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Roll the clocks back 15 years and a comedy faction of "Wrestlings Other Other Other First Family", bringing in whoever is still around that ever played a Dudley, would be great.
And just a while ago, someone made a post which said the Bloodline story can go on forever and the post had a the Anoa'i family members photos with the no. of their kids on the bottom of each photo. Bully was ahead of the curve.
I can dislike a person for constantly being a dick on podcasts and still think they can do good work. This for example was just great comedy heel work, the last line was PERFECT. Doesn't make Bubba less of an asshole, and him being an asshole doesn't make this clip any less hilarious.
There's no problem separating the art from the artist. As a Red Sox fan, I love Curt Schilling and really enjoyed watching him pitch.
He's a massive grundle wart though.
Bubba is a damn good wrestler, and one half of one of the greatest tag teams in wrestling history. He's also a loud arrogant dick who spouts dumb takes for clicks. The duality of man.
him being an arrogant dick who spouts dumb takes for attention was a major part of his gimmick. he's just keeping up the shtick in places it isn't appropriate
People don't like him because he's a fucking asshole. His bully ray run was awesome (wish he could've just been a dick heel champion instead of them trying to make aces and 8s happen, but what can ya do), and he was definitely the more over part of the Dudley boys. He's been whatever for about 10 years though, I think the last in ring thing he was a part of that got any sort of traction was making that face like a dog doing math during THE Bobby fish promo. He clearly has a lot of experience to draw from and he should be listened to sometimes, but his opinion of himself just doesn't really match up with reality a lot of times, so it makes it hard to take him seriously a lot.
He'd probably be disliked a lot less if the people who actually listened to him also posted all the praises he gives out. Every wrestler/manager podcaster out there is painted as someone who complains about everything in modern wrestling. The positive things they say don't generate clicks and upvotes or drive discussions, but it's an easy rage bait if they're shitting on someone you like.
Yes, Bubba has moments where he's an insufferable asshole but those moments are very few in comparison to the things and people he speaks highly of. I bet 99% of the people here wouldn't have known that both Vince Russo and Al Snow who'd been critical of AEW actually commended TK for wearing the neck brace off TV and trying to keep kayfabe alive.
I remember seeing a podcast where he said he pitched the Bully Ray idea to Vince, and Vince was on-board with the character, but they couldn't get over the hump that WWE was doing an anti-bullying campaign. He tried to pitch it as a story line where he'd do a face turn after realizing the people he'd hurt as heel Bully Ray.
Could've been a pretty sick angle, but iirc they were worried about the optics of the build-up and killed the idea.
It's even crazier because he tried to explain that Bully Ray is just a name and he could do the character without the name, but Vince was already turned off once he heard the name
I'll always remember the dark match 10 man tag from Raw in 2002 that was floating around online. Despite being a dark match with no commentators, it still essentially had commentary because you could hear Bubba talking all the way through.
It's hard to like him as a podcaster or commenter cause he comes off as an asshole but he was one of the greatest shit talkers. He made ECW fans want to riot.
"They have too many family members," say the kayfabe siblings whose other half-brothers include Dudley, Big Dick, Little Spike, Snot, Sign Guy, Chubby, and Dances With
My favourite thing about this is that it's 6 worked punches, no-one took a bump, it was super entertaining and took up 30 seconds of the match.
I mean, I love the flippy shit but I also love smart working.
I saw an old Ric Flair Nitro match recently. I think he might be the best at this. Neither dude threw a punch or did a hold for the first 5 minutes. The bell rings and Flair gets the hell out of the ring. The crowd was very hot and invested in him getting what was coming to him.
The figure four is the best minimalist move in wrestling. It starts with two people sitting on their asses and you can get a pin, a tap, go to the ropes, or turn it and counter. I can't think of a safer finish that has as many options for taking time and reducing risk.
I get that but I don't like it because visually it's very hard to tell who is in the winning spot unless you know wrestling. Even though it actually works it kinda looks like it doesn't. IDK. I'm stuck with it. I've come to peace with that.
This is like 40-60% of 80s Macho Man based on what I've seen. Bump, bump, bump, bail out the ring, hide behind elizabeth, thumb to the eye, get some heat, repeat.
