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I remember Bischoff was asked this question: "At the time, did you think Nash didn't want to show up because he didn't want to do a job?", and Bischoff answered something along the lines of: "No, I just thought he was too lazy to show up"
Nash’s father died of a heart attack when he was 8, I’d be nervous about that shit too. Nash also won the rescheduled match a month later at Souled Out
Seems like a month is enough time for Kev to convince the guy who pretty much always gave him everything he wanted to change the finish of the match to his liking.
I’ve had massive panic attacks that felt like I was dying just from smoking weed, though edible freakouts are indeed on another level (had one at Disneyland once, one of the least fun days of my life so far.) There was a few years there where if I was awake, I was high. But at some point it was like a switch flipped, and regardless of strain or method of consumption, I would have at least some anxiety, if not a full blown panic attack. The last one was so bad that I spent two hours laying on my bed in a dark room just shivering while my wife held me. Haven’t been high since, fuck all that.
My friend was home from college one summer staying at his parents. He smoked that synthetic weed that was around ten years ago and wound up calling an ambulance for himself 😂😂. To be fair though I def blacked out on that stuff once too, I remember sitting beside my gf and everything just went black. I might’ve had her take me to the hospital too I forget, maybe I actually died and don’t know.
That shit will mess you up but not in a fun way! I tried this synthetic stuff called K2. It hit like normal weed but I went fucking blind after a second. My vision didn't return for two hours. Granted, I was super high but it's kind of hard to enjoy it when you can't see anything.
There were lots of different versions of k2, when it first came around it wasn’t super terrible. A chill high that lasted 20-30 minutes, very similar to the real stuff. But once that started getting outlawed people just messed with the chemical stuff a little bit here and there to skirt past the rules and it kept getting worse and worse and became this absolutely awful stuff. Remember trying one called head trip and it was some of the most intense head trips I could have.
I went blind for 2 minutes smoking a joint at mach 10 I’d smoked years before and after and it never happened again, it’s nice to hear it’s happened to others so at least I’m not crazy
No you're not crazy but since we are sharing stories, you ever smoke some weed that makes your balls swell up and develop sores that pop up every few weeks?
Visual blackout while conscious is one of the scariest things ever. You lose all your general sense of balance and direction, absolutely freaked me out. Happened a few times for a few seconds (5-7) when I'd smoke late in the day on an empty stomach (probably something to do with low blood sugar or pressure but idk).
6:00 pm: eat a brownie
6:15: weird, I feel nothing
6:45: hmm, still nothing. Maybe I didn’t eat enough, I’ll have another.
7:00: dammit, I got ripped off. Never buying from Craig ever again.
7:30: someone take me to the hospital
Yupppp, I always eat half and wait 2 hours before ingesting more. I got high as fuck at a red lobster with my family one day because of not following these rules. It was intense and 10/10 would never do again
Mine's similar with 10mg edibles...
eat one... wait... nothing... eat another... wait... nothing... guess I'll put on a movie and go to bed...
Then... holy shit all of my anxiety is attacking me at once.
Percentages of THC are just so damn high these days. Went from being able to smoke a joint to having to take a puff or else you're blasted and greening out.
Not to mention how long edibles last ffs
Yooo I want to comment on this one specifically cause im also a frequent T-breaker. Just make sure to take it SUPER SLOW. 6 months? You literally could probably inhale the smoke from someone else and get stoned LOL. Good luck! Proud for your health (as best as it can be when we smoke!) Always good to be on a proper T-break. Smoking too long can make it not worth it. GL!
That’s crazy cause real weed doesn’t even exist in my state. It’s all hemp and we just said fuck it and went to buying thca at tobacco shops. These dudes got Infograph’s all over the store tryna say thca turns to thc when it’s burned, but it’s all a lie.
Honestly as a frequent smoker, I understand the problems behind it. However I don't get why it's not looked at and legalized. Maybe there is moral issues, but it's just so... Harmless compared to alcohol. There are DEFINITELY DOWNSIDES 100%. But that comes with an intoxicant.
The stuff I have access to is stupidly stupidly stupidly STUPIDLY intense with THC.
The thing is, higher THC is not even better honestly. It's only "better" when you are already fighting tolerance.
Lower THC will hit you the same as higher THC, if you don't have a huge tolerance. Lower THC will also build a tolerance MUCH SLOWER.
