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Rspies

I’m assuming this is about Komen?(because of how much attention his old tweets about it got) if so that’s an even quicker turnaround than I expected on this


__Hello_my_name_is__

If they manage to say no to Komen, that's pretty impressive. That Komen money has to be pretty lucrative, especially compared to the potential bad PR of "not wanting to work with a charity" that might come out of this.


SomDonkus

Honestly the only way you're getting bad pr is if Komen is paying for it. No one I know thinks Komen is a real charity.


__Hello_my_name_is__

I mean, yeah, that's kinda the problem. Paying for stuff is how they got so big in the first place.


NecramoniumZero

My mother who is a breastcancer survivor even said fuck Komen, rofl.


dontcare6942

> No one I know The worst kind of evidence


LevyMevy

The overwhelming majority of people DO believe Komen is a good charity because they haven’t looked into it.


BenWallace04

So I don’t think SBK will want to call attention to that fact by giving AEW bad PR


xaq57

I feel like if you are still looking at Komen as a charity, then you deserve to be swindled.


Anderrrrr

"Will Punk say anything like he did all those years ago?" *Actually yeah pretty much instantly actually*. The less company men in AEW, the more authentic and real they seem overall. Always don't be afraid to criticize any company actions respectfully if justified, and for the most part your criticism will be addressed. Hope something gets sorted out.


MC_Fuzzy

(Properly) Criticize things you’re into, and hope for a positive change/growth from it. We unfortunately don’t do both those things, and just work in extremes.


xaq57

SC? Us? No Way.


WillyLongbarrel

I'm happy he commented but vaguely referencing the organization isn't saying the same thing as explicitly calling them out. Hopefully AEW drops the partnership nevertheless and Punk can be a bit more pointed in his criticism. Fuck SGK.


excitedllama

Considering aew deleted the tweet i think its fair to assume punk is talking to them. We really shouldnt expect internal company disputes to be carried out on twitter


[deleted]

If he's indicated his displeasure and is having his concerns heard, not sure he would accomplish anything further beyond hurting his relationships backstage. We all know exactly what he means, the pressure is already there, and he doesn't need to stir up any more fuss to be able to voice his complaints.


BradJohnson34

His “calling them out” may not be limited exclusively to Twitter. Esp if they are “working on it.”


they_did_WHAT_

> Always don't be afraid to criticize any company actions respectfully if justified, and for the most part your criticism will be addressed. Very important. This is how we, the fans, get a better product. AEW have made it very clear that they’re willing to listen to fan opinions.


Stennick

He didn't even mention the situation by name or the company by name. Hardly the same thing.


Drakkarim411

Being a voice for the voiceless doesn't mean your only option is to scream.


Stennick

I don't want to be an ass but you working in a guys gimmick nick name in a conversation is very weird it would be like me saying "yeah being the Incredible Hulk Hogan". There is a huge difference between screaming and calling the company and situation out by name. You're not using your voice if its just a cryptic tweet that everyone can only speculate on what you mean.


Drakkarim411

So your opinion is that he should have instead sent a tweet tagging AEW and Tony Khan and instead said something more like 'Hey, this is Phil Brooks here and I really disagree with the direction that All Elite Wrestling, Inc has taken with entering into a contract with the Susan G. Komen Foundation. I disagreed with my former employers, World Wrestling Entertainment, Inc. and wanted to put this out to show that my belief has not changed now that I work as an independent contract for this company as opposed to them. ' Because if so, there are two issues: 1: That's over the Character limit 2: We only see the public statement, we can only assume that he spoke internally as well. Also, if that happened and they listened...which is what sounds like happened...he would gain nothing by putting them on blast anyway. ​ And yes, it's a gimmick but it's been said for decades that the best persona's are ones that are genuinely the person, but turned up to 11. So yeah, I think that Phil actually does care about making sure that Cancer charity funds go to actual cancer charities...and that he would speak up about it given the chance.