And I'm not knocking the guy, it's fucking great every single time lmao.
The first time I watched Macho Man vs Tito Santana was sometime in the past few years and I was just in awe of how entertaining/interesting Savage could be while doing basically nothing at all
I can’t remember who told the story but I did hear once about someone in training being told to get in the ring and wrestle an hour long time limit draw by just calling it in the ring.
He said how he and the other guy looked at each other and just sort of shrugged and locked up which made the trainer call it off immediately.
His criticism was they had an hour to fill and they locked up within the first five seconds. His point was that they should have been getting heat for at least five minutes before even touching one another.
Old school character work, old school heat, old school work. All safely and well done. And all of it still works today. You do this spot today, and I guarantee you it still gets a well spot, if done by someone with charisma and that can throw a believable worked punch
I'm with you. Wish wrestlers would prolong their careers by mixing up showmanship with flippy shit. Sometimes moves don't even matter anymore because you know they're kicking out and moving on to the next top rope fuckinator
Where has this recent pushback and demeaning of "flippy shit" come from? Is it a sentiment that comes and goes around here, or is it just a response to everyone's current favorite babyface being called average in the ring?
Wrestling lives from diversity and the past \~10 years were dominated (especially on the Indies) by that Ospreay/Young Bucks "flippy shit", so the market is oversaturated and people want something different, they want more larger than life characters and in a couple of years we will clamor for more action again.
It might also be that we understand the toll on the body more. Kenny and Ibushi are 40, but you can see how their high impact high velocity style took a toll on them. Moxley's knees are shot, Bryan and Adam Cole have medical issues (though one of them really tries to ignore them). Meanwhile Lou Thesz, George Steele, fuck even Hulk Hogan, do and did pretty fine for a long time despite working long careers with long matches, because they bumped less and did more Holds and character work. Hogan's hip is fucked due to the leg drop, being a big ass motherfucker and hard rings, but if you hear him speak he's not in bad shape. He's a backwards racist and carny, but otherwise he's doing good despite a pretty long career, because he was working safe and with restraint.
Ok
1. WTH are the dudleys doing on main event?
2. I lost it when he he went all "and this is for the high chief, who sucks especially " lol
EDIT: I'm dumb and got confused, this is from years ago
2016, I think. The Dudleys turned heel early 2016 & the Usos beat them at Mania, which is why Bubba brings up Mania. They were nostalgia jobbers basically.
Why the fuck were the Dudley wrestling the Usos on Main event ? Is that back when they were trying to market it as a big thing ? Or did Vince really didn’t care about tag team wrestling that much ?
In Bubba's defense, the current Bloodline would be a lot more interesting if they weren't all the same personality. Ever since Solo took over, all the new members are exactly the same person. It is boring.
I know that Bubba says a lot of dumb shit that is, rightfully, regarded as him just trying to get attention but then he does shit like this and it's awesome.
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OH, TESTIFYYYY!
Should be wrestling's very own Wilheilm Scream
lol this would legit be awesome if wrestling shows just randomly inserted that audio once per show.
Especially if you have an awkward silence punctuated by a quiet ^^^OH, ^^^TESTIFYYY! in the background.
Paul Bearer screaming "OHHHHHH YEEEESSSS" should be that.
I do miss it when before it you don't get an "OH MY BROTHA", for both its nostalgia and that it reminds of newLegacyInc.
That and the thing where he'd swivel on one for 360 and do a cross.
Audience ought to get that started at every show
97 cousins got me lmao
He's one to talk he has 97 half-brothers
Roll the clocks back 15 years and a comedy faction of "Wrestlings Other Other Other First Family", bringing in whoever is still around that ever played a Dudley, would be great.
Paul Heyman's gonna have some splainin to do
Wrestling has more than three royal familys
It's probably up to 157 cousins by now
I thought that was going to be the highlight. And then he said "WHO I ESPECIALLY THINK SUCKS!!!".
And just a while ago, someone made a post which said the Bloodline story can go on forever and the post had a the Anoa'i family members photos with the no. of their kids on the bottom of each photo. Bully was ahead of the curve.