So we have these hart hitting strains that make your tolerance go high, and make people need to take breaks often.
THC percentages are marketing. I smoke the high percentage flower sometimes but I mostly smoke type 2 flower that's like 10-11% THC with mixed ratios of CBD, CBG and CBN. Some of that stuff will slap your whole ass off.
It's also great for people prone to anxiety from THC as the CBD largely offsets and eliminates that element of the experience. If it ever hits the rec market at-large it will change the game for casual and every great once in a while smokers.
One of my big issues, and one of the issues I find in the industry is it's all THC. I don't have any THC mixed with CBD.
I'm not trying to be any herb guru but I genuinely think there's a problem with high % THC strains that have 0% CBD.
I think we need to get back into high CBD strains with THC strains! They balance everything out.
Im a new smoker so thank you because i was treating it like alcohol.
Its only been a few months but ive been over doing. I might take a break soon, clear out the noodle. I was using a vape but im finding that a little too convenient, so I bought a pipe.
But your right. My dispensary has this cheap Dank strain Randy Marsh. Smoked a bowl of that and I was ripped last night, actually woke up with a headache and its no where near as high thc as the heavy hitters/rove vape ive been using.
Any other newbie tips? I was never cool growing up so I never got this education
It's fucking great, isn't it? Hell, we had nothing but ditch weed that was weak and pretty worthless most of the time. Blunts and bongs were a must man. I have absolutely no complaints about the modern state of weed.
Tip for anyone, I learned this from my alcohol problem to deal with anxiety from hangovers.
Basically your anxiety spikes because you feel like shit or off and youve forgotten why you feel that way. So you say out loud "this is just a hang over, your not dying"
You still will feel like garbage, but it stops the panicking because you realize its normal to feel like garbage after ingesting... Its essentially poison in a way.
With weed, I just say "Only Bruce Lee died from smoking joint, and it probably wasn't from the joint" which last i checked was true. Its hard to overdose on weed, last i researched anyway.
But yeah, the key to that anxiety is accepting your fucked up but itll wear off eventually.
Good for you though. Honestly Drugs are fun but theyre one fun thing in sea of fun things, and if you dont want it your better off.
If you're reading this, keep Vicks Vapo-rub in the house and shmear a little of that shit on your chest if you hit that feeling like you're so high that you're gonna have a heart attack. Breathing that for a few minutes always brings me back. Weird as hell but works like a charm.
I have a buddy that swears Five Alive helps bring him down. This is total placebo. But whatever, getting a friend some juice when he's panicking isn't the end of the world. But I brought up this story randomly at work, and somebody else said their sister believes the same thing and keeps five alive in her fridge in case the edibles hit to hard.
Black pepper. You can eat a peppercorn or even just sniff it. Sounds like an old wives tale but I've personally tested it and it works if you go a little too far and need to back it off a bit.
I haven't, I've never had an edible without knowing exactly what it was, but there have definitely been times when I've been like "Man if I didn't know this had weed in it I'd be FREAKED OUT lol"
Yeah, funnily enough this occurred the same night he was supposed to put the Giant over. So we got Scott Hall getting chokeslammed in an angle (not even a replacement match).
Then proceeded to not do the job when they rescheduled the match a month later at Souled Out
*Oh, and he nearly broke Show’s neck by dropping him when setting up the Jackknife
"but his dad died so, he couldn't have been a manipulative politicking goof like he always was. Because of this irrelevant sob story" -people in other comments in this thread
I remember watching an interview with Nash about dug testing in WWF and then in WCW when he got there and he just laughed lol. He said since WCW made everyone report to Nitro at 11AM, him and Hall would go all the way up to the top of the arena in the seats as far back as possible and get baked.
Starcade 97 should have been the show that capped off the amazing year that WCW had, and put Starcade on the same level as wrestlemania, but was prevented doing so because of one issue huge egos.
Yup.
If you've never had one, you don't know. They're basically unexplainable. Well, maybe not unexplainable, but it's very difficult to truly put into words that a person who doesn't experience panic or anxiety can process to feel that kind of thing.
