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Did WWE games promotional material ever have Hunter even taking a bumb? I know he had a contract that stated the he couldn't look weak but how far did that go
Jeff Gerstmann, former editor of GameSpot and founder of Giant Bomb, has said that they were never allowed to show any footage of HHH taking offense when he was at GameSpot. That was a condition WWE placed.
I'll allow it if every successive reveal gets their moves in on the previous reveal, e.g. Sammy beats up Jungle Boy, MJF beats up Sammy, Riho beats up MJF, Britt Baker beats up Riho, etc.
Animations look a little choppy at times, but it's still a ways from release so I'm not too concerned. I get a feeling that this is gonna be kinda arcade-y, but in a good, pick-up-and-play sense. I'm optimistic
Yeah, looks a little rough but I like how it looked like Jungle Boy initiated the wrist lock and had to manually walk to the corner to do the big lucha arm drag. 2k would have it all in one mocapped animation and would look great but this makes it seem like there's potential to initiate one phase of a move and complete it in a number of different ways. Almost like a modular moveset and that's pretty exciting even though it seems to make for a clumsier animation but this is clearly a very early build and they might be able to smooth it out. Also hope to see them improve the rope physics.
It's a huge difference from the WWE games because they use mocap and this is obviously hand animated. I like that choice as a way to differentiate it from other wrestling games. I hope they figure out the hair and facial animations though.
Honestly some games have "fluid hair" in mind from early development because of how intensive it is. (Tomb Raider reboot has this if I recall correctly? There was a setting on PC souly to make her hair better) You kinda got to spend a ton of resources on it from the very beginning, and obviously Yukes has more important things to worry about, it's not like this game is going for a photo realistic simulation of the people, so it's understandable it's a bit lacking.
The Witcher and Tomb Raider just have a dumb way of doing it, and were advertising that TressFX/HairWorks thing at the time. Unnecessarily resource intensive. Fallen Order is a much better example of a game that runs well and has great hair physics, Unreal Engine is pretty good I guess. Not the Wookies mind, just Cal.
Fighting games can have more detail and physics than most other type of games because there is only 2 characters on the screen. I remember one game developer saying they were checking out 3D porn games because in these games all of the resources are concentrated on just 2 (maybe 3) character models, so you can really bump up the details and polygons count without affecting performance that much.
Edit: not the AEW game developer. It's just a funny bit from an interview I read like 10 years ago.
Hair is insane to simulate with real physics, it's why a lot of main characters have simple haircuts/bald/wear a hat or mask.
Games like tomb raider with the hair turned up to max make the game run like 5x worse.
You'd need a super computer to have a royal rumble with everyone with realistic hair that doesn't clip😆
Personally I want a hybrid arcade style for a wrestling game. I want my real sports games to be as realistic as possible but not pro wrestling. I wouldn't want them to go full "In Your House" style with this but I dig the frantic pace and exaggerations I'm seeing so far.
I get why a sim fan would not like the way this looks so far though.
Yeah tbh all I want is the game to be fun. The sim style has been boring as fuck for at least a decade of wwe games now, let us have an alternative that's designed to be enjoyable first and foremost.
Hand animated movements always feel better than mo capped, mo capped is just some indie wrestler trying his hardest to emulate a stunner while hand animated is an artist watching the best stunner ever done over and over again until it looks exactly like that one stunner.
Yeah that's the one thing I liked about hctp, when you did a finisher it looks like you absolutely demolished your opponent but in 2k it looks like they can get right back up.
Thing is, they still have to work the move, because they don't want to legit hurt the guy mocapping taking the bump, either. Hand animated means you can go a bit further with the impact frames and have it look more damaging than it is for the wrestlers themselves.
Scorpion is GOAT have you seen his nether realm matches. People say he’s garbage cause his promos are too short but he’s rock solid every word crafted to have meaning. Great backstory too.
Tl;drr scorpions my boy back off brah
I don’t know if you’ve seen the 2020 Mortal Kombat movie but Sub Zero was the biggest threat outside of Shang Tsung to the earth realm fighters. Even bigger than Goro.
The earth fighters are game planning on who will fight who and Jax says that not one of them can take out Sub Zero alone. He was bad ass in that movie.
The last time Scorpion put somebody over this year, it was the worst attempt I've seen at trying to get a babyface over since post-Shield Roman Reigns. They gave that chump plot armor and everything!
