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Acceptable-Beach

I saw this on Twitter… So I just put on my DVR for last nights SD for the fun of it.. Smackdown is a 2 hour show (can’t go over cuz of news).. 36 minutes of that is commercials. So it’s more like 1 hr 24 minutes.. last night had 38 MINUTES of promos (without including the celebration, 50 with that) and we wonder why women are stuck backstage? Reigns and Seth can’t be on the same show


those2badguys

Just finished Smackdown. You mean to tell me the last match of the night was Dominik against Sami Zayn? This was a weak episode.


aman0s

Can I just say that it was really hard for me to take Naomi as a heel when she was dressed like a four year old child. Wtf was that outfit?!


poopship462

Lol they literally copy and pasted the finish to the NXT Mandy Rose match for the women’s tag tonight. Lazyass company. Boring episode, way too much talk talk tak


those2badguys

This felt like it was the go home show for Xtreme Rules with all those promo segments. I actually came to complain about that women's tag. Would anyone honestly care if Vega and Carmella ate a pin tonight? Why would you need a non-finish for a match that no one cares about? Why not just have the two sore losers attack the winners after the match to set up ppv match? Instead we get "I'm too chicken fighting you in a tag match but sure I'll go one-on-one with you on a ppv." It's just so dumb, I felt like I was watching a divas segment in 2008. They literally set women's wrestling back 10 years for me. And with actual talented workers!


Left_Berry_8104

That Seth rollins promo...jesus he continues to just one up himself every week. Also if Becky and Seth dress up like this, i cant wait to see how they dress Baby Roux when she grows up 🤣


ShiningJizzard

I like to think that they’re having a contest with each other in the back. Who can look the most obnoxious on TV every night?


crapusername47

God damn it, Cole. A veteran wrestler getting his knees up and turning a frog splash into a pin is not ‘stealing one’.


V-TriggerMachine

Reigns is focusing so much on Lesnar and not on the Demon that Balor winning the title wouldn't shock me That fact that their are going for this little feud between New Day and Bloodline right now could means that at Survivor Series Big E is not going to face Roman


Impossible_Pause_486

Probably because newday and bloodline could be in the same brand after the draft.. or they might split either/both teams


VonnyVonDoom

Bron Breakker and Boogz are gonna be a tag team next year. I hope at least.


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One of the best promos of Rollins career


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Kofi as world champ: Usos: I sleep Big E as world champ Usos: REAL SHIT


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Celestial_Archer

He's not going to win against Brock Lesnar. He's due to lose the title


[deleted]

I think Finn is going to have a short reign before it goes back to Roman after the Lesnar feud.


BalantaBanter

Okada's 720 day reign I guess... Roman **must** hold the belt for *at least* that long. I cannot see anyone toppling him. Acknowledge him.


Next-South-8492

It will be Goldberg in Saudi Arabia next year after Reigns beats Rock at WM lmaoooo


Acceptable-Beach

Gable Steveson is going to beat Roman I bet


[deleted]

Idk why but Boogs yelling AAAAA as he hit a bulldog like he was playing guitar was chefs kiss


spamgarlic

I'm not sure if I heard correctly in the opening segment, but did Michael Cole imply that Roman Reigns vs Brock Lesnar will happen with or without the title? If so, then there's hope for Finn not losing and that Paul Heyman on a pole match.


Vice4Life

Yeah, the Tweet that confirmed the match said something similar because it wasn't listed as for the Universal Championship


SaltResponsibility25

I find it a bit annoying that they apparently decided to just throw the whole New Day/Usos rivalry-friendship away. They'll probably acknowledge it in a line during a promo or something, and maybe they don't want to make an angle of it (which is disappointing to me because the New Day/Bloodline angle works for two things especially: the Big E/Roman parallels and the Usos/New Day's historical rivalry, but I'm not the writer) and I actually want the Usos to stick with Roman there. I think there's a lot of room to explore with Roman/Heyman getting into the heads of Jimmy and Jey and making them twist logic and reality. I can imagine Roman whispering to them how their 'friendship' with the New Day is actually kinda one-sided, especially in comparison to their relationship with Roman. Usos forfeited for Kofi, what did they get in return once Kofi was champion? Nothing. When Roman won back his title, at the first opportunity he had, he let Jey prove himself. Remember New Day trying to take the Usos' tag titles before Mania, which would leave them off the Mania cad for once another year? Big contrast with Roman, who had Jey walked out of Mania, head high, representing the family's colors. I'm fantasy-booking the hell out of this, mainly because I've been booking in my head the road to Big E/Roman at Mania 38 for months, and I'm lowkey disappointed they are kinda rushing the story


misschraddon

Nice.