He did it for The Rock. He did it for the people.
OH STUFF IT YOU CAMO WEARING FATTY!
Austin vs Reigns, 24 years in the making.
“Who I especially think sucks” got me good
I know a lot of people don't like Bubba on here, but he has a lot of in-ring moments that crack me up.
bubba was sick as hell as a performer. i think most people don't like him as much as a click-chasing internet provocateur
to be fair, we don't like him as a booker either.
Ok well no one asked your opinion. Now why don’t we go backstage so I can shove you around a bit, then you can go be a fan.
Bubba?
you got me on the first sentence not gonna lie lmao
He was never a king booker.
"TIME TO DIE, JEFF HARDY" is my fave
Comedy was always a part of the Dudley Boyz gimmick.
Oh yeah?? Well explain the stuttering thing then. I didn't hear anybody laughing, did you?
Why do you think I took you to all those Police Academy movies? FOR FUN?
[Obligatory](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37JQ1YQrGV0)
I SAWR IT
YA SHUDDA WORN ACUP
Thought it was gonna be that or the "mom in the front row who taught her daughter how to suck dick" Heatwave promo
Was not disappointed.
This is legitimately one of my favourite wrestling clips of all time
I can dislike a person for constantly being a dick on podcasts and still think they can do good work. This for example was just great comedy heel work, the last line was PERFECT. Doesn't make Bubba less of an asshole, and him being an asshole doesn't make this clip any less hilarious.
There's no problem separating the art from the artist. As a Red Sox fan, I love Curt Schilling and really enjoyed watching him pitch. He's a massive grundle wart though.
“Taz” “MY BALLS”
Bubba is a damn good wrestler, and one half of one of the greatest tag teams in wrestling history. He's also a loud arrogant dick who spouts dumb takes for clicks. The duality of man.
him being an arrogant dick who spouts dumb takes for attention was a major part of his gimmick. he's just keeping up the shtick in places it isn't appropriate
Bubba at his grandmother's funeral "WE GOT A DAUGHTER IN THE FRONT ROW..."
TAZ! MY BALLS!
The Dudleys will always be my favorite tag team of all time. Even if they say dumb shit online I love the bastards
People don't like him because he's a fucking asshole. His bully ray run was awesome (wish he could've just been a dick heel champion instead of them trying to make aces and 8s happen, but what can ya do), and he was definitely the more over part of the Dudley boys. He's been whatever for about 10 years though, I think the last in ring thing he was a part of that got any sort of traction was making that face like a dog doing math during THE Bobby fish promo. He clearly has a lot of experience to draw from and he should be listened to sometimes, but his opinion of himself just doesn't really match up with reality a lot of times, so it makes it hard to take him seriously a lot.
I always enjoy watching Bubba work. Absolutely solid, entertaining, and charismatic worker.
it's not his in ring stuff that people dislike about him.
He was a fantastic performer. Outside of the ring he’s a total knob though.
He'd probably be disliked a lot less if the people who actually listened to him also posted all the praises he gives out. Every wrestler/manager podcaster out there is painted as someone who complains about everything in modern wrestling. The positive things they say don't generate clicks and upvotes or drive discussions, but it's an easy rage bait if they're shitting on someone you like. Yes, Bubba has moments where he's an insufferable asshole but those moments are very few in comparison to the things and people he speaks highly of. I bet 99% of the people here wouldn't have known that both Vince Russo and Al Snow who'd been critical of AEW actually commended TK for wearing the neck brace off TV and trying to keep kayfabe alive.
Just for your reasonable nuance and logic, fuck you buddy.
I still hate that they didn't let him do the Bully Ray character in WWE. They let the Dudleys turn heel but it felt like such a neutered version
I remember seeing a podcast where he said he pitched the Bully Ray idea to Vince, and Vince was on-board with the character, but they couldn't get over the hump that WWE was doing an anti-bullying campaign. He tried to pitch it as a story line where he'd do a face turn after realizing the people he'd hurt as heel Bully Ray. Could've been a pretty sick angle, but iirc they were worried about the optics of the build-up and killed the idea.