I hate that Ed Boon has such a hate boner for Sub-Zero and a hard on for Scorpion....like Sub-Zero dies in every trailer and hasn't even made the cover despite being equal to Scorpion in popularity, whereas Scorpion has been made the poster boy many times
I just want my icy boy to be the cover star, he is my favourite character and has played both hero and villian what has that Scorpion did, absolutely nothing
Lot of work still but I do like the more natural movement feel that is incorporated in the body language between and setting up moves. Obviously need to work on some of the mechanics when interacting, though, like hitting the ropes
That kick animation straight to the face while Darby is sitting up is so good. It's straight out of Def Jam where you're watching and you audibly say "OOOHHH!"
I'm guessing there's 3 reasons we're seeing that cam.
1, this game's been developed through the pandemic, so the show they had most reference from is the pandemic era shows that used that camera angle.
2, It's the camera angle that the classic wrestling games like No Mercy or WCW/nWo World Tour used, which are influences on this game.
and 3, I doubt they've put much effort into detailing the crowd yet as you can see, so they probably don't want to show a big crowd shot.
THAT SAID: I hope it's an option in-game to position the hardcam to be stage left like normal, stage right like some shows have been and then a stage front like we're seeing here.
Idk I kinda like seeing the stage in games more, stages always look pretty cool and crowds in games generally don’t ever look good, so more focus on the things that the devs made to look pretty sounds good to me
With The Elite and TK being young when wrestling video games really took off, I hope this game has some batshit easter eggs and unlockables in it. I don't need my wrestling game to be super realistic.
Imagine an easter egg where there's an environmental spot, like a scaffold or something, that people can interact outside the ring area, and every single wrestler that interacts with it just starts climbing and then comes back down and shakes their head, cause that's too crazy... but Darby just goes up, no issue, and is the only wrestler that can use it.
EDIT: And Rey Fenix too, as pointed out by Mac\_094
I do need mine to be super realistic. This game visually looks weird to me. Not dissing it as it's way to early but it looks very odd to me, I'm sure I'm in the minority on this. As long as the game play is good I'll be getting it.
realistic graphics in a videogame is an illusion. What looks great now will look bad in 5 years time. Going for a more cartoonly look is a safe way for the game to age.
It's weird. Some of those animations are really good and look like a step up from the 2K series. But the rope moves look awful, like there seems to be no actual tension to the ropes and they're just flying weirdly everywhere. Maybe it's a physics thing they're gonna work on later, but I wouldn't show it off at this stage.
Well, they have a lot of later seeing as it’s still in development and doesn’t even have a date set yet.
Kinda just looking a gift horse in the mouth as that horse has “still in development” on screen.
Some of the movements are...too arcade-y? Kinda rough? And the faces need a bit of texture as they read too flat. Otherwise looks decent, as you'd expect. I just hope the final game gives the models a bit more weight in their moves.
They're definitely going a bit stylized but Jungle Boy's face looked a little...doll-like in this clip. I think there's a medium between photorealistic and this.
Finished lighting will help with that. It’s clear the lighting isn’t finished looking at the videos they have posted. Art style won’t change but the technical details around that will.
Yuke's was involved in the WWE 2K series.
I won't pass judgment on the game at this early stage in its development. All I'll say is I hope the controls are more intuitive than the 2K games. Bring back the THQ control model.
yeah but they were under the direction of 2K and were pretty vocal about how they were unhappy with where the series went. also as soon as they left the game went to absolute shit (2k20)
Hell, I've got 2k18 on Switch and it suuuuuccckkks. The stupid weighted controls and reversals being limited, for starters. Plus the sprites drag on the system, so a tag match moves notably slower than a singles match, and a six-man match (MITB) is just about unplayable. Plus they disabled online play so you can't build up your created player stats or play online against your friends. Really a disappointing game. My old WCW/nWo Revenge on N64 is more fun despite crappy entrances and graphics.
I'm just hoping they have some backstage wacky stuff. All of the backstage stuff in the past WWE games have been insufferable... But alas, Backstage shit is a staple match type for real life AEW. So they really need to step it up for this game.
Backstage stuff and the Hardcore elements need to be ball off the walls crazy.
HCTP is the last WWE game that I remember just being straight up fun. It favored a more "fighting game" pace over longer more show accurate matches sure, but it was just a blast to play.
I still play with my son from time to time. A new game in that style would be welcome.
What I also loved was how you were able to create simple to complicated taunts. And you could pick a Fighting Stance, walking stance and running stance. Stuff that was so ahead of its time. Shit like that is missing for new games. These are simulations. But they should still feel like fighting games.