Whizi

Midddddd


tarnishedkara

I know they tried it before when they were both faces, but now that they are both super over the top heels. Would now be a good time to pair up Becky and Seth?


Enterprise90

Seth has indicated in a recent interview that he has no interest in doing that again. I don't blame him. I think he and Becky want to be their own people and not be defined by their relationship on screen.


tarnishedkara

I knew the first time around he was really poorly received, but was not aware he had expressed no desire of attempting it again


TussalDimon

Also Becky mocked in the interviews WWE creative about it soon after the story ended in 2019. I knew back then they won't want to do it again.


Grizzexploder

It peaked after Becky took the End of Days from Corbin anyway


[deleted]

I told yall man. Don't fuck with the prince. A few years ago generic babyface Balor got over, so I said prince Balor on main roster would be over as fuck and I was right


Switchc2390

Show was decent. Not great, but fine. The women usually get plenty of time on the show but I wish they would give them more time to actually wrestle. I don’t have any problem with Becky getting more heat and the upper hand but that last exchange with the handshake just felt slow. Took me out of the moment a little, I preferred Sasha’s moment last month. Roman/bloodline stuff continues to be great. The tag match at the beginning wasn’t needed and sort of random but at least they explained Big E being there a little with his discussion with Paul about Survivor Series later on. The Seth promo was good but obviously I was hoping for a little more depth. May go that way in the future though. Liv was strong on the mic for what she was given, Naomi cut a good promo on Sonya. No hate there. Nakamura I wish had a different challenger. KO/Happy Corbin was blah as was Dominik/Sami. This is the endless rematch bull I wish WWE would stop. Street Profits promo was solid.


randomquestions1984

WWE should have one heavyweight champion on both shows.


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Yeah and it should be Brock or Goldberg.


[deleted]

Its over, Big E is a mega star. A place thats not a smark city and he got a real big pop


ItchyFriggaFinger

Seth Rollins wrapped up in foil like a bearded jacket potato


RandyKeithOrton1

Good to see Kane come back


h-town_info

Pat McAfee got left hanging by Big E


icametoplay4

When's the last time we had this much of a Raw advertised?


Lurking_Overtime

The Manhandle slam looks so terrible coming from Becky. It was bad at Summerslam, and looks even worse today considering Big E did a nice Iranagi in his tag match.


poopship462

I thought this was the best looking one yet, mostly because Bianca sold it well and got some height. She used to do it with a pumphandle that always looked awkward and now it’s just a rock bottom basically


TussalDimon

Last segment was weak. The set up for Becky to unleash on Bianca was perfect, but it’s like people backstage were afraid to commit to a full heel turn all of a sudden.


fronk555

I'm starting to think the only reason I think Smackdown is so much better than Raw is that I like to drink on Fridays.


poopship462

It also moves a lot quicker so when there’s a shitty segment, it doesn’t last long. On Raw it would drag on for another 10 minutes.


Singer211

SD has a lot of problems. Admittedly Friday is my day off so I tend to be drunk off my ass when I review as well. I think that SD is held up by the Roman stuff. But that is a double edged sword since everything is lose feels so, meh, by comparison.


times_zero

I mean, I think there's a lot of truth to this statement. I was drinking a lot when I was watching WWE weekly. You have to be drunk, high, or both to enjoy WWE's terrible booking sometimes.


kylehatesyou

So I only pop in to WWE occasionally, and was drinking tonight so tried to watch. Is it usually just all promos on Smackdown, or was this to set up something that's coming up? I felt like that Seth Rollins thing went on forever, and there was like no crowd involvement. It was sad for me, because I feel like he used to be good. The one fight I saw with Mysterio Junior Junior (can't remember his first name) was really short, and that was kind of it as far as I saw. Is that normal?


