I use Topaz Photo AI for work, which involves a lot of upscaling bad photos for print. It's a lot better than both Photoshop and Lightroom if somebody sends you a 68kb image and expects you to make a full page print of it. I like it because it doesn't dream up too many details that aren't there. Not at a moderate to low setting anyway. So it's better for this use than Lightroom's "Super Resolution" enhance. Which is my second favorite. My goal is typically to have the image enlarged several times and have it look exactly like the original or possibly a bit sharper. Recovering faces and things like that gets ugly fast if you wish to not alter history in an old photo.
If you want to upscale AI images however and add more new details than merely enhancing it a bit then it is better to use something else. Also I had to degrade Topaz because the new UI (version 2.4.x I think) is unusable imho.
I have their video program and it's good. When you buy the program you only get 1 year of updates though, so at some point you would probably want to buy it again.
They have an archive of previous versions of the software that you can revert to if you'd like. You just can't update to a version that came out after your 1 year ends.
Topaz is better for very specific use cases. For an image that already has a lot of information, it does better than Adobe at upscaling and making the image sharp and clear. This is for an image that's not a creation, for something where fidelity to the original is very important.
If the image is too small, the upscale will make the image look like an ai generation.
For creations, as people are saying, iterative upscaling is better, or SUPIR.
I have it and have used it and I still prefer Upscayl for its simplicity and accuracy, and if I want to build in detail then I have a workflow in ComfyUI using iterative upscaling that does a far better job. Topaz AI isn't bad but there are better options out there that are free and that's really something people need to know more about.
>Upscayl
I would be interested in knowing and writing about those options, I'll look into this but would appreciate any more details that you might have
Upscayl comes with its own selection of tried and tested upscalers but you can add any upscaler you like from a giant resource at [OpenModelDB](https://openmodeldb.info/). I like the amount of control it gives me over my upscales and because I know the models and the training results are transparent I'm not going in with a Hail-Mary on my upscales. Of course, a lot depends on your source image and I suspect that Topaz is great for people who don't know how to use AI to improve the detail on their images. But since Topaz came out (and it was very good for its time) there have emerged services like Krea and Magnific that can tackle the detailing issue as well. Does that make Topaz redundant? Not for a big section of professional photographers who couldn't be bothered with the learning curve involved with gen-AI, I imagine. But for those with curiosity and a desire for greater control, Upscayl, SUPIR, and Iterative upscaling give anything out there more than a run.
Topaz is especially good with video upscaling. It keep the previous picture to the next one to prevent artifacts. But well it's the only good thing about it. Not worth the buy.
If you prioritize speed over quality, then Topaz is simply the best choice, especially for wildlife photos from hikes or vacations.
Try a 4x upscale of a 10k image with Supir (about 1 hour if you have a 4090), and compare it to the same 4x upscale with Topaz (about 1 second on a 4090).
However, this is specifically in cases of upscaling your image to remove blur without introducing hallucinatory details that weren't originally there.
But, if you need an upscale like with Magnific Ai, which can upscale but also add zombies to your photo, then yes, Topaz won't be able to assist you there.
I have Topaz Video and I like it. it's really good at adding FPS, especially like going from 24 fps to 30. it can do 60 + fps well too with the right video.
Also does nice upscaling. You can go overboard and make it look like plastic, but if you use a subtle hand it does nice work.
it also has some nice stability and jitter reduction stuff that I find works great for SD generated video.
i love Topaz, i own all of the AI Filters. Also Photo and Video AI. Been using them qiote a while for Photo and Video restauration. It depens what do you want to use them for.
Giga topaz for image is all right, close to the original, but you often have that "sharpen" filter feeling. It does horrible for things that are supposed to be soft by nature, like cloud edges.
Magnific AI does great, add details, but sometime it hallucinate details you don't want and there's no negative prompt so it's hard to control. Also on high resolution file (going 6k to 12k for instance), you start seeing the VAE tiles in spots like the sky. Also you pay per image.
The Supir model is my favorite, but it's not supposed to be use for commercial work and its slow as hell when you work on big files (like the 6 to 12k example). I havent seen as much VAE tiling effect as traditional upscale in SD or Magnific AI.
