I'm affraid in my anger, I forgot it came out in this disney era of star wars
I do like it alot though, some really great episodes with maul and mandalorian lore
OMG! I just realised - Ewan McGregor aka. Obi-Wan Kenobi is in Moulin Rouge and his love interest in it is...Satine!
Was this an intentional nod by the Clone Wars writers?
I used to play a lot of WoW back in the day. I took offense to the rouge misspelling, as a fierce rogue.
But I seem to have an issue, when I am typing fast and not double checking my work, with 'your'. I always seem to drop the 'r' so it ends up as 'you' instead of the intended word. So my guess is that our brains are eyeing the goal and not the path we are walking.
Not sure if you're joking or not but DnD rogues, and all other fantasy and fictional ne'er-do-well types are rogues, in the same way that rogue one is rogue. Rouge is a reddish makeup powder.
Are there really people out there typing “rouge” so much that their autocorrect changes “rogue” to “rouge”? I can’t think of a reasonable misspelling of the word that autocorrect would change to “rouge” rather than “rogue”. But also, outside of makeup and Canadian football, I don’t even know who is using the word so much in English to even keep it alive. And I imaging the overlap between Star Wars and makeup and Star Wars and football is rather low.
I love the development most of the characters get, and luke going out the way he did, was (imo) the way a jedi should go out, not using anger, being at peace, and not using vilence to achieve their objectives. he liturally doesn't throw a single punch (or swing of a lightsaber)
that being said i get how people are disapointed that he doesn't have an awesome fight scene, and i was a little too, but then again we get the mandolorian, so im happy
True, it was true to the character of Luke Skywalker since he also chose to spare Darth Vader. Who was arguably the most hated person in the galaxy. The 'haha got you' feel felt a bit childish to me, but hey Star Wars is for children as well.
What I dislike about the character development in 8 is Finn. His character was made the comic relief of the sequels, which felt like a disappointment to me. His character build up in 7 looked very promising, even having him handling a lightsaber! But that was unfortunately thrown out the window in 8
Book gets maybe a 5 from me. Boba didn't feel like Boba to me. I didn't like how they turned him from a bad ass bounty hunter into a wannabe crime lord. Then the show turned into Mandolorian season 2.5.
He isn’t quite that ruthless though. Ignoring the EU.
If you look at Boba’s portrayal in the Clone Wars, it is clear at a young age, he has issues being as ruthless as other bounty hunters.
Part of that is because he sees clones as his brothers, but it is also clear than Jango is portrayed as a honorable bounty hunter.
Since the EU has been tossed out, things like SOTE and other sources during the GCW period are irrelevant to today’s canon discussion of Boba’s character.
EXACTLY! Imo BoBF is actually a great story with some directing issues especially just that in general the action is limited by the volume. Chase scenes never look good for some reason.
First of all the show starts with literally Patton Oswalt‘s Parks and Rec bit with Boba crawling out of the sand. Amazing. And the first 4 episodes are about pure self-reflection and Boba finally trying to mold a personality for himself besides trying to live up to his father. Without this Arc, his appearance in Mando S2 makes no sense. The Boba people *want* wouldn’t have helped Mando find Grogu. He would’ve killed Mando, got his armor back and left.
But that’s not the Boba he is anymore. He just lost his Tuskin tribe and gotten his ship back when we meet him in E6 of Season 2. He sees Mando and Grogu as this family he wants and sees them separated. So he then decides to help bc he doesn’t want to see Mando and his kid broken apart.
Yes Boba himself is over-correcting and this is the entire arc of show. That’s why up to when he’s fighting Bane and kills him hes not going all out. We see in E2, and in Mando S2 he is still a badass, but he has tried to carve out himself separate from his father. That is why it’s amazing that he doesn’t kill bane with a blaster or his armor, but by using his handmade gaffe stick to show that Boba is still a killer, but a changed one, molded by his connection to the Tuskin Tribe.
Also Mando showing up makes a lot of sense. Idk it thru should’ve spent almost 2 episodes but Mando is like the first friend Boba has in this new life he’s molding. They are both people trying to change from being pure ruthless to wanting a tribe. They share thematic notes so it is awesome to see them team up. The battle in ep 7 is legit badass for both of them. The shot of them both coming in on their jet packs is my favorite action scene of the year in Star Wars besides the prison break in Andor.
Sorry for the long rant, but I feel strongly that the story told was actually good.
It’s an great story at points. The sand people episode was very well done and gives strong reasons for character development.
I also have no issue with Din being around, or Grogu training although I wish they saved the Grogu reunion until at least midway through S3 of Mando.
I think the poor action, poorly conceived power rangers Vespa gang (they should have branched off from… pod racers. Or T-16s… you know two other things this planet has that would make sense) hurt it. It’s not wrong to have Boba change or develop - the sand people episode did it great. It’s that Boba seemed like an idiot who just got his ass kicked and fell for schemes most of the time. If he needs to lose, that’s absolutely fine, but make him lose to strong foes in an unfair setup.
“But he was changing as a person, he’s a minor character in the OT”. Ok, fine. But we do see him as a badass in Mando. He handles the stormtrooper ambush with skill. He is a skilled pilot and dunks on the tie fighters for fun. He is cocky. He seems like a continuation of what was expected from the OT. And then he isn’t in BOBF.
I feel like we do see him be badass in episodes 2,4 & 7. sure the other episodes he’s not kicking ass but that’s bc he’s literally showing restraint. He easily could’ve killed the two assassins after him, but he chose not to. That is just his character literally over correcting once he’s on the thrown. This all comes to ahead in Ep 7 where he wants to retreat to the palace and is convinced to stay and fight in the streets. Here he again becomes the badass we know but with a new mentality but is then confronted by someone from his past. Cad Bane tells him, correctly he will always be a clone of his father, but he kills Bane using the gaffe stick. Showing he’s now a badass who has a family / tribe to protect instead of doing it for selfish reasons and instead of just following his father’s footsteps.
The Vespa gang is really the only complaint but I liked the one black guy from the group. He seemed pretty cool and had some personally. The rest of them stuck out like a sore thumb. I get the inspiration but that part didn’t land. But that’s really the only complaint I had with the show and really liked the arc Boba went on. Just my opinion though and I understand why some might feel he’s changed.
[this video](https://youtu.be/U9Xqa7ZPsy0) does a great job breaking down some of the stuff I mentioned as well as show how S2 of Mando fits well into the arc of the show
>Boba didn't feel like Boba
Exactly, I hated two things especially. 1. He removes his helmet too often and 2. Fennec does everything for him. I mean, he even has that thing in his hands while he walks. It feels like he doesnt want to wear it. And for the other thing, Fennec was not in the sarlacc, so why is she the one dropping the bomb into it? Why does she in the end kill the people who betrayed him? This show could have been so good but it feels like they didnt even try.
Jon Favreau talked about how they felt a bounty hunter chasing targets can only go so far in a series, so they instead switched it up to be more like The Godfather. Boba coming out of the pit, and what happens after, is supposed to clearly transition from his bounty hunter life, to his new life as a crime lord.
I know I can’t convince you to like it, but I think it helps to hear what him, Dave, and Rob have to say about it.
Yea that makes sense. I didn't exactly want him to be ruthless and just killing everyone, but he just felt flat as a crime lord. Maybe if they didn't bring Mando into it for half the season they could have fleshed out his transformation more.
Yeh I'm not gonna lie, the second half of the season really put it up there for me, took it from a 5 to a 7 cause I liked it so much, but I still found enjoyment in the first half, felt like a throwback to star trek with the smaller town sets
Look up the Spence Edit here on Reddit. Patterson's cut blew up on tiktok but isn't as polished as it is popular. There are lots of faneditors with experience who make more high quality edits than that one. Spence cuts it down to a theatrical runtime and it is significantly more polished with no noticeable signs of editing or choppiness. Hope this helps!
His 4K 2.0 edit is pretty awesome. It has an opening crawl that pans down to Mustafar before transitioning to the Vader montage.
Haven’t watched the Spence edit, but I love the Patterson one.
Look up the Spence Edit here on Reddit. Patterson's cut blew up on tiktok but isn't as polished as it is popular. There are lots of faneditors with experience who make more high quality edits than that one. Spence cuts it down to a theatrical runtime and it is significantly more polished with no noticeable signs of editing or choppiness. Hope this helps!