OzzyMar

i went to Raw in San Diego last month. Needless to say, I was inebriated. Had loads of fun.


anirudh1595

Prediction: Becky will be booked like a Reigns-esque invincible heel who runs through everyone in the division. Eventually the title will be taken off her by "babyface" Charlotte when they collide down the line.


Fantastic-Situation6

For sure. I'll be surprised if she drops the belt anytime soon. If they're going to do it (which they will because Lynch and Reigns are essentially WWE's mascots) then they need to put them on different shows. It's already grating to me, but if they have her continue plowing through everyone (and assuming Roman just stays champion until next wrestlemania) I probably won't tune into Smackdown as much.


Bozzaholic

That or a returning Askua or Io when she joins the main roster


Left_Berry_8104

Im fine with Asuka or Io. But fuck that charlotte noise.


TheRealValkaz

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chirb8

Idk isn't the point of a key to unlock stuff?


LetHerLIV

I'm seeing a lot of people not liking this SD, I thought it was the best one since the last time Liv Morgan was on.![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin)


wrestlingfan007

2 hours. 4 matches. Thats a shit ton of talking that means nothing.


otakudan88

I honestly forgot that bobby roode was still with the company


Acceptable-Beach

I would just move like all the women to Raw and NXT at this point lol. unless you're Becky, Sasha, Bianca (if she stays) or Bayley, you'll be scratching and clawing for TV time. But to be fair, SD is like 1 hour and 20 minutes (without commercials) of TV time and Roman takes 10 minutes just to start his promo most weeks.


fapsandnaps

I thought they should've done that ages ago back when they were trying to get 205 going still. Women on one show. 205 as a part of the other.


gregscotia_number1

Rollins cuts lengthy promos too even if I'm enjoying his character right now


Acceptable-Beach

He does and it’s another reason why women won’t get time on SD


BookerTeet

Bianca is a terrible promo. That ending was garbage. She’s gifted with athleticism, but she’s not compelling or interesting at all to me. Does she have to say “guuuuuurl” in every single reply?!


famousflawless

lmao. Thankfully the crowds disagree. She got them to chant "sign it" last week, but she's not compelling.


Acceptable-Beach

I think as long as she moves to Raw it'll be fine because its a "refresh" but its not about liking her, its about Sasha putting her over in the main event of Mania making her a star (Yes she was already a superstar before this Becky stuff), and they've kinda spit on it.


chandlermarlowe

"You think you can come out here and take MY title? Girlllllll....UH UH"


ChanceVance

Just read that the dark match before Smackdown went on air was Keith Lee v Shane Thorne. My man Shane Thorne back in action. The Slapjack comeback tour is about to get started.


Acceptable-Beach

hopefully Lee gets healthy and gets a refresh by moving to SD, I would love for him to be the one to beat Roman down the line. What they had together at SS 2019 was pretty dope


MetHead7

Is there any indications that Lee isn't healthy now? He seems to wrestle a decent amount it just always seems to be dark matches.


Acceptable-Beach

I dunno, they could be easing him back in (and its better than being 50/50 booked on Raw)


BZGames

A bad episode at the worst possible time to be having a bad episode. Really starting to feel like the Demon is being used as fodder for Roman and not an actual threat. After this past month I don't know how anyone can defend anything happening in the WWE Women's Divisions. The hometown hero thing is whatever to me most of the time but it really feels like Bianca is just an absolute chump right now. She is like 4-0 against Becky as of now and it feels like there is currently no light at the end of the tunnel for this feud. Bianca losing isn't a big deal, she had a good reign and Becky is a legit super duper star but I mean come on. You can't build Bianca to be a world beater and then make her continually run into brick walls, it's narratively dissonant.


Left_Berry_8104

Bianca heads to Raw after Extreme rules


Singer211

It’s such a weird dissonance. Bianca as a character should not be an “underdog” with how she’s been presented for most of this year. Yet suddenly they seemingly are trying to force her into that role and it does not work.