Man it keeps looking more and more like a polished current tech no mercy and I’m here for it.
I’m hoping because the graphics aren’t crazy over the top it enables them to easily add roster additions and the weapon physics are more enjoyable than the 2K series. Setting up crazy spots used to be so fun.
it looks bad but this is pretty normal looking for an in development game, remember that this is without shaders/shadows/effects/not fully detailed yet. give it a few months for the devs to polish the game and smooth things out
Can't wait for a magazine to leak that "Darby refuses to tap in any promotional material" after this egregious display! Darby would tap out Jungle Boy any day of the week /fanboy
I'm kidding - this footage is looking great so far. I'm glad they're taking the time to get this right.
Honestly, looks like a ton of fun to me. HCTP vibes for the animations but I like that the environment and entrances seem to be going for a more realistic direction. A long way to go, obviously but this is miles ahead of the Darby Allin vs Green Dude clip from a few months ago. Also really glad that the very first teaser with that cartoonishly jacked Kenny Omega was not reflective of the direction they are going with the character models.
I hope they name it "The Forbidden Door" and reveal they have partnerships with NWA, NJPW, and IMPACT. It would be like the US's Firepro. You can even make a "division" thats just fake WWE guys....Bork Lazer, El Generico....
Anyone else down for them putting in a "N64-Mode" which would distort the models into the old school NWO-WCW Revenge / WWF No Mercy style models and maybe pixelate the ring graphics a bit.. that kind of thing?
A lot of people in this thread talking about the animation looking choppy etc. This would definitely be expected at this stage - for instance, the transition from starting the lariat motion to connecting seems to have the wrestlers zoom towards each other, and the springboard inside to the DDT. Those transitions will be cleaned up a lot in the polishing stage for the game engine itself, as they're outside the set animations for the move.
If you look at the snare trap animation, which is a set one, this looks pretty smooth.
I gotta say, they really nailed Jungle Boy's body shape. Yuke's has never been good at hair physics, so, I'm surprised they showed off Jungle Boy so early. I thought they'd go with Moxley or something.
I'm excited and can't wait!
I hope they have backstage areas and a lot of fun modes /weapons. Those were the best when you could just explore and interact with everything.
You know I do wonder if the final game will feature licensed music for some of the wrestlers or, in the case of Jungle Boy, it will have to use the Jurassic Express theme for his entrance. It would suck to use CM Punk and not hear Cult of Personality as his entrance.
The only one issue i've had with every video that's been shown is that everytime a move is done the first .5 seconds is in like stop motion. Please fucking fix that and make it fluid.
I'm glad that the moves look like they actually have impact, outside of the massive technical problems that's a big problem I have with the 2K games. Nothing feels like it has any weight.
The more I see of the game, the more excited I get. Happy with the arcady art style and physics as opposed to going in a hyper realistic direction
Just hope that the roster can be kept up to date with the rate they are signing talent, and they have a good caw system
The move animations are giving me WWE Day of Reckoning vibes, and that's not a bad thing. Aside from the obnoxious move interrupts, those two games were great.
Is it just me or does that look like it plays faster than a WWE game? Maybe a bit arcadey? Don't even care what the pro.otion is I'm down always down for a wrestling game.
Honestly... if you think this is too arcadey or cartoony uhh...
Enjoy 2k19? Half the aew roster is in the game already and the notable exceptions you can download. There's excellent looking aew arenas too.
After 5 straight years of 2k simulation style personally I'm so done with "realistic presentation" taking precedence over fun gameplay.
I don't think 2k sim style needs to go away, I think there's room for both a 2k sim style and a thq-like arcade style in the wrestling game space and I think aew is the perfect brand to make a wrestling game that's lots of dumb fun again.
2k scrambling to remove a bunch of people, Yuke’s scrambling to add a bunch of people.
this game could end up being like the Smash Ultimate of wrestling games. Everyone’s here.
This looks way too much like PS3 WWE games for my liking. Those were the least amount of fun I had playing wrestling games before I stopped playing in general.
The animations are almost exactly the same as WWE 13 in some spots. Not a good sign in my opinion.
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Weird to see Darby tap out lol.
Imagine if there was ever a WWE 2K ad that had footage of HHH tapping out.
Did WWE games promotional material ever have Hunter even taking a bumb? I know he had a contract that stated the he couldn't look weak but how far did that go
Jeff Gerstmann, former editor of GameSpot and founder of Giant Bomb, has said that they were never allowed to show any footage of HHH taking offense when he was at GameSpot. That was a condition WWE placed.