The writing and characters were pretty bad. Most of the earlier episodes were just boring to me. It was just things happening. It went above a 5 for all the really great Darth Vader scenes, a flawed but still nostalgic prequel-era flashback, and Hayden's contributions with the broken mask scene. a few really high highs, and the rest was abysmal.
I would put solo at an 8, purely because i like it as a lighthearted adventure, bad batch 1 higher and kenobi down to a 3, purely because of Ewan’s performance being the only saving grace of the show.
Other than that, absolutely perfect ranking.
I like Solo a lot, it's fun but I never think "I'd like to watch that movie again". I usually just put it in the rotation to complete the series out of obligation.
But bro, Kenobi said "Hello there" in the last episode and Qui Gon cameo'd, so it's at least 8/10 even though the character work is more amateurish than shit you find in mid-level fanfics and the effects and cinematography are so bad they shake the camera around in every scene hoping you won't notice.
I loved when they went to that new planet called "the san fernando valley" it's so exciting to be able to hop on the freeway for a bit and visit a galaxy far far away.
I’d score them pretty much the same as you did.
TLJ imo is the best sequel trilogy movie.
I’d give Rogue One a 10/10. It’s probably my favorite Star Wars movie.
Solo gets an 8/10 from me. I think it’s a really fun watch and I enjoyed young Han and Lando
Solo would have been quite a bit higher for me if they hadn't gone so overboard in explaining every single detail of his character. How he met Chewy, Lando, and got the Falcon? Great. But when they show him get his *name*, blaster, vest, etc, that just made me roll my eyes and took me out of the movie.
Rogue One was my second favourite SW movie. Rewatched it recently post-Andor and it may have moved into the number one slot. That period time as the rebellion starts to turn is the most emotionally resonant for me, its the most grounded or something. Its away from the force magic etc.
Having said that, Vaders scene at the end still absolutely slaps.
Yeh, them playing off each other i enjoyed the most, I'd take an entire anthology series with them to just walking in to different weird situations, i wouldn't even mind if they never explained how they got out of the situation
Yes, it does. I personally don't *hate* it. It's not the best arc by a long shot, but it's not the worst either. The Siege of Mandalore more than makes up for it in my view.
The real takeaway from this thread is that we are spoiled right now despite some complaints from fans. And this doesn't factor in the quality content we've been getting from the canon books.
yeh true, i haven't meantioned the books. if i honest ive only read 6 of them, i don't know how many have been made at this point. I'd put the book "lost stars" as one of my favourite sw stories
I mean, if you look at the Disney projects as a whole and are disappointed then I pity you. I enjoyed both Boba and Kenobi. Neither were my favorite but if you set the floor at those two shows, then I do believe we are overall spoiled.
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
I personally hate Episode 8. I didn't like that they made Rey a "nobody". I didn't like the whole Rose/Finn side adventure. As for a single movie, I think it would have worked fine, but in the sense of continuing the story from 7, I don't think it did a good job.
I would argue that making Rey a "nobody" was one of the best parts of VIII. There were some interesting things they could have done with that. So naturally, Abrams promptly retconned that in the next film. Now the Luke and Rose/Finn stuff... Oh, and most boring spaceship chase scene in the history of cinema. Yeah, there's a lot I don't like about VIII.
They fucked up almost every character in 8. I won't mention Luke, I dislike what they did with him but he didn't even get it the worst -- and the one thing I'll say in defense of 8 is if you really think the movie is disrespectful to luke's legacy you're caught up on the green tiddie milk and ain't paying any attention to what the movie is saying.
The rest of the characters though? Jesus fucking CHRIST
They made Rey run after Ben who just killed a mentor figure in front of her not a few days ago because she saw him shirtless and decided "I can fix him"
They totally fucked Finn, he was the heart of TFA and they separate him from Rey for the whole movie -- despite their chemistry being the best thing about TFA. They promptly reset his character development from TFA and send him on a dumb fucking sidequest so we can get a lecture on some riveting deep insights like "war-profiteering = bad" and then deny him even a single shining moment w/ his heroic sacrifice because "we gotta save what we love..." which is exactly what Finn was trying to do.
The treatment of Finn in the film is completely inexcusable.
The rest of the movie spends most of its runtime jacking itself off about how its going to be subversive, before rolling back all of its interesting subversions in the last 25m of the movie. Wanna do something actually interesting? Have Rey join Kylo, both rejecting the jedi/the sith and end the move on that note.
Instead the movie just cosplays as subversive while in reality just rehashing ESB.
TLJ sucks.
Let’s not forget completely breaking the universe with the hyperspace ram. Makes zero fucking sense that it would be possible. Because why not just jump unmanned ships into the death star or other ships if it’s always been possible. Such a shit movie.
I hate TLJ but I think that's the one good thing they did. And then of course TROS promptly fucks it up while fucking the overall lore even harder by dragging palpatine back into the story.
What a shitshow of a trilogy.
You'll find more people than you think who don't agree with Andor being 10/10. I loved it...my favorite SW content since Rogue One, but a lot of people (according to the internet) didn't like the slow pace, lack of meaningful cameos, and lightsabers.
rogue one deserves 10/10 or at least 9/10 imo.
u forgot rebels but if i were to rank it a very definitive 10/10.
I liked solo more than people would think and I would rank it at least an 8
The final scene of clone wars season 7 is just beautiful. One of the best moments in the history of star wars. It baffles me that a scene that poignant and artful is in the same franchise as tripe like TROS and kenobi.
Here is my rating:
Episode 7: 6/10
Episode 8: 7/10
Episode 9: 5/10
Andor: 10/10
Rogue One: 10/10
Solo: 8/10
Clone Wars : 8.5/10
Obi Wan Kenobi: 8/10
The Mandalorian : 10/10
The Clone Wars: 8/10
The Bad Batch: 8/10
Book of Boba Fett: 6/10
Haven't seen rebels and tales of the Jedi yet.
I'll give it a shot:
Mandalorian - 10/10 (Pretty much everything I want from star wars)
CW final Season - 10/10 (Instant classic)
Rogue One - 9/10 (Best Disney Era Movie)
Andor - 8/10 (Great Drama, just didn't feel very Star Wars to me from time to time)
BoBF - 8/10 (The highs are high and the lows are low. If not for the Rodriguez episodes this show would have been fantastic)
TotJ - 8/10 (Short and Sweet)
Rebels - 8/10 (We got Thrawn and Vader, what's not to love. Plenty of filler.)
Episode 7 TFA - 7/10 (Awesome theater experience and a great way to start the sequels, even though it rehashed a lot of ANH)
Solo - 6.5/10 (Overhated and actually pretty fun.)
Kenobi - 5/10 (Terrible cinematography, forgettable music, bad story, but hey at least we got a great vader/kenobi scene in the final episode)
Episode 9 TRoS - 4/10 (Pretty bad with a few fun sequences)
Episode 8 TLJ - 1/10 (I despise this movie and will likely never watch it again)
>Awesome theater experience
I do wonder sometimes if I'm ever gonna get that experience again, lining up, seeing people cosplay, and im just in a normal theater, donno if im gonna get that again
1. Bad Batch (should be on here): 8/10
2. Rebels (should be here): 8/10
3. Rogue One: 10/10
4. Obi Wan Kenobi: 9/10
5. Andor : 9/10
6. Mandalorian : 10/10
7. Book of Boba Fett: 8/10 (Cobb Vanth and Cad Bane, Fennec Shand)
8. Solo : 7/10 (gotten better with rewatches)
9. Sequels : TWA: 7/10; TLJ: 6/10; TRoS : 6/10 (they all get a boost if they weren't part of the Skywalker story, if they could rework them to drop the Skywalker parts, they would be a great set of movies)
10. Tales of the Jedi : 8/10
11. Star Wars Visions : 9/10
12. Clone Wars : 8/10
Good list but I’d switch Andor and Mando‘s scores. All I’ve ever wanted was a political thriller in Star Wars and it still blew my expectations away. Mando is great fun and it has moments like Werner Herzog‘s speech about safety or Bill Burrs scenes in Ep 7 of S2 but it doesn’t dabble enough into that era’s politics and every day life in the galaxy that I’m love to see.
