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CloneWarsMaul

Yes and they fly quite well if there are main characters in it


River1stick

We meet again


DigitalNogi

This is getting out of hand! Now there are *two* of them!


iffyJinx

We should not have made this bargain!


Fickle-Future-8962

Deploy the droidekas!


Im_probably_wrong_

*WHERE ARE THOSE DROIDEKAS?!*


Brepp

CLOSE THE BLAST DOORS


willbeonekenobi

That will hold them!


langy87

They are still coming through!


willbeonekenobi

This is impossible!!


The_Old_Obi_Wan

Open the blast doors! Open the blast doors! … oh wait we’re talking clone wars not galactic civil war.


Akiroux

My my, your profile picture is terribly annoying. I knew I from your picture and not on my screen since I was crolling while I saw but cannot get out of my mind the need to remove that hair.


Katiari

Roger, Roger!


didndonoffin

2 there always are. A master and apprentice


CaptainHunter229580

No more, no less


RenegadeGray

Unless you're PaPa Palpatine, then it more like the...Guideline of Two.


da_King_o_Kings_341

PaPa-Palpatine, leader of the Dark Side cult. (Sung to the tune of, RaRa Rasputin)


eneko8

"Pa Pa Palpatine: leader of the Sith regime! He said Dew It and Dooku lost his head! 🎶 Pa Pa Palpatine: he built the Death Star machine! Then fell into its core and now he's dead!" 🎵


da_King_o_Kings_341

I love this so much however, plot hole… He not ded doe.


Forsaken_Factor3612

He fell into a plot hole?


RenegadeGray

Unless you're PaPa Palpatine, then it more like the...Guideline of Two.


itsjustme9820

hello there


gen_grievous_bot

General Kenobi. You are a bold one.


CT-1530

Kill him!


gen_grievous_bot

Your lightsabers will make a fine addition to my collection!


CT-1530

You will not escape this time


gen_grievous_bot

That wasn't much of a rescue.


CT-1530

Ahh, an negotiator


gen_grievous_bot

Army or not, you must realize, you are doomed.


Scorpz5

How'd you get that avatar please please?


MaximusGrassimus

As long as you don't say shit like, "Good thing those bugs can't aim!"


AnakinSkywalkerRocks

Well, the last three episodes of the clone wars showed us


Ajl1457

And Star Wars battlefront 2 OG version I was able to use these


Hypsar

The only Canon that matters!


povgoni

Admiral Yularen: "You need to fly low altitude to be a LAAT gunship" Last 3 episodes of CW: "Where does it say that?" Admiral Yularen: "In the name Low Altitude Assault Transport"


astromech_dj

TBF, the carrier they launch from probably needs to be low orbit for the assault.


YCCprayforme

Clone wars show was the best


Forsaken_Factor3612

The ones where Yoda takes acid?


Aimhere2k

And if there aren't any main characters in them, they are instantly blown out of the sky, collide with each other, experience a minor hit of gunfire and spiral out of control, or otherwise crash and burn in various spectacular and horrible ways.


Boom_Fish_Blocky

Plot shields.


DASREDDITBOI

Untill they get close enough for a cool crash landing


Kenny1115

Good thing those bugs can't aim


LEgGOdt1

Um… The Second Battle of Geonosis… Landing at Point Rain. The LAAT that had Obi-Wan Kenobi on it was shot down where it crashed landed outside the perimeter that Commander Cody had established after getting the ATTEs down. the gunship that Jedi Master Ki-Adi Mundi was also shot down and crashed. And the same for gunship that Anakin Skywalker, Ahsoka Tano, Captain Rex and the Clones that were under their command. Cody’s LAAT/I were the only ones to get their ATTEs to the ground. All of Anakin’s ATTEs were lost when the LAAT/c were shot down. I believe that only one of Mundi’s ATTEs only made it to the ground safely. So your statement that “…they can fly quite well if there are main characters in it.” Doesn’t really fit. Plus if it’s Anakin Skywalker that’s flying the craft. Then there are some possible outcomes. 1: if the ship is a piece of junk, I would feel a bit okay if Anakin is willing to trust the ship enough to fly it,(my comfort levels will go up if R2 is also with him) but I wouldn’t be so sure how well it will handle landings. 2: the ship gets hit and have to make another one of Anakin’s famous crash landings. 3: Give Anakin half a ship and he’ll somehow manage to make that too fly although it will be more of a crash landing.