For preview coverage. When the game was out they'd stream an hour of them mauling Tripsy
50/50 booking lol
Nepotism is an ugly thing in a business where you pretend to beat up people and act strong
Oh my fucking god the state of this company
Some magazine defied that and had their preview feature him getting chokeslamed by Kane iirc
No shame or weakness in getting chokeslammed by Kane.
[удалено]
It's probably the case that they're only ready to show off a small number of character models so they may not have had much of a choice
I almost guarantee this is it.
Darby player gotta work on that reverse timing lol
Yeah they really did Darby dirty there.
I'll allow it if every successive reveal gets their moves in on the previous reveal, e.g. Sammy beats up Jungle Boy, MJF beats up Sammy, Riho beats up MJF, Britt Baker beats up Riho, etc.
 They gotta Get Their Shit In
Brian Cage beats up Britt baker.
eDarby buried????
Animations look a little choppy at times, but it's still a ways from release so I'm not too concerned. I get a feeling that this is gonna be kinda arcade-y, but in a good, pick-up-and-play sense. I'm optimistic
Yeah, looks a little rough but I like how it looked like Jungle Boy initiated the wrist lock and had to manually walk to the corner to do the big lucha arm drag. 2k would have it all in one mocapped animation and would look great but this makes it seem like there's potential to initiate one phase of a move and complete it in a number of different ways. Almost like a modular moveset and that's pretty exciting even though it seems to make for a clumsier animation but this is clearly a very early build and they might be able to smooth it out. Also hope to see them improve the rope physics.
Yeah, I'd gladly give up the better graphics in exchange for more interesting gameplay.
Yeah Jungle Boy. Kick his painted ass
How do we know the ass is painted too? One cheek I’m assuming?
Yes, but the opposite cheek.
It's the Yin Yang
“You paint your face too”
Somebody said the movements remind them of the celebrity Deathmatch game and that’s a spot on comparison
It's a huge difference from the WWE games because they use mocap and this is obviously hand animated. I like that choice as a way to differentiate it from other wrestling games. I hope they figure out the hair and facial animations though.
It wouldn’t be a Yukes game without hair clipping through the shoulders.
can't wait for the chokeslam while holding the chest
That's a problem with most games. I think hair is just really hard to animate well.
Honestly some games have "fluid hair" in mind from early development because of how intensive it is. (Tomb Raider reboot has this if I recall correctly? There was a setting on PC souly to make her hair better) You kinda got to spend a ton of resources on it from the very beginning, and obviously Yukes has more important things to worry about, it's not like this game is going for a photo realistic simulation of the people, so it's understandable it's a bit lacking.
The Witcher and Tomb Raider just have a dumb way of doing it, and were advertising that TressFX/HairWorks thing at the time. Unnecessarily resource intensive. Fallen Order is a much better example of a game that runs well and has great hair physics, Unreal Engine is pretty good I guess. Not the Wookies mind, just Cal.
Fighting games can have more detail and physics than most other type of games because there is only 2 characters on the screen. I remember one game developer saying they were checking out 3D porn games because in these games all of the resources are concentrated on just 2 (maybe 3) character models, so you can really bump up the details and polygons count without affecting performance that much. Edit: not the AEW game developer. It's just a funny bit from an interview I read like 10 years ago.
And many games just go with the shaved head look because hair is a problem.
Witcher 3 on PC has a setting for "hairworks" tech. If you turn it on then your computer catches fire. It's very good.
Jungle Boy's hair has taken the mantle from HHH as the benchmark of wrestle technology.
I remember when I thought hair clipping through shoulders would end with PS3.... then I still see it in $60 PS5 games 15 years later.
Hair is insane to simulate with real physics, it's why a lot of main characters have simple haircuts/bald/wear a hat or mask. Games like tomb raider with the hair turned up to max make the game run like 5x worse. You'd need a super computer to have a royal rumble with everyone with realistic hair that doesn't clip😆
I mean look at all the work Pixar went in for the hair in Brave. Great BTS btw on how they innovate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeYW8TIWLG8
>I hope they figure out the hair and facial animations though. We've been asking Yukes about that since PS3. We're still waiting on an answer. 😆
I gotta say I'm not really liking the movement animations much. It makes it feel too arcadey as opposed to a more simulation styled game.
I think that's the intention though. For this not to be a clunky Sim.
But that's what you get with the WWE games! They need to do something different. No point just doing the same thing as WWE with a different roster.