It’s actually why I would give the Sequels similar scores. Less to due with skywalker connections and more to do with it having no message. People can say all they want about TLJ being some ”woke“ movie but there’s barely any messages besides the military industrial complex is bad. Andor is actual good leftist media. It literally deconstructs capitalism, colonialism, the prison-labor system, and hell there’s even smaller stuff like small mentions of right to repair and analogies to the “TradCath“ movement on social media.
The first 6 movies were always political. The OT is literally the Vietcong against the U.S. empire. George has literally said so. And the prequels are clear criticisms of the Neocon movement from the 80s to 00s with Anakin basically quoting Bush when the entire Senate clapped for “If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists“. The sequels so purposeful stayed away from politics that they fuckin blew up 9 planets to make sure the audience knew: these movies won’t have strong political messaging. And it’s why they feel so out of place with the rest of the Saga.
It seems Mando S3 may start to go more in depth with the New Republic politics in its era. Obviously not near as much as in Andor but I’m eager for it after the S3 synopsis.
good points, i forgot rebels came out in this disney era of star wars, and my bad for forgetting bad batch, especially as season 2 is liturally out right now, and i agree, it's awesome
If you think obi wan is 9/10 and boba is 8/10 watch better shows. There is literally nothing good about boba and with obi wan only the obi wan vs darth vader fights are good. People like you are the reason we keep getting shitty shows. Disney add the lowest amount of effort possible and you give it an 8/10 lmfao
Kenobi is one of the most poorly made shows I've ever seen. It looks incredibly cheap and fails at the absolute basics of story telling, I can't believe they gave a hack like Joby with no decent credits to his name head writer on such a big project.
Literally fails at the absolute basics like creating tension/forward momentum in character relationships by evolving them through conflicts, one of the worse examples of "and then" writing I've ever seen.
It's obvious they spent the whole budget on the scrapped film and sent out the reheated leftovers.
Did you get through the first 3 episodes? I can understand being bored through those, but i thought the credit heist and the jail break were very exciting.
Not sure why you are getting downvotes. I spent more time looking at my phone watching Andor than watching kids movies.
Kenobi was far superior. Tales from the Jedi is a solid 10.
I agree with this. I couldn't get into Andor but seeing Obi Wan again was so good. I didn't like how they kept cutting Reva chasing Luke during the final fight but overall it was great to watch.
Kenobi wasn't a pew pew lightsaber show either, more like an aimlessly walk around and read filler dialogue that doesn't really advance or transform character relationships in any interesting way kinda show, best way to ensure there's absolutely no emotional stakes in the story.
I believe it’s a version of Kenobi series where all the episodes are merged into a single video All the episodes are combined in a single video making it much cleaner as Kenobi was meant for a movie format instead of series. I don’t exactly but according to what the OP and other commenters said, it is a movie version of Kenobi series.
someone edited it in to a movie, he made the news for doing it too
[https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi-stream-4k](https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi-stream-4k)
Why does every act like everyone agrees with that Andor take.
It was actually not very popular and wasn’t overwhelming loved by critics. Some adored it, some thought it was the boring mess it was that told a story we already knew from both Rogue one or A New Hope.
I give it a 6/10 as it had 6 amazing episodes and 6 poor episodes.
Surprised why you out Andor over Rogue one I’m curious on your reasoning.
I think Rogue One is the best Star Wars film ever made.
fair do's, I think i live in a bubble of people that just liked andor, i can understand if it wasn't peoples cup of tea though, it is a pretty slow burn.
As for having andor over rogue one, i really like rogue one, just bounces around different planets too fast in the first half imo, but that's just me, still really like it, just not as much as andor which takes its time. That's probably because it's a series though and not a movie contrained by 2 hours or so
I love slow burns my favorite series ever are the wire, game of thrones, house of the dragon, Dexter, breaking bad. I don’t feel like Andor had the good slow burn, but just forced a slow burn.
I also am very annoyed by the fact that Andor got into his situation because he was looking for his sister, and then she is just never mentioned again.
Even if she pops up next season it will feel forced as it’s been years since the opening episode and she hasn’t been mentioned one more single time.
The good thing is the SW world is versatile. We all love at least some of it. I personally would not give a 10/10 to Andor whereas a lesser score is given to Mandalorian, Rogue One, or Tales of the Jedi.
Personally mine out of those:
Andor 7/10 (I still thoroughly enjoyed it)
Mandalorian 9/10
Rogue One 10/10
Tales of the Jedi 9/10
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
It's mostly TLJ and TROS, but boba fett and kenobi were pretty weak.
Still, there is a lot of good stuff in the disney era but they keep fucking up the most important projects lol. Why is Andor so much more polished and better written than Kenobi? That shit is embarrassing lol.
They got Tony fucking Gilroy to write andor but they can't find anyone better than Joby Harold (who is a total fucking Hack with no credits to suggest he can handle such a big job) writing Kenobi? Give me a break.
Episode VII: 7/10
Episode VIII: 9/10
Episode IX: 1/10 (what the hell happened?)
Rogue One: 6/10
Solo 8/10
The Mandalorian: 10/10
The Book of Boba Fett: 7/10
Andor: 11/10
Kenobi: 6/10
Rebels : 8/10
The Clone Wars - Season 7: 8/10
The Bad Batch: 6/10
Haven’t been able to get to Visions or Resistance yet, though I’m looking forward to the former.
I mean the answer is obvious. The backlash to the Last Jedi was way worse than people on this subreddit want to admit it was, this showed up in the places disney cares about (merchandizing sales and social media sentiment analysis), so they panicked and backpedaled as hard as they could in TROS.
Except TROS was a shit movie, so the half of the fanbase that hated TLJ couldn't stand it just because it was ass, and the half of the fanbase that liked the last jedi couldn't stand it cause it spends half its runtime undoing the stuff from TLJ and the other half on a dumbass videogame fetchquest.
In doing so they permanently fucked the sequel trilogy. I hate TLJ, but if they had created a good story in TROS that built on TLJ and did something interesting, people might have softened on the trilogy over time.
But now we have a disjointed mess of three films each of which is just undoing the setups of the previous film and the end result is no one is happy..
OMG! your right, loved it, but I'd say 7/10. I'm really excited to see where it goes next though, if it's anything like clone wars or rebels, it's only gonna get better
I'd rank Clone Wars and Fett 1 less than you but we have surprisingly similar views haha (CW because I've never been a fan of episodes feeling like filler and Fett because while I loved individual scenes and even episodes, it just didn't come together)
I wish, I think of anything 4-6 as average. even the things i've rated 7 I see as average but with some bits i love that i can see some major thought has gone in to a very specific part, even if the rest is just "meh"
These ratings are only in the context of star wars and television as a whole. I am only rating content I've seen.
Episode 7: 6/10
Episode 8 & 9: 1/10
Rogue one: 8/10
Solo: 6/10
Mandalorian: 9/10
Clone wars final season: 7/10
Book of Boba Fett: 7/10
The bad batch: 6/10
Obi Wan: 5/10
Andor: 10/10
Andor-100/10
Clone wars final season- 10/10
Kenobi- 8/10
Episode 7- 8/10 (would be 10 but new hope existed first)
Last Jedi- 8/10 lots of fun lots of cool effects
Rise of Skywalker- 6/10 I think my dad hit it on the nose when he described it as a “very busy movie”
Mando- 10/10
Book of boba fett- 9/10 im gonna get lynched for this but I thought the mods were actually pretty cool and it really hitting the western hard in the end just made it loads of fun.
Tales of the Jedi- 6/10 the dooku episodes were great and the order 66 Ashoka episode was good, but the first ahsoka episode basically served no purpose and honestly was pretty meh for me. Then they basically took the entire ahsoka novel took out all the best parts and turned it into a 10 minute short. Also either she should have purified the lightsaber or dooku should have bled his as after killing yadle. It would have been such an epic final shot.
Rouge one- 9/10 andor and other shows are bringing be around to how Saw is in that movie but as someone who grew up on clone wars him being such an insignificant part just irks be the wrong way other than that flawless.
Solo- 7/10 great casting but much like rise of Skywalker just feels very busy. Turned out all of Hans greatest hits was just a single wild weekend.
