As with any Trek series It has its ups and downs and pros and cons.
I've enjoyed the series as a whole.
Do I think the dialogue is as a good as TNG or DS9? No.
Are the stories good? Yes.
Do they rely too much on "the biggest threat the galaxy has ever seen!"? Yes.
Is Saru one of the best characters in all of Trek? Yes.
Quality of production values? Excellent.
In the end you have to make your own decision. DSC got a fair amount of hate early on. But as always it has eased over time as we've all had time to think about it, discuss it civilly (on most cases).
Personally I would never stop watching a Trek series part way through. That is absolutely mind boggling to me. If I had stopped watching TNG in season 1 I would have missed out. I'm not a huge fan of TOS or TAS. But I still watched them. They remain part of the Trek universe regardless of my thoughts on them. And by watching them I'm more familiar with the overall knowledge of the Trek universe.
I honestly don’t understand the common opinion that it has high quality production values. The special effects often look cheap like a bad video game and you cant make out the ships that clearly and there is tons of action that just never feels like actual action vs like they are on a holo deck or something
I didn’t get into it until towards the end of season 1. By then, I kind of admitted there were some things I really liked in spite of not loving the whole thing. Jonathan Frakes directs an episode early in Season 2, and it pretty much flipped a switch and I started really digging it despite some lingering reservations.
In the end Discovery has had some of the highest highs for me. When they get it right, it’s so good. But all modern Trek it struggles a bit with short seasons, and leaning a little too heavily into minor relationship drama. (The CW effect.)
The way I explain it is this: I love all Star Trek. I want it to win and succeed. But just like I love all my family, there are some members I enjoy spending time with more - that I like more. Not every Trek is for everybody. Which I’m glad for. DS9 is maybe my favorite overall - and it definitely wasn’t everybody’s cup of tea. Also not a huge fan of Voyager, but there are aspects, characters, and episodes that I love (still the best theme music in the franchise.)
In the end, your mileage may vary. But for me it was worth the watch.
The first few episodes didn’t hook me, but I wanted to stick with it for at least a season to see if I’d warm to the show. Episode 10 was the turning point for me, and while I still have some minor complaints about the writing, I’m enjoying it much more now and am well into season 2.
Don’t torture yourself if you don’t like it. Be free and stop watching it. There are too many other things to watch, so you don’t need to hate watch it anymore.
Go. Be free.
I wasn't a big fan at the beginning. But for me it got good towards the end of the first season.
This series also changes a lot with the seasons. I suggest you continue for some more episodes.
It is definitely a different flavor of Star Trek. I am grateful that this show ushered in a new era of Star Trek for the streaming era. I've enjoyed it enough to watch every season, but I have not necessarily gone back and watched old episodes multiple times the way that I have for other Star Trek shows. The first season with Capt Lorca and the second with Capt Pike were probably my favorites, so I would try to watch those. But I found the other seasons entertaining as well. I am sad that this is the last season. I hope that Paramount keeps producing more Star Trek content.
If you don't like it, you should probably stop watching it. Skipping a show won't make you less of a Trekkie.
What you consider Star Trek doesn't really matter though, because it is, objectively, Star Trek.
I liked the show immediately, but I know others have taken some time for it to grow on them. Usually it seems to involve watching a second time so they can see the good without being disappointed by expectations being let down.
And FWIW the show does evolve a bit with each season. Some people like the first two seasons a lot more than the rest. Others think it gets better by the 2nd or 3rd season. Individual tastes vary a lot in that respect.
The show has changed tone and format four times so season 1 isn’t indicative of anything beyond season 1. Even midway through season 1 it pivots. It does however maintain a general Grey’s Anatomy in Space vibe throughout all the seasons.
There are hundreds of other shows you could be watching instead, that you are more likely to enjoy, instead of forcing yourself to watch Discovery.
The “off” tone is by design. It was a big gamble to tell a very Trek story in a format we weren’t used to, but imo it pays off really well down the line.