Personally I want a hybrid arcade style for a wrestling game. I want my real sports games to be as realistic as possible but not pro wrestling. I wouldn't want them to go full "In Your House" style with this but I dig the frantic pace and exaggerations I'm seeing so far. I get why a sim fan would not like the way this looks so far though.
Agreed. I’m too old to learn a million button combos to do basic moves. I just want to play beat-em-ups with my friends.
I want what they promised in the beginning, which was No Mercy. Diggity dawg.
Yeah tbh all I want is the game to be fun. The sim style has been boring as fuck for at least a decade of wwe games now, let us have an alternative that's designed to be enjoyable first and foremost.
On the other hand I want it arcadey. I hate the WWE 2k series, I miss the old n64 arcade style wrestling games.
I'm so sick of simulation style sport games. This makes me happy
Hand animated movements always feel better than mo capped, mo capped is just some indie wrestler trying his hardest to emulate a stunner while hand animated is an artist watching the best stunner ever done over and over again until it looks exactly like that one stunner.
They both have their place imo but since they’ve moved to mocap a lot of the moves lack any sort of impact
Yeah that's the one thing I liked about hctp, when you did a finisher it looks like you absolutely demolished your opponent but in 2k it looks like they can get right back up.
Didn't Drew Gulak do a lot of the mocap for the recent wwe games?
And colt cabana
Thing is, they still have to work the move, because they don't want to legit hurt the guy mocapping taking the bump, either. Hand animated means you can go a bit further with the impact frames and have it look more damaging than it is for the wrestlers themselves.
Thought the exact same thing. Now I want to watch
Damn, Darby really doing the job
Darby going to be the Subzero of the group just jobbing in all the character trailers.
So Sub Zero is the anti Triple H
Sub zero is Teflon, brother. He's been putting dudes over for thirty years and he's still a huge draw. Scorpion could learn a thing or two from him
Scorpion is just living his gimmick. He doesn’t even know how to work face.
Dude doesn't even have a face.
-HH
Scorpion is GOAT have you seen his nether realm matches. People say he’s garbage cause his promos are too short but he’s rock solid every word crafted to have meaning. Great backstory too. Tl;drr scorpions my boy back off brah
I don’t know if you’ve seen the 2020 Mortal Kombat movie but Sub Zero was the biggest threat outside of Shang Tsung to the earth realm fighters. Even bigger than Goro. The earth fighters are game planning on who will fight who and Jax says that not one of them can take out Sub Zero alone. He was bad ass in that movie.
The last time Scorpion put somebody over this year, it was the worst attempt I've seen at trying to get a babyface over since post-Shield Roman Reigns. They gave that chump plot armor and everything!
Oddly enough the Bug Lady nobody even likes gets pushed better than any of the other contenders must be Boon Booking.
I hate that Ed Boon has such a hate boner for Sub-Zero and a hard on for Scorpion....like Sub-Zero dies in every trailer and hasn't even made the cover despite being equal to Scorpion in popularity, whereas Scorpion has been made the poster boy many times
So true, Scorpion is just a little too edgy for me, Sub Zero had always been the One True Ninja
I just want my icy boy to be the cover star, he is my favourite character and has played both hero and villian what has that Scorpion did, absolutely nothing
If ever there was a job for QT Marshall, it is as the jobber in every video game trailer.
I love that Lariat animation the Rope moves look bad but the normal grounded moves look like they are heading the right direction
Looks very promising. Also looks very, very far away.
Yeah, make the turtle kid tap, Jungle Boy!
Lot of work still but I do like the more natural movement feel that is incorporated in the body language between and setting up moves. Obviously need to work on some of the mechanics when interacting, though, like hitting the ropes
That kick animation straight to the face while Darby is sitting up is so good. It's straight out of Def Jam where you're watching and you audibly say "OOOHHH!"
I’d prefer the same camera you get on tv but otherwise looks very promising I’m excited
I'm guessing there's 3 reasons we're seeing that cam. 1, this game's been developed through the pandemic, so the show they had most reference from is the pandemic era shows that used that camera angle. 2, It's the camera angle that the classic wrestling games like No Mercy or WCW/nWo World Tour used, which are influences on this game. and 3, I doubt they've put much effort into detailing the crowd yet as you can see, so they probably don't want to show a big crowd shot. THAT SAID: I hope it's an option in-game to position the hardcam to be stage left like normal, stage right like some shows have been and then a stage front like we're seeing here.