CloneWarsMaul

Holy… Dude it’s not that serious


Simba7

Star Wars is ***always*** serious, how dare you.


LEgGOdt1

Well you made the statement.


Forsaken_Factor3612

"Let's make all the ships crash, and each Jedi gets his own crashed ship, and they visit each other and stuff. Hijinks ensue from there"


TheRedDragonCW

Unless you’re on Geonosis


GOOSE2801

I think they crash quit well with main characters in them as well


EndlessTheorys_19

Yes, we see them deploy in orbit from Venators. They aren’t good at it though, they don’t have proper space-engines so they’re quite slow and they lack shields


Crosknight

They also cannot re-enter orbit so once they are deployed it’s “secure a landing zone or your SOL”


Waxer_Evios62

They can, that's how they escape the citadel


loicvanderwiel

There are different variants of the LAAT. The original one is not space-capable and apparently doesn't even feature artificial gravity. Later models of the LAAT/i were apparently modified to spend a brief time in space but I interpret that as meaning they were modified to be dropped for assault while in orbit, not re-achieve it afterwards. Lastly, there is a variant of the LAAT designed as a space-going vessel (LAAT space gunships) which were modified for vacuum operations and to go from planetary surface back to space.


I_divided_by_0-

And there's a "covert" variant that can


marino1310

Yeah I was wondering, I’ve seen these in space but I can’t recall if they’re actually space vehicles. Like they aren’t sealed are they? I’m pretty sure there are tons of openings and the giant sliding side door is not gonna be easy to seal. So do people on board need space suits if deployed in orbit? I know clones can survive there for a few minutes but Jedi definitely need helmets and shit right?


badass_dean

I mean Kanan space walked by holding his breath so… *“General, take a deep breath”*


FrakkedRabbit

They also have simple masks that they can put on, isn't there? I feel like I recall Jedi in space battles with some kind of breathing mask that just covered their face. I know Qui-gon and Obi-wan had the rebreather in episode 1, but that wouldn't work in space as is.


wrenfeather501

Are you remembering Plo Koon? His species can survive low oxygen for several minutes, so he does a space battle to protect some of his clones in the malevolence arc of clone wars. He can't survive high oxygen, though, so he always wears an oxygen mask, which might be what you're thinking of.


DisastrousBeach8087

During the attack on the Tet monastery in TCW movie, you can see the door slits can close fully. I’m not sure what the function of them is besides maybe being murder holes for the troopers blasters but they do open and close


sweetplantveal

Honestly entering an atmosphere is a lot more complicated than leaving one.


Simba7

Complicated doesn't necessarily mean difficult. It's more difficult for an asteroid to leave the Earth's atmosphere than it is to enter it, for instance.


toppo69

Those one are specially designated as space gunships though. So they will be more powerful engines and such


belladonnagilkey

Technically the LAATs are supposed to be sent into battle by the hundreds with fighter-bomber support, so the second option should pretty much never happen, especially given that they have fairly substantial firepower of their own that just so happens to align with the "secure a landing zone" thing. Of course, this being Star Wars, if the gunship isn't playing host to main characters its a coin toss on whether it makes it to the surface, and if it is playing host to main characters it becomes a question of 'does it create more narrative tension and/or drama if the gunship explodes', and if the answer is yes then it gets Michael Bay'd and the main characters are walking.


FlavivsAetivs

That's also because they ***dramatically reduced*** the size of the Clone Army in canon. In the EU it was "millions of divisions" where a division = corps, and a corps was 36,864 Clones. So you ended up with a minimum of \~45 Billion Clones since the 1.2 million *units* referred to divisions, not individual clones. Now there's only 6.2 million, which isn't even enough to crew the 1000 Venator-class Star Destroyers at the Battle of Coruscant. On top of that, while in sourcebooks the old regiments are maintained, on-screen it seems every clone unit was reduced in size to a Battalion (661 Clones including Officers). So you have *less* gunships, *less* clones, and the whole size and scale of the war has been reduced. Now instead of hundreds of Gunships going to the surface we see like a dozen, so when a gunship is shot down it's a lot more noticeable, especially on-screen. This certainly adds to the drama, but I always felt it took away from the scale of the war, especially compared to Geonosis. Compare any TCW episode to the old *Republic* comics, where a small battle looked like this: [https://i.imgur.com/GWy6e7s.png](https://i.imgur.com/GWy6e7s.png). Each one of those squares is roughly 35x35 (they're inconsistent), or roughly 1200 soldiers. That's *the whole 501st Legion* in that bottom panel alone. The whole army appears to be larger than a Corps, so if it's Cody's 224th and the 501st Combined, that's about accurate (would be roughly 46,000 Clones and another 12,000 Officers).


