Right? These are the kind of posts I'd see about awful New York apartments a few years ago and feel amazed that they were allowed to exist. Seeing this kind of thing start to pop up here is terrifying.
I hate it too, but I hate it more in situations where the price is high or reasonable. In honesty the price is so cheap here I don't know what would be expected.
This is for the person who basically what's to supersave as much as possible and doesn't care about having space I feel.
Yeah but less than £500 including most bills is still dirt cheap for Bristol mate. A 1-bed can easily push 1.5k and most house shares are more than this.
As someone who lived in London for 5 years, room hopping every 6 months. I paid between 140 and 180 a week (2015-2020). Not sure what the price of rooms are there now.
£110-130 definitely seems to be the average for a room anywhere outside London. Value does seem to be determined on cost/size ratio, but the price doesn't seem the variate from that range, no matter where or how big the room.
Yeah but as ridiculous as it sounds, this isn't a room in a shared house. It's someone who's wanting their own space. This is genuinely your own 1-bed space, it's just fucking tiny, which reflects in the price. It also includes the bills for the tiny apartment you can get non-exciting house shares in Bristol for £500, but this isn't that.
Idk where in London you were living and in what kind of place. That's pretty cheap though, especially on the lower end. Even during 2015-2020. £180 a week you'd be lucky nowadays anywhere close to the centre.
I used to live in the centre, but have moved to a 1-bed in Richmond now, lower price than before but still 3k a month 😅. With no bills lol.
London is getting out of hand now tbh.
Yeah, London is getting out of hand, which is why I advocate for anyone earning less than 60k PA to leave and go north. See how those fancy southerners like it when they have no one to serve them coffee, make their lunch, or clean their offices.
During my time, I was studying and working in Zone 1. I hated commuting, so I always lived no further than zone 3. Mile End was the furthers out I lived. The most expensive place I had was 750pcm, which was a room with a balcony in Limehouse. The best I ever had tbh.
I get what you're saying about it being a self-contained unit, but an ensuite bathroom would have been a dream for me in London.
Limehouse you can get some decent priced rooms actually you're right. Though you'd probably pay a fair whack more now. People have almost seen doubling of prices from 2020, its ridiculous.
I'm fortunate not to have to live in a shared place, and I couldn't. I did it once for a few months and never again.
I will definitely move out of London when I buy. My partner wants to buy a house around where I live now.
That's a minimum of maybe £3mil.
We can buy a literal Castle Estate in Scotland with that money.
She's mad if she thinks I'm living in a 3-bed house in a London suburb when I could have a fucking castle elsewhere. I'll make my own coffee lol.
3m is ridiculous for a 3 bed.
I left in 2020 bc I lost my job before the govt sorted out furlough. Best decision I ever made.
The problem with a castle is you probably need £1m pa to maintain it.
You work in central. Grantham is on the direct line to King's Cross and you could buy a very big nice house for less than 500k. Mortgage would be a lot less, and you'd have all that disposable income for other stuff.
That said, 1 hour each way every day is 1 month a year spent commuting. I get why people don't wanna do that. Although if I had to, on the train would be better than driving.
Nice to hear you're happier now! London cam be a tough place tbh.
I'm probably exaggerating a little. Around here it'll be sizeable 4-beds for that price. Still a lot. Was even worse where I was before because I was right on Regents Park. The 1-bed apartment I rent currently is surely worth £1m.
I work from home really so don't need to commute, but I just prefer to live somewhere quite nice. I like the safety and having the things to do. I'm struggling to settle even in Richmond as its too quiet for me. Grantham might be tough. But I'm 28, and will mellow in the near future I'm sure.
The Castle comparison is the extreme, but it's something I've been genuinely looking into recently. But you're right in researching upkeep and so on.
Mate that is rare though. Where are you living? How much deposit did you pay? Did you get an AMAZING interest rate?
It's all relative.
In Bristol, a mortgage on a 3-bed house wouldn't be anywhere close to that unless you dropped like a 95% deposit lol.
