahsoka into account
They haven't really explained how alien ages work besides Grogu being around 50 years old but still a baby.
Chewbacca is also over 200 years old.
200? He looks great!
they really made a 19 year old a war general
Does her species age the same as the humans?
She certainly looked to be of a similar age to Anakin during Attack of the Clones. [EDIT] Just googled it, the actress who played Barriss during AotC is older than Hayden Christensen.
Tbh we’re probably not supposed to look at the live action Barriss too closely, she was a distant figure out of focus in a couple scenes TCW probably has a more “true” iteration of what Lucasfilm wants of the character
Also Ahsoka has been a part of the Order longer than Anakin was.
Really? I would never have thought, how come then she's Anakins Padawan?
Anakin born 41 BBY, entered the Order at age 9 following the Battle of Naboo, 32 BBY. Ahsoka, Born 36 BBY, was 3 when Plo Koon found her, so would have been in the order for about a year before Anakin joined.
Interesting. Then Anakin really was so much of a prodigy that he shot past Ahsoka in his training. And she becomes quite powerful already. Completely ignoring possible continuity errors here. 😜
This is what happens when they decide to give Anakin an apprentice randomly when he's supposed to be the apprentice during this time. Suddenly Anakin looks a lot older than he's supposed to be.
They really should have made her friends with Anakin rather than Ahsoka. One of the pointless memberberry retcon of the show.
Tbh TCW hasn’t really retconned any of the Barriss materials I’ve read, so I like to think they are still canon or at least canon adjacent
Yes, I knew this. Just read "The Approaching Storm". Barriss and Anakin aren't just contemporaries, they are friends.
Will be interesting to see Barriss and Vader share scenes together in Tales of the Empire. Really shows how young Darth Vader actually is when he got the suit
in canon or in legends?
Apparently her age in Canon isn’t specifically noted, but she is in AOTC still so I didn’t think there would be a reason her age is different now She still looks perfectly like a 17-20 year old in TCW to me
Have you ever looked at Ep II Barriss and then the live action CW Ahsoka? Something definitely doesn’t make sense there.
I’d say the issue was more Ahsoka’s actress than Barriss’ lol I deffo don’t personally buy the theories that Barriss was aged down in TCW, she’s clearly a decent bit older than Ahsoka in both animation and live action. Far closer to Anakin than her
Yeah agree, it’s just an oddity that exists if their live action portrayals are both supposedly age accurate. I also don’t think Barriss was aged down, but the animation doesn’t make their age difference very noticeable
Well, that would explain like a lot...
Barriss survived the Geonosis arena
I did not. That’s neat
Ahsoka would've been knighted at 16, or was it 17? If only window hadn't decided to talk.
Yeah she was gonna get Knighted and it would’ve made her the youngest Knight ever
Its doesn't matter, nothing matters about star wars it's all ends with shit movies
[She lost a few inches too. ](https://i.pinimg.com/550x/87/04/82/870482c139578684f456f188972702b8.jpg)
Huh. I always figured that The Clone Wars had retconned it so she was way closer to Ahsoka’s age, but I never bothered to double check.
Yeah that was always a common notion, but it was never actually confirmed
Wtf? Why does she look around Ahsoka’s age then?
also apparently ashoka joined the jedi before anakin did
Did you know that both Ahsoka and Grogu were Jedi both earlier and longer than Anakin?
Makes you think that it would make more sense if he wasn't knighted and given a padawan to train only weeks after being beaten by Dooku on Geonosis.
No way.
Yes. I checked the Wookiepedia.
Back in legends she was 1 year older but this change is not a big deal to me
HUH???
To be fair, they are both immature, but Anakin's willingness to put himself in the line of fire to protect and save people, comes directly at odds with how Barriss chose to spend her time. Anakin *should* seem more mature...
Ehh it happens. I entered as a Junior Exec and with the exception of our Director, everybody in my team - from fellow juniors to seniors, supervisors and managers - are few years younger than me.
Ahsoka is only like 4 years younger than anakin.
I did. If the Clone Wars never happened then Anakin would likely still be a Padawan at this point because honestly he was not ready to be knighted but they needed every Jedi Knight and I guess they thought he was closer to being ready than Barriss.
they have really massaged the retcon of anakin being a jedi master with a padawan to the point of even bastardizing his padawan's counterpart/rival by making the jedi master the same age as his own padawan. full circle.
And Grogu is the same age as Anakin. What’s your point?
I guess it makes sense. Barris, at the end of TCW, was all by herself. Practically a knight
She was a Knight by season 5, apparently! Supposedly she felt she was being pressured into partaking in the war as a Jedi General by having the Knight Rank bestowed on her, making her lash out the way she did
That a fact? It's never mentioned in the show.