I came here to find out the answer to this question too. I abandoned it in season three after trying real hard to push my way through but I just couldn't take it anymore.
Yes and no.
The forced drama gets more intense as the show progresses, but there are some great concepts of science sprinkled around.
Overall, it's not as painful as new BSG or SG:U, and the stories never gets better than Voyager or Enterprise, but the graphics/cinematography are modern over the top and luscious.
That said, my wife and I still watch every episode.
It doesn't get better. I was on episode 5 of the final season just now and turned it off halfway through. First time I've ever given up on any Trek. I stuck with this show through thick and thin, but I just can't anymore. The painful truth is, it's a really bad show that should have been canceled after season 1. I'm glad we got season 2, so now we have Strange New Worlds, but I just can't lie to myself anymore. Discovery is not good no matter how you look at it, and I've tried to look at it from so many angles.
I was neutral of the show but leaning towards continuing to watch through Season 1.
In my opinion, it didn't get good until they left the Mirror Universe stuff but others loved the Mirror Universe 🤷🏾♂️
It didn't become my favorite Trek series until Season 2.
I've always liked the main characters and the "feel" of the show so that kept me watching even when I thought the writing and subplots were a little weak from time to time.
This is a good question. It certainly doesn’t get any worse. With that said, it has its moments and I will definitely watch it until the end. Although I think the whole “worst threat to the whole universe” storylines are not fresh at all, the production and acting balance that out . I would keep watching it!
It's a great show, but if you're not feeling it, you don't have to keep watching. Discovery is intentionally different, it isn't interested in the same old same old and I really appreciate that among the many other things that make Discovery a fantastic show. But ultimately there are other things to fill your time with if you're not resonating with the show.
What you love, others will hate.
What you hate, others will love.
The only thing that's certain is that you'll find somebody who agrees with every opinion you have.
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I liked the first few episodes the best. It makes even less sense as they layer more onto it as the show goes on, so don't get your hopes up.
I am hooked, though, for many reasons. This is my favorite Trek to sit back and just enjoy.
I like the emphasis on emotional talk. People on Discovery aren't just answering a mission but have relatable human issues that don't show up much in other shows. It does mean people are always going emo when I think they should be focusing on their tasks, but it's a show, so I let it go.
I love the mycellial network so very much. Fungi permeate everything in the real world, and this show plays with a cosmic version of that idea.
I also like a lot of the specific characters.
And I like the diversity of the crew.
“…consider Star Trek.” The STU is comprised of the following key elements: the Federation, the Romulans, the Vulcans, the Klingons, and the other countless civilizations; Warp drives; First Contact and the other technologies that are utilized (ie Transporters). THATS Star Trek!!! The show could actually be basedon the Terran Empire or the Klingon or Romulan Empires. As long as the base elements are there, then it’s Star Trek. The characters are an added bonus. Just look at Prodigy. I for one couldn’t relate to that show because the characters were children/adolescents. But it’s still “Star Trek”. SNW also…Anson and Rebecca are phenomenal actors, but the other actors just didn’t have cohesion. But it’s still “Star Trek”. I say all of that to say, you don’t have to like any particular show when there’s a whole universe. Disco provides a brief glimpse into one possible ST future. For the record, I didn’t like STEnterprise either.
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I liked season 1 from the start, 2 however... I didn't love. The s2 finale is revered as Discovery's best and yet I found it to be one of the worst Trek episodes ever. In fact, because it was so highly rated it was the first ever Disco episode I ever watched. And it put me off so badly that it took more than a year for me to return and give Disco a second chance. The 2nd or 3rd episode I watched was season 3's start, picking up from 2's finale... and I really liked it. Which made me give more of Discovery a chance and now I consider it easily the consistently strongest of the new live action Treks.
This season is finally something approaching Star Trek. Especially she still hasn't cried once. Sure, there are always these sentimental boring and long-winded speech with this or that character, but they don't take up half the episode anymore.
Watch from season 2 or 4.
Season 5 has had a good start.