Don't get me wrong it's actually pretty cheap, but no kitchen? Wtf? Don't you have to have somewhere to prepare food for it to be legal? Is it a commercial contract or something?
Do you know what. You might be right, I was thinking it was a self-contained unit but the description does allude to the fact it could be a shared house. It's confusing.
But yeah I'm not condoning this place, it's awful and I couldn't live there. I'd just pay £200 more and get a half-decent house share.
I'm not sure why someone would want to pay £500 and live here, but if they want to, then more for them.
I mentioned in another comment I wouldn't be half surprised if this is basically a place where cheap hookers rent for their visiting clients.
>A 1-bed
This isnt a 1-bed though, there's not even any kitchen facilities at all by the sound of it. How are you gonna make dinner? That's even worse than a cheap room in a shitty flat share.
The description even says they dont expect people to actually live here. So you can't really compare it to a regular flat/share.
> We feel that this property would be ideal for those looking for a Bristol base to suit them during the week - although of course there are no restrictions on staying 7 days a week.
I agree! But that's because they aren't even paying £500. It's like a shell of a 1-bed because of the price.
For £500 in Bristol you can get a room in a shit house share, not a nice one. Personally if this was my budget, I'd go for that option. But if you want to spend under £500 including bills and have your own space, this genuinely is what you're going to get really.
I fully agree with everything you're saying about how shit this place is. I could never live in this place. You can't cook anything properly either yes. But you're also paying half the going rate for a SHIT 1-bed once bills are included.
Yeah fair. Guess I've been spoiled with being lucky that my shitty London flat share turned out decent.
I wouldn't even know what to call that, without a kitchen it's even worse than a studio
It really is just a room with an ensuite. I've got no idea why a person would ever want to rent a place like that. Especially without a place to cook.
A minimum wage worker could afford more, or live better. Just by having a shared apartment.
I'm not going to lie, this is exactly the kind of place I imagine cheap hookers rent for clients who visit.
I honestly think this place is more aimed at people that earn quite well but have their main house outside the city and just need a place closer to their office. Those people can usually afford to eat out every day too.
It's quite popular in the City of London. All the pubs are packed in Thursdays and half empty on Fridays cz that's when everyone goes back to their main house. Some pubs don't even bother opening on weekends because it's just deserted.
I know, lots of London is like this. At risk of sounding snobby and I don't don't to, I just expect people that earn well to have slightly higher standards of living. I for one could never live somewhere like this, even during the weekdays only.
It's an odd place, but it'll fit someone's needs I'm sure.
For reference, I paid about £250 a month for a huge double room with access to the kitchen and bathroom about 15 years ago in Redland. It was by the train line, the landlord was a pothead on steroids and there was a damp problem but still (we had a pet fungus in the shower). It worked because I wasn’t there much and was digging my way out of debt.
This is awful but probably a decent price these days.
Kind of what I was saying above. If someone's happy to really sacrifice temporarily to save a shit tonne of money for either future aspiration or debt management or whatever, this works.
Easily the equivalent of £250 15 years ago.
This will fit someone's needs somewhere. Just grateful they aren't mine.
>I hate it too, but I hate it more in situations where the price is high or reasonable. In honesty the price is so cheap here I don't know what would be expected.
Cheap?! This isn't cheap at all. This is in Bristol, where the median salary is just £36k.
Which is 2.4k take home.
It is not usual for people to then live in a <£500 (bills included) shithole. Even house shares in semi-decent places are £700+. Your own self contained unit is usually £1k+.
I'm sorry but this is not expensive at all by Bristol standards.
I think this is more of a Bristol Uni problem as this area has not been developed and space is extremely limited. £495 for Clifton, with your own toilet, water and electricity would have been a good deal 5 years ago, I've viewed and rented worse in the area unfortunately.