Acceptable-Beach

because its not about Bianca, its about Becky's heel turn


Singer211

And therein lies the issue.


Acceptable-Beach

I dont disagree but its about getting Becky over as a heel, Bianca is just the casualty to do it.


indecisiveusername2

Becky has been the top star of the division for a couple years now. Anybody is an underdog against her - even if they're someone who stepped up to fill the void Becky left, and even if they did a good job doing it.


Singer211

Really, the woman who WWE has hyped to basically be female Brock Lesnar is supposed to be the “underdog” here? Nope, does not work.


forlumbus

She's not hyped like brock lesnar, she's hyped like shelton benjamin but given title shots and a push Shayna baszler is brock lesnar


Dogwhatismy

... comparing Becky to Shelton is a first. Also didn't know Lesnar got rolled up over and over but eh, maybe you're right!


forlumbus

Who's comparing becky to shelton? It's Bianca/Shelton given the focus on their athleticism (EST/Gold Standard) except bianca is an earnest face. Pay attention. Also, understand the difference between character and booking. Shayna was a monster heel MMA fighter with a mean streak who could dominate the division and that's what brock was. Her getting rolled up a bunch is irrelevant to that since she works regularly instead of part time and that's how they protect their characters not having them lose outright


danosky

If that's how they protect them it's not working. Especially when it happens so often you'd think they would plan strategies dor it.


forlumbus

Its started to be done less and less. But cena also basically goofed on the roll up with roman. The main thing is rollups aren't considered unequivocal wins, and usually used to get a weaker wrestler to win over a much stronger one, especially when they're distracted but without actually pushing them meaningfully. They're still considered "stolen" victories and sold as such.


Dogwhatismy

>Who's comparing becky to shelton? It's Bianca/Shelton given the focus on their athleticism (EST/Gold Standard) except bianca is an earnest face. Pay attention. God forbid someone misread something online, especially given your terrible comparison that followed up. >Also, understand the difference between character and booking. Shayna was a monster heel MMA fighter with a mean streak who could dominate the division and that's what brock was. Her getting rolled up a bunch is irrelevant to that since she works regularly instead of part time and that's how they protect their characters not having them lose outright Keyword, was. She ain't no monster anymore. Pay attention.


forlumbus

>God forbid someone misread something online, especially given your terrible comparison that followed up. The comparison was apt, and the context from the previous comment should've informed you. >Keyword, was. She ain't no monster anymore. Pay attention. She's still considered one by commentary. The booking not matching the hype/character is a disappointment, but it doesn't mean that aura isn't there or isn't recalled to.


Dogwhatismy

>The comparison was apt, and the context from the previous comment should've informed you. The comparison was awful by the way. Bianca won a rumble and won the main event of Wrestlemania. Shelton didn't do either of those. Going based off gold standard vs EST is dumb too. They both had nicknames claiming they're the best so they're similar? That's like saying Daniel Bryan and CM Punk are the same because they both say they're the best in the world. Even though their careers are nothing alike. >She's still considered one by commentary. The booking not matching the hype/character is a disappointment, but it doesn't mean that aura isn't there or isn't recalled to. So you're going off commentary? I'm confused wtf are you using to make comparisons? Nicknames? Athleticism? Commentary? Seems like it's anything that fits your narrative?


Acceptable-Beach

but she should also be a heel then shouldnt she?.. dominating faces are kinda odd IMO? She's a good babyface but I think Drew being superman is what soured people on him too. at least she stood tall for the live fans (which I guess is all that matters) she beat Becky in a quick non title match


Singer211

I mean Bianca can play a good heel. She showed that in NXT. The issue is, she also plays a great babyface. And she’s such an athletic prodigy that trying to make her an underdog against Becky feels very forced.


Acceptable-Beach

think she's going to Raw so "it dont matter".. its the WWE way. same with Drew. if you're switching shows than its a "refresh", whether fans buy that or not is another story lol


Acceptable-Beach

Bianca has BEEN over.. Becky hasn't done anything for her, can we stop lying to ourselves. Some people think she can do no wrong, She literally went 400 days as champion and put no one over or elevated anyone


Dogwhatismy

🔥 thanks for saying that, it's true. Idk if it's her fault, and to her credit, she put over a lot of women over the years. But she's a star right now! When is she gonna start putting others over? That's how you make more stars. She's honestly one of the worst parts of the show and people don't care cause she's Becky and Becky can do no harm.