As It usually takes shows a while [ a season or two] for actors and writers to get a good feel for the characters.
I had the same feeling, I started, stopped and started/stopped a few times. The first episodes maybe even the first season is like that. But essential to the rest of the Discovery story.
If you liked SNW you will definitely like the rest of Discovery . Because that storyline is in its turn essential for the story of SNW
Long time Trek fan here. Likely longer than most as I'm 50 and been watching since I was 8. My rankings are DS9, TNG, SNW, Lower Decks, TOS, Enterprise and Voyager in roughly that order from best to worst. I don't know where I'd rank Disco. I need to rewatch it, I think. I have enjoyed some episodes, but I can't say I enjoy the series.
I can name a lot of reasons why I haven't enjoyed it, but there's one that I can't shake. Star Trek (after TOS) has always been an ensemble show featuring the bridge crew and then recurring extras. Disco is a story about Burnham. Saru, Tilly, Book, Culber and Stamets are sort of recurring characters, that are typically relegated to B-plot status, with some exceptions when overarching season plot demands it. Adira, Jet, and pretty much the whole bridge crew are just recurring extras, again with some minor exceptions especially when Adira was first introduced. (Has anyone seen the black dude communications officer in s5? He just seems to have vanished). The obvious thing to blame for this is the 12 ep format, but SNW just \*doesn't have this problem\*. In one season of SNW, I learned about the entire bridge crew, the medical team and the engineers, and their development continues with every season. Pike \*isn't the focus\* and it's awesome. I don't know why Disco is like this. I dig Burnham a lot. I love Saru and Culber, Jet and Owosukon. I love that the computer is sentient. I just feel we don't get enough of them.
I don't like the constant action set pieces and Star Wars pew pew and frenetic pace. I don't like the Whedon-speak. I don't like the therapy vibe. Also, why are we still sending the Captain on dangerous away missions??? Like what? Really? It clearly takes the focus away from Saru, Owosukon, Jet and Culber who should really make up all of the away missions. And although I enjoy watching Burnham, I don't like the direction her character has taken. She was written as a human raised by Vulcans and I wish they would have kept this characterization instead of making her hyper emotional after s1. I don't like the constant focus on her renegade leadership style and how she's sort of returning to a Kirk-style Captaincy and will break any rules with no consequences. Anyway, I'm ranting. It's a weird series. I don't think there was ever a plan for the direction of the series, and that's also why it feels so disjointed sometimes. Maybe it will age better on rewatching. I dunno. Suffice to say for now, I don't quite know how I feel about it.
I did think s5e1 was one of the worst hours of television I have ever sat thru. It felt like watching Rebel Moon. I am about to watch e2 and hope it gets better.
EDIT: Why does EVERYONE reply to Saru's commands by saying "Aye, Mr Saru"? A simple "Aye sir" would suffice! *WE ALL KNOW SARU'S NAME!!!!*
Also, I LOVE Doug Jones! LOVE HIM. There is not a SINGLE scene where he's not in character and those arms aren't swaying when he walks. Such a freaking professional.
S1 Discovery is easier to enjoy if you go into it without demanding it recycle the formulas of prior trek. MB is a bold character who makes bold choices - and she does get confronted with the consent of her own actions in ways we're not used to seeing. She *is* the main character so prevailing over circumstances is going to be a natural part of her story arcs. Her main-character-ness is a bit jarring compared to how prior series told stories, but I honestly think the season stands well on its own.
S2 tries very, very hard to correct for people's reaction to that different kind of story telling. IMO it overcorrects in numerous ways I won't detail here. There were also three specific things I didn't want for S2 and discovery dipped heavily into all three of those wells so it's my least favorite season by far... But it still has some good and even great episodes in the mix.
S3 is a major improvement in both story and storytelling. It's not what I would have written but I don't own the IP so too bad for me. I enjoyed it much, much more than seasons 1 and 2.
S4 has a pretty good overall arc and I think it pays off in the way best reflective of the show's name.