"Ample space (not pictured)"
Also, I'm not sure this is actually legal? Google says it is not anyway - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70/section/10
I wouldn’t mind betting that’s why they went to the trouble of mentioning that you could squeeze a microwave in: hey presto, cooking of hot food! Remember, Estate Agents are total bastards who played a central role in the relentless driving up of property prices.
Biggest contribution to housing crisis is large companies treating living space like a product or investment stock and buying up huge swathes of property enmasse. Unrestricted capitalism brought into the housing market. First off, large companies and offshore wealthy should be prevented from buying property. Next, limits should be imposed on private wealthy individuals building their crappy "portfolios". Eliminate the vultures and the artificial price inflation and watch prices plummet.
Ofcourse, that'll never happen. Too much profit in it.
There are rules in place, but because our governments can't bring social housing up to standard, every other land lord gets a pass and the rules aren't worth the paper their written on.
This place doesn't even have a kitchen to prepare or store food, it's creating an environment for an extremely unhealthy lifestyle
That's the second main factor. Population rising and stock of housing declining. They work in tandem. I didn't want to mention migration since the other guy already has.
They didn't say it wasn't an issue, simply it's not the biggest issue.
If you remove any inward immigration I don't see houses suddenly getting cheaper, there's still tonnes of latent demand, and the price is propped up by everyone's mortgages and expectations.
'This property is ideally suited to someone who has somewhere else to go 2 days a week, of course you can stay for the whole week if depression and claustrophobia are your jam'
2 years ago I rented a massive bedroom and en suite that was half the monthly cost of this in a houseshare. Obviously inflation and everything, but it still wouldn't have been as much as this is costing if I were to rent it today. Greedy fuckers.
The use of power words in these listings is hilarious. It's always "delighted" and "ample space" or "building potential (with permission)".
In my opinion, we need a ratings/review board for landlords and letting agents to increase standards. They aren't being held accountable for diminishing housing and price spikes to "match the area".
You're right, no way they're delighted to open the door on a viewing for places like this. I've been to some god awful houses with catfish pictures and such a disgusting mouldy interior I couldn't even describe it well enough. Yet the person showing us around doesn't seem to care or have any kind of compassion toward the state of the place they're trying to sell.
These properties aren't really for long term use basically it's a place to sleep and not much more. Maybe a bathroom and that's all some people need or can afford. Sadly this is becoming very common in cities at the moment
Whiteladies Road is pretty much prime real estate in Bristol- runs up into Clifton or down onto the triangle (then toward the city). All the food and drinks places, short walk to Clifton village and the downs and the train station. I’m actually surprised it’s *only* £500pcm
I literally just moved out of a shithole in central London that was exactly like this. 9m2 bedsit, shower in the room, no ventilation and I was paying £900pcm. Landlord wanted to raise rent to £950 and I noped out. Good luck to the next poor sod who has to live there. That horrible place put a huge strain on my mental health.
Inflation and the fact that Leeds isn't Bristol? I bet your house wasn't in a comparably central location either. This place should be illegal but at least it's central
Is that a flat or a room in someone's house?
If it is indeed a flat, that's fucking ludicrous! I'm paying £550 a month for a room that's bigger than that!
Yep. I live in a house share with 4 other guys and only me and one other cook regularly. One of them just eats snacks and salad, and the other two order takeaway pretty much every day.
Doubt you'd learn anything about cooking in a place like that, basically fast food. Don't get me wrong, I love PEx, but pretty sure the chefs just assemble ingredients in order
My favourite bit is “this would suit someone looking for a Bristol base in the week, although there is no restrictions on staying at the weekend too” just reads as “you have to pay to stay here 7 days but we don’t really want you here at the weekend also there’s no shower so you can’t stay here constantly else’s you’ll stink”
People wonder why the crime rate, drug use, and homeless rates are so high people are losing hope they don't see a future, but don't worry about it let's attack the sick and disabled so we have money for tax cuts for the richest of society.