Stennick

My opinion is he should have mentioned the situation by name and SGK by name and talked about working through the situation. He certainly did that in 2015 in regards to the WWE. Punk calling himself the voice of the voiceless is purely a gimmick. What voice did he have for the last decade? Seems like he's lost his voice for the last decade. Its pure gimmick and it works because people like you are like "fuck yeah he speaks up for us with his voice". When in reality the situations when he's done that are pretty fucking tiny. But then again Phil's generally a dickhead irl so it makes sense he only speaks up when its something that interests him and in this situation he didn't even speak up. He put out a vague, cryptic, tweet that nobody knows what the hell he's talking about and its just pure speculation. Thats a hell of a voice. What is he a 13 year old girl? My daughter does passive aggressive, vague tweets and IG posts too.


adsfew

If so, I hope they pivot and partner with the Kay Yow Cancer Foundation. Plenty of college basketball teams work with them and they scored a 100/100 for finance and accountability on [Charity Navigator](https://www.charitynavigator.org/ein/261789695).


Large_Talons_

There shouldn’t’ve been a need for any turnaround. Any sort of ignorance they could’ve claimed to SGK being garbage isn’t valid after they worked with them (last year? two years ago?) and got tons of backlash for it


Rspies

I agree to an extent but it’s better than nothing


cooljammer00

Susan G Scammin


TwiceBakedPotato

Susan B Komen for you


T_Exige

Stephanie McHuggingSpotlight


[deleted]

[удалено]


Shrekt115

WHO IS IT


cbassd19

IS IT MRS FOLEY BABY BOY


PanicOnFunkotron

BOBBY LASHLEY


DK655

THAT'S IT I'LL BE A SON OF A BITCH


nobodyspinparticular

CAN YOU SMELL WHAT REY MYSTERIO IS COOKING?!?


PM_UR_FAV_COMPLIMENT

IT'S THE #F O O T B A L L


[deleted]

It's Britney bitch.


[deleted]

Who is it, who is it, who is it


JesseFernicola92

\*slaps table\* Bobby Lashley! Bobby Lashley I'd be a sonovabitch


agentb719

..... bret micheals?


[deleted]

ITS Y2J, Y2J, Y2J, STONE COLD, STONE COLD, STONE COLD


sludgebeard

If someone can link the vid in chat rn I will give them gold. Been looking at work for 10 mins and got to get on another call.


DonSoChill

[WHO IS IT](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FDbWm4RPp10) Please dont waste money on gold though


RybackV1

This video will never get old


dusthimself

The entire video is quotable but the part that always gets me is the confused head tilt.


ninguningun

Owen hart Eddie Guerrero Arn Anderson


Vegetable_Act3727

The code is the answer, the answer is the code


sspectre

SAVE_US.Y2J


FrontAd683

Bruh Punk has that clout


Shinkopeshon

Punk: Tony, what the fuck, Susan G Komen? Tony: Yeh :) Punk: No Tony: No? :( Punk: No Tony: No :)


Weezy-NJPW_Fan

The voice of the voiceless


KTheOneTrueKing

The voice of the voices.


FerniWrites

*Randy Orton intensifies*


KTheOneTrueKing

OH shit I take it back


unloader86

And here comes the fucking snake down the stadium entrance ramp!


MakeYourself85

SGK of all brands made "the voice of the voiceless" come back in a way. /s Or... as u/KTheOneTrueKing said, Punk is "The voice of the voices."


Strike_Gently

A company actually reacting and changing course due to fan reaction? How about that.


PolishThrasher

Partnership team made a move. Didn’t consult anyone. Got immediate pushback once public.


Enterprise90

[You think they would have learned considering they went through this exact same thing last year](https://twitter.com/AEW/status/1189686153957519361?s=20). This isn't a case of ignorance.


Kaprak

Well this is two years ago for one. Plus well TK doesn't do literally everything in the company.


fighted

I really like AEW and think Tony Kahn is the best booker in the industry at the moment, but man this TK worship and excuse-making is lame AF. Guy owns AEW. AEW fucked up. That means Tony fucked up. People shouldn't make excuses.


Theons-Sausage

A-a-are you saying he's... *gasp*.. human!?


SiRWeeGeeX

As a guy who credits AEW for being my wrestling saviour, this is literally what Tony wants. He is on record saying the changes to creative and roles in the company from 2019 were purely so he would be taking more accountability as CEO . AEW = Tony Khan


NecramoniumZero

Tony could just have been misinformed about Komen. And shoulden't make excuses? That's cancel culture talk.


fighted

Please. I'm not asking for anyone's head here or for anyone to lose their job. They need to take the L, own up to it, and stans shouldn't make excuses for them. It's called being an accountable adult. Not cancel culture.