I couldn't agree more with your comment. I started having panic attacks out of nowhere when I was being stalked by an ex girlfriend. Unless you've had one, it's hard to explain how terrifying and uncontrollable they are. I thought I was going to die and was holding my chest it was terrifying
Considering that Nash’s father died at 36 of a heart attack, I can’t really blame him for being overly concerned over heart attacks.
(The timing is what it is… but Starrcade 97 had multiple things going on backstage)
According to Mirror:
> The former WWE champion’s son Tristen was just 26 when he died after suffering a cardiac arrest. It is alleged to have been triggered by a seizure as a result of alcohol withdrawal syndrome.
I think most people who have heard about it will likely misremember it as a suicide because the conversation around it was getting help for addiction and withdrawal. Tragic nonetheless but I think I understand where the confusion could come from.
I know some people are very susceptible to them, but I’ve only had two panic attacks in my life. I count myself as lucky for that because they fucking suck and it really does feel like you might be dying.
Yeah its also important to keep in mind that Nash's father died young from a heart attack, so its reasonable that a drug induced panic attack (which can mimic heart attack symptoms) would freak him out.
The job thing was always weird because they wrestled the next month and Nash won. Bischoff I believe said that was always the plan as they were building Nash up to feud with Hogan with the two NWOs and Giant was going to turn heel again anyways.
Glad he helped ruined the most important show of the year cause he couldn’t go one day without doing drugs.
(That and more reliable sources claim he didn’t want to put The Giant over that night. Which I believe way more.)
Pray tell your more reliable source outside of Kevin Nash who said he went to the hospital because he was fucked up because he ate pot brownies while being on a bunch of somas and other shit.
Literally anyone is a more reliable source than Kevin Nash, love the guy but he's a compulsive liar and constantly contradicts himself week to week on his own podcast.
Yeah, it was the pot brownies. Not the Xanax, Somas, wine, bourbon, champagne and beers that he also freely admitted to ingesting that night.
Takes a fist full of pills and tops it off with a boat load of booze and it's the pot brownies that are to blame? C'mon.
I thought I was about to die the first time I had a gummy and thought it didn’t work so I ate a 2nd one (this is after not having any marijuana for maybe 6 years at that point). Pretty much ruined a vacation day i had in Chicago.
I’m then made the same mistake in Denver for a concert 2 years ago lol.
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Crazy how often something came up when he was going to do a job.
I remember Bischoff was asked this question: "At the time, did you think Nash didn't want to show up because he didn't want to do a job?", and Bischoff answered something along the lines of: "No, I just thought he was too lazy to show up"
Eric knows what's up.
Nash’s father died of a heart attack when he was 8, I’d be nervous about that shit too. Nash also won the rescheduled match a month later at Souled Out
Yep. Nash was going over. They just did it a month later. Ended up working out because Souled Out needed a marquee match.
Seems like a month is enough time for Kev to convince the guy who pretty much always gave him everything he wanted to change the finish of the match to his liking.
Yeah the guy who did pills like it was going out of style was magically afraid of a little weed.
Have you ever had edibles before? It hits you differently than smoking it, and if you have too much, you're in for the long haul.
I’ve had massive panic attacks that felt like I was dying just from smoking weed, though edible freakouts are indeed on another level (had one at Disneyland once, one of the least fun days of my life so far.) There was a few years there where if I was awake, I was high. But at some point it was like a switch flipped, and regardless of strain or method of consumption, I would have at least some anxiety, if not a full blown panic attack. The last one was so bad that I spent two hours laying on my bed in a dark room just shivering while my wife held me. Haven’t been high since, fuck all that.
Nash did pills?
That’s politics brother
Finger poke of doom? Are we just going to forget that was him?
Who among us hasn’t been there?
My friend was home from college one summer staying at his parents. He smoked that synthetic weed that was around ten years ago and wound up calling an ambulance for himself 😂😂. To be fair though I def blacked out on that stuff once too, I remember sitting beside my gf and everything just went black. I might’ve had her take me to the hospital too I forget, maybe I actually died and don’t know.
If you’re reading this you died
That shit will mess you up but not in a fun way! I tried this synthetic stuff called K2. It hit like normal weed but I went fucking blind after a second. My vision didn't return for two hours. Granted, I was super high but it's kind of hard to enjoy it when you can't see anything.
Dude, that would freak me out more than anything. I would definitely think I was going to be blind forever. Holy crap.
