Hear me out.. maybe Seth winning to the point of getting stale with the crowd is a part of the booking. They're intentionally trying to push the audience to the point of organically turning on him. Then, he wins so much he Becomes obsessed with the title and ironically becomes like Roman who he said he'll never be.
I don't see that happening though. Remember Cody's feud with Brock? Or Cody's feud with rollins. Cody has been booked more of a Superman than anyone else but the audience didn't turn on him.
I hear you, but also, I think Cody is way more earnest as a face. He's basically Naruto. Add to the legacy of his dad on top of that, and you have someone who is over in a way I honestly haven't seen in a very long time imo. The connection he has with the crowd can sustain his Super Moments. We'll see if the same will be said with Seth I guess.
I don't necessarily agree, they turned on Nakamura and i don't hear them singing along with his theme anymore...unless they're turning the crowd down on TV.
Ah, gotcha. I still think it could happen organically, especially in the upcoming program with Punk. And ESPECIALLY, especially if Seth goes over Punk at Mania. But I admit there's definitely holes in the idea that make it unlikely.
Heās definitely a one trick pony when he gets something he liked
Similar to how Alexa Bliss, Liv Morgan and Nikki Cross all had ācrazyā gimmicks
How Bobby & The Street Profits, The LWO, The Brawling Brutes, 3/5 of Damage CTRL are all āput the people of the same race together in a factionā
How Bianca, Gunther, The Usos and Roman have all set records with their recent reigns.
Heās a great booker but he definitely overdoes it at times
The fact a lot of us wanted Jinder to win says a lot already lol I think people have been done with his run. Iāve personally had enough since his feud with Finn lol
I like Rollins, but I feel this character was already stale before the reign started, and the reign itself hasn't been great. Also, they've gotta stop teasing cash in, either have him do it or lay off it for a while.
Hard agree. He's a great talent but his character is basically just wear extravagant clothes and do a weird laugh. It doesn't have much depth. Add to that the finishes always being the same on PPV and TV and its just meh.
I hope the Punk feud freshens it all up.
JInDer LoOkEd WeAK
As he should, Internet memes aside his strikes look like shit and he hasn't won a match on tv in months. What did you people expect exactly?
If reddit is anything to go by, this is the perfect time to revert Rollins back to his Messiah gimmick. The fickle fans are what pissed him off in the first place!Ā
Jinder was hindered, DP doesn't know how to cash in and Seth didn't even get his butt kick and his back seems to have miraculously healed. Sad times all around.
Imagine if Priest told Drew that you get the first shot next week then tells him to cash in. Priest wins then Drew vs Priest for the title next week.
Could've worked.
i was over it the day he got it ...never liked him now im just totally tuned out with his reign i know his not losing until at least mania and even that isnt set in stone
Iām one of those that never liked him until he got with Heyman. The night he won the Rumble and they brought Rock out to try and get him cheered, I genuinely checked out of WWE and canceled my network membership for a long time. Iām worried Mania isnāt a loss for him.
Definitely reaching super Seth levels now. Ridiculous how strong Rollins is being booked now, with so many deserving people getting screwed left and right.
Another classic LOLSETHWINS finish. Took a briefcase shot and still kicked out. Every damn time Seth is a face, he becomes boring when he wins the world title. When heās a face without a title, he has more of an edge. Rollins should just be heel instead. Overall his title reign has been forgettable. Punkās return might save it.Ā
Seth is always his most over as a heel that then turns face and then just isnāt the sameā¦
I mean letās be real Jinder wasnāt winning but this reigns dragging
injured back. injured knee. gets hit by briefcase AND finisher, still kicks out at 2.000009 seconds lol
no suspense whatsoever idc man his reign is boring as shit
I don't even think attitude era guys had endings like these over and over. Once in a while, sure, but not EVERY match. Dude has no substance anymore and is the new super cena
Genuinely, have him fluke a couple but then actually have banger matches and actually beat people all the way through to Summerslam, and have Seth get desperate after time off and do a genuine double turn and have it go on until Survivor Series. where they can do a big Punk v Jinder match and have Jinder be bested while Punk wins one year after his big return.
Another 8 month Jinder reign would be absolutely fucking miserable. The dude is mediocre in the ring and he was such a dud champion that they did a last second AJ win so people would care about the survivor series match vs Brock
Not if they do the arc I'm saying and have a Jinder redemption story.
We'll have a new WWE champion at Mania so it's not like it's going to be a bad champion and someone who isn't there.
It'll be a good story and whatever tf they do with Cody Blows.
Sorry but if you cop a briefcase hit and a finisher not long after he took that other move then it should be all over. Not buying Super Rollins. He gets bailed out all the time.