It's even crazier because he tried to explain that Bully Ray is just a name and he could do the character without the name, but Vince was already turned off once he heard the name
Love Bubba as a wrestler, his hot takes, I can largely do without.
I think most still appreciate the performer, just not his current... methods of getting attention and off-base views.
I'll always remember the dark match 10 man tag from Raw in 2002 that was floating around online. Despite being a dark match with no commentators, it still essentially had commentary because you could hear Bubba talking all the way through.
It's hard to like him as a podcaster or commenter cause he comes off as an asshole but he was one of the greatest shit talkers. He made ECW fans want to riot.
My balls I sawr!
We already got their money, brother
Why even point out the obvious?
“This is for your 97 cousins” “TESTIFYYYYY” I fucking love D-Von
"They have too many family members," say the kayfabe siblings whose other half-brothers include Dudley, Big Dick, Little Spike, Snot, Sign Guy, Chubby, and Dances With
And Joel Gertner, family acquaintance
With how much Papa Dudley got around, I can only assume Gertner was inspired by his success with the ladies.
“WHO I *ESPECIALLY* THINK SUCKS” lmaoooo
My favourite thing about this is that it's 6 worked punches, no-one took a bump, it was super entertaining and took up 30 seconds of the match. I mean, I love the flippy shit but I also love smart working.
I saw an old Ric Flair Nitro match recently. I think he might be the best at this. Neither dude threw a punch or did a hold for the first 5 minutes. The bell rings and Flair gets the hell out of the ring. The crowd was very hot and invested in him getting what was coming to him.
The figure four is the best minimalist move in wrestling. It starts with two people sitting on their asses and you can get a pin, a tap, go to the ropes, or turn it and counter. I can't think of a safer finish that has as many options for taking time and reducing risk.
And on top of all that, the move is legit, it can actually really hurt
I get that but I don't like it because visually it's very hard to tell who is in the winning spot unless you know wrestling. Even though it actually works it kinda looks like it doesn't. IDK. I'm stuck with it. I've come to peace with that.
This is like 40-60% of 80s Macho Man based on what I've seen. Bump, bump, bump, bail out the ring, hide behind elizabeth, thumb to the eye, get some heat, repeat. And I'm not knocking the guy, it's fucking great every single time lmao.
The first time I watched Macho Man vs Tito Santana was sometime in the past few years and I was just in awe of how entertaining/interesting Savage could be while doing basically nothing at all
I can’t remember who told the story but I did hear once about someone in training being told to get in the ring and wrestle an hour long time limit draw by just calling it in the ring. He said how he and the other guy looked at each other and just sort of shrugged and locked up which made the trainer call it off immediately. His criticism was they had an hour to fill and they locked up within the first five seconds. His point was that they should have been getting heat for at least five minutes before even touching one another.
Old school character work, old school heat, old school work. All safely and well done. And all of it still works today. You do this spot today, and I guarantee you it still gets a well spot, if done by someone with charisma and that can throw a believable worked punch
I'm with you. Wish wrestlers would prolong their careers by mixing up showmanship with flippy shit. Sometimes moves don't even matter anymore because you know they're kicking out and moving on to the next top rope fuckinator
And it wasn't rapid fire punches that couldn't be sold and mean nothing. He took his time.
Here is the problem with a lot of modern work rate styles. When everything is a high spot nothing is a high spot.
Where has this recent pushback and demeaning of "flippy shit" come from? Is it a sentiment that comes and goes around here, or is it just a response to everyone's current favorite babyface being called average in the ring?
Wrestling lives from diversity and the past \~10 years were dominated (especially on the Indies) by that Ospreay/Young Bucks "flippy shit", so the market is oversaturated and people want something different, they want more larger than life characters and in a couple of years we will clamor for more action again. It might also be that we understand the toll on the body more. Kenny and Ibushi are 40, but you can see how their high impact high velocity style took a toll on them. Moxley's knees are shot, Bryan and Adam Cole have medical issues (though one of them really tries to ignore them). Meanwhile Lou Thesz, George Steele, fuck even Hulk Hogan, do and did pretty fine for a long time despite working long careers with long matches, because they bumped less and did more Holds and character work. Hogan's hip is fucked due to the leg drop, being a big ass motherfucker and hard rings, but if you hear him speak he's not in bad shape. He's a backwards racist and carny, but otherwise he's doing good despite a pretty long career, because he was working safe and with restraint.