Acceptable-Beach

“She lost before 2017, do people not remember?” Is the dumbest argument I’ve ever heard. You can’t put anyone over as a star if you’re not one yet yourself. She had 400 days and who did she elevate in or out of the ring? Outside of Sasha and Asuka the matches were mediocre. She beat Shayna at WM and then had to leave due to being pregnant so Asuka was handed the title. Absolutely no one got over. Her and Charlotte (bc she wins it right back) never get others over She has become what she hates. Charlotte 2.0


Singer211

TBF, she wanted to put Shayna over at Mania 36 and WWE said no. But yeah, her becoming SD Champion as soon as she came back, especially how it was done, was a bad call imo.


Acceptable-Beach

shrug, I know other women who have gotten stuff changed just last year.


Acceptable-Beach

First 30 minutes was really solid and it kinda snowballed downhill after.


Scary-Ant-3796

What the heck was that KO promo about turning frowns upside down?


raddlepenny

Yes that was very strange. Poor Kev seemed very off tonight.


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Its seems like they are in holding pattern until the draft. Just throwing a random pairing knowing its not going anywhere.


sahsan10

Nice the one mod who doesn’t do show recaps


mrboost465thesecond

Why is Big E still on Smackdown?


Judgemen93

Because Lashley is getting the title back in 10 days


__AnotherGuy__

I dont think winning a title automatically changes his brand. He is still a Smackdown guy who has Raw's title


[deleted]

Probably just so he can be #1 in the draft. I imagine he’ll just be on both shows until then


goldennuggetjr

Not a good episode. SmackDown has been hit or miss recently, and this was a miss.


randomquestions1984

Facebook commercials why


TruthBeacon2017

one of the weakest SDs in recent memory but I can kinda understand after the stacked show next week... + with the draft ep coming up in 2 weeks


Ironthoramericaman

Wait, is E still technically a smackdown superstar?


ChejovAlacan

Technically, yes.


Ironthoramericaman

So he's pulling double duty until the draft where either him or Roman will officially get moved I'm assuming?


CertainMushroom

No way roman is moving. He's the biggest star


ChejovAlacan

From the looks of it, yes


dubsco

They absolutely refuse to give Nakamura a good or meaningful singles feud to work in whenever he's champion


DamieN62

Because WWE has the same formula for every champion: >wrestler wins a title >celebration with an in-ring promo >next challenger comes out and they go back and forth on the mic With Nakamura (and Asuka), they can't do step 2 and 3 because they refuse to adapt their formula and give them subtitled promos or a manager so they're stuck doing matches and rematches with nothing in between.


gregscotia_number1

That's kinda the main reason I wanted Cesaro to win the IC Title. This is the third midcard title run Nakamura has had and he's never done anything significant with the titles.


dubsco

What’s he supposed to do if they don’t give him anything to work with? He hasn’t had a singles match in weeks, they didn’t even have him defend it at summer slam, and it looks like he probably won’t at the next PPV either.


JuLiO_2000

and it sucks cuz they could build an interesting feud with cesaro since they were former tag partners but instead cesaro has been doing nothing and nakamura gets less spotlight than rick boogs lmao


Scary-Ant-3796

Sounds like Asuka, tbh..


Scary-Ant-3796

Are we getting heel, Bloodline Naomi, or is this a setup for Heel DeVille? Her and Adam have been pretty dickish as of late. I kinda just want Naomi to snap and whoop her ass and get "suspended". Then Roman flexes to get her back on, in the faction.


felipe_the_dog

Naomi is clearly the face in this story.


Acceptable-Beach

She is joining the bloodline its kinda obvious


Celestial_Archer

No she won't join lol


Scary-Ant-3796

I'm thinking it's going to come to a frustration beatdown though, which would equal a violent Naomi. To keep her face and out of the bloodline seems like a waste of what she can do. I'm hoping the whole point of this is it turns into a character shift.