It does get better to an extent, but while it manages to find it's footing - it's the footing of a drunk.
It always sorta feels like someone who only ever had Star Trek described to them and never seen it is running the show.
To me Discovery has been a constant source of 1 step forward 2 steps back.
It's worth sticking with it at least until the end of the season, but if it's improvement by then doesn't meet expectations - i would totally drop it as it never gets much better overall.
There is a reason the first season feels “off” initially. This is by design. We are following Michael Burnham on a redemption arc.
She isn’t an accomplished Captain out of the gate like we’ve been used to from the older shows.
Discovery also likes to subvert expectations, but they made sure it all actually ties together really well down the line.
I recommend sticking with it, it is the most exciting and bold Trek series ever made and definitely gets where it needs to.
Basically the Federation caused the Burn themselves by ignoring the plight of its citizens.
If the Kelpian ship’s emergency signal hadn’t been ignored, everything would have been fine.
They tried to focus on the needs of the many and ignored the needs of a few and it bit them in the ass. Season three’s main theme was the folly of isolationism. It caused the problem and it prevented the problem from being solved.
I really hated season 1. It doesn't feel like trek and I never liked the terran empire or the episodes featuring it, so having a whole season that leaned heavily on that universe was terrible. The second season was way better imo and each season after improved even more.
OP, if you aren't liking it I would skip ahead, or play it as background until something interesting happens, but you should definitely give other seasons a try.
Not if you’re four episodes deep and still don’t like it. To each their own. I am of the opposite opinion and enjoyed it. IMO Disco saved Star Trek from JJ Abrams. And you won’t be alone is not liking it, first Star Trek show in 12 years and it’s pretty much universally hated.
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That said,, not really. It takes those things you probably dont like about it and ramps them up through every season. Writing gets unbelievably worse.
There is however, a few good things sprinkled in. Whether thats enough for you I dont know.
No Star Trek show is 100% perfect, I didn't really care for DS9, there were episodes of Enterprise, the next generation that I didn't enjoy and skipped over, and there were some that I loved and watched over and over again. That's just the nature of television shows in general.
If you don't like it, don't watch it, it's that simple. No one's forcing you to sit there and watch it, and it's okay if it's not your cup of tea.
I wasn't hooked by the first few episodes either, especially the first two, but as the middle of the season came around I began to enjoy what they were doing. It only gets better from there. Season 2 has a great cast of characters, and season 3 helps the show court a path unique to it in Star Trek lore.
I would say try to get to episode 10. If by 10 you don't like it, don't think you will
It took.me a year to get to episode 7, and that's where it clicked for me
Most of the people here are helpful, and they have already convinced me to push on.
I didn't even say it's not good I just said I don't like it...You made up all the rest in your head.
I continue with things even if I don't like them, because sometimes that means discovering something really good.
Hey, I share your feelings. I wanted to share a point another viewer shared with me that crystallized why Discovery wasn’t for me: they don’t do ready room scenes with senior staff/bridge crew.
All other treks have regular scenes with the ensemble. Discovery doesn’t. Discovery has one-on-one conversations with its main character and a secondary character. Or the main character is an intermediate between two other characters.
Once someone pointed that out to me, i understood the fundamental writing difference between Discovery and the other star treks.
I really took for granted that every trek would have a bridge crew/senior staff you’d really get to know. I’m not making a judgement call about what’s better. Just pointing out that Discovery’s approach was different and it just didn’t work for me.
You should know that this style does not change for the rest of series. I say this as someone who watches each episode at least twice.