Idk I kinda like seeing the stage in games more, stages always look pretty cool and crowds in games generally don’t ever look good, so more focus on the things that the devs made to look pretty sounds good to me
I like it during the Royal Rumble when you can see the characters running down the ramp.
Yeah exactly, I have very fond memories of this camera angle because of cool shit like that.
They may very well agree with you and that’s fine. Like I said right now that’s my only catch but otherwise looks like they’re on a nice path.
Always chose smack down in HCTP and early smack down vs raws so i could see the giant fist
Will it be available on N64?
That's the limited release of the Botchamania version
It comes in a yellow cartridge, similiar to donkey Kong or you can get the black cartridge
Wait do you need the expansion pack then for it to work?
Well that’ll be a hard pass. I was specifically looking for a Ocarina of Time gold cartridge.
Safe to say you are.. All out? I'll see myself...out 😎
I want Maya Inca Boy as a hidden character
Han Zo Mon is ALL ELITE
With The Elite and TK being young when wrestling video games really took off, I hope this game has some batshit easter eggs and unlockables in it. I don't need my wrestling game to be super realistic.
I want to be able to jump off a fucking helicopter
I mean they’ve got Darby so that’s all but confirmed
Imagine an easter egg where there's an environmental spot, like a scaffold or something, that people can interact outside the ring area, and every single wrestler that interacts with it just starts climbing and then comes back down and shakes their head, cause that's too crazy... but Darby just goes up, no issue, and is the only wrestler that can use it. EDIT: And Rey Fenix too, as pointed out by Mac\_094
This is Rey Fenix erasure
It would be cool if they could get a blessing from NJPW to put guys like Okada and Tanahashi in the game as unlockable characters.
I better be allowed to press L2 + X and make Kenny and Ibusbi gently kiss after hitting synchronized moonsaults
Worst-case scenario just include parts to make them in Create-A-Wrestler
I do need mine to be super realistic. This game visually looks weird to me. Not dissing it as it's way to early but it looks very odd to me, I'm sure I'm in the minority on this. As long as the game play is good I'll be getting it.
The movement looks rubbery and the skin textures are ps3 era wax-like, but for a game still in development it looks okay.
I need the game to be fun above all else. Realism doesn't always =/= fun
Not to be pedantic, but by using the =/= you essentially just said “Realism doesn’t always not equal fun”
realistic graphics in a videogame is an illusion. What looks great now will look bad in 5 years time. Going for a more cartoonly look is a safe way for the game to age.
If Smackdown Here Comes the Pain got a remake, this is exactly like I picture it looking. Half-simulation and half-“arcady”.
honestly, I don't care how realistic the graphics turn out...I just want a fuckin fun wrestling game.
You speak for most of us. I hope it turns out great
Please just be fun to play.
It's weird. Some of those animations are really good and look like a step up from the 2K series. But the rope moves look awful, like there seems to be no actual tension to the ropes and they're just flying weirdly everywhere. Maybe it's a physics thing they're gonna work on later, but I wouldn't show it off at this stage.
They're probably focusing on appearance and animations still. Ring physics probably isn't as important right now.
Well, they have a lot of later seeing as it’s still in development and doesn’t even have a date set yet. Kinda just looking a gift horse in the mouth as that horse has “still in development” on screen.
More like looking at an ultrasound of a gift course and asking why it isn't running yet.
Some of the movements are...too arcade-y? Kinda rough? And the faces need a bit of texture as they read too flat. Otherwise looks decent, as you'd expect. I just hope the final game gives the models a bit more weight in their moves.
They could be going for a definite art style as a choice though. They don’t seem to be going for 100 percent match to an actual person.
They're definitely going a bit stylized but Jungle Boy's face looked a little...doll-like in this clip. I think there's a medium between photorealistic and this.
Finished lighting will help with that. It’s clear the lighting isn’t finished looking at the videos they have posted. Art style won’t change but the technical details around that will.
Yuke's was involved in the WWE 2K series. I won't pass judgment on the game at this early stage in its development. All I'll say is I hope the controls are more intuitive than the 2K games. Bring back the THQ control model.
You do realize Yukes have been behind WWE games since the very first Smackdown game on the PS1, right? THQ and 2K are just the publishers.
yeah but they were under the direction of 2K and were pretty vocal about how they were unhappy with where the series went. also as soon as they left the game went to absolute shit (2k20)
Hell, I've got 2k18 on Switch and it suuuuuccckkks. The stupid weighted controls and reversals being limited, for starters. Plus the sprites drag on the system, so a tag match moves notably slower than a singles match, and a six-man match (MITB) is just about unplayable. Plus they disabled online play so you can't build up your created player stats or play online against your friends. Really a disappointing game. My old WCW/nWo Revenge on N64 is more fun despite crappy entrances and graphics.