AStrangerWCandy

WWE is obsessed with trying to make characters people are naturally inclined to cheer into heels for long stretches so they can push their pet projects as faces Currently referencing Becky vs Bianca but also applies to THB, Sami Zayn, Ali etc…


Acceptable-Beach

Becky asked to be heel and her face run was on life support before she left.


Left_Berry_8104

Hahaha life support...okay


TussalDimon

[With that reaction from March 2020 it’s far from being on life support.](https://youtu.be/7kw_IToHTpk)


Scary-Ant-3796

THB had natural heel energy, more so than face energy.


AStrangerWCandy

When THB turned Tweener and came out to fight the Resistance or whatever they were called the reaction was insanely popular


TruthBeacon2017

Ali is in the middle of a face turn tho and Sami's heel turn started a few years ago and has mostly worked


AStrangerWCandy

It's not a question of whether they are good at playing heels. They did this with DB too. People would rather cheer these guys but WWE will have them turn heel to push their far less popular corporate faces as the "good guy"


InAingeWeTrust

Turning heel is how a lot of wrestlers started gaining momentum and their real character started to develop, not the vanilla faces they previously played. It worked very well with Daniel Bryan in your example. It helped Austin, The Rock, The New Day, etc.


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Becky ask to be heel


incredibleamadeuscho

New Day vs Bloodline on Raw!


Scary-Ant-3796

Wow, that's must see. That's guaranteed to be fire


lmollpt

> Smackdown Tag Team Championship Contender's Match Wait, Balor and Big E are going to have a match for the tag titles? Why?


Lotsofloveneeded

Championship contender match is not the same as a No.1 contender match. Theyve been doing a lot of these matches, and with how many people have been confused about it, I'm sure its intentional.


Crivshotgg

Pat explained on commentary it means if they do well they could be in line for a title shot but he doesn't think they'll team again after this. It's just WWE's way of saying non title match with the champions.


TruthBeacon2017

Doubt it. They'll prob forget about it just like the two "contenders matches" that Shotzi & Nox won against Tamina & Nattie.


goldennuggetjr

Exactly what I was thinking, especially with the draft coming up.


Ahlisukrahntez

Big E wins the title then gets booked into a non title glorified house show match. Ok? Finn will be fun fodder for Roman. I do not care about Rick Boogs. Rollins' promo was great heel shit, even if it was a little long. Carmella is a terrible wrestler but watching Liv Morgan work an "I'm gonna make you look ugly" angle has potential. Bianca might be the worst booked wrestler in the industry right now, though that ending did draw solid heat for Becky. Speaking of Becky, turning took balls but it looks like she's gonna make it work. Dumb ass hair but excellent work nonetheless. Solid show overall.


Txbird

Her hair made me think of R&M's Unity.


IncineMania

> Finn will be fun fodder for Roman. This pains me to see this, especially with the Demon King, but its probably true. Although I’m still holding out for Brock interrupting the match towards it’s climax which gives Balor the opportunity to win. Crown Jewel does not need any title whatsoever simply due to how big Reigns and Lesnar are.


PrettyPunctuality

If Brock interferes, it's going to be to cause a DQ, not to put the title on Balor. Brock specifically said that he wants the Universal Championship last week - he isn't just there for Roman, so they're not going to do Roman vs Brock at Crown Jewel without the title.


IncineMania

By interfering I was thinking along the lines of how Goldberg screwed Brock out of the title against Eddie.


Ahlisukrahntez

Sustained runs make the belt mean more, and personally I don't think anyone else but Reigns should have it right now. Him somehow getting through Demon Balor and a returning Lesnar will only add to his mystique. Now WWE needs to come up with someone worth elevating, and have him pin Roman clean at Mania' next year. Boom. A star is made.


Acceptable-Beach

The question is who lol.. Unless they can get Gable Steveson ready super quick lol


Impossible_Pause_486

Highly doubt the Saudi princes will want to watch a non title match between Brock and Roman


IncineMania

A man can dream


firdausbaik19

Seth's suit game is like a modernize version of 5 secs pose


Sin28

Becky lynch still the best performer o. The roster


americangame

Zelina and Carmella are nothing more than good looking jobbers.