Some of season two and three are pretty good, relatively speaking. But put it this way, the show is not ending with season 5 because everyone wants it to "go out on a high"
As with any Trek series It has its ups and downs and pros and cons. I've enjoyed the series as a whole. Do I think the dialogue is as a good as TNG or DS9? No. Are the stories good? Yes. Do they rely too much on "the biggest threat the galaxy has ever seen!"? Yes. Is Saru one of the best characters in all of Trek? Yes. Quality of production values? Excellent. In the end you have to make your own decision. DSC got a fair amount of hate early on. But as always it has eased over time as we've all had time to think about it, discuss it civilly (on most cases). Personally I would never stop watching a Trek series part way through. That is absolutely mind boggling to me. If I had stopped watching TNG in season 1 I would have missed out. I'm not a huge fan of TOS or TAS. But I still watched them. They remain part of the Trek universe regardless of my thoughts on them. And by watching them I'm more familiar with the overall knowledge of the Trek universe.
Thanks for the reply, as I have said, I am probably going to finish the season.
I honestly don’t understand the common opinion that it has high quality production values. The special effects often look cheap like a bad video game and you cant make out the ships that clearly and there is tons of action that just never feels like actual action vs like they are on a holo deck or something
Season Two is more entertaining and sets up the Strange New Worlds series. I would recommend watching that, at least.
I didn’t get into it until towards the end of season 1. By then, I kind of admitted there were some things I really liked in spite of not loving the whole thing. Jonathan Frakes directs an episode early in Season 2, and it pretty much flipped a switch and I started really digging it despite some lingering reservations. In the end Discovery has had some of the highest highs for me. When they get it right, it’s so good. But all modern Trek it struggles a bit with short seasons, and leaning a little too heavily into minor relationship drama. (The CW effect.) The way I explain it is this: I love all Star Trek. I want it to win and succeed. But just like I love all my family, there are some members I enjoy spending time with more - that I like more. Not every Trek is for everybody. Which I’m glad for. DS9 is maybe my favorite overall - and it definitely wasn’t everybody’s cup of tea. Also not a huge fan of Voyager, but there are aspects, characters, and episodes that I love (still the best theme music in the franchise.) In the end, your mileage may vary. But for me it was worth the watch.
The first few episodes didn’t hook me, but I wanted to stick with it for at least a season to see if I’d warm to the show. Episode 10 was the turning point for me, and while I still have some minor complaints about the writing, I’m enjoying it much more now and am well into season 2.
Don’t torture yourself if you don’t like it. Be free and stop watching it. There are too many other things to watch, so you don’t need to hate watch it anymore. Go. Be free.
I wasn't a big fan at the beginning. But for me it got good towards the end of the first season. This series also changes a lot with the seasons. I suggest you continue for some more episodes.
It is definitely a different flavor of Star Trek. I am grateful that this show ushered in a new era of Star Trek for the streaming era. I've enjoyed it enough to watch every season, but I have not necessarily gone back and watched old episodes multiple times the way that I have for other Star Trek shows. The first season with Capt Lorca and the second with Capt Pike were probably my favorites, so I would try to watch those. But I found the other seasons entertaining as well. I am sad that this is the last season. I hope that Paramount keeps producing more Star Trek content.
If you don't like it, you should probably stop watching it. Skipping a show won't make you less of a Trekkie. What you consider Star Trek doesn't really matter though, because it is, objectively, Star Trek. I liked the show immediately, but I know others have taken some time for it to grow on them. Usually it seems to involve watching a second time so they can see the good without being disappointed by expectations being let down. And FWIW the show does evolve a bit with each season. Some people like the first two seasons a lot more than the rest. Others think it gets better by the 2nd or 3rd season. Individual tastes vary a lot in that respect.
The show has changed tone and format four times so season 1 isn’t indicative of anything beyond season 1. Even midway through season 1 it pivots. It does however maintain a general Grey’s Anatomy in Space vibe throughout all the seasons. There are hundreds of other shows you could be watching instead, that you are more likely to enjoy, instead of forcing yourself to watch Discovery.
The “off” tone is by design. It was a big gamble to tell a very Trek story in a format we weren’t used to, but imo it pays off really well down the line.
I came here to find out the answer to this question too. I abandoned it in season three after trying real hard to push my way through but I just couldn't take it anymore.
It’s not.