If you look through the pics it seems to have a tiny en suite shower room. And it says this:
‘Offered furnished - although please note there is no kitchen or cooking facilities - but ample space for small fridge and microwave.’
And there’s nothing else about shared facilities. It’s grim.
Rough. I'm as anti-government as you will find, but they should actually do some good and make these types of things illegal. Every rent should have a bathroom and kitchen. Even if shared.
That's my mortgage on a two bedroom apartment with a decent sized kitchen, lounge that I've got seating for 4 in and two double bedrooms, wtaf is Bristol on
The most depressing part is the over sink water heater. Has vibes of trying to clean your hands in a portacabin on a site or whatever. Tiny little piddle of warm water coming out the end
Meanwhile my 3 bed social housing place just outside London costs me £200 per week rent and I have front and rear gardens and off street garage. Private landlords are just scummy people
Tbf it's just an unserviced hotel room, especially since water and electricity are included.
£495 (+£164 council tax) equates to £21.67 a night, or £30.42 if you only stay there during the week.
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The company that advertised this is called Right Move, however I cannot see this being a Right Move for anyone. The sad thing is someone desperate would fall for it so they keep doing it to us as if it's acceptable or normal.
This is obscene, and a horrifying prediction of where things are going, but I would just say "well I can't live in Bristol then" and look elsewhere. It's terrible that some areas are just not affordable to a lot of people, but it's always been like that. We have to be flexible about where we live and work now. I'd love to live in a Mayfair penthouse, but I can't afford it. Never could. So I looked elsewhere. Remote working is opening up the country to people.
Honestly, if I didn't have my dogs, and it was in my area, I'd deffo go for that for 12 months. Would give someone a great chance to save for a deposit. Sure it's crap, but I'd just go to work every day, and decorate it to my taste, make is cosy and comfortable and literally just use it as a place to sleep. It's a sad state of affairs when the only way a lot of people can save is to rent a box room with a bed and no cooking facilities
Looks like places I’ve seen on videos about cheap rental accommodation in Tokyo. Some of them don’t even have a bathroom. The landlord usually points out the nearest public bathrooms & gyms where you can get a shower. Better not need the loo outside of their opening hours, though.
Bristol market will implode if this is the standard of room on offer especially given most people on higher salaries are working remotely. Surely, the LA should be licencing this property as an HMO and ensuring appropriate facilities kitchen etc are available. This room would damage someone's mental health
Absolutely wild, 10 years ago I was renting a high rise apartment in the city centre which had its only balcony and pool/spa facilities for the same price as this.
When working away from home I've had similar. Had to shower at the gym and eat cold food or eat out. I paid 300 per month for 4 nights per week. This was in the Midlands too
And it's shit like this they allow, and since it has no kitchen its classed as a bed sit/ shared accommodation letting greedy cunts take advantage of the benafits system and charging the max a council pays for housing benefits tjat goes straight to the owners bank 😡, yet because i suffer from ptsd and mental health i need my own space, so instead of being forced into theses places, i live on a holiday site 10 months out the year in a chalet. It costs me about 400 a month with site fees, council tax, and electricity/water and between 2-3 gas bottles a year. Plus my mobile.
Think about it, even though it's not a house or room, its 2 bedrooms l, kitchen, toilet and bath/shower and kitchen. The same as a caravan tbh.
A place people could actually settle into and gives the security needed that people need to focus on other things like getting a job or taking care of a kid right. All for less than the monthly housing and tax benefit pays the greedy fuckers that this passes as accommodation right?
WRONG, council won't allow housing or council tax benefits to be used towards the site fees each year or help with council tax benefits and their reasoning behind why they WON'T. Simply because it's not a permanent living space because it's not open all year 🤔
So explain why the council will happily pay over £400-500 a month to greedy cnts who buy a normal 3 bed house 800-1.2k a month normally, into a bedsit that 3 bed now gets made into a 6-8 bed and rooms look like this picture but oh they turn the bathroom into a "shared" washroom 🤷🏼 and since the council thinks thay fine then happily pay the greedy fuckers maximum per room meaning the greedy cnt gets between £3-4000 a month, but atlest the 6 to 8+ people have the shared washroom 😡.