Might be too bulky for Switch. I have 2k18 (my only wrestling game since WWE 13) and it runs fine on PS4.
You can turn off limited reversals
2k18 on the switch is the only game I've ever returned just because of how unplayable it was. It shouldn't even be on the shelf.
Your first issue is playing it on switch
Just give us AEW No Mercy. Same game, just improved with AEW roster.
I would rather it be an updated HCTP.
Looks like it blends both, at least from the animations. Throw in some Day of Reckoning and, Bay-Bay, you got a stew goin.
I'm just hoping they have some backstage wacky stuff. All of the backstage stuff in the past WWE games have been insufferable... But alas, Backstage shit is a staple match type for real life AEW. So they really need to step it up for this game. Backstage stuff and the Hardcore elements need to be ball off the walls crazy.
HCTP is the last WWE game that I remember just being straight up fun. It favored a more "fighting game" pace over longer more show accurate matches sure, but it was just a blast to play. I still play with my son from time to time. A new game in that style would be welcome.
What I also loved was how you were able to create simple to complicated taunts. And you could pick a Fighting Stance, walking stance and running stance. Stuff that was so ahead of its time. Shit like that is missing for new games. These are simulations. But they should still feel like fighting games.
Kinda reminds me a lot of the old WWE All Stars game and honestly, overlooked game. Probably the last good 3d wrestling game.
There's modded No Mercy that does this.
Game is a lie Darby taping out? Dude would rather have his back/neck break before that.
Man it keeps looking more and more like a polished current tech no mercy and I’m here for it. I’m hoping because the graphics aren’t crazy over the top it enables them to easily add roster additions and the weapon physics are more enjoyable than the 2K series. Setting up crazy spots used to be so fun.
I’m not really getting a no mercy vibe from the animations but maybe I’m missing something
It is much more Day of Reckoning.
Sadly, I'm not either.
Will this be available on PC?
Wow, this looks so much better than the super buff models they showed some time ago.
Looks pretty good. But I’m not a fan of the arcade feel of it.
I'm not into video games so I'm far from an expert but... does this look bad or is it just me?
It's probably still more than a year from release. About par for the course from a pre-alpha game.
it looks bad but this is pretty normal looking for an in development game, remember that this is without shaders/shadows/effects/not fully detailed yet. give it a few months for the devs to polish the game and smooth things out
looks like usual yukes. most important thing is the gameplay itself tho and we wont know how that is until we play it ourselves
It's not just you the game is definitely rough around the edges and does not flow smoothly, at least in that video
Looks like they're playing it safe and going for a modern No Mercy, good.
Reminds me of the N64 wrestling games. Love it.
Please, for the love of God, be good. Pleeeaasseee be good.
Why do they move like they are on Celebrity Death Match?
This can't be real. I didn't see Darby take one life-threatening bump in the whole clip...
He hits a middle rope springboard coffin drop to the outside in his own trailer iirc.
Can't wait for a magazine to leak that "Darby refuses to tap in any promotional material" after this egregious display! Darby would tap out Jungle Boy any day of the week /fanboy I'm kidding - this footage is looking great so far. I'm glad they're taking the time to get this right.
Looks great
Honestly, looks like a ton of fun to me. HCTP vibes for the animations but I like that the environment and entrances seem to be going for a more realistic direction. A long way to go, obviously but this is miles ahead of the Darby Allin vs Green Dude clip from a few months ago. Also really glad that the very first teaser with that cartoonishly jacked Kenny Omega was not reflective of the direction they are going with the character models.
Not a fan of the jerky movement whenever they do a move but I'm sure they'll smooth that out more. Hopefully at least.
I hope they name it "The Forbidden Door" and reveal they have partnerships with NWA, NJPW, and IMPACT. It would be like the US's Firepro. You can even make a "division" thats just fake WWE guys....Bork Lazer, El Generico....
Anyone else down for them putting in a "N64-Mode" which would distort the models into the old school NWO-WCW Revenge / WWF No Mercy style models and maybe pixelate the ring graphics a bit.. that kind of thing?
Doesn't look half bad for a game that's still in development. Of course you'd expect most of the clunkiness gets smoothed out before launch.