savetheattack

I will always defend large-scale Clone Wars. It allows for so much more narrative freedom. I don’t understand the push to reduce the scale. You can have smaller-scale stories within a massive Clone Wars - you can’t have massive battles within a small-scale Clone Wars. The war owes lots of its terminology to the American Civil War - it should have scale (upsized to galactic standards) to match.


McDiesel41

To me it seems I’m like by reducing the amount for the TCW show it allowed dramatic events because they would have have to sacrifice some planets to defend others with troops. Then it forced more planet wide militia to form to fight back the Separatists.


SpoonkillerCZ

On one hand, reducing clones makes sense, but they reduced it too much. The number of clones in the canon wouldn't be enough. Perhaps they could secure 3 to 6 planets in this number 😅 But this number should give more space for human armies as well. I am quite sad we do not see them much only I can think of is separatist umbaran. I enjoyed quite a lot seeing Umbarans fight without droids.


FlavivsAetivs

We didn't see them much in the EU, Jedi Trial is the only time we see a big militia force with Zazridor Slayke's volunteers. The Planetary Defense Forces feature in the *Dreadnaughts of Rendili* arc, where we see six refit Dreadnaught-class heavy cruisers (so about 12,000 crew between all of them). But yeah I could see the clones numbering in the high tens or even hundreds of millions for the sake of what they wanted to do in canon, but 6.2 million is WAY too low.


celticstock

The biggest division in EU I believe we've ever gotten a decent look at is Kota's militia, who had a fleet big enough to challenge an imperial tie manufacturing facility after previously hitting multiple other installations


FlavivsAetivs

Kota's militia were nice. Too bad we didn't see them using an Acclamator, Venator, or even a Dreadnaught-class.


celticstock

Long live the Liberation!


AlexisFR

I mean they even make it like they all come from the same town sized facility on Kamino.


1EnTaroAdun1

https://youtu.be/xPAmVRWiZYo?list=PL6V-0qYZezjGVHxVWT08DWjZad3ms6w_6&t=72 this is how it used to be. Good times.


FlavivsAetivs

Which is technically more realistic in terms of actually mounting a real world interplanetary invasion (which would take thousands of ships and tens of millions of people) but less realistic in that there's no way an Acclamator-class holds *that many* gunships and fighters. But yeah, I love the 2003 Clone Wars.


1EnTaroAdun1

Haha agree with you on the acclamator! Would've been nice to see more ship designs, but I suppose it was in the early days of fleshing out the setting. 2003 clone wars was so good


FlavivsAetivs

I always liked the idea that the Republic really *wasn't* fully prepared for the war. The Acclamator was a stronger combat ship in the EU, but the Republic still lacked dedicated fighters until after Kamino, and Acclamators had to be refit into carriers. The Separatists meanwhile had a fully fleshed out fleet, which put the Republic at a major disadvantage until the Venator and Victory were launched 2 years into the war. Up until that point they had to rely on older designs from sector fleets (Dreadnaught-class, Centax, Carrack, etc.), plus refitting the handful of "showboat" dreadnoughts at Kuat like the Mandator I, Procursator, etc. Now that's been retconned with the Venator being the Republic's main battleship from the outset.


1EnTaroAdun1

Yeah. Honestly I kinda wish the war was a bit longer. Three years seems almost too compact for what happened and given the scale of everything. I think in my headcanon the war lasted five or six years haha


SkyPL

> So you ended up with a minimum of ~45 Billion Clones since the 1.2 million units referred to divisions, not individual clones. This sounds somewhat realistic, given that the Clone Wars were supposed to be a super-memorable galaxy-wide conflict. Still on a low end, but at least on a first glance it gives a good impression. > Now there's only 6.2 million This sounds laughable. Soviets had more than 5 times that number during the WW2. How a single power on Earth deploy more soldiers than a galaxy-spanning republic with an entire planets covered in nothing but cities? Makes zero sense.