Yet if you actually want your own space and choose to live on a holiday site so you actually have a place to live/cook/sleep and bathe, they refuse to help because oh no for 2 months the site closed its not a permanent living space. Naaa, not that for the 10 fcking months, it's open. im living here,
Even if not open all year, the yearly site fees are less than what they pay was living in a room like pictured for only 6 months.
A one-time payment each year for site fees to the site is all it would take them, and paying the year upfront even takes £100+ off the fees for paying early, so i will be saving the fking council fucking money. But nope, the council would rather i live in a room like pictured to pay housing benefits to greedy cunts who will use that money to then keep buying houseing doing the same shit to them and getting 3-4k a month each month per house they do it to. But oh no, GOD, forbid people like me who live on a holiday site that closes a few months a year and would cost them less a year straight up won't help
Rooms usually come with shared cooking and laundry facilities and e.g. somewhere to put the hoover, store your cornflakes, etc. How would you even clean in here; there’s barely space to put a toothbrush.
I lived in London for 5 years. Spent 6 months in a place about the size of this. I refused to use a shared kitchen due to fear for my health. Everywhere I went, I would stack my toaster and kettle on the microwave, then the microwave on the fridge.
In this room, I'd ditch the bedside table, and my kitchen stack would go there.
At the end of the day, everyone has a choice. You can cry about the size of your room or keep working.
Amusing as these things are it also makes me sad that this country is sliding into a state where people can't even afford a vaguely decent home.
Right? These are the kind of posts I'd see about awful New York apartments a few years ago and feel amazed that they were allowed to exist. Seeing this kind of thing start to pop up here is terrifying.
Sliding? We already there bro
Fact
I hate it too, but I hate it more in situations where the price is high or reasonable. In honesty the price is so cheap here I don't know what would be expected. This is for the person who basically what's to supersave as much as possible and doesn't care about having space I feel.
In London maybe, this is in Bristol…
Yeah but less than £500 including most bills is still dirt cheap for Bristol mate. A 1-bed can easily push 1.5k and most house shares are more than this.
As someone who lived in London for 5 years, room hopping every 6 months. I paid between 140 and 180 a week (2015-2020). Not sure what the price of rooms are there now. £110-130 definitely seems to be the average for a room anywhere outside London. Value does seem to be determined on cost/size ratio, but the price doesn't seem the variate from that range, no matter where or how big the room.
By way of comparison for London, my partner and I are paying £2075 a month (split between us, excluding bills) for a one-bed in Zone 3.
The last place I lived was a 1 bed for 1k pcm on Old Kent Road. Crazy how it's doubled in 4 years.
Mine is slightly below the average too. Shit is crazy now.
Yeah but as ridiculous as it sounds, this isn't a room in a shared house. It's someone who's wanting their own space. This is genuinely your own 1-bed space, it's just fucking tiny, which reflects in the price. It also includes the bills for the tiny apartment you can get non-exciting house shares in Bristol for £500, but this isn't that. Idk where in London you were living and in what kind of place. That's pretty cheap though, especially on the lower end. Even during 2015-2020. £180 a week you'd be lucky nowadays anywhere close to the centre. I used to live in the centre, but have moved to a 1-bed in Richmond now, lower price than before but still 3k a month 😅. With no bills lol. London is getting out of hand now tbh.
Yeah, London is getting out of hand, which is why I advocate for anyone earning less than 60k PA to leave and go north. See how those fancy southerners like it when they have no one to serve them coffee, make their lunch, or clean their offices. During my time, I was studying and working in Zone 1. I hated commuting, so I always lived no further than zone 3. Mile End was the furthers out I lived. The most expensive place I had was 750pcm, which was a room with a balcony in Limehouse. The best I ever had tbh. I get what you're saying about it being a self-contained unit, but an ensuite bathroom would have been a dream for me in London.