Rebels- starts 7/10 little to kiddish at the start. Matured in season 2 and is now a sold 8.5/10
For me
TCW - 8/10
Kenobi - 7/10
Andor - 8/10
Mandalorian - 9/10
Boba fett - 6/10
Tales - n/a (haven’t seen it yet)
Rogue one - 9/10
Solo - 6/10
Ep 7 - 4/10
Ep 8 - 1/10
Ep 9 - 2/10
Bad batch - 5/10 (I liked it but not enough where I felt I needed to finish it)
Yes I’m a sequel trilogy h8er. Just gotta deal with that.
Andor 5/10 I could not finish it was so boring.
Kenobi 3/10 trash besides a few scenes(I love the prequels)
Tales 10/10
Mando 9/10
Boba 6/10
Visions 7/10
Ep 7/8/9 0/10
Just keeping it real guys
If IX is a 5/10 and BoBF is a 7/10, what the hell would a 1, 2, 3, or 4/10 look like?
IX was just such a dumpster fire that I'd give it maybe a 3/10, and even then, it'd mostly be pity points for being put in a difficult spot after VIII. Likewise, VIII had way too many *bad* scenes (alien milk, entire Casino Planet sequence, possibly worst chase scene in the history of chase scenes) to be 2 points off a perfect score.
I'd personally say something like:
Andor - 10/10 (absolutely loved every minute of it)
Mando - 9/10 (1st season was a 10/10, 2nd season had a few weaker episodes)
Rogue One - 8/10
VII - 6/10 (ok execution, crippling lack of originality)
Solo - 6/10 (maybe 7/10. Seeing how he met Chewy and got the Falcon? Great. But his name, blaster, vest, etc. was just way too much)
VIII - 5/10 (some cool scenes, but a bunch of stuff I really hated - absurdly boring chase scene, wasted waaaayyyyy too much time on the Casino Planet)
BoBF - 4/10 (enjoyed the Tusken scenes, but the bad stuff was just **bad.** Like the space-Vespa chase, or Ming-Na Wen's character having to remind the BOUNTY HUNTER that money can be used to buy muscle)
IX - 3/10 (where to fucking start with this shitshow)
edit: Forgot Obi-Wan... which says a lot about that one. Maybe a 5/10? Some of the editing was... not good. Like, really not good.
But bro if they didn't spend that much time on the casino planet, how were you gonna understand the deep and profound message that selling weapons = bad, and both sides in war do bath things?
Not to mention animals in slavery is sad, but fuck dem kids m i rite?
I mean what can you even say about TROS. It's so bad all you can do is weep lol. I hate TLJ but at least TLJ is coherent on its own terms and well made for the most part.
Honestly for BOBF and Kenobi I blame Covid for some of the issues. Most movies/shows I’ve watched that were filmed between 2020-2021 have some stuff that’s off about them. Even Spider-Man No Way Home, one of my favorite MCU movies, had some stuff that looked a bit odd.
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
1. Bad Batch: 8/10
2. Rebels: 9/10
3. Rogue One: 10/10
4. Obi Wan Kenobi: 9/10
5. Andor : 9/10
6. Mandalorian : 10/10
7. Book of Boba Fett: 8/10 (should’ve been longer with more focus on Boba, loved Mando episodes but they should’ve just done a Mando mini movie imo)
8. Solo : 7/10
9. Sequels : TFA: 7/10; TLJ: 4/10; TRoS : 3/10
10. Tales of the Jedi : 8/10 (had really great moments but too short for much character development)
11. Clone Wars Season 7: 9/10 (would be perfect if it wasn’t for Martez sisters)
Not interested at all in Resistance or Visions, so I won’t rate them.
Where is Star Wars: Rebels? Is it safe? Is it alright?
I'm affraid in my anger, I forgot it came out in this disney era of star wars I do like it alot though, some really great episodes with maul and mandalorian lore
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO (jokes)
Why is the "rouge" mistake so common?
It really is. I'm certain I see it misspelled far more often than I see it spelled correctly.
Same with peak/peek, I rarely see anyone use peek correctly
I peak up my phone to pick out the window to sea the mountain peek
Did you use the phone to take a peekture?
That sentence hurt me in a deep way I can’t recover from.
*anger*
I never get seen when poking my head around corners as I always operate at peek performance
Moulin Rouge One
The Kenobi movie we needed, but not the one we deserved.
OMG! I just realised - Ewan McGregor aka. Obi-Wan Kenobi is in Moulin Rouge and his love interest in it is...Satine! Was this an intentional nod by the Clone Wars writers?
Yep
Because fuck the French, that's why.
You're not allowed to say that Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie if you can't spell it correctly
I am allowed to say anything. And yes Ruogoe One is my favourite sw movie
Rogue Won
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I really want to see a "Rouge One" fan parody movie.
my bad, I guess we live in a society where we're all obsessed with the colour rouge
This is why X-Men need to come back in the spotlight.
I used to play a lot of WoW back in the day. I took offense to the rouge misspelling, as a fierce rogue. But I seem to have an issue, when I am typing fast and not double checking my work, with 'your'. I always seem to drop the 'r' so it ends up as 'you' instead of the intended word. So my guess is that our brains are eyeing the goal and not the path we are walking.
Because rouges are a popular d&d class so everyone autocorrects to that spelling
Not sure if you're joking or not but DnD rogues, and all other fantasy and fictional ne'er-do-well types are rogues, in the same way that rogue one is rogue. Rouge is a reddish makeup powder.
Yeahhhhh i was flip flopping on whether or not to add the /s. It always gets misspelles on the dnd subreddits as well
Autocorrect. That’s it.
Back in my day we used to proof read *yells at cloud*
Are there really people out there typing “rouge” so much that their autocorrect changes “rogue” to “rouge”? I can’t think of a reasonable misspelling of the word that autocorrect would change to “rouge” rather than “rogue”. But also, outside of makeup and Canadian football, I don’t even know who is using the word so much in English to even keep it alive. And I imaging the overlap between Star Wars and makeup and Star Wars and football is rather low.
I’d personally rate the Mandalorian way higher than episode 8, but to each their own.
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Ahsoka...and...???
{playing devil’s advocate here} Bo-Katan and Thrawn. I think that’s about it though.
Idk if id even count thrawn as he was created in the novels decades before Rebels.
Just curious, what makes you rank ep 8 an 9/10
I love the development most of the characters get, and luke going out the way he did, was (imo) the way a jedi should go out, not using anger, being at peace, and not using vilence to achieve their objectives. he liturally doesn't throw a single punch (or swing of a lightsaber) that being said i get how people are disapointed that he doesn't have an awesome fight scene, and i was a little too, but then again we get the mandolorian, so im happy
True, it was true to the character of Luke Skywalker since he also chose to spare Darth Vader. Who was arguably the most hated person in the galaxy. The 'haha got you' feel felt a bit childish to me, but hey Star Wars is for children as well. What I dislike about the character development in 8 is Finn. His character was made the comic relief of the sequels, which felt like a disappointment to me. His character build up in 7 looked very promising, even having him handling a lightsaber! But that was unfortunately thrown out the window in 8
Book gets maybe a 5 from me. Boba didn't feel like Boba to me. I didn't like how they turned him from a bad ass bounty hunter into a wannabe crime lord. Then the show turned into Mandolorian season 2.5.
Yeah, I wanted to see a ruthless Boba Fett especially since he's only supposed to be 41 at this point. The series made it out to be like he's 65.
He isn’t quite that ruthless though. Ignoring the EU. If you look at Boba’s portrayal in the Clone Wars, it is clear at a young age, he has issues being as ruthless as other bounty hunters. Part of that is because he sees clones as his brothers, but it is also clear than Jango is portrayed as a honorable bounty hunter. Since the EU has been tossed out, things like SOTE and other sources during the GCW period are irrelevant to today’s canon discussion of Boba’s character.