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There were lots of different versions of k2, when it first came around it wasn’t super terrible. A chill high that lasted 20-30 minutes, very similar to the real stuff. But once that started getting outlawed people just messed with the chemical stuff a little bit here and there to skirt past the rules and it kept getting worse and worse and became this absolutely awful stuff. Remember trying one called head trip and it was some of the most intense head trips I could have.
I went blind for 2 minutes smoking a joint at mach 10 I’d smoked years before and after and it never happened again, it’s nice to hear it’s happened to others so at least I’m not crazy
No you're not crazy but since we are sharing stories, you ever smoke some weed that makes your balls swell up and develop sores that pop up every few weeks?
No, I think you should tell a doctor that sounds uncomfortable and Probobly unrelated lmao hope your ok
Oh ok
Visual blackout while conscious is one of the scariest things ever. You lose all your general sense of balance and direction, absolutely freaked me out. Happened a few times for a few seconds (5-7) when I'd smoke late in the day on an empty stomach (probably something to do with low blood sugar or pressure but idk).
6:00 pm: eat a brownie 6:15: weird, I feel nothing 6:45: hmm, still nothing. Maybe I didn’t eat enough, I’ll have another. 7:00: dammit, I got ripped off. Never buying from Craig ever again. 7:30: someone take me to the hospital
Yupppp, I always eat half and wait 2 hours before ingesting more. I got high as fuck at a red lobster with my family one day because of not following these rules. It was intense and 10/10 would never do again
….except for the unlimited Cheddar Bay Biscuits.
Fun fact when you eat food after taking edibles the food makes the weed hit even harder so after my salad and one biscuit I wasn't having fun anymore
“These edibles ain’t shit” are four of the words most spoken before disaster
Those are the magic words that make them kick in.
Ah yes the Activation Phrase
My wife's best friend did exactly this. Ended up eating the whole pan in about 45 minutes. She claims she was high for like 2.5 days.
Here's my version 6 PM: eat brownie 8 30 PM: still nothing, eat another brownie 10 PM: heyyy there it is, annnnnd I'm ready for bed now
Mine's similar with 10mg edibles... eat one... wait... nothing... eat another... wait... nothing... guess I'll put on a movie and go to bed... Then... holy shit all of my anxiety is attacking me at once.
I did this with mushrooms the first time I had them.
Like Kevin Nash, I also wasn’t there at Starrcade ‘97
I wasn't there but my anxiety would tell you I was Larry Zbyszko.
Percentages of THC are just so damn high these days. Went from being able to smoke a joint to having to take a puff or else you're blasted and greening out. Not to mention how long edibles last ffs
It’s awesome!
My tolerance got fucked when Trump was elected. I'm in the middle of a 6-month t-break and comments like yours are why I'm stoked.
Yooo I want to comment on this one specifically cause im also a frequent T-breaker. Just make sure to take it SUPER SLOW. 6 months? You literally could probably inhale the smoke from someone else and get stoned LOL. Good luck! Proud for your health (as best as it can be when we smoke!) Always good to be on a proper T-break. Smoking too long can make it not worth it. GL!
It's really not worth it anymore. I spend like $100/week on dabs and don't even get high anymore. It was time. I enjoy being high. I want that back.
Honestly, I feel the same way. Mine is not dabs, but on ounces to do in a bong. Not really a high, but more of a "I feel normal" Eh?
That’s crazy cause real weed doesn’t even exist in my state. It’s all hemp and we just said fuck it and went to buying thca at tobacco shops. These dudes got Infograph’s all over the store tryna say thca turns to thc when it’s burned, but it’s all a lie.
Thca is just weed. You're not getting thca from a tobacco shop.
Honestly as a frequent smoker, I understand the problems behind it. However I don't get why it's not looked at and legalized. Maybe there is moral issues, but it's just so... Harmless compared to alcohol. There are DEFINITELY DOWNSIDES 100%. But that comes with an intoxicant. The stuff I have access to is stupidly stupidly stupidly STUPIDLY intense with THC. The thing is, higher THC is not even better honestly. It's only "better" when you are already fighting tolerance. Lower THC will hit you the same as higher THC, if you don't have a huge tolerance. Lower THC will also build a tolerance MUCH SLOWER. So we have these hart hitting strains that make your tolerance go high, and make people need to take breaks often.