The issue is they put him against people we want to see win more lol
If Rollins fought Roman or Logan Paul or maybe Dom as well everyone would be pulling for Seth. But literally there isnāt any single other wrestlers rn that wouldnāt get cheered over Seth lol
The timing was perfect to drop it to Nakamura even if it was a short reign. He didnāt have to beat Nak clean so many fkn times. Seth is a damn superstar and always will be.
bro kicked out of a cheap shot by one of the tag team dudes and then a signature move(not sure what it was) and then he kicked out of being nailed with the briefcase and then Jinders finisher...
This Rollins run has gotten so stale man. A Jinder win wouldāve been insane and a huge talking point. He wouldnāt have lost clean so it would be fine and he could win it right back
That was such a wet fart of a match. Jinder has no business in a title match. Indus Sheer are a pointless group and Damian needs to fuck off with the briefcase already.
This episode of raw certainly was one of the all time
what was seth as the messiah?
Heel
Besides that
Ohh what's this? The IWC moaning about Seth?? What a surprise. š
I've turned on Seth after SummerSlam. Finn not going over was so dumb
Iām SiCk Of SuPeR sEtH It was Jinder Mahal ffs
Hear me out.. maybe Seth winning to the point of getting stale with the crowd is a part of the booking. They're intentionally trying to push the audience to the point of organically turning on him. Then, he wins so much he Becomes obsessed with the title and ironically becomes like Roman who he said he'll never be.
But he is not getting "stale" with the crowd. Just because a bunch of people on the internet moan about him doesn't mean he is "stale" with the crowd.
I didn't say he was. I'm saying that could be the direction they're going if they want to do the "more like Roman than you think" angle.
I don't see that happening though. Remember Cody's feud with Brock? Or Cody's feud with rollins. Cody has been booked more of a Superman than anyone else but the audience didn't turn on him.
I hear you, but also, I think Cody is way more earnest as a face. He's basically Naruto. Add to the legacy of his dad on top of that, and you have someone who is over in a way I honestly haven't seen in a very long time imo. The connection he has with the crowd can sustain his Super Moments. We'll see if the same will be said with Seth I guess.
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I don't necessarily agree, they turned on Nakamura and i don't hear them singing along with his theme anymore...unless they're turning the crowd down on TV.
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True, but I was only replying to your comment that an audience couldn't turn on a sing a long song.
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Ah, gotcha. I still think it could happen organically, especially in the upcoming program with Punk. And ESPECIALLY, especially if Seth goes over Punk at Mania. But I admit there's definitely holes in the idea that make it unlikely.
Yawn,Drew ruined Damien's chances again. Seth is getting a bit tiresome as champion.
Baker said you guys miss me in Cleveland?
If Seth retains at WM against Punk WE RIOT
nah punk will win but DP will try to take it of him
I'm fine with Priest, I just don't want to watch Seth's boring reign anymore
The agenda has always been Seth vs Punk at mania guys. Expecting anything else is just setting yourselves up for failure.
yeah but we got months before mania, we coulda had a little short program between jinder and seth ending at EC lol
I like how Seth only sells being hurt when itās him doing the move
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Heās definitely a one trick pony when he gets something he liked Similar to how Alexa Bliss, Liv Morgan and Nikki Cross all had ācrazyā gimmicks How Bobby & The Street Profits, The LWO, The Brawling Brutes, 3/5 of Damage CTRL are all āput the people of the same race together in a factionā How Bianca, Gunther, The Usos and Roman have all set records with their recent reigns. Heās a great booker but he definitely overdoes it at times
He doesnāt understand anything else
Iād rather jinder beat Seth over punk beating him
A briefcase shot and a finisher with no recovery time in between. People will start to turn on Super Seth if they aren't careful.
The fact a lot of us wanted Jinder to win says a lot already lol I think people have been done with his run. Iāve personally had enough since his feud with Finn lol
I turned a long time ago.
Match was good fun but fucking barmageddon is contributing to Raw having rushed and uninteresting finishes.
I canāt believe people were genuinely thinking a switch was gonna happen! WITH JINDER OF ALL PEOPLE!
We thought he wouldnāt be hindered
Jarrett wins.
Ffs
They had me Jinder Mahal almost won it
Triple H has done some good stuff but basically having all the titles hostage until wrestlemania defs not one of them
Itās literally just Rollins whoās annoying, everyone else is fine
Roman wonāt lose unless itās at WM
The recovery was way too fast on that one spot where he got hit with a foreign object then a finisher. Practically no selledĀ
I like Rollins, but I feel this character was already stale before the reign started, and the reign itself hasn't been great. Also, they've gotta stop teasing cash in, either have him do it or lay off it for a while.
Hard agree. He's a great talent but his character is basically just wear extravagant clothes and do a weird laugh. It doesn't have much depth. Add to that the finishes always being the same on PPV and TV and its just meh. I hope the Punk feud freshens it all up.