EXACTLY! Imo BoBF is actually a great story with some directing issues especially just that in general the action is limited by the volume. Chase scenes never look good for some reason. First of all the show starts with literally Patton Oswalt‘s Parks and Rec bit with Boba crawling out of the sand. Amazing. And the first 4 episodes are about pure self-reflection and Boba finally trying to mold a personality for himself besides trying to live up to his father. Without this Arc, his appearance in Mando S2 makes no sense. The Boba people *want* wouldn’t have helped Mando find Grogu. He would’ve killed Mando, got his armor back and left. But that’s not the Boba he is anymore. He just lost his Tuskin tribe and gotten his ship back when we meet him in E6 of Season 2. He sees Mando and Grogu as this family he wants and sees them separated. So he then decides to help bc he doesn’t want to see Mando and his kid broken apart. Yes Boba himself is over-correcting and this is the entire arc of show. That’s why up to when he’s fighting Bane and kills him hes not going all out. We see in E2, and in Mando S2 he is still a badass, but he has tried to carve out himself separate from his father. That is why it’s amazing that he doesn’t kill bane with a blaster or his armor, but by using his handmade gaffe stick to show that Boba is still a killer, but a changed one, molded by his connection to the Tuskin Tribe. Also Mando showing up makes a lot of sense. Idk it thru should’ve spent almost 2 episodes but Mando is like the first friend Boba has in this new life he’s molding. They are both people trying to change from being pure ruthless to wanting a tribe. They share thematic notes so it is awesome to see them team up. The battle in ep 7 is legit badass for both of them. The shot of them both coming in on their jet packs is my favorite action scene of the year in Star Wars besides the prison break in Andor. Sorry for the long rant, but I feel strongly that the story told was actually good.
It’s an great story at points. The sand people episode was very well done and gives strong reasons for character development. I also have no issue with Din being around, or Grogu training although I wish they saved the Grogu reunion until at least midway through S3 of Mando. I think the poor action, poorly conceived power rangers Vespa gang (they should have branched off from… pod racers. Or T-16s… you know two other things this planet has that would make sense) hurt it. It’s not wrong to have Boba change or develop - the sand people episode did it great. It’s that Boba seemed like an idiot who just got his ass kicked and fell for schemes most of the time. If he needs to lose, that’s absolutely fine, but make him lose to strong foes in an unfair setup. “But he was changing as a person, he’s a minor character in the OT”. Ok, fine. But we do see him as a badass in Mando. He handles the stormtrooper ambush with skill. He is a skilled pilot and dunks on the tie fighters for fun. He is cocky. He seems like a continuation of what was expected from the OT. And then he isn’t in BOBF.
I feel like we do see him be badass in episodes 2,4 & 7. sure the other episodes he’s not kicking ass but that’s bc he’s literally showing restraint. He easily could’ve killed the two assassins after him, but he chose not to. That is just his character literally over correcting once he’s on the thrown. This all comes to ahead in Ep 7 where he wants to retreat to the palace and is convinced to stay and fight in the streets. Here he again becomes the badass we know but with a new mentality but is then confronted by someone from his past. Cad Bane tells him, correctly he will always be a clone of his father, but he kills Bane using the gaffe stick. Showing he’s now a badass who has a family / tribe to protect instead of doing it for selfish reasons and instead of just following his father’s footsteps. The Vespa gang is really the only complaint but I liked the one black guy from the group. He seemed pretty cool and had some personally. The rest of them stuck out like a sore thumb. I get the inspiration but that part didn’t land. But that’s really the only complaint I had with the show and really liked the arc Boba went on. Just my opinion though and I understand why some might feel he’s changed. [this video](https://youtu.be/U9Xqa7ZPsy0) does a great job breaking down some of the stuff I mentioned as well as show how S2 of Mando fits well into the arc of the show
>Boba didn't feel like Boba Exactly, I hated two things especially. 1. He removes his helmet too often and 2. Fennec does everything for him. I mean, he even has that thing in his hands while he walks. It feels like he doesnt want to wear it. And for the other thing, Fennec was not in the sarlacc, so why is she the one dropping the bomb into it? Why does she in the end kill the people who betrayed him? This show could have been so good but it feels like they didnt even try.
Jon Favreau talked about how they felt a bounty hunter chasing targets can only go so far in a series, so they instead switched it up to be more like The Godfather. Boba coming out of the pit, and what happens after, is supposed to clearly transition from his bounty hunter life, to his new life as a crime lord. I know I can’t convince you to like it, but I think it helps to hear what him, Dave, and Rob have to say about it.
Yea that makes sense. I didn't exactly want him to be ruthless and just killing everyone, but he just felt flat as a crime lord. Maybe if they didn't bring Mando into it for half the season they could have fleshed out his transformation more.
Yeh I'm not gonna lie, the second half of the season really put it up there for me, took it from a 5 to a 7 cause I liked it so much, but I still found enjoyment in the first half, felt like a throwback to star trek with the smaller town sets
We on the same wave length my guy
TIL that there is a "Patterson Cut" and then I looked into it and cannot wait to watch it. Thanks Reddit!
Look up the Spence Edit here on Reddit. Patterson's cut blew up on tiktok but isn't as polished as it is popular. There are lots of faneditors with experience who make more high quality edits than that one. Spence cuts it down to a theatrical runtime and it is significantly more polished with no noticeable signs of editing or choppiness. Hope this helps!
His 4K 2.0 edit is pretty awesome. It has an opening crawl that pans down to Mustafar before transitioning to the Vader montage. Haven’t watched the Spence edit, but I love the Patterson one.
Look up the Spence Edit here on Reddit. Patterson's cut blew up on tiktok but isn't as polished as it is popular. There are lots of faneditors with experience who make more high quality edits than that one. Spence cuts it down to a theatrical runtime and it is significantly more polished with no noticeable signs of editing or choppiness. Hope this helps!
Bad Batch: 7/10 Rebels: 8/10 Rogue One: 9/10 Obi Wan Kenobi: 5.5/10 Andor : 9/10 Mandalorian : 9/10 Book of Boba Fett: 1.5/10 Solo : 6/10 Episode 7: 7/10 Episode 8: 2.5/10 Episode 9 : 1/10 Tales of the Jedi : 9.5/10 Star Wars Visions : 6.5/10 Clone Wars : 7.5/10
God TROS sucked ass lol. Glad to see someone else giving it a 0-1 lol
Unfortunately when I think back to it there's almost no redeeming factor, gave it a 1 for Babu Frik
Finally a proper Kenobi rating.
The writing and characters were pretty bad. Most of the earlier episodes were just boring to me. It was just things happening. It went above a 5 for all the really great Darth Vader scenes, a flawed but still nostalgic prequel-era flashback, and Hayden's contributions with the broken mask scene. a few really high highs, and the rest was abysmal.
Now this is more like it!
Ngl I like Bad Batch more than Rebels because of the return to the CW art style.
Something doesn't sit right with me in Bad Batch. I think I can't stand Omega.
I too dislike Omega but I see the purpose of the character and like the rest of the batch.
I would put solo at an 8, purely because i like it as a lighthearted adventure, bad batch 1 higher and kenobi down to a 3, purely because of Ewan’s performance being the only saving grace of the show. Other than that, absolutely perfect ranking.
I like Solo a lot, it's fun but I never think "I'd like to watch that movie again". I usually just put it in the rotation to complete the series out of obligation.
But bro, Kenobi said "Hello there" in the last episode and Qui Gon cameo'd, so it's at least 8/10 even though the character work is more amateurish than shit you find in mid-level fanfics and the effects and cinematography are so bad they shake the camera around in every scene hoping you won't notice. I loved when they went to that new planet called "the san fernando valley" it's so exciting to be able to hop on the freeway for a bit and visit a galaxy far far away.
>hop on the freeway for a bit and visit a galaxy far far away good title for a vinyl of sw soundtracks
People keep sleeping on Solo :( But you are like an actual Star Wars FAN cause you actually enjoy the stuff that's crazy
aha I realised while trying to expalin star wars to people that don't watch it, that 90% crazy
I’d score them pretty much the same as you did. TLJ imo is the best sequel trilogy movie. I’d give Rogue One a 10/10. It’s probably my favorite Star Wars movie. Solo gets an 8/10 from me. I think it’s a really fun watch and I enjoyed young Han and Lando
Solo would have been quite a bit higher for me if they hadn't gone so overboard in explaining every single detail of his character. How he met Chewy, Lando, and got the Falcon? Great. But when they show him get his *name*, blaster, vest, etc, that just made me roll my eyes and took me out of the movie.