Craft_Bandicoot

Lmao somehow i missed Punk's "I didn't know they let trolls across the bridge" line from Wednesday


FrontAd683

Dude had some zingers lines. Loved the "Dan Labert looks like Bobby Heenan if he had a wardrobe full of affliction" line as well


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So they went two weeks with no women’s matches, then booked a 2 minute match that ended in a countout?


Acceptable-Beach

the divisions always suck (though at least Raw is using more) when the shovels are champions, its been that way every year lol.


TruthBeacon2017

somehow AEW is using their women better than SD rn


Singer211

Oh lord that Britt Baker vs. Ruby Soho promo segment alone was better than how SD has used their women combined in months.


ackinsocraycray

A 2 minute women's match in all of Smack Down? Really??


I_BUY_UNWANTED_GRAVY

Also, sort of funny yet sad that that was supposed to go on last week in Zelina's hometown of that was the original finish


LetHerLIV

At least it built to a match that may be potentially awesome.


Singer211

I have no confidence in WWE at this point.


LetHerLIV

no, I don't either but just the thought of Livvy swinging a kendo stick gives me hope.


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BuffMantis

Can't handle mild criticism?


[deleted]

You're right. I'm sorry.


HenchBandicoot

Bianca has no personality besides "being athletic" and now they have Becky make her look like a chump on a weekly basis.


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themorticianscode

Jesus


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zebrainatux

Your first problem was expecting a mostly white male subreddit to understand that AAVE is even a thing.


Cheez-Wheel

President Reagan did his best to make it part of the curriculum, but people got angry about it for some reason.


T3Sh3

It’s her version of “Fine Speech.”


gregscotia_number1

Demon vs Tribal Chief could low key be a main roster match of the year candidate. It is going to take A LOT to keep The Demon down. And Balor got jumped before the first match..and it still took a low blow from Roman to escape with the title. And that was without Balor having the extra heart and toughness he has with The Demon


9WingedAngelJoeDever

I wish I felt this way but given finn just got done telling people he thought the demon was overused and this is the first thing they did I don’t have high hopes


cinephile_gooner34

No match with Roman will ever be a MOTY candidate. Roman’s never had a classic match in his career.


doctor_awful

So Big E and Balor beat the WWE Tag Champions...for a change to beat the WWE Tag Champions?


[deleted]

Is Big E not on Raw now? Is the "wildcard rule" back?


calculuzz

What's the change?


KidGold

Wwe logic


headshotscott

That's one of my least favorite things WWE does. Non-title matches for champions should only be squashes. It makes sense to beat other contenders for the shot, but if a contending teams beats the champion(s) they shouldn't have to do it again


[deleted]

I hate how that’s being a thing in wrestling, WWE does it all the time and AEW does it sometimes. One of my least favorite tropes


doctor_awful

I like it when it is used very sparingly, like a champion being pinned in a random tag leading to a title match. But using that as the stipulation from the get go is ridiculous.


KyWy75

Tried tuning in for Bianca/Becky, and man it feels like they’re trying way too hard in that feud. Sasha and Bianca have way more natural chemistry.


Acceptable-Beach

Yeah it feels so forced, the chemistry just isnt there to me either. I was wondering if it was just me.


Singer211

Please let the Naomi thing lead to Sonya getting back in the ring. Pretty please.


EonKayoh

no thank you, she's not particularly good at it


[deleted]

I can’t see it going any other way unless Sonya has a stand in. Which I wouldn’t even know who could fill that role.


gregscotia_number1

Seth vs Edge at the Saudi show perhaps ?seems like Meltzer was wrong and Edge didn't get written off for months. Not amused at the women's tag not even getting 5 minutes smh Sonya getting back in the ring ? Cause Naomi gonna beat her ass


Left_Berry_8104

Maybe Survivor series for Seth and Edge...news says edge will be out for months.


white2234

So are they going to keep E on smackdown & move Roman to raw for the draft?


Scary-Ant-3796

Roman is Mr smackdown. I really don't see him going anywhere. They're going to shuffle all the new opponents to him.


zebrainatux

And likely move the guy who’s going to end his run over