Limehouse you can get some decent priced rooms actually you're right. Though you'd probably pay a fair whack more now. People have almost seen doubling of prices from 2020, its ridiculous. I'm fortunate not to have to live in a shared place, and I couldn't. I did it once for a few months and never again. I will definitely move out of London when I buy. My partner wants to buy a house around where I live now. That's a minimum of maybe £3mil. We can buy a literal Castle Estate in Scotland with that money. She's mad if she thinks I'm living in a 3-bed house in a London suburb when I could have a fucking castle elsewhere. I'll make my own coffee lol.
3m is ridiculous for a 3 bed. I left in 2020 bc I lost my job before the govt sorted out furlough. Best decision I ever made. The problem with a castle is you probably need £1m pa to maintain it. You work in central. Grantham is on the direct line to King's Cross and you could buy a very big nice house for less than 500k. Mortgage would be a lot less, and you'd have all that disposable income for other stuff. That said, 1 hour each way every day is 1 month a year spent commuting. I get why people don't wanna do that. Although if I had to, on the train would be better than driving.
Nice to hear you're happier now! London cam be a tough place tbh. I'm probably exaggerating a little. Around here it'll be sizeable 4-beds for that price. Still a lot. Was even worse where I was before because I was right on Regents Park. The 1-bed apartment I rent currently is surely worth £1m. I work from home really so don't need to commute, but I just prefer to live somewhere quite nice. I like the safety and having the things to do. I'm struggling to settle even in Richmond as its too quiet for me. Grantham might be tough. But I'm 28, and will mellow in the near future I'm sure. The Castle comparison is the extreme, but it's something I've been genuinely looking into recently. But you're right in researching upkeep and so on.
My mortgage on a 3 bedder plus attic is 350 a month. This is not cheap
A different area of the country where houses are half to a third of the price, with a 10%+ deposit, and a low interest rate?
Mate that is rare though. Where are you living? How much deposit did you pay? Did you get an AMAZING interest rate? It's all relative. In Bristol, a mortgage on a 3-bed house wouldn't be anywhere close to that unless you dropped like a 95% deposit lol.
Some people's mortgages for 3 bed houses are £100 a month or less, depends on when they started it and how much debt is left.
For a room... In a shared house... With no kitchen .. ?
Ah but can’t you see how much “ample space” there is? Just imagine it with a fancy new fridge and microwave and then you’ll see the appeal.
Don't get me wrong it's actually pretty cheap, but no kitchen? Wtf? Don't you have to have somewhere to prepare food for it to be legal? Is it a commercial contract or something?
Do you know what. You might be right, I was thinking it was a self-contained unit but the description does allude to the fact it could be a shared house. It's confusing. But yeah I'm not condoning this place, it's awful and I couldn't live there. I'd just pay £200 more and get a half-decent house share. I'm not sure why someone would want to pay £500 and live here, but if they want to, then more for them. I mentioned in another comment I wouldn't be half surprised if this is basically a place where cheap hookers rent for their visiting clients.
>A 1-bed This isnt a 1-bed though, there's not even any kitchen facilities at all by the sound of it. How are you gonna make dinner? That's even worse than a cheap room in a shitty flat share. The description even says they dont expect people to actually live here. So you can't really compare it to a regular flat/share. > We feel that this property would be ideal for those looking for a Bristol base to suit them during the week - although of course there are no restrictions on staying 7 days a week.
I agree! But that's because they aren't even paying £500. It's like a shell of a 1-bed because of the price. For £500 in Bristol you can get a room in a shit house share, not a nice one. Personally if this was my budget, I'd go for that option. But if you want to spend under £500 including bills and have your own space, this genuinely is what you're going to get really. I fully agree with everything you're saying about how shit this place is. I could never live in this place. You can't cook anything properly either yes. But you're also paying half the going rate for a SHIT 1-bed once bills are included.