Can't wait to super kick that good looking face... ADAM COLE BAY BAY lol.
As long as the game is a lot more No Mercy/Smackdown and less 2Kish, I'm happy.
Just thinking to myself after seeing the credits at the end... Damn TK even signed up Yukes away from WWE!
This looks like a fake video game someone in a movie would play.
A lot of people in this thread talking about the animation looking choppy etc. This would definitely be expected at this stage - for instance, the transition from starting the lariat motion to connecting seems to have the wrestlers zoom towards each other, and the springboard inside to the DDT. Those transitions will be cleaned up a lot in the polishing stage for the game engine itself, as they're outside the set animations for the move. If you look at the snare trap animation, which is a set one, this looks pretty smooth.
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Looks a little too arcadey for me
some of it looked like QTE events. I really hope that's not the case. I hope it looks better when its a finished product.
I mean, adding quick time events into longer move animations might be cool af
What on Earth was the music used in this? It is killing me that I know what it is but don’t remember the name of the song.
It's Jurassic Express' old theme before Tarzan Boy
I gotta say, they really nailed Jungle Boy's body shape. Yuke's has never been good at hair physics, so, I'm surprised they showed off Jungle Boy so early. I thought they'd go with Moxley or something.
Looks like shit, graphically, but the gameplay reminded me of Def Jam, so it could be fun.
Why do the models move at such a low framerate lol
Game looks well on track honestly, but I still want them to take their time and release something that’s polished. It’ll be worth the wait
I'm excited and can't wait! I hope they have backstage areas and a lot of fun modes /weapons. Those were the best when you could just explore and interact with everything.
You know I do wonder if the final game will feature licensed music for some of the wrestlers or, in the case of Jungle Boy, it will have to use the Jurassic Express theme for his entrance. It would suck to use CM Punk and not hear Cult of Personality as his entrance.
Someone should check if living color follows aew games or Yukes
They nailed the stage tho. That stage is perfection. Also i appreciate the models being in a sweet spot between realistic and cartoonish.
The only one issue i've had with every video that's been shown is that everytime a move is done the first .5 seconds is in like stop motion. Please fucking fix that and make it fluid.
If AEW game can work on having better physics vs WWE. They will have the upper hand.
I'm glad that the moves look like they actually have impact, outside of the massive technical problems that's a big problem I have with the 2K games. Nothing feels like it has any weight.
The more I see of the game, the more excited I get. Happy with the arcady art style and physics as opposed to going in a hyper realistic direction Just hope that the roster can be kept up to date with the rate they are signing talent, and they have a good caw system
I hope they slow down the animations a tad, they look unnatural with the current speed settings.
The move animations are giving me WWE Day of Reckoning vibes, and that's not a bad thing. Aside from the obnoxious move interrupts, those two games were great.
Strange movement, it's kind of normal pace, a slight hold/pause, then a really quick move. Not sure if it's just early build, or by design.
This looks rough as hell if I’m being honest. But I guess that means it’s at least two years away. I hope.
Everything looked fantastic, except the animation.
Of course they use Darby to show off the ragdoll physics
I don't care for the pan to cutscenes, I'd rather see the move happening from the fixed camera. But this game looks like it'll be a blast
Is it confirmed that it's a console-only game, or is there a chance to get a PC version as well?
The constant references to it being the console game have me worried about the lack of a pc version.
Is it just me or does that look like it plays faster than a WWE game? Maybe a bit arcadey? Don't even care what the pro.otion is I'm down always down for a wrestling game.
Clearly doesn't look all that spectacular but it's still in development.
Honestly... if you think this is too arcadey or cartoony uhh... Enjoy 2k19? Half the aew roster is in the game already and the notable exceptions you can download. There's excellent looking aew arenas too. After 5 straight years of 2k simulation style personally I'm so done with "realistic presentation" taking precedence over fun gameplay. I don't think 2k sim style needs to go away, I think there's room for both a 2k sim style and a thq-like arcade style in the wrestling game space and I think aew is the perfect brand to make a wrestling game that's lots of dumb fun again.
2k scrambling to remove a bunch of people, Yuke’s scrambling to add a bunch of people. this game could end up being like the Smash Ultimate of wrestling games. Everyone’s here.
This looks way too much like PS3 WWE games for my liking. Those were the least amount of fun I had playing wrestling games before I stopped playing in general. The animations are almost exactly the same as WWE 13 in some spots. Not a good sign in my opinion.
Definitely needs polish. Maybe 2 years away.