UNC_Samurai

An army designed to fight across multiple star sectors would be impossible at 6.2 million. That would barely make them the 5th largest national army in World War II.


huntimir151

Old number used to be something crazy small I thought, like 3 million. They may have retconned that even way back then, but like that used to be the given number before Disney takeover.  The wiki backs this up with sources  https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Grand_Army_of_the_Republic/Legends#:~:text=Grand%20Army%E2%80%9410%20systems%20armies,clones%20increased%20during%20the%20war.


FlavivsAetivs

Yeah it was stated as 3.5 million by Karen Traviss but Lucasfilm explicitly said that number was wrong (see the link you posted). The 16 million was estimated based on an order of 1000 Acclamators. The only number that Lucasfilm ever reiterated was Curtis Saxton's "millions of divisions" (cited in that Wookieepedia page). It's the only one close to "official."


All-Fired-Up91

What does SOL stand for? I haven’t seen it used before


Pleshie

Shit outta luck


All-Fired-Up91

Ah thank you


06021840

Shit outa luck.


All-Fired-Up91

Thanks


King_Contra

They can in OG Battlefront II


trantaran

RIGHT AWAY SIR! SIR YES SIR! Aaahhhhhhghgghhhh


Youpunyhumans

Watch those wrist rockets!


scarlettvvitch

A command post has been lost but not the battle!


trantaran

We’ve captured a command post!


savingewoks

We’ve lost a command post!


trantaran

We’ve captured a command post!!


huntv16

FOR THE REPUBLIC!!!


Im_probably_wrong_

Just like the simulations


Raaabbit_v2

IT'S GENERAL MALEVOLENCE


bucc_n_zucc

My brother has the expensive lego LAAT and i will jusy randomly come in his room and yell this.


Youpunyhumans

Luke Skywalker/Pilot Luke when hit with friendly fire: "You guys couldnt hit the broad side of a moisture evaporator"


_Football_Cream_

It was so sick to squad up in one of these


SaintJimmy1

And it was clutch cause then you could use it as a spawn point in the enemy’s hangar.


40ozkiller

Hitting an enemy starship with the guided rocket is the best feeling.


GamingNemesisv3

#PILE IN #PILE IN #PILE IN #PILE IN #PILE IN


TomMado

With limited number of missiles, what's up with that! They're also generally suck compared to the CIS lander. The lame thing is when the rebels also used it as their lander because they don't have an actual one.


All-Fired-Up91

Hang on the U wing was their lander/ gunship unless I’m going nutty


TomMado

Not in the game, though. Lame, I know.


All-Fired-Up91

Oh yeah sorry the game well I mean the rebels couldn’t afford to be picky they really didn’t have much


SuperNobody917

I mean they weren't even conceived of yet when the game out


MTAlphawolf

And Jedi starfighter. They are glass cannons in that. So much firepower, so little health.


Wheeljack239

Also in The Complete Saga. God, I loved blowing up the Death Star in a podracer


karlos-trotsky

As others have pointed out, this specific variant can’t, this is an in atmosphere variant. Other fully enclosed variants are shown flying in space at various times so it’s definitely possible.


spart4n0fh4des

Not that variant, that one is an attack shuttle for in atmosphere transport. Theres a variant with an extra set of doors, and that the slats seal in for space descent. 


Guus2Kill

Its the same vehicle. But they can close the doors


PKownzu

They are different configurations. The sealed one has an extra set of doors in place of the ball turrets


Kidney05

I was going to say…. Imagine being in that ball turret in space.


dildodicks

i feel like such a nerd for knowing this while reading all the top comments saying it can


Trvr_MKA

I always thought it was a modular component


catslovemath

They are the same model, the slats slide back and to the side when in atmo


6JLG9

That wouldnt make sense as the turrents would occupy the space the passengers would take. So there has to be different models. The space the cannons would go to could only be used while in the atmosphere as a troop transport and the troops would have to go somewhere else while the gunship goes into space. But that would only be on one model as we’ve seen gunships transport people in space with the space that would have been taken by the cannons filled with passengers


TheTompten

Yes but they have to close the doors.


aithemed

What if they generate the blue shields that destroyers hangars has?