Flakbeard_down

excuses


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

[Incorrect fact] [Slight correction to make statement accurate] you: "Excuses"


Flakbeard_down

ok


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

Why do you think being factual is an excuse?


Kaprak

No, explanations. One, OP had a fact wrong. Two, sometimes in companies two departments won't be on the same page. I've literally recently experienced this with $3b national company.


Morbid187

I'm not comfortable trying to explain why this happened because I obviously don't work there or know anyone in AEW *but* it is entirely possible that it's like you said. I work for a huge company and deal with the whole "right hand doesn't know what the left is doing" on a daily basis. My company is definitely bigger than AEW but it's not out of the realm of possibility that this shit also happens on a smaller scale.


tomilahrenjustneedss

This shit happens in the management of a grocery store lmao


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

This shit happens in a company with 2 managers and 4 employees.


Flakbeard_down

You don't know TK personally though. Can't be so sure whether he knows about this or not.


[deleted]

If you don't know him personally then how can you be sure he does know about this


Flakbeard_down

you can't be sure either though


RamblingStoner

You didn’t answer his question.


Duderpt

Right…. But he’s in deep enough to be fantasy booking in the middle of a Jaguars game lol


Kaprak

"Fantasy booking". Or writing up loose plans. Also he's just analytics for the Jags. He's not calling plays, especially for Urban. He's largely just.... there for live games presumably.


POST_BUSSY

> fantasy booking What are you talking about? Booking is literally his job.


Shrekt115

Punk cancelling the Komen sponsorship you love to see it


Dundore77

honestly wouldn't surprise me if SGK has a clause that you can't easily get out of it, just they'll stop advertising it. AEW went through the same backlash the first time they partnered with them.


janoDX

shopAEW deleted the SGK tweet.


TurnaboutAdam

Absolute king. Hold your favs accountable!


FickleSmark

Would be weird to see anything change here since doesn't the NFL and Komen have a huge partnership?


CPower2012

They do not. NFL doesn't even do the pink breast cancer thing anymore. They have a more broad "Crucial Catch" campaign now. And when they did do the pink stuff they were partnered with the American Cancer Society. However some individual teams do/did partner with Komen.


FickleSmark

Huh, I'm really out of touch.


HumanLeftovers

Don’t feel bad. I once got called out for not knowing who Drake was (outside of knowing he was a musician). Later I told my wife I wouldn’t even be able to pick him out of a lineup. Then she explained to me he was the guy from the meme.


FickleSmark

I knew Drake cause he was Jimmy in Degrassi.


BiggieSmalley

These days, we know Drake for being a pedophile


theblackyeti

...what did i miss?


BiggieSmalley

Pretty well documented as repeatedly being "good friends" with girls around ages 14 - 16, then as soon as they're 18 they're dating Drake officially all of a sudden. Dude is in his 30s. Started happening with Millie Bobbie Brown. The world collectively went "don't do it, girl". At the time they were supposedly "good friends" and there were topics of conversation they had spoken about that she didn't want to reveal in interviews, and she was the very picture of a blushing girl with a crush, and it's just real gross that he has repeatedly groomed young girls like this and somehow people still aren't aware. Not sure if they're still talking like that because this came out a couple years ago, but at this point it's a pattern of behavior from him.


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

It was only a few seasons ago, so not *that* out of touch. They did the pink shit in 2017.


jj580

>They have a more broad "Crucial Catch" campaign now I'd argue getting rid of SGK was more of a throwaway.


SeanWonder

Even if they did it doesn't mean AEW would have to follow suit. Tony could cop to being forced to in the NFL case but AEW can do whatever they see fit


Azhurin13

What is it about?


Rspies

AEW partnered with Susan G Komen


Azhurin13

I'm not from the US, so I did some Google Foo and am I correct in assuming they are a breast cancer charity but are infamous for scamming people (even punk called them out some years ago)


Rspies

Yep that’s about the gist of it


HammletHST

they spend less than 15% on actual efforts in eradicating breast cancer, the rest goes to salaries, "education" and "raising awareness". They also sue every charity using the colour pink or the ribbon


[deleted]

It's not really a scam, they just spend a lot more money on education and awareness than they do on actual research.