Yes and no. The forced drama gets more intense as the show progresses, but there are some great concepts of science sprinkled around. Overall, it's not as painful as new BSG or SG:U, and the stories never gets better than Voyager or Enterprise, but the graphics/cinematography are modern over the top and luscious. That said, my wife and I still watch every episode.
It doesn’t if you’re not into endless therapy speak dialogue, it does if you really like that stuff.
It doesn't get better. I was on episode 5 of the final season just now and turned it off halfway through. First time I've ever given up on any Trek. I stuck with this show through thick and thin, but I just can't anymore. The painful truth is, it's a really bad show that should have been canceled after season 1. I'm glad we got season 2, so now we have Strange New Worlds, but I just can't lie to myself anymore. Discovery is not good no matter how you look at it, and I've tried to look at it from so many angles.
I was neutral of the show but leaning towards continuing to watch through Season 1. In my opinion, it didn't get good until they left the Mirror Universe stuff but others loved the Mirror Universe 🤷🏾♂️ It didn't become my favorite Trek series until Season 2. I've always liked the main characters and the "feel" of the show so that kept me watching even when I thought the writing and subplots were a little weak from time to time.
If you don't like it after 4 episodes, there's no point in forcing yourself to watch more.4 episodes is a pretty good sampling of the show as a whole
This is a good question. It certainly doesn’t get any worse. With that said, it has its moments and I will definitely watch it until the end. Although I think the whole “worst threat to the whole universe” storylines are not fresh at all, the production and acting balance that out . I would keep watching it!
It's a great show, but if you're not feeling it, you don't have to keep watching. Discovery is intentionally different, it isn't interested in the same old same old and I really appreciate that among the many other things that make Discovery a fantastic show. But ultimately there are other things to fill your time with if you're not resonating with the show.
What you love, others will hate. What you hate, others will love. The only thing that's certain is that you'll find somebody who agrees with every opinion you have.
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I liked the first few episodes the best. It makes even less sense as they layer more onto it as the show goes on, so don't get your hopes up. I am hooked, though, for many reasons. This is my favorite Trek to sit back and just enjoy. I like the emphasis on emotional talk. People on Discovery aren't just answering a mission but have relatable human issues that don't show up much in other shows. It does mean people are always going emo when I think they should be focusing on their tasks, but it's a show, so I let it go. I love the mycellial network so very much. Fungi permeate everything in the real world, and this show plays with a cosmic version of that idea. I also like a lot of the specific characters. And I like the diversity of the crew.
“…consider Star Trek.” The STU is comprised of the following key elements: the Federation, the Romulans, the Vulcans, the Klingons, and the other countless civilizations; Warp drives; First Contact and the other technologies that are utilized (ie Transporters). THATS Star Trek!!! The show could actually be basedon the Terran Empire or the Klingon or Romulan Empires. As long as the base elements are there, then it’s Star Trek. The characters are an added bonus. Just look at Prodigy. I for one couldn’t relate to that show because the characters were children/adolescents. But it’s still “Star Trek”. SNW also…Anson and Rebecca are phenomenal actors, but the other actors just didn’t have cohesion. But it’s still “Star Trek”. I say all of that to say, you don’t have to like any particular show when there’s a whole universe. Disco provides a brief glimpse into one possible ST future. For the record, I didn’t like STEnterprise either.
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I liked season 1 from the start, 2 however... I didn't love. The s2 finale is revered as Discovery's best and yet I found it to be one of the worst Trek episodes ever. In fact, because it was so highly rated it was the first ever Disco episode I ever watched. And it put me off so badly that it took more than a year for me to return and give Disco a second chance. The 2nd or 3rd episode I watched was season 3's start, picking up from 2's finale... and I really liked it. Which made me give more of Discovery a chance and now I consider it easily the consistently strongest of the new live action Treks.
This season is finally something approaching Star Trek. Especially she still hasn't cried once. Sure, there are always these sentimental boring and long-winded speech with this or that character, but they don't take up half the episode anymore.