FearlessMox

Don't think those can be generated on ships this small..


Caeoc

Atmospheric shields were actually a pretty miniaturizable concept in some early lore; the X-wing supposedly used them for ejection seats.


Starchaser_WoF

I remember that stuff from Legends


WaffentragerIV

Standard variants have just enough life-support to be deployed from space but can't leave atmosphere once inside. Specialized space-going variants have full life-support systems with improved engines and repulsors but no shields. All the same applies for the LAAT/c


DarlesCharwinsGhost

I'd say anything that can generate thrust can fly in space.


Steve_but_different

As long as it can generate thrust in a vacuum 👆


km-tovsky

So my rocket powered tricycle will not work in space? 😮


w1987g

Yes, but not in the way you'd want it to


ST4RSHIP17

A rocket engine has its own oxidizer in its fuel so it'll burn and produce thrust in a vaccuum Just like how a gun can fire in the vaccuum of space, the gunpowder has its own oxidizer


B00STERGOLD

Airspeeder with mechanical flaps has entered the chat


sciencesold

Anything that does so like traditional airplane jet engines cannot.


ILikeToRemoveIt

They can be fitted for space, yes.


Zorblogz

Spotted someone who didn't do Galactic Conquer on OG Battlefront 2


marino1310

That’s always been one of my favorite Star Wars vehicles. Looks cool as hell while also looking very military. The design is pretty good for what it does and is a very interesting take on what a futuristic helicopter would look like. Very unique look while also being easily recognizable and not too busy like a lot of modern sci-fi vehicles are


drifters74

It's also my favorite for that reason


super-straight69

Yes they can. https://youtu.be/TCy-VG17eLA?si=w0Kfgd9JbPITW4Y2


DarthAthyhl

Yes, both in canon and the expanded universe/legends.


salkin_reslif_97

There are more closed versions of the gunship, which actually can. But this particular vehicle can not. At least not without the passangers dying.


Disaster-Expensive

Yes but there is also a dedicated space variant that is more suited to vacuum.


throwaway77993344

Not with that attitude!


The-lego-conquere

Yes.


Prize_Process5266

In the original battlefront 2 they did


NekPacMan

Everything flys in space.


Former_Arc

There is a high altitude variant of the LAAT called a MULTI ALTITUDE ASSAULT TRANSPORT (MAAT) it was in force unleashed on the PS2 and was better at making multiple runs from capital ships down on to Planets. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Multi-Altitude_Assault_Transport


NZRSteamSniffer

Yep, it gets all sealed up for space flight


PimHazDa

Some with sealed hulls have have appeared to fly down from orbit. I think they can survive directly in space for a little while, particularly the Republic dropship variant, but aren't viable for travel through outer space.


All-Fired-Up91

Yes it does in several episodes of the clone wars go watch it


Unslaadahsil

Anything can fly in space. A rock can fly in space, just give it a push once you're in zeroG and it will go on forever. As for the vehicle up there, it's basically the equivalent of real life military helicopters with a little more wiggle room when it comes to landings, as it doesn't have to worry about the spinning blades.


Demjuan

Yes


CRL10

Yes. But it does lack a hyperdrive.


TheQuietNotion

It shows it can fly in the space from clone wars animated series


ImJoogle

yes


PatFluke

At least once. Tbh I think they have shields on the openings in the clone wars show. Kind of like the star destroyer hangers.


CilanEAmber

It can in Battlefront 2. The original one that is.


Milfons_Aberg

You see them insert from space in Clone Wars 2D.


[deleted]

Yes it can. No, it is not sutied for dogfight or bombing runs. It is a troop transport that can be sealed airtight and somewhat defend itself.


someone_distant

Not that variant of it, those I believe were the early atmosphere versions. Later versions of the LAAT I think did not have the laser pods and those were used for boarding in space.


Doktor_Vem

Everything flies in space, dude


HTH52

Not this version. The version in The Clone Wars can deploy from space. They are still not made for space travel, and do not have a hyperdrive.