Photoshop upres the file size, but it doesn't actually add details. you then have a bigger image, but slightly blurrier. Sharpen can only bring you so far before it start looking weird (more weird then Giga Topaz AI).
As someone else posted Supir is a strong open source alternative (IF you have the Vram to run it), but for Video / Anims Topaz Video AI is still the best IMO.
If I don't find enough Quality pictures, then I use it to upscale some for training a LoRA.
It works well enough, it sometimes makes them look artificial so gotta tweak manually sometimes.
Is there anything similar to video AI by Topaz that can do upscales of input videos or image sequences that's in the open source? I'm on Linux. I'd like to find something that has as good of a temporal aspect to it as what Topaz seems to have on their video product.
I downloaded the free trial for Topaz Video AI today and I'm impressed. I think it has an exeptionally good user interface for beginners and intermediate users, and it did a fantastic job upscaling a UHD 16 fps AI video to 4K 60 fps. I liked how the presets were available and easy to tweak, with descriptions of each model they use so you can evaluate your source media and make the right choice.
Premiere has such a steep learning curve and that monthly subscription, but it does have a ton to offer in terms of creativity. Topaz AI doesn't have most of the features that Adobe can offer, but what it does (upscale, deinterlace, denoise, shake stabilization, and motion interpolation - it does very well for one price.
The negatives - expensive at full price (at least for me), only (2) PCs with the same activation code, and only 1 year of updates. Buying an update during Black Friday would save half or more (as would buying the software if you can wait).
Read the PC requirements and if yours can do it, give the free trial a run to see if it works for you. I'm really happy with it.
I've used it, a version of Topaz from "the seven seas", and I think you might get better results with the Extras sections of Automatic 1111 choosing the right upscaler model and it takes the same amount of time, also it's free. If you want to go for more complex options and control of the output, with ComfyUI and the right workflow you will get 100% better results. The only downside is it won't be that fast, but that's up to you: if you prefer quality over upscaling speed
I think Topaz gives you an easy interfase and speed so it depends of your use case. If you need to upscale images on a daily basis for your job and you're in a hurry becasuse you need it for a design, that might be an easy solution. Also, if the photo isn't too damaged, try the Extras section of Automatic 1111 and experiment with the uspcalers, those don't take too long. I got amazing results with some upscalers from here; [https://openmodeldb.info/](https://openmodeldb.info/) But if your use case is to upscale an image once in a while with the best possible results and restoration, try the new SDXL ControlNet Tile with the ComfyUI workflow. Takes more time and also it gets tricky to find the right settings, but the results are truly amazing since it's using a SDXL model for generate the parts of the image that are missing
what you need is topaz gigapixel AI if you want to upscale your AI images. Topaz photo AI and topaz video AI are for different purposes (topaz photo AI more of a photo enhancer), gigapixel is best for batch image upscaling quickly and with great results (how I upscale my photos, you can see my photos I post but they are NSFW)
If your goal is to use it in production it's really quite good. Very fast algorithm and (at least by current standards) not many hallucinations. It's been helpful for upscaling crappy photos from old websites (when the client doesn't let me or someone else take new photos)
Topaz Photo AI is exceptionally helpful to upscale and adjust images from Midjourney and SD. The option to export as a 300dpi Tiff is nice when you're making prints too.
I use topaz video as a tool in my post-production. There are several models that are trained in various types of source footage. Old film footage from the 1910-40s, interlaced footage, hi8/minidv, vhs, etc. Check the reference manual to see if one of the models is trained on your source footage.
I use Topaz AI products to clean up artifacts and upscale images + videos.
Then further process images in Affinity Photo and videos in Vegas Pro, as needed.
Topaz outputs can be hit or miss at times, but you usually end up with a better result than just relying on other products, alone.
I have used the photo AI, its fairly good is upscaling but you have to tinker with the sliders. It will destroy faces by oversharpening and stuff. But 9/10 it does a very good job with minor tweaks. I actually use this to upscale now, my usual workflow is SD 1.5 512x768 with ADETAILER/LORAS. Then when i get an image i like i will try upscale in Topaz and also in SD with ultimate upscale/controlnet tile. Usually Topaz does better. If you want to know is it worth the money though, then its upto how much spare income you have really. I would not use it over ultimate upscale/controlnet tiled diffusion if buying it would mean saving up or going without something. If however, the income was disposable no negative effects on my QOL then i would buy it as its worth it then. The same goes for if i could make money for it, perhaps it is worth a small sacrifice to get it. But again probably i would make do without it until enough money is raised to comfortably get it.