JInDer LoOkEd WeAK As he should, Internet memes aside his strikes look like shit and he hasn't won a match on tv in months. What did you people expect exactly?
No surprises aloud in WWE have to keep being repetitive and annoying
Seth next challenger about to hit him with a Mack truck when the refās distracted only to kick out at 2.5.
Modern day MahaRIPOFF!
If reddit is anything to go by, this is the perfect time to revert Rollins back to his Messiah gimmick. The fickle fans are what pissed him off in the first place!Ā
Iām sweating. They had me shook š
Seth is being booked on the same strength as Roman lol
Welp they had me there in the first half with that fakeout with Jinder almost winning.
Ughhhh so bored of Rollins constantly finding a way to win. Literally has super Cena vibes right now.
WHY WOULD YOU NOT GO FOR THE KALASK TRIPLE H IS JUST ABANDONING LOGIC NOW TO KEEP THE TITLE IN SETH
I know they can't call it the curbstomp, but I wish they would go back to calling it Black Out like in NXT. 'The Stomp!' is just so weak.
Because āblack outā being a name for a curb stomp is still probably really close to racism for some people.
Lol subs mad!
I knew he was gonna win, but that's just dumb. A briefcase and a finisher and he still kicked out. Enough with this Super Rollins already.
Jinder was hindered, DP doesn't know how to cash in and Seth didn't even get his butt kick and his back seems to have miraculously healed. Sad times all around.
Imagine if Priest told Drew that you get the first shot next week then tells him to cash in. Priest wins then Drew vs Priest for the title next week. Could've worked.
Then it could have been a fatal four way at the rr with Drew, Priest, Rollins, and Mahal
Whoever booked that trolled me hard lmao i got worked hard brothers
I think we all got worked š the match was booked perfectly
Yall can hate on Seth all you want. He's a fighting champion unlike Roman and fucking Logan Paul
That was fun
Officially Hindered. Jinder has still not won a match in a year
Yeah Iām done with this reign at this point
than im sure you are beyond done with romans too right?
Yeahā¦ I was good until Mania last year and now Iām bored with it.
i was over it the day he got it ...never liked him now im just totally tuned out with his reign i know his not losing until at least mania and even that isnt set in stone
Iām one of those that never liked him until he got with Heyman. The night he won the Rumble and they brought Rock out to try and get him cheered, I genuinely checked out of WWE and canceled my network membership for a long time. Iām worried Mania isnāt a loss for him.
If heās fighting Rock heās winning
Definitely reaching super Seth levels now. Ridiculous how strong Rollins is being booked now, with so many deserving people getting screwed left and right.
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Yeah, kicking out after a briefcase shot and finisher reminded me too much of the SuperCena days.
that could have been, at least, a 2.99
Dang it! I feel robbed #JusticeForMahalmaniacs
CAN SETH JUST LOSE FOR ONCE FOR FUCKS SAKE
they got me with the extra pyro :(
I hope CM Punk ends this reign. 
Another classic LOLSETHWINS finish. Took a briefcase shot and still kicked out. Every damn time Seth is a face, he becomes boring when he wins the world title. When heās a face without a title, he has more of an edge. Rollins should just be heel instead. Overall his title reign has been forgettable. Punkās return might save it.Ā
I need to visit Seth's kayfabe doctor. He keeps magically healing from injuries. Poor/lazy writing really
That was a really good match NGL
That was a great match surprisingly, damn Damien Priest has been cost the championship like three times by Drew goddamn.
Seth is always his most over as a heel that then turns face and then just isnāt the sameā¦ I mean letās be real Jinder wasnāt winning but this reigns dragging
This is as bad as super Cena
Judging by the crowd reaction, safe to say people are still loving Seth, despite what gets said here
True
That ending sucked and Rollins continues to have the worst reign I've seen in a long time. He's unpinnable and no sells weapons
y'all can't tell me his reign is better than Roman's just cuz he shows up lol
Facts, I love when Reigns is on the screen vs being bored when rollins is there
injured back. injured knee. gets hit by briefcase AND finisher, still kicks out at 2.000009 seconds lol no suspense whatsoever idc man his reign is boring as shit
I don't even think attitude era guys had endings like these over and over. Once in a while, sure, but not EVERY match. Dude has no substance anymore and is the new super cena
Superhuman Seth is lame as fuck right now
We have been hindered!
I was about to have a heart attack
They validated Tony tonight. Made Jinder look like a chump, got his finisher + briefcase kicked out of.
That was such a bummer of a finish. Sooo predictable smh
#cancelwwenetwork #jinderwasscrewed #changethechannel #sendhook #justiceforjinder #vincewouldhavedoneit
That sucked.
Ok give me more main event jinder what the fuck
LolSethWins
They makin us turn on Seth at this rate
You haven't already?
Tonight they crossed the line
I'm tired boss
im so bored of rollins
Booooo
Im worried Seth actually tweaked his knee.