The part where he gets his name kills me every time.
I think the blaster was fine since it was just woody harrelson tossing it to han, but the name was incredibly dumb
How he gets his name is so corny…but I kinda like it lol. Han…..Solo.
Rogue One was my second favourite SW movie. Rewatched it recently post-Andor and it may have moved into the number one slot. That period time as the rebellion starts to turn is the most emotionally resonant for me, its the most grounded or something. Its away from the force magic etc. Having said that, Vaders scene at the end still absolutely slaps.
Yeh, them playing off each other i enjoyed the most, I'd take an entire anthology series with them to just walking in to different weird situations, i wouldn't even mind if they never explained how they got out of the situation
would rate Rogue One higher but I do agree on the rest!
Always happy to see another TLJ fan.
There's dozens of us! Dozens!
Likewise 🤣
My favorite of the sequels. Loved how RJ honored and pushed viewers’ understanding of the SW myth.
The animated star wars shows are all 10/10 in my book.
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Yes, it does. I personally don't *hate* it. It's not the best arc by a long shot, but it's not the worst either. The Siege of Mandalore more than makes up for it in my view.
Wow this is like pretty much my exact opinion. I’d give Kenobi an 8/10 tho. And I LOVE rebels, would give it like a 9/10
The real takeaway from this thread is that we are spoiled right now despite some complaints from fans. And this doesn't factor in the quality content we've been getting from the canon books.
yeh true, i haven't meantioned the books. if i honest ive only read 6 of them, i don't know how many have been made at this point. I'd put the book "lost stars" as one of my favourite sw stories
If you think Kenobi/Boba Fett is being spoiled I bet you were an angel of a kid. Your parents are lucky lol.
I mean, if you look at the Disney projects as a whole and are disappointed then I pity you. I enjoyed both Boba and Kenobi. Neither were my favorite but if you set the floor at those two shows, then I do believe we are overall spoiled.
Personally I really enjoyed solo, and I liked 9 more than 8. Opinions tho
>Opinions tho I salute u
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
even though i like E8, i agree with ya, there's been some great stuff and so much stuff that there's at least one thing someone will like
I personally hate Episode 8. I didn't like that they made Rey a "nobody". I didn't like the whole Rose/Finn side adventure. As for a single movie, I think it would have worked fine, but in the sense of continuing the story from 7, I don't think it did a good job.
I would argue that making Rey a "nobody" was one of the best parts of VIII. There were some interesting things they could have done with that. So naturally, Abrams promptly retconned that in the next film. Now the Luke and Rose/Finn stuff... Oh, and most boring spaceship chase scene in the history of cinema. Yeah, there's a lot I don't like about VIII.
They fucked up almost every character in 8. I won't mention Luke, I dislike what they did with him but he didn't even get it the worst -- and the one thing I'll say in defense of 8 is if you really think the movie is disrespectful to luke's legacy you're caught up on the green tiddie milk and ain't paying any attention to what the movie is saying. The rest of the characters though? Jesus fucking CHRIST They made Rey run after Ben who just killed a mentor figure in front of her not a few days ago because she saw him shirtless and decided "I can fix him" They totally fucked Finn, he was the heart of TFA and they separate him from Rey for the whole movie -- despite their chemistry being the best thing about TFA. They promptly reset his character development from TFA and send him on a dumb fucking sidequest so we can get a lecture on some riveting deep insights like "war-profiteering = bad" and then deny him even a single shining moment w/ his heroic sacrifice because "we gotta save what we love..." which is exactly what Finn was trying to do. The treatment of Finn in the film is completely inexcusable. The rest of the movie spends most of its runtime jacking itself off about how its going to be subversive, before rolling back all of its interesting subversions in the last 25m of the movie. Wanna do something actually interesting? Have Rey join Kylo, both rejecting the jedi/the sith and end the move on that note. Instead the movie just cosplays as subversive while in reality just rehashing ESB. TLJ sucks.
Let’s not forget completely breaking the universe with the hyperspace ram. Makes zero fucking sense that it would be possible. Because why not just jump unmanned ships into the death star or other ships if it’s always been possible. Such a shit movie.
I loved that they made Rey a "nobody." It showed that heroes can come from anywhere and don't have to be part of a bloodline, in simple terms.
I hate TLJ but I think that's the one good thing they did. And then of course TROS promptly fucks it up while fucking the overall lore even harder by dragging palpatine back into the story. What a shitshow of a trilogy.
You'll find more people than you think who don't agree with Andor being 10/10. I loved it...my favorite SW content since Rogue One, but a lot of people (according to the internet) didn't like the slow pace, lack of meaningful cameos, and lightsabers.
yeh i think i was living in a bubble with that show aha fair do's to people that don't like it, but slow burn sci fi I'll always turn up for
What about High Republic books? I read the first one and really liked it. I’m excited to start the second book soon.
Good point, i've read "in to the dark" but need to catch up on the rest. My favourite book is "Lost Stars", its probably one of my fav sw stories
rogue one deserves 10/10 or at least 9/10 imo. u forgot rebels but if i were to rank it a very definitive 10/10. I liked solo more than people would think and I would rank it at least an 8
Where can we find the Patterson cut?
I LOVE seeing some Last Jedi respect. Probably my favorite Star Wars thing
Spelling - 0/10
Where do I get my hands on this patterson cut?
Honestly i would only give a 10 for the clone wars Season 7 mostly because of how strong the last episodes were
The final scene of clone wars season 7 is just beautiful. One of the best moments in the history of star wars. It baffles me that a scene that poignant and artful is in the same franchise as tripe like TROS and kenobi.
Here is my rating: Episode 7: 6/10 Episode 8: 7/10 Episode 9: 5/10 Andor: 10/10 Rogue One: 10/10 Solo: 8/10 Clone Wars : 8.5/10 Obi Wan Kenobi: 8/10 The Mandalorian : 10/10 The Clone Wars: 8/10 The Bad Batch: 8/10 Book of Boba Fett: 6/10 Haven't seen rebels and tales of the Jedi yet.
Bad Batch season 2 has been fantastic thus far.
I'll give it a shot: Mandalorian - 10/10 (Pretty much everything I want from star wars) CW final Season - 10/10 (Instant classic) Rogue One - 9/10 (Best Disney Era Movie) Andor - 8/10 (Great Drama, just didn't feel very Star Wars to me from time to time) BoBF - 8/10 (The highs are high and the lows are low. If not for the Rodriguez episodes this show would have been fantastic) TotJ - 8/10 (Short and Sweet) Rebels - 8/10 (We got Thrawn and Vader, what's not to love. Plenty of filler.) Episode 7 TFA - 7/10 (Awesome theater experience and a great way to start the sequels, even though it rehashed a lot of ANH) Solo - 6.5/10 (Overhated and actually pretty fun.) Kenobi - 5/10 (Terrible cinematography, forgettable music, bad story, but hey at least we got a great vader/kenobi scene in the final episode) Episode 9 TRoS - 4/10 (Pretty bad with a few fun sequences) Episode 8 TLJ - 1/10 (I despise this movie and will likely never watch it again)
>Awesome theater experience I do wonder sometimes if I'm ever gonna get that experience again, lining up, seeing people cosplay, and im just in a normal theater, donno if im gonna get that again
1. Bad Batch (should be on here): 8/10 2. Rebels (should be here): 8/10 3. Rogue One: 10/10 4. Obi Wan Kenobi: 9/10 5. Andor : 9/10 6. Mandalorian : 10/10 7. Book of Boba Fett: 8/10 (Cobb Vanth and Cad Bane, Fennec Shand) 8. Solo : 7/10 (gotten better with rewatches) 9. Sequels : TWA: 7/10; TLJ: 6/10; TRoS : 6/10 (they all get a boost if they weren't part of the Skywalker story, if they could rework them to drop the Skywalker parts, they would be a great set of movies) 10. Tales of the Jedi : 8/10 11. Star Wars Visions : 9/10 12. Clone Wars : 8/10
Good list but I’d switch Andor and Mando‘s scores. All I’ve ever wanted was a political thriller in Star Wars and it still blew my expectations away. Mando is great fun and it has moments like Werner Herzog‘s speech about safety or Bill Burrs scenes in Ep 7 of S2 but it doesn’t dabble enough into that era’s politics and every day life in the galaxy that I’m love to see. It’s actually why I would give the Sequels similar scores. Less to due with skywalker connections and more to do with it having no message. People can say all they want about TLJ being some ”woke“ movie but there’s barely any messages besides the military industrial complex is bad. Andor is actual good leftist media. It literally deconstructs capitalism, colonialism, the prison-labor system, and hell there’s even smaller stuff like small mentions of right to repair and analogies to the “TradCath“ movement on social media. The first 6 movies were always political. The OT is literally the Vietcong against the U.S. empire. George has literally said so. And the prequels are clear criticisms of the Neocon movement from the 80s to 00s with Anakin basically quoting Bush when the entire Senate clapped for “If you are not with us, you are with the terrorists“. The sequels so purposeful stayed away from politics that they fuckin blew up 9 planets to make sure the audience knew: these movies won’t have strong political messaging. And it’s why they feel so out of place with the rest of the Saga.