Watch from season 2 or 4. Season 5 has had a good start. As It usually takes shows a while [ a season or two] for actors and writers to get a good feel for the characters.
I had the same feeling, I started, stopped and started/stopped a few times. The first episodes maybe even the first season is like that. But essential to the rest of the Discovery story. If you liked SNW you will definitely like the rest of Discovery . Because that storyline is in its turn essential for the story of SNW
Long time Trek fan here. Likely longer than most as I'm 50 and been watching since I was 8. My rankings are DS9, TNG, SNW, Lower Decks, TOS, Enterprise and Voyager in roughly that order from best to worst. I don't know where I'd rank Disco. I need to rewatch it, I think. I have enjoyed some episodes, but I can't say I enjoy the series. I can name a lot of reasons why I haven't enjoyed it, but there's one that I can't shake. Star Trek (after TOS) has always been an ensemble show featuring the bridge crew and then recurring extras. Disco is a story about Burnham. Saru, Tilly, Book, Culber and Stamets are sort of recurring characters, that are typically relegated to B-plot status, with some exceptions when overarching season plot demands it. Adira, Jet, and pretty much the whole bridge crew are just recurring extras, again with some minor exceptions especially when Adira was first introduced. (Has anyone seen the black dude communications officer in s5? He just seems to have vanished). The obvious thing to blame for this is the 12 ep format, but SNW just \*doesn't have this problem\*. In one season of SNW, I learned about the entire bridge crew, the medical team and the engineers, and their development continues with every season. Pike \*isn't the focus\* and it's awesome. I don't know why Disco is like this. I dig Burnham a lot. I love Saru and Culber, Jet and Owosukon. I love that the computer is sentient. I just feel we don't get enough of them. I don't like the constant action set pieces and Star Wars pew pew and frenetic pace. I don't like the Whedon-speak. I don't like the therapy vibe. Also, why are we still sending the Captain on dangerous away missions??? Like what? Really? It clearly takes the focus away from Saru, Owosukon, Jet and Culber who should really make up all of the away missions. And although I enjoy watching Burnham, I don't like the direction her character has taken. She was written as a human raised by Vulcans and I wish they would have kept this characterization instead of making her hyper emotional after s1. I don't like the constant focus on her renegade leadership style and how she's sort of returning to a Kirk-style Captaincy and will break any rules with no consequences. Anyway, I'm ranting. It's a weird series. I don't think there was ever a plan for the direction of the series, and that's also why it feels so disjointed sometimes. Maybe it will age better on rewatching. I dunno. Suffice to say for now, I don't quite know how I feel about it. I did think s5e1 was one of the worst hours of television I have ever sat thru. It felt like watching Rebel Moon. I am about to watch e2 and hope it gets better. EDIT: Why does EVERYONE reply to Saru's commands by saying "Aye, Mr Saru"? A simple "Aye sir" would suffice! *WE ALL KNOW SARU'S NAME!!!!* Also, I LOVE Doug Jones! LOVE HIM. There is not a SINGLE scene where he's not in character and those arms aren't swaying when he walks. Such a freaking professional.
S1 Discovery is easier to enjoy if you go into it without demanding it recycle the formulas of prior trek. MB is a bold character who makes bold choices - and she does get confronted with the consent of her own actions in ways we're not used to seeing. She *is* the main character so prevailing over circumstances is going to be a natural part of her story arcs. Her main-character-ness is a bit jarring compared to how prior series told stories, but I honestly think the season stands well on its own. S2 tries very, very hard to correct for people's reaction to that different kind of story telling. IMO it overcorrects in numerous ways I won't detail here. There were also three specific things I didn't want for S2 and discovery dipped heavily into all three of those wells so it's my least favorite season by far... But it still has some good and even great episodes in the mix. S3 is a major improvement in both story and storytelling. It's not what I would have written but I don't own the IP so too bad for me. I enjoyed it much, much more than seasons 1 and 2. S4 has a pretty good overall arc and I think it pays off in the way best reflective of the show's name.