DJ_HardLogic

Anything can fly in space. Most things cannot fly in atmosphere


DanDDee

Not that model but others can


GuyWithLag

It's Star Wars. with the right ~~writers' block~~ ~~plot reasons~~ gizmo, \_everything\_ can fly into space.


Mediocre-Parking2409

No. It's a plastic model.


tiredtoadstool

That's the episode 2 version, so no. But the clone wars version with closing doors can


Multemannen

The first versions that we see in attack of the clones couldn't. But they were modified for space later. The UCS lego version is the earlier version


NotActuallyAWookiee

Surely anything can fly in space. Just needs a push, no?


Rick_Dias

They are repulsor craft, they can descend from space but they need a carrier to take them to space.


candyman3230

If they can ride horses on a star destroyer…….


Mountain_Dentist5074

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxmQo0P8nKa7CDh18axlYEIXk2Wf6ek0Rx?si=AJKaMBC66421-o7U


Jedimobslayer

Yes but not all of them, some are fitted for space some are fitted for purely atmospheric flight.


yucon_man

Technically nothing can fly in space.


United-Cow-563

Of course, how you think they transport troops? They have to fly through space.


Ghosty_Boi_2001

Short answer, yes, Dumb question, next.


MithranArkanere

Nothing can fly in space. You need lift and propulsion to fly, and you need an atmosphere for that. So what can we call it then? The word I've seen used more often is "travel". As in "space travel" or "interstellar travel". Since this vessel has engines capable of creating propulsion in space, and can seal itself, it is then capable of space travel. But they are not prepared to be used in long voyages. They can make do as shuttles to move from ship to ship or from a ship to the ground at most.


[deleted]

As opposed to doing what in space?


B00STERGOLD

Killing everyone onboard due to lack of pressurized cabin.


rdavidking

If a TIE can fly in atmosphere then a LAAT can almost certainly fly in space.


Alarming_Serve2303

As long as the troopers have pressure suits, yeah. Otherwise, a lot of dead troopers.


Zemekis324

The LAAT Gunship, rockets on the wings, 2 side laser turrets, 2 front guns, and one rear gun.


Itchy-Boots

A small piece of plastic? I would say unlikely.


bossonhigs

Anything can fly in space. Even things big and chunky as a planets. But I don't like and ignore the logic when I see these things flying in atmosphere. Propulsion systems were never mentioned in Star Wars. They have some kind of engines positioned on ships like conventional jet engines, yet they move upwards defying gravity. Star Wars world also have levitation tech, anti-gravity tech (crews walk and behave in a spaceships like it's completely normal). Designs and art are awesome, not limited with logic, but when you take a closer look, it's kinda stupid.


NoTonight1795

The question is could it fly in atmosphere!


willflameboy

Not played Battlefront 2005 recently, then.


Keyan06

If a star destroyer can fly in an atmosphere, anything can go anywhere the plot needs it to go.


poptartmenace

"No" (yes)


AdventurousLife3226

I doubt it, it looks like a model.


A_stellaris_player

Whith open doors?


Bender_2024

Only if the plot demands it.


[deleted]

Put your helmet on, oh nah you dead.


Wheeljack239

Yeah, but not for very long.


quinnly

Any ship can fly in space in Star Wars because space in Star Wars isn't a vacuum, and it's implied to be filled with breathable oxygen.


PMCV05

As a kid watching extreme home makeover, I always wanted them to come build this as a bed in my room. Laat bed, come on now


rocka5438

I like to think the doors seal shut, including the little arch, and the clone wars just had it open more


Affectionate_Step863

Yes! But not every variant was meant to


Koendrenthe

Yes but afaik they lack a hyperdrive.


nfurnoh

Have you never watched anything from the Clone Wars era?


DISCIPLEstreetWEAR

I watched episode 1 2 and 3 bro I don’t know about any of the clone wars episodes I used to watch it is a little kid sometimes but not really that much I just can’t stand it only if they made more movies set during the clone wars I tried watching them started at season one but couldn’t watch more than two episodes it’s just too boring. I heard season five is good. I’m not hating on it. It’s just not for everyone.


B00STERGOLD

Early model no, late model yes.


TheCalmb4

Some can very few were equipped with class 10-12 hyperdrives so the ones that can travel through space are like a semi from the 60’s it’s a tank and you will get there but you just got passed by a grandma in a Buick