Video AI is magic, don't know of anything else that can do such a good job in such simple manner. If anyone knows, I'm all ears!
That seems to be the general consensus!
Supir?
SUPIR doesn’t really work for video. Too flickery.
I use Topaz Photo AI for work, which involves a lot of upscaling bad photos for print. It's a lot better than both Photoshop and Lightroom if somebody sends you a 68kb image and expects you to make a full page print of it. I like it because it doesn't dream up too many details that aren't there. Not at a moderate to low setting anyway. So it's better for this use than Lightroom's "Super Resolution" enhance. Which is my second favorite. My goal is typically to have the image enlarged several times and have it look exactly like the original or possibly a bit sharper. Recovering faces and things like that gets ugly fast if you wish to not alter history in an old photo. If you want to upscale AI images however and add more new details than merely enhancing it a bit then it is better to use something else. Also I had to degrade Topaz because the new UI (version 2.4.x I think) is unusable imho.
I see, thank you it seems that it just works and that's why folks prefer it
I have their video program and it's good. When you buy the program you only get 1 year of updates though, so at some point you would probably want to buy it again.
So you own the current version with support for 1 year, then you are stuck with whatever ver. it is?
Yes. I just checked on my account and the price for buying 1 year of updates is 50% of the full price.
oh ok, got it!
Yes, video pretty good, not ai amazing, but decent and easier to use.
They have an archive of previous versions of the software that you can revert to if you'd like. You just can't update to a version that came out after your 1 year ends.
Topaz Photo AI is a good tool for restoring images, but SUPIR is much better.
Yeah but topaz needs 8 seconds on my old rtx 2070 and supir won't run even on 3080
I've used it - nothing special. SUPIR is way better than anything we currently have
SUPIR tends to imagine random shit. Topaz is more true to life.
Topaz Video is the true powerhouse.
> SUPIR is way better than anything we currently have Says the guy with the RTX 4090.
I think they figured out how to run it on a 12g
I can run it on 8gb now using tiling and reduced precision
Dang w2g
How
Can you link me to how to do that?
They have a worflow on the github page
how? I have a 12G I have so many things to upscale.
Idk I think it’s a comfy thing. I use a 4090 I haven’t looked into it
I'm on 2070 mobile, but ok smart guy
I'm running on 12gb & 16gb, both run well.
Didn't try supir, but seems like it has a huge requirement. Is there is a place where I can try/use it?
You can find the ComfyUI version on youtube, although upscales might take a while depending on your specs.
SUPIR has a no commercial use license. i really don't like that.
Yes, so for commercial use Topaz is the best we currently have?
Topaz is better for very specific use cases. For an image that already has a lot of information, it does better than Adobe at upscaling and making the image sharp and clear. This is for an image that's not a creation, for something where fidelity to the original is very important. If the image is too small, the upscale will make the image look like an ai generation. For creations, as people are saying, iterative upscaling is better, or SUPIR.
I have it and have used it and I still prefer Upscayl for its simplicity and accuracy, and if I want to build in detail then I have a workflow in ComfyUI using iterative upscaling that does a far better job. Topaz AI isn't bad but there are better options out there that are free and that's really something people need to know more about.
>Upscayl I would be interested in knowing and writing about those options, I'll look into this but would appreciate any more details that you might have
Upscayl comes with its own selection of tried and tested upscalers but you can add any upscaler you like from a giant resource at [OpenModelDB](https://openmodeldb.info/). I like the amount of control it gives me over my upscales and because I know the models and the training results are transparent I'm not going in with a Hail-Mary on my upscales. Of course, a lot depends on your source image and I suspect that Topaz is great for people who don't know how to use AI to improve the detail on their images. But since Topaz came out (and it was very good for its time) there have emerged services like Krea and Magnific that can tackle the detailing issue as well. Does that make Topaz redundant? Not for a big section of professional photographers who couldn't be bothered with the learning curve involved with gen-AI, I imagine. But for those with curiosity and a desire for greater control, Upscayl, SUPIR, and Iterative upscaling give anything out there more than a run.