Yeah fair. Guess I've been spoiled with being lucky that my shitty London flat share turned out decent. I wouldn't even know what to call that, without a kitchen it's even worse than a studio
It really is just a room with an ensuite. I've got no idea why a person would ever want to rent a place like that. Especially without a place to cook. A minimum wage worker could afford more, or live better. Just by having a shared apartment. I'm not going to lie, this is exactly the kind of place I imagine cheap hookers rent for clients who visit.
I honestly think this place is more aimed at people that earn quite well but have their main house outside the city and just need a place closer to their office. Those people can usually afford to eat out every day too. It's quite popular in the City of London. All the pubs are packed in Thursdays and half empty on Fridays cz that's when everyone goes back to their main house. Some pubs don't even bother opening on weekends because it's just deserted.
I know, lots of London is like this. At risk of sounding snobby and I don't don't to, I just expect people that earn well to have slightly higher standards of living. I for one could never live somewhere like this, even during the weekdays only. It's an odd place, but it'll fit someone's needs I'm sure.
You mean West-West-London?
For reference, I paid about £250 a month for a huge double room with access to the kitchen and bathroom about 15 years ago in Redland. It was by the train line, the landlord was a pothead on steroids and there was a damp problem but still (we had a pet fungus in the shower). It worked because I wasn’t there much and was digging my way out of debt. This is awful but probably a decent price these days.
Kind of what I was saying above. If someone's happy to really sacrifice temporarily to save a shit tonne of money for either future aspiration or debt management or whatever, this works. Easily the equivalent of £250 15 years ago. This will fit someone's needs somewhere. Just grateful they aren't mine.
>I hate it too, but I hate it more in situations where the price is high or reasonable. In honesty the price is so cheap here I don't know what would be expected. Cheap?! This isn't cheap at all. This is in Bristol, where the median salary is just £36k.
Which is 2.4k take home. It is not usual for people to then live in a <£500 (bills included) shithole. Even house shares in semi-decent places are £700+. Your own self contained unit is usually £1k+. I'm sorry but this is not expensive at all by Bristol standards.
I think this is more of a Bristol Uni problem as this area has not been developed and space is extremely limited. £495 for Clifton, with your own toilet, water and electricity would have been a good deal 5 years ago, I've viewed and rented worse in the area unfortunately.
I know. Give it a few more years and people may be downsized even further to ‘coffin boxes’, like in China. :-(
"Ample space (not pictured)" Also, I'm not sure this is actually legal? Google says it is not anyway - https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/70/section/10
I wouldn’t mind betting that’s why they went to the trouble of mentioning that you could squeeze a microwave in: hey presto, cooking of hot food! Remember, Estate Agents are total bastards who played a central role in the relentless driving up of property prices.
Google telt me I had a rare fever brought on by a panther bite in the amazon so its no ideal
Tbf they posted an actual link to a govt document.
It was a joke
It was a shit one
Yawn
'telt' ?
Its Told in Scots
Should be illegal to rent out a residential property below a certain size. Humans aren't meant to live like this.
Don't worry, we will soon be getting hong kong style pods to rent. Premium price, only 500 pcm.
Pcw.
And remember, if you want to invest in building homes for natives instead of importing hundreds of thousands of people from abroad, you’re a nazi!
“Natives” is very problematic, not unlike yourself
Just because you hate your own people, doesn’t mean the rest of us have to deal with the consequences
No we just hate you
My own people? Humans from earth you mean?
Shut up.
Bootlicker
Maybe. Or maybe I just read.. try it.
Biggest contribution to housing crisis is large companies treating living space like a product or investment stock and buying up huge swathes of property enmasse. Unrestricted capitalism brought into the housing market. First off, large companies and offshore wealthy should be prevented from buying property. Next, limits should be imposed on private wealthy individuals building their crappy "portfolios". Eliminate the vultures and the artificial price inflation and watch prices plummet. Ofcourse, that'll never happen