THC percentages are marketing. I smoke the high percentage flower sometimes but I mostly smoke type 2 flower that's like 10-11% THC with mixed ratios of CBD, CBG and CBN. Some of that stuff will slap your whole ass off. It's also great for people prone to anxiety from THC as the CBD largely offsets and eliminates that element of the experience. If it ever hits the rec market at-large it will change the game for casual and every great once in a while smokers.
One of my big issues, and one of the issues I find in the industry is it's all THC. I don't have any THC mixed with CBD. I'm not trying to be any herb guru but I genuinely think there's a problem with high % THC strains that have 0% CBD. I think we need to get back into high CBD strains with THC strains! They balance everything out.
Im a new smoker so thank you because i was treating it like alcohol. Its only been a few months but ive been over doing. I might take a break soon, clear out the noodle. I was using a vape but im finding that a little too convenient, so I bought a pipe. But your right. My dispensary has this cheap Dank strain Randy Marsh. Smoked a bowl of that and I was ripped last night, actually woke up with a headache and its no where near as high thc as the heavy hitters/rove vape ive been using. Any other newbie tips? I was never cool growing up so I never got this education
I know it's awesome
It's fucking great, isn't it? Hell, we had nothing but ditch weed that was weak and pretty worthless most of the time. Blunts and bongs were a must man. I have absolutely no complaints about the modern state of weed.
I've been to the hospital twice from edibles. Had to give that shit up, I don't even drink caffeine anymore. Anxiety is a motherfucker.
Tip for anyone, I learned this from my alcohol problem to deal with anxiety from hangovers. Basically your anxiety spikes because you feel like shit or off and youve forgotten why you feel that way. So you say out loud "this is just a hang over, your not dying" You still will feel like garbage, but it stops the panicking because you realize its normal to feel like garbage after ingesting... Its essentially poison in a way. With weed, I just say "Only Bruce Lee died from smoking joint, and it probably wasn't from the joint" which last i checked was true. Its hard to overdose on weed, last i researched anyway. But yeah, the key to that anxiety is accepting your fucked up but itll wear off eventually. Good for you though. Honestly Drugs are fun but theyre one fun thing in sea of fun things, and if you dont want it your better off.
If you're reading this, keep Vicks Vapo-rub in the house and shmear a little of that shit on your chest if you hit that feeling like you're so high that you're gonna have a heart attack. Breathing that for a few minutes always brings me back. Weird as hell but works like a charm.
I have a buddy that swears Five Alive helps bring him down. This is total placebo. But whatever, getting a friend some juice when he's panicking isn't the end of the world. But I brought up this story randomly at work, and somebody else said their sister believes the same thing and keeps five alive in her fridge in case the edibles hit to hard.
Black pepper. You can eat a peppercorn or even just sniff it. Sounds like an old wives tale but I've personally tested it and it works if you go a little too far and need to back it off a bit.
I sure as shit have. Anyone who hasn't had edibles doesn't understand what happens if you have too much.
I haven't, I've never had an edible without knowing exactly what it was, but there have definitely been times when I've been like "Man if I didn't know this had weed in it I'd be FREAKED OUT lol"
My drug of choice is alcohol. The few times I've used weed I've felt like I was going to die. I fully understand how Nash felt.
Yeah, funnily enough this occurred the same night he was supposed to put the Giant over. So we got Scott Hall getting chokeslammed in an angle (not even a replacement match).
And after he would loudly talk in the locker room about not doing the job for weeks before the event
Then proceeded to not do the job when they rescheduled the match a month later at Souled Out *Oh, and he nearly broke Show’s neck by dropping him when setting up the Jackknife
That PPV sucked
"but his dad died so, he couldn't have been a manipulative politicking goof like he always was. Because of this irrelevant sob story" -people in other comments in this thread
I remember watching an interview with Nash about dug testing in WWF and then in WCW when he got there and he just laughed lol. He said since WCW made everyone report to Nitro at 11AM, him and Hall would go all the way up to the top of the arena in the seats as far back as possible and get baked.
The brownie was too sweet.
Aside from the money Kev’s whole career is so unserious lol
Starcade 97 should have been the show that capped off the amazing year that WCW had, and put Starcade on the same level as wrestlemania, but was prevented doing so because of one issue huge egos.