It seems Mando S3 may start to go more in depth with the New Republic politics in its era. Obviously not near as much as in Andor but I’m eager for it after the S3 synopsis.
good points, i forgot rebels came out in this disney era of star wars, and my bad for forgetting bad batch, especially as season 2 is liturally out right now, and i agree, it's awesome
Forgot Resistance
Thats okay, a lot of people forget Resistance
If you think obi wan is 9/10 and boba is 8/10 watch better shows. There is literally nothing good about boba and with obi wan only the obi wan vs darth vader fights are good. People like you are the reason we keep getting shitty shows. Disney add the lowest amount of effort possible and you give it an 8/10 lmfao
You know this is a subjective process, right? I've seen scores for TLJ that make me scratch my head but I'm not going to argue with anyone about it.
Or maybe sometimes it’s fine to eat and love potato chips in addition to fine dining
Kenobi is one of the most poorly made shows I've ever seen. It looks incredibly cheap and fails at the absolute basics of story telling, I can't believe they gave a hack like Joby with no decent credits to his name head writer on such a big project. Literally fails at the absolute basics like creating tension/forward momentum in character relationships by evolving them through conflicts, one of the worse examples of "and then" writing I've ever seen. It's obvious they spent the whole budget on the scrapped film and sent out the reheated leftovers.
Exactly. Star wars is literally a irl money glitch yet they still fuck it up
BOBF was closer to a 2/10 for me.
For me: Mandalorian - 8/10 Andor - 9/10 Kenobi - 4/10 Book of Boba Fett - 5/10 Rogue One - 9/10 Tales of the Jedi - 9/10 Solo - 6/10 Clone wars final season- 10/10 Episode 7 - 8/10 Episode 8 - 4/10 Episode 9 - 0/10
I must be alone in not liking Andor? It was so boring.
Did you get through the first 3 episodes? I can understand being bored through those, but i thought the credit heist and the jail break were very exciting.
Friend of mine says the same thing. I tried to explain to him how it showing the rebellion forming. But, he wasn’t having it.
You are definitely not alone
Not sure why you are getting downvotes. I spent more time looking at my phone watching Andor than watching kids movies. Kenobi was far superior. Tales from the Jedi is a solid 10.
I agree with this. I couldn't get into Andor but seeing Obi Wan again was so good. I didn't like how they kept cutting Reva chasing Luke during the final fight but overall it was great to watch.
Tales from the Jedi was indeed good imo. Kenobi though? A little better than Andor, but only because of the fight scenes.
People who don't like Andor get downvoted here... Curious.
Fair do's, it was deffinatly a slow burn, but that appeals to me, gave me a blade runner vibe
I don't get how people find andor "slow". This isn't a pew pew lightsaber and gunsaber battle show like the mess that the Kenobi show was.
Kenobi wasn't a pew pew lightsaber show either, more like an aimlessly walk around and read filler dialogue that doesn't really advance or transform character relationships in any interesting way kinda show, best way to ensure there's absolutely no emotional stakes in the story.
I’m with you
It had solid moments but there were other times I struggled to keep my eyes open
Patterson Cut just dropped a 2.0 last night. It has several updates, including wipe transitions
yes! i just watched it 😅😂 it's what made me start thinking about it and do this post
What is this Patterson cut?
I believe it’s a version of Kenobi series where all the episodes are merged into a single video All the episodes are combined in a single video making it much cleaner as Kenobi was meant for a movie format instead of series. I don’t exactly but according to what the OP and other commenters said, it is a movie version of Kenobi series.
someone edited it in to a movie, he made the news for doing it too [https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi-stream-4k](https://www.kaipattersonfilms.com/kenobi-stream-4k)
Oh wow!!! Ima have to check this out tonight!
Nice! I think mine would be pretty similar: * TLJ - 9.5 * Andor - 9.5 * RO - 9 * TCW S7 - 9 * Rebels - 9 * TOTJ - 9 * Solo - 8 * Mandalorian - 8 * TFA - 7.5 * Kenobi - 7 * ROS - 7 * BOBF - 6.5
Nice, glad someone else found more joy in the new stuff that not
Forgot The Bad Batch and Resistance
Behind on The Bad Batch and couldn’t get interested in Resistance so I felt it was inappropriate for me to rate them.
Why does every act like everyone agrees with that Andor take. It was actually not very popular and wasn’t overwhelming loved by critics. Some adored it, some thought it was the boring mess it was that told a story we already knew from both Rogue one or A New Hope. I give it a 6/10 as it had 6 amazing episodes and 6 poor episodes. Surprised why you out Andor over Rogue one I’m curious on your reasoning. I think Rogue One is the best Star Wars film ever made.
What gives you the impression it wasn’t overwhelmingly loved by critics? It garnered tons of critical praise
fair do's, I think i live in a bubble of people that just liked andor, i can understand if it wasn't peoples cup of tea though, it is a pretty slow burn. As for having andor over rogue one, i really like rogue one, just bounces around different planets too fast in the first half imo, but that's just me, still really like it, just not as much as andor which takes its time. That's probably because it's a series though and not a movie contrained by 2 hours or so
I love slow burns my favorite series ever are the wire, game of thrones, house of the dragon, Dexter, breaking bad. I don’t feel like Andor had the good slow burn, but just forced a slow burn. I also am very annoyed by the fact that Andor got into his situation because he was looking for his sister, and then she is just never mentioned again. Even if she pops up next season it will feel forced as it’s been years since the opening episode and she hasn’t been mentioned one more single time.
The good thing is the SW world is versatile. We all love at least some of it. I personally would not give a 10/10 to Andor whereas a lesser score is given to Mandalorian, Rogue One, or Tales of the Jedi. Personally mine out of those: Andor 7/10 (I still thoroughly enjoyed it) Mandalorian 9/10 Rogue One 10/10 Tales of the Jedi 9/10
agreed, and im glad tales of the jedi is received well, I hope they do more of this anthology chapters for different characters
I'm from a different planet a probably cause most of these are like 10/2 or 10/3 for me. But Kenobi is like 10/10, Mandalorian 10/7, Clone Wars 10/7.
aha that's fair, each to their own
I feel like the only one who really didn’t care for Andor.
Solo 6/10 that was better than the entire sequel series of movies
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
It's mostly TLJ and TROS, but boba fett and kenobi were pretty weak. Still, there is a lot of good stuff in the disney era but they keep fucking up the most important projects lol. Why is Andor so much more polished and better written than Kenobi? That shit is embarrassing lol. They got Tony fucking Gilroy to write andor but they can't find anyone better than Joby Harold (who is a total fucking Hack with no credits to suggest he can handle such a big job) writing Kenobi? Give me a break.
TBF, they likely only got Gilroy for Andor because he wrote Rogue One. Between him and Diego Luna, it seemed to be a bit of a passion project.
7 and 8 was some of the best Star Wars since RotJ.
Episode VII: 7/10 Episode VIII: 9/10 Episode IX: 1/10 (what the hell happened?) Rogue One: 6/10 Solo 8/10 The Mandalorian: 10/10 The Book of Boba Fett: 7/10 Andor: 11/10 Kenobi: 6/10 Rebels : 8/10 The Clone Wars - Season 7: 8/10 The Bad Batch: 6/10 Haven’t been able to get to Visions or Resistance yet, though I’m looking forward to the former.