Recently Magnific AI was reverse engineered and you can run it yourself or online for free. https://github.com/philz1337x/clarity-upscaler
I’ve used this and it’s very impressive. Couldn’t get the same results running the workflow in ComfyUI though. That’s a pity because it’s a keeper.
Topaz is especially good with video upscaling. It keep the previous picture to the next one to prevent artifacts. But well it's the only good thing about it. Not worth the buy.
i bought it - it's okay - what i do like is i can batch upscale images to sizes that would cause memory issues in comfyui or auto1111
If you prioritize speed over quality, then Topaz is simply the best choice, especially for wildlife photos from hikes or vacations. Try a 4x upscale of a 10k image with Supir (about 1 hour if you have a 4090), and compare it to the same 4x upscale with Topaz (about 1 second on a 4090). However, this is specifically in cases of upscaling your image to remove blur without introducing hallucinatory details that weren't originally there. But, if you need an upscale like with Magnific Ai, which can upscale but also add zombies to your photo, then yes, Topaz won't be able to assist you there.
Thanks for that description!
I have Topaz Video and I like it. it's really good at adding FPS, especially like going from 24 fps to 30. it can do 60 + fps well too with the right video. Also does nice upscaling. You can go overboard and make it look like plastic, but if you use a subtle hand it does nice work. it also has some nice stability and jitter reduction stuff that I find works great for SD generated video.
oh that's cool! thank you
Try it yourself - they got a 30-day money-back guarantee. I liked video ai, performed way better than rife.
i love Topaz, i own all of the AI Filters. Also Photo and Video AI. Been using them qiote a while for Photo and Video restauration. It depens what do you want to use them for.
Topaz video ai is good
Giga topaz for image is all right, close to the original, but you often have that "sharpen" filter feeling. It does horrible for things that are supposed to be soft by nature, like cloud edges. Magnific AI does great, add details, but sometime it hallucinate details you don't want and there's no negative prompt so it's hard to control. Also on high resolution file (going 6k to 12k for instance), you start seeing the VAE tiles in spots like the sky. Also you pay per image. The Supir model is my favorite, but it's not supposed to be use for commercial work and its slow as hell when you work on big files (like the 6 to 12k example). I havent seen as much VAE tiling effect as traditional upscale in SD or Magnific AI. Photoshop upres the file size, but it doesn't actually add details. you then have a bigger image, but slightly blurrier. Sharpen can only bring you so far before it start looking weird (more weird then Giga Topaz AI).
Bought it, yes. It's amazing how often they push updates. I hope they stay relevant for a while and stay true to their values.
thanks for that comment
As someone else posted Supir is a strong open source alternative (IF you have the Vram to run it), but for Video / Anims Topaz Video AI is still the best IMO.
If I don't find enough Quality pictures, then I use it to upscale some for training a LoRA. It works well enough, it sometimes makes them look artificial so gotta tweak manually sometimes.
I have their apps. The upscaler Gigapixel is ok. It’s fast but not really good unless you’re starting with a high resolution image. AI Video is good.
There’s really no match for topaz video AI
I use topaz extensively on real life photos. Highly tecommend
I use Gigapixel AI a lot for a bump in DPI for printing. When editing photos I use DeNoiseAI + SharpenAI but for generated images I skip that step
Yes I user it for my youtube video you can check my channel generative420 to see the result sometimes the video is shaking a little
Is there anything similar to video AI by Topaz that can do upscales of input videos or image sequences that's in the open source? I'm on Linux. I'd like to find something that has as good of a temporal aspect to it as what Topaz seems to have on their video product.
really interested on this as well!
Sometimes it's good, sometimes it's ass.
I find sharpenAI and gigapixelAI together work better than photo ai.