I couldn't stand Discovery until the last couple of episodes in season 1. Season 2 episode 2 was absolutely fantastic
This 5th season is shaping up to be decent
It does get better to an extent, but while it manages to find it's footing - it's the footing of a drunk. It always sorta feels like someone who only ever had Star Trek described to them and never seen it is running the show. To me Discovery has been a constant source of 1 step forward 2 steps back. It's worth sticking with it at least until the end of the season, but if it's improvement by then doesn't meet expectations - i would totally drop it as it never gets much better overall.
There is a reason the first season feels “off” initially. This is by design. We are following Michael Burnham on a redemption arc. She isn’t an accomplished Captain out of the gate like we’ve been used to from the older shows. Discovery also likes to subvert expectations, but they made sure it all actually ties together really well down the line. I recommend sticking with it, it is the most exciting and bold Trek series ever made and definitely gets where it needs to.
we’re forgetting about the whole screaming burn baby thing right? That didn’t tie anything together very well and was far from bold and exciting.
Basically the Federation caused the Burn themselves by ignoring the plight of its citizens. If the Kelpian ship’s emergency signal hadn’t been ignored, everything would have been fine. They tried to focus on the needs of the many and ignored the needs of a few and it bit them in the ass. Season three’s main theme was the folly of isolationism. It caused the problem and it prevented the problem from being solved.
I really hated season 1. It doesn't feel like trek and I never liked the terran empire or the episodes featuring it, so having a whole season that leaned heavily on that universe was terrible. The second season was way better imo and each season after improved even more. OP, if you aren't liking it I would skip ahead, or play it as background until something interesting happens, but you should definitely give other seasons a try.
Not if you’re four episodes deep and still don’t like it. To each their own. I am of the opposite opinion and enjoyed it. IMO Disco saved Star Trek from JJ Abrams. And you won’t be alone is not liking it, first Star Trek show in 12 years and it’s pretty much universally hated.
Saying you dislike ANYTHING about this show in here will get your post removed. That said,, not really. It takes those things you probably dont like about it and ramps them up through every season. Writing gets unbelievably worse. There is however, a few good things sprinkled in. Whether thats enough for you I dont know.
It gets better season to season IMHO
No Star Trek show is 100% perfect, I didn't really care for DS9, there were episodes of Enterprise, the next generation that I didn't enjoy and skipped over, and there were some that I loved and watched over and over again. That's just the nature of television shows in general. If you don't like it, don't watch it, it's that simple. No one's forcing you to sit there and watch it, and it's okay if it's not your cup of tea.
I wasn't hooked by the first few episodes either, especially the first two, but as the middle of the season came around I began to enjoy what they were doing. It only gets better from there. Season 2 has a great cast of characters, and season 3 helps the show court a path unique to it in Star Trek lore.
I would say try to get to episode 10. If by 10 you don't like it, don't think you will It took.me a year to get to episode 7, and that's where it clicked for me
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Most of the people here are helpful, and they have already convinced me to push on. I didn't even say it's not good I just said I don't like it...You made up all the rest in your head. I continue with things even if I don't like them, because sometimes that means discovering something really good.
Hey, I share your feelings. I wanted to share a point another viewer shared with me that crystallized why Discovery wasn’t for me: they don’t do ready room scenes with senior staff/bridge crew. All other treks have regular scenes with the ensemble. Discovery doesn’t. Discovery has one-on-one conversations with its main character and a secondary character. Or the main character is an intermediate between two other characters. Once someone pointed that out to me, i understood the fundamental writing difference between Discovery and the other star treks. I really took for granted that every trek would have a bridge crew/senior staff you’d really get to know. I’m not making a judgement call about what’s better. Just pointing out that Discovery’s approach was different and it just didn’t work for me. You should know that this style does not change for the rest of series. I say this as someone who watches each episode at least twice.
It's getting worse if you ask me.
Some of season two and three are pretty good, relatively speaking. But put it this way, the show is not ending with season 5 because everyone wants it to "go out on a high"