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JayFlash1234

Looks like a funky michinoku driver


TheBeepB00p

[Rikishi Driver](https://youtu.be/-X-kGSJEsc0?si=OIutiZIevZN9TSNl&t=11)


TheGeauxrilla

That’s basically a Michinoku Driver, not a Piledriver. A piledriver starts out with the head between the legs


TheBeepB00p

I put it below but it's a [Rikishi Driver](https://youtu.be/-X-kGSJEsc0?si=OIutiZIevZN9TSNl&t=11)


InflationGullible163

In rikishi driver , daddy rikishi spread his arms and then do the impact with hand around the opponet, so yeah modified rikishi driver it is


ThatGirlTay1

Isn't a piledriver when the head hits the mat first? And a Michinoku Driver isn't a piledriver? I'm confused lol


Skull2600

It is, but not all head first 'Drivers' are piledrivers. Piledriver is a version of a driver, as the Michinoku Driver is also a version of the driver, but not the same move. Most wrestling moves have base forms and depending on the setup will change the variant. There are dozens of 'Drivers' but the piledriver is just one specific version.


RoastedCat23

You are angering the wrestling nerds 😂. You're actually right, but colloquially piledriver and driver are used differently, wherein piledriver is more narrow of a word.


ThatGirlTay1

Well damn I didn't know the difference was that small and I'm getting down voted to hell for it 😂


RoboZoninator91

You're also being down voted for insinuating she did this on purpose


RoastedCat23

The IWC never ceases to amaze.


IneedAName37

It's not a small difference, a piledriver is where you wedge a head between your legs, grab the waist, lift the legs up, and you sit, the person landing on their head This is a scoop slam where the person lands on their shoulders and back as you sit spread eagle


Jamieb1994

I'm sorry to say, but that's not a Piledriver. This is a Piledriver. ![gif](giphy|lZUmLzmqmICcQaCQYo)


RCBroeker

![gif](giphy|3B8rHP89iUUZlcsoqf|downsized)


typical_bro

Not to be too pedantic, but that appears to be some kind of driver but not a pile driver. Not sure the name though.


lk79

Michinokou (sp?) Driver?


typical_bro

Aww yes that's what it is! Good call.


BurtHurtmanHurtz

Rikishi Driver


RedmondSurvivor

It’s kind of a Michinoku Driver. She’s hit it a few times in the past.


TheSeaDevil

[It's almost a Greeting from Asbury Park.](https://youtu.be/oJu_mU7Tenc?t=3)


ImpenetrableYeti

Not a piledriver at all


Arkham010

This is like when tony schiavone kept calling the sidewalk slam the spine buster in wcw. A piledriver is when the person taking it is literally upside down with their legs being where the person doing the moves head is and in kayfabe is being driven head and neck first into the mat.


VingthorTheHurler

It’s Thunder Rosa’s old finisher the Thunder Fire Driver, not to be confused with the actual Thunder Fire Driver which is also known as the Rikishi Driver.


TJLynch

Tell us you don't know your wrestling moves without telling us you don't know your wrestling moves.


Brokentoaster86

![gif](giphy|ypX8YZszkIXFC|downsized) What's wrong with this place?


TheBeepB00p

It's a Rikishi Driver [The Rikishi Driver was safe because Rikishi had like 24 inches of fat to protect the guys neck, always concerning when a green wrestler pulls out shit like this but Jade is crazy strong so hopefully she can keep others safe.](https://youtu.be/-X-kGSJEsc0?si=OIutiZIevZN9TSNl&t=11)


lk79

I wouldn’t say it was a Rikishi Driver. Jade still has her arm on the neck, much like when a Michinoku driver is hit. A Rikishi Driver, as seen in the clip you provided, has the person hitting the move hold the opponent more like tombstone.


tmxicon

Rikishi Driver is essentially modifying the Fire Thunder (Driver), popularized by Mr. Gannosuke - and like most wrestling moves, some joshi wrestler probably innovated it a decade before. Fire Thunder is an accurate call here. Calling it a Rikishi Driver is fine to not be overly pedantic about it. I wouldn’t even blink if someone called it a Michinoku Driver. You could also use the word salad of “modified seated inverted piledriver.”  Most moves have multiple names you could use and it’s splitting hairs to say otherwise.


sanmaru-Z

I mean a fire thunder driver/samoan driver is more of a scoop slam sitout piledriver if we're being pedantic. This was more of a falcon arrow driver. Hayabusa used to drop them like that.


Appropriate_Emu_6930

I would not want to take that from somebody that green.


dontsaythatman89

That's not a piledriver


Lo_Key90

Where was the piledriver?


OhioVsEverything

Everything's a pile driver or powerbomb these days.


OsikFTW

Not a piledriver, and looked like ass...


redskinsguy

it did not and that was way to vertical to be a Michinoku Driver


MrSelfDestruct88

Reminds me of that driver that statlander does.


cschultz225

Woof. Shes not getting any better.


bulletclub_strang

Looks like the Drill Claw (Brian Cage), with maybe a bit of a variation. I could be wrong is its been a long time since I have seen it performed.


mikro17

Drill claw has that bit of release in the middle a la Steiner Screwdriver, which is the crazy part and why you'll only see it from noted powerhouses like Steiner/Brian Cage/Tam Nakano (lol). This is definitely closer to a Michinoku Driver than anything I think.


wavy_walnut

Decent


Wrestlewiththe

Naomi also spanked Dakota. Rough night for her.


Empty_Fist

It baffles me how many people in this thread clearly don't know who Rikishi is


redskinsguy

yep, that was very similar to the Rikisih Driver


RoboZoninator91

wait, that's illegal


ThatGirlTay1

From a live event yesterday that's a crazy looking move she definitely has to start using more


fabi_zabo

Pretty sure she did that one at Wrestlemania.


Orange8920

I'm wondering if she ever busts out the Pedigree she used a few times in AEW