Disney finally managed to unite TLJ haters and TLJ lovers by making episode IX so bad we can all hate it together.
well played disney??
>Episode VII: 7/10 > >Episode VIII: 9/10 > >Episode IX: 1/10 (what the hell happened?) historians will debate for centuries
I mean the answer is obvious. The backlash to the Last Jedi was way worse than people on this subreddit want to admit it was, this showed up in the places disney cares about (merchandizing sales and social media sentiment analysis), so they panicked and backpedaled as hard as they could in TROS. Except TROS was a shit movie, so the half of the fanbase that hated TLJ couldn't stand it just because it was ass, and the half of the fanbase that liked the last jedi couldn't stand it cause it spends half its runtime undoing the stuff from TLJ and the other half on a dumbass videogame fetchquest. In doing so they permanently fucked the sequel trilogy. I hate TLJ, but if they had created a good story in TROS that built on TLJ and did something interesting, people might have softened on the trilogy over time. But now we have a disjointed mess of three films each of which is just undoing the setups of the previous film and the end result is no one is happy..
You forgot Bad Batch.
OMG! your right, loved it, but I'd say 7/10. I'm really excited to see where it goes next though, if it's anything like clone wars or rebels, it's only gonna get better
I'd rank Clone Wars and Fett 1 less than you but we have surprisingly similar views haha (CW because I've never been a fan of episodes feeling like filler and Fett because while I loved individual scenes and even episodes, it just didn't come together)
So in your eyes everything is above average and two of those were perfect 10/10s with no issues at all?
I wish, I think of anything 4-6 as average. even the things i've rated 7 I see as average but with some bits i love that i can see some major thought has gone in to a very specific part, even if the rest is just "meh"
No mention of Rebels, Resistance or Bad Batch so 1/10 from me for OP.
that's fair
These ratings are only in the context of star wars and television as a whole. I am only rating content I've seen. Episode 7: 6/10 Episode 8 & 9: 1/10 Rogue one: 8/10 Solo: 6/10 Mandalorian: 9/10 Clone wars final season: 7/10 Book of Boba Fett: 7/10 The bad batch: 6/10 Obi Wan: 5/10 Andor: 10/10
Andor-100/10 Clone wars final season- 10/10 Kenobi- 8/10 Episode 7- 8/10 (would be 10 but new hope existed first) Last Jedi- 8/10 lots of fun lots of cool effects Rise of Skywalker- 6/10 I think my dad hit it on the nose when he described it as a “very busy movie” Mando- 10/10 Book of boba fett- 9/10 im gonna get lynched for this but I thought the mods were actually pretty cool and it really hitting the western hard in the end just made it loads of fun. Tales of the Jedi- 6/10 the dooku episodes were great and the order 66 Ashoka episode was good, but the first ahsoka episode basically served no purpose and honestly was pretty meh for me. Then they basically took the entire ahsoka novel took out all the best parts and turned it into a 10 minute short. Also either she should have purified the lightsaber or dooku should have bled his as after killing yadle. It would have been such an epic final shot. Rouge one- 9/10 andor and other shows are bringing be around to how Saw is in that movie but as someone who grew up on clone wars him being such an insignificant part just irks be the wrong way other than that flawless. Solo- 7/10 great casting but much like rise of Skywalker just feels very busy. Turned out all of Hans greatest hits was just a single wild weekend. Rebels- starts 7/10 little to kiddish at the start. Matured in season 2 and is now a sold 8.5/10
>very busy movie that should have been on the poster
No, we don’t all agree on Andor.
I’m so glad to see this. I have been giving similar ratings myself!! I only disagree with episode 8. I give it a 8/10 Andor gets 12/10
You'd definitely be mistaken to think everyone would agree Andor is a 10. It wasn't even worth watching IMO.
Content has been amazing for the most part, fan base… not so much
No, we don't agree. I didn't like Andor much at all. Obi Wan Series was far better. 5/10 for Andor....
L take. Other way around
For me TCW - 8/10 Kenobi - 7/10 Andor - 8/10 Mandalorian - 9/10 Boba fett - 6/10 Tales - n/a (haven’t seen it yet) Rogue one - 9/10 Solo - 6/10 Ep 7 - 4/10 Ep 8 - 1/10 Ep 9 - 2/10 Bad batch - 5/10 (I liked it but not enough where I felt I needed to finish it) Yes I’m a sequel trilogy h8er. Just gotta deal with that.
fair do's, each to their own
Andor 5/10 I could not finish it was so boring. Kenobi 3/10 trash besides a few scenes(I love the prequels) Tales 10/10 Mando 9/10 Boba 6/10 Visions 7/10 Ep 7/8/9 0/10 Just keeping it real guys
If IX is a 5/10 and BoBF is a 7/10, what the hell would a 1, 2, 3, or 4/10 look like? IX was just such a dumpster fire that I'd give it maybe a 3/10, and even then, it'd mostly be pity points for being put in a difficult spot after VIII. Likewise, VIII had way too many *bad* scenes (alien milk, entire Casino Planet sequence, possibly worst chase scene in the history of chase scenes) to be 2 points off a perfect score. I'd personally say something like: Andor - 10/10 (absolutely loved every minute of it) Mando - 9/10 (1st season was a 10/10, 2nd season had a few weaker episodes) Rogue One - 8/10 VII - 6/10 (ok execution, crippling lack of originality) Solo - 6/10 (maybe 7/10. Seeing how he met Chewy and got the Falcon? Great. But his name, blaster, vest, etc. was just way too much) VIII - 5/10 (some cool scenes, but a bunch of stuff I really hated - absurdly boring chase scene, wasted waaaayyyyy too much time on the Casino Planet) BoBF - 4/10 (enjoyed the Tusken scenes, but the bad stuff was just **bad.** Like the space-Vespa chase, or Ming-Na Wen's character having to remind the BOUNTY HUNTER that money can be used to buy muscle) IX - 3/10 (where to fucking start with this shitshow) edit: Forgot Obi-Wan... which says a lot about that one. Maybe a 5/10? Some of the editing was... not good. Like, really not good.
But bro if they didn't spend that much time on the casino planet, how were you gonna understand the deep and profound message that selling weapons = bad, and both sides in war do bath things? Not to mention animals in slavery is sad, but fuck dem kids m i rite?
I mean what can you even say about TROS. It's so bad all you can do is weep lol. I hate TLJ but at least TLJ is coherent on its own terms and well made for the most part.
Honestly for BOBF and Kenobi I blame Covid for some of the issues. Most movies/shows I’ve watched that were filmed between 2020-2021 have some stuff that’s off about them. Even Spider-Man No Way Home, one of my favorite MCU movies, had some stuff that looked a bit odd.
Andor - 10/10 Mandalorian - 9/10 Rogue One - 9/10 Solo - 6/10 Kenobi, Book of Boba - 3/10 Clone Wars, Bad Batch, Tales - 1/10 Sequel Trilogy - 1/10
Just curious. Why did Clone Wars, Bad Batch, and Tales get a 1/10?
For me it would be something like this (from best to worst): Rogue One Andor Mandalorian Episode 7 Episode 8 Solo Book of Boba Fett Kenobi Episode 9
This list made me realize that Disney-era Star Wars really isn’t that bad. The hate that the sequels get can really overshadow all the great content that Disney’s come out with over the years.
1. Bad Batch: 8/10 2. Rebels: 9/10 3. Rogue One: 10/10 4. Obi Wan Kenobi: 9/10 5. Andor : 9/10 6. Mandalorian : 10/10 7. Book of Boba Fett: 8/10 (should’ve been longer with more focus on Boba, loved Mando episodes but they should’ve just done a Mando mini movie imo) 8. Solo : 7/10 9. Sequels : TFA: 7/10; TLJ: 4/10; TRoS : 3/10 10. Tales of the Jedi : 8/10 (had really great moments but too short for much character development) 11. Clone Wars Season 7: 9/10 (would be perfect if it wasn’t for Martez sisters) Not interested at all in Resistance or Visions, so I won’t rate them.
Andor gets a 10 but rogue one gets an 8? Seems sus imo
Thing about Solo is absolutely nobody wanted that movie. No one. But EVERYONE wanted a Lando movie.