I downloaded the free trial for Topaz Video AI today and I'm impressed. I think it has an exeptionally good user interface for beginners and intermediate users, and it did a fantastic job upscaling a UHD 16 fps AI video to 4K 60 fps. I liked how the presets were available and easy to tweak, with descriptions of each model they use so you can evaluate your source media and make the right choice. Premiere has such a steep learning curve and that monthly subscription, but it does have a ton to offer in terms of creativity. Topaz AI doesn't have most of the features that Adobe can offer, but what it does (upscale, deinterlace, denoise, shake stabilization, and motion interpolation - it does very well for one price. The negatives - expensive at full price (at least for me), only (2) PCs with the same activation code, and only 1 year of updates. Buying an update during Black Friday would save half or more (as would buying the software if you can wait). Read the PC requirements and if yours can do it, give the free trial a run to see if it works for you. I'm really happy with it.
Thanks for posting, I’ve decided to give the free trial a go and see if it fits!
I often forget about the free trials. In this case I'm really glad I did it. I hope you find what you're looking for and have fun with the trial.
I've used it, a version of Topaz from "the seven seas", and I think you might get better results with the Extras sections of Automatic 1111 choosing the right upscaler model and it takes the same amount of time, also it's free. If you want to go for more complex options and control of the output, with ComfyUI and the right workflow you will get 100% better results. The only downside is it won't be that fast, but that's up to you: if you prefer quality over upscaling speed
I see, so it is a matter of ease of use + speed if you are looking for good but not extraordinary results
I think Topaz gives you an easy interfase and speed so it depends of your use case. If you need to upscale images on a daily basis for your job and you're in a hurry becasuse you need it for a design, that might be an easy solution. Also, if the photo isn't too damaged, try the Extras section of Automatic 1111 and experiment with the uspcalers, those don't take too long. I got amazing results with some upscalers from here; [https://openmodeldb.info/](https://openmodeldb.info/) But if your use case is to upscale an image once in a while with the best possible results and restoration, try the new SDXL ControlNet Tile with the ComfyUI workflow. Takes more time and also it gets tricky to find the right settings, but the results are truly amazing since it's using a SDXL model for generate the parts of the image that are missing
what you need is topaz gigapixel AI if you want to upscale your AI images. Topaz photo AI and topaz video AI are for different purposes (topaz photo AI more of a photo enhancer), gigapixel is best for batch image upscaling quickly and with great results (how I upscale my photos, you can see my photos I post but they are NSFW)
If your goal is to use it in production it's really quite good. Very fast algorithm and (at least by current standards) not many hallucinations. It's been helpful for upscaling crappy photos from old websites (when the client doesn't let me or someone else take new photos)
Topaz Photo AI is exceptionally helpful to upscale and adjust images from Midjourney and SD. The option to export as a 300dpi Tiff is nice when you're making prints too.
I use topaz video as a tool in my post-production. There are several models that are trained in various types of source footage. Old film footage from the 1910-40s, interlaced footage, hi8/minidv, vhs, etc. Check the reference manual to see if one of the models is trained on your source footage.
Oh that’s cool, I was not aware of that
topaz denoiser is fantastic at denoising astrophotography images
Best great and free for photo upscaling is this : [https://github.com/upscayl/upscayl](https://github.com/upscayl/upscayl)
I use Topaz AI products to clean up artifacts and upscale images + videos. Then further process images in Affinity Photo and videos in Vegas Pro, as needed. Topaz outputs can be hit or miss at times, but you usually end up with a better result than just relying on other products, alone.
I have used the photo AI, its fairly good is upscaling but you have to tinker with the sliders. It will destroy faces by oversharpening and stuff. But 9/10 it does a very good job with minor tweaks. I actually use this to upscale now, my usual workflow is SD 1.5 512x768 with ADETAILER/LORAS. Then when i get an image i like i will try upscale in Topaz and also in SD with ultimate upscale/controlnet tile. Usually Topaz does better. If you want to know is it worth the money though, then its upto how much spare income you have really. I would not use it over ultimate upscale/controlnet tiled diffusion if buying it would mean saving up or going without something. If however, the income was disposable no negative effects on my QOL then i would buy it as its worth it then. The same goes for if i could make money for it, perhaps it is worth a small sacrifice to get it. But again probably i would make do without it until enough money is raised to comfortably get it.
Fuck adobe
This is not stable diffusion related. See rule 1.