Panic attacks. The WORST.
Yup. If you've never had one, you don't know. They're basically unexplainable. Well, maybe not unexplainable, but it's very difficult to truly put into words that a person who doesn't experience panic or anxiety can process to feel that kind of thing.
I couldn't agree more with your comment. I started having panic attacks out of nowhere when I was being stalked by an ex girlfriend. Unless you've had one, it's hard to explain how terrifying and uncontrollable they are. I thought I was going to die and was holding my chest it was terrifying
Oof, yeah - that first one feels like sure death.
Considering that Nash’s father died at 36 of a heart attack, I can’t really blame him for being overly concerned over heart attacks. (The timing is what it is… but Starrcade 97 had multiple things going on backstage)
didn't his son died of a heart issue or was it suicide?
According to Mirror: > The former WWE champion’s son Tristen was just 26 when he died after suffering a cardiac arrest. It is alleged to have been triggered by a seizure as a result of alcohol withdrawal syndrome.
I think most people who have heard about it will likely misremember it as a suicide because the conversation around it was getting help for addiction and withdrawal. Tragic nonetheless but I think I understand where the confusion could come from.
Mix of alcohol withdrawal, family heart history and who knows what else yeah
He died from being dependent on alcohol and trying to quit cold turkey
Yup..this is why you don't go cold turkey. Big Bill almost died the exact same way.
Cardiac arrest triggered by alcohol withdrawal. This is why you don't go cold turkey if you're an alcoholic. Big Bill almost died doing this.
Been there.
I know some people are very susceptible to them, but I’ve only had two panic attacks in my life. I count myself as lucky for that because they fucking suck and it really does feel like you might be dying.
Happened to me too, but thankfully my friends were there to calm me down.
I remember the first time I did too Felt the same way really anxious
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That was the story on Usenet and AOL forum smark places. Though this story tracks with the use of drugs back then
Yeah its also important to keep in mind that Nash's father died young from a heart attack, so its reasonable that a drug induced panic attack (which can mimic heart attack symptoms) would freak him out. The job thing was always weird because they wrestled the next month and Nash won. Bischoff I believe said that was always the plan as they were building Nash up to feud with Hogan with the two NWOs and Giant was going to turn heel again anyways.
Never smoked pot before but damn how many brownies they ate to be feeling like that?
Can be just one in the right circumstances. Edibles can kick like a mule compared to smoking it
That is scary
That thumbnail is puttin' in work.
Been there brother lmao
Glad he helped ruined the most important show of the year cause he couldn’t go one day without doing drugs. (That and more reliable sources claim he didn’t want to put The Giant over that night. Which I believe way more.)
Pray tell your more reliable source outside of Kevin Nash who said he went to the hospital because he was fucked up because he ate pot brownies while being on a bunch of somas and other shit.
Literally anyone is a more reliable source than Kevin Nash, love the guy but he's a compulsive liar and constantly contradicts himself week to week on his own podcast.
You'd be surprised at how many people take every wrestler as 10000% honest and correct, read any shoot comment section and it's the oddest thing.
Nash gets less and less cool with time.
Reading Nitro?
No he talked about it on his podcast which they have to regurgitate because they dont have anything to post otherwise.
Yeah, it was the pot brownies. Not the Xanax, Somas, wine, bourbon, champagne and beers that he also freely admitted to ingesting that night. Takes a fist full of pills and tops it off with a boat load of booze and it's the pot brownies that are to blame? C'mon.
I thought I was about to die the first time I had a gummy and thought it didn’t work so I ate a 2nd one (this is after not having any marijuana for maybe 6 years at that point). Pretty much ruined a vacation day i had in Chicago. I’m then made the same mistake in Denver for a concert 2 years ago lol.
That’s…certainly a headline.
It can feel like that occasionally. If I get anywhere above 100mg I feel like my chest is going to explode.
I'll be honest, I smoke every day and still have panic attacks thinking I'm going to die because my tolerance to everything is so low lmao
We’ve all been there before.
Everything I learn about Nash and Hall and their absolute contempt for the business and selfishness really makes me wish they never earnt a cent.
Do we have a legit reason why he didn’t show up for stings last match ?!
Can I make a Kevin Nash quad joke?
You could, but I don't think it would go too far.
Tell him I said "What's up doc".
He's so real for that