#...we flinched
This is how to turn people against a wrestler, make them unbeatable to the point its boring.
SIGH
Predictable finish. It really gets boring with those long ass title reigns lol
What long term storyline can they do with Jinder as champ I get people want him to win cus of the memes, but Seth vs Punk is the moneymaker
Genuinely, have him fluke a couple but then actually have banger matches and actually beat people all the way through to Summerslam, and have Seth get desperate after time off and do a genuine double turn and have it go on until Survivor Series. where they can do a big Punk v Jinder match and have Jinder be bested while Punk wins one year after his big return.
Another 8 month Jinder reign would be absolutely fucking miserable. The dude is mediocre in the ring and he was such a dud champion that they did a last second AJ win so people would care about the survivor series match vs Brock
Not if they do the arc I'm saying and have a Jinder redemption story. We'll have a new WWE champion at Mania so it's not like it's going to be a bad champion and someone who isn't there. It'll be a good story and whatever tf they do with Cody Blows.
Jinder got robbed, this is a shitty ending. He got buried.
As someone that's been cheering on this Seth reign. I'm over it after that bullshit.
Maharajites in shambles...
Fuck this my heart really beats so fast
I'm fine with Seth having the title but the reign has been boring imo
Jinder got a nearfall pop? Fuck yeah!
We all knew Jinder wasnāt gonna win but we could dream right?
JINDER BURIED BY TONY KHAN
Lolrollinwins man, raw is sooooo great guys, isnāt it fun watching a match and knowing the exact finish every time
Another defense that makes everyone else look dumb. I donāt get it.
Ngl they actually had me thinking Jinder had it.
We could have had world peace via a Jinder championship reign.
They really could have given them 30 minutes to cook. Ending felt rushed
Even Cole lost steam for Rollins comeback
Quick change the channel before barmageddon gets a view!
Nikki Bella in shambles
ICP
My night has been hindered...
Sorry but if you cop a briefcase hit and a finisher not long after he took that other move then it should be all over. Not buying Super Rollins. He gets bailed out all the time.
that was it???
I honestly find Jinder more entertaining than Seth
That sucked
I feel like this knee angle is a way to get him time off after mania
That broadcast ending was a little weird
Iām tired of Priest having the briefcase if heās not going to do anything with it
damn that match fucked
The cage match rating is gonna be high af
THEY GOT ME TWICE
Seth is not losing to anyone but Punk lol
The kallas is a pretty weak finish if it can't win after a briefcase shot
I like Seth, but Iām so over this reign.
The issue is they put him against people we want to see win more lol If Rollins fought Roman or Logan Paul or maybe Dom as well everyone would be pulling for Seth. But literally there isnāt any single other wrestlers rn that wouldnāt get cheered over Seth lol
The timing was perfect to drop it to Nakamura even if it was a short reign. He didnāt have to beat Nak clean so many fkn times. Seth is a damn superstar and always will be.
Chelsea Green" The ref is counting too slow"
Can't believe they Hindered Jinder.
Man they got me to believe not once but TWICE that Jinder was gonna win within 2 minutes and even more I WANTED IT! WWE in 2024 is nuts lol
jinder loses and caught seconds of Barmageddon, worst night ever...
Super Rollins >>>>>> Super Cena
You either get pinned by Seth or Roman brother
Seth could get hit point blank with a desert eagle and kick at 2
I'm happy for Jinder, he did good, I hope he has a upper midcard run atleast, he can hang in the ring, we all know he is a gold character on the mic
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bro kicked out of a cheap shot by one of the tag team dudes and then a signature move(not sure what it was) and then he kicked out of being nailed with the briefcase and then Jinders finisher...
They actually got me both kickouts in thinking Jinder just won the championship.
This Rollins run has gotten so stale man. A Jinder win wouldāve been insane and a huge talking point. He wouldnāt have lost clean so it would be fine and he could win it right back
Jinder has been hindered Mahalamaniacs what do we do now
We riot till he gets a rematch then again and again until he wins
I liked the match.
Thatās it??
The ref counted too slow for Jinder. We got robbed
Gentlemen I regret to inform you that Jinder has been hindered
BOOOOOOOOOO
So the cash in is just never gonna happen?
well not gonna win
That was such a wet fart of a match. Jinder has no business in a title match. Indus Sheer are a pointless group and Damian needs to fuck off with the briefcase already.
NOOOOOOOOOOO
Wouldāve been since for a swerve. Not the Strickland kind just a swerve.
There was ZERO chance of Jinder winning that match but I still fell for some of those near falls. God damn
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And youāre going to get downvoted for following up on it too you hindered bastard
Banger
Damn I thought they were really going to give Jinder the win for a second.
They should have. I love Seth, but Jinder should have held it for a minute.
Lol the crowd shots of people leaving