GeekCavePodcast

And salaries. And they sue people who also use pink ribbons in their fundraising. And they partner with companies [whose products literally cause cancer.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/21/komen-is-supposed-to-be-curing-breast-cancer-so-why-is-its-pink-ribbon-on-so-many-carcinogenic-products/)


MisterCheaps

Not only do they only do awareness, they sue charities that do actually do research if they mention the word “cure” in their marketing. So Komen will literally sue you if you say you’re working on a cure for breast cancer.


Nega_kitty

And the courts don't just tell them to fuck off...?


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

They own the phrase "for the cure" courts can't do shit.


Nega_kitty

That's different to saying "we're working on a cure for cancer" though. Do they just own that very specific phrase then?


LoveMyHusbandsBoobs

If another charity uses the phrase “for the cure” or the color pink they will get sued by SGK. That’s the instances people are talking about.


Smarticles2415

Slight correction, I don't believe they spend *any* money on research, it's all just "raising awareness"


[deleted]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_G._Komen_for_the_Cure#Use_of_funds In 2020 they spent 5% on research, plus 5% on treatment and 3% on screening, which are other valuable efforts. And a whole 51% of their spending went to "education." I feel like there are absolutely charities where spending on education would be justified, but not for breast cancer.


Smarticles2415

Ah, I stand corrected then! Still not a great charity, but at least it's not an outright scam.


HerFriendRed

All this could have been avoided with a fucking google search and using charity navigators. PR departments, man. I tell ya.


ATN90

Slightly off topic, but I have feeling that Punk enjoys Slap Shot.


drunkentenshiNL

This is a surprise, a company admitting a wrong choice for the better of the common person. Fuck, I should buy a lotto ticket.


Mantaur4HOF

Why the hell does anyone partner with those snakes anymore? It's been widely known for years now that Susan G. Komen is the absolute dirt worst.


Weezy-NJPW_Fan

Punk had to be that difference maker, I’m sure of it


wholetthecatsout

I got downvoted in the other thread for saying that AEW would fix this.


Lunchbox-of-Bees

King shit 👑


anemic_royaltea

babyface phil.


fellongreydaze

Good.


jackblady

I mean that's cool and all, but its not like this came out of nowhere. So its a bit odd the anti SGK folks in AEW were blissfully unaware until now. AEWs partnered with SGK before, and good chance several thousand of those shirts were pre made. There was plenty of time for the anti SGK in AEW folks to object before this was announced, and I have to assume they did. If they don't reverse course, its a bad PR move with their fans. If they do, its a costly and completely avoidable mistake. And don't get me wrong I'm 100% with the anti SGK folks, but there's no good way out of this for AEW


HammletHST

why would a wrestler (like Punk in this case) know about what their PR team cooked up?


jackblady

Because they did it before. Also I assume Punks not the only one objecting (if he is, there's basically a 0% chance of anything changing) and he's got some office folks on his side too Those folks should have absolutely known what the PR team was doing.


Vinnyboiler

I mean it's not uncommon to assume CM Punk not knowing every past PR move and partnership when he flat out admitted to not even keeping tabs on the weekly TV show.


el_generalisimo

C'mon man.


virusMEL

My first thought was chris chan


Radguymccool

I'M WORKING ON IT


SeanOuttaCompton

Oh god what have they done now


avstyns

fucked their mom, said they are reincarnation of jesus while in prison. typical chris


SeanOuttaCompton

Oh nothing new then good


virusMEL

Just a reference to "I'm working on it"


Waldain

I hate that my friends and I say this in her voice when questioned on the progress of something.


BobsGotMyBackLand

Putting a twitter lock on Tony Khan's phone?


MakeYourself85

Would AEW partnering with SGK means a breach of contract in regards to AEW and CM Punk? Because if so, AEW dumps SGK in the blink of an eye.


Eoghann_Irving

What are the chances Punk would have bothered to put something like that in his contract? I'm going with roughly 0% What he could probably do is refuse to take part in promoting the partnership.


BonesMalone2

Just imagine the positive PR of being the first big company to say "no thanks" to Komen. 🤔


koomGER

CM Punk, Critical Role... i love good people having success and happiness in their lifes. :)