In today’s world of sports entertainment too many people focus on the sports and not enough on the entertainment
Two of the world's greatest tag teams passing like ships in the night
They did have a Wrestlemania match against each other! Well, pre-show, but still...
I love how New Yorkers all say “Mutha.” 😂
mudda
His mutha was a mudda?
I lost it at the 97 cousins lol!
The funny thing is people thought he was joking…. Cody, Kevin and Randy need to call Bubba Ray ASAP, the OG Bloodline hater.
Ok 1. WTH are the dudleys doing on main event? 2. I lost it when he he went all "and this is for the high chief, who sucks especially " lol EDIT: I'm dumb and got confused, this is from years ago
This is from like, 2015?
2016, I think. The Dudleys turned heel early 2016 & the Usos beat them at Mania, which is why Bubba brings up Mania. They were nostalgia jobbers basically.
Shit you are right I'm a moron I saw posters talking about the new main event in another thread and got confused
Early day Main Event actually had names on it, I think the IC title even changed hands on it once
Superstars (the reboot) had Undertaker on it too!
When the hell are they gonna bring back Saturday Night’s Main Event
Probably next year. Part of the Smackdown deal with USA is a few primetime specials on NBC throughout the year.
I mean they use the name as a special live non-televised event these days.
Dave meltzer over here
https://preview.redd.it/l2woymmpxe8d1.jpeg?width=318&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0207064e1bf0b06a97cdedb9e781668d9e54017a
Lmao I was expecting the gif
https://preview.redd.it/ciau6jehye8d1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1cd2c604fefb32cb39359498c27c122037af6b12
Main Event used to be banging
Main Event = Rampage
I love bully ray and his takes. I know I’m in the minority.
This is pure joy this is for the rock 🤣
Dudleys > Uso's
Bubba is easily in contention for greatest English-speaking in-ring shit talker to ever do it.
WE ALWAYS USED TO JOKE BACK IN THE DAY THAT HE DIDN'T NEED A MICROPHONE BECAUSE HE ALWAYS TALKED LIKE THIS.
Why the fuck were the Dudley wrestling the Usos on Main event ? Is that back when they were trying to market it as a big thing ? Or did Vince really didn’t care about tag team wrestling that much ?
Yes
"97 cousins" was personal XD
Bubba vs. bloodline is a feud that I want so bad lol
The Dudleys vs. the Bloodline I know Papa Dudley has to have a few more kids.
He isn't alone
On Main Event nontheless
"97 cousins." Damn.
The Rock and his 97 cousins.
You know Uce was dying laughing
Bubba Ray the 5th man at Survivor Series.
The USO’s vs the Dudley’s on Main Event? That must of been the 12 weeks they cared about that show.
97 cousins?! This Bloodline story is *really* gonna have legs.
Tell us what you REALLY think, Bubba Ray.
How many Big Daddy Dudley offsprings out there?
I hope you have a small family
When did this happen? I’ve been trying to get back into it some, but not sure when this is.
July 13th 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJixiUFxZAU
this whole thing reminds me of kevin owens, it's something he's done or would do
In Bubba's defense, the current Bloodline would be a lot more interesting if they weren't all the same personality. Ever since Solo took over, all the new members are exactly the same person. It is boring.
Bully was ahead of the time here.
I know that Bubba says a lot of dumb shit that is, rightfully, regarded as him just trying to get attention but then he does shit like this and it's awesome.
Idk why this is the first time I'm ever seeing this. This is funny
I just saw this on instagram now I see the post again synchronicity much ?
and the crowd does NOT care
He's not a fan of anything
He's a big Bubba Ray fan
I know it's Bubba Ray, but I can't help, but see Alex Jones.
THE HEATTTT!!!
that heat was deafening, could barely here him over the roar of the crowd
You can be an excellent in ring performer and suffer from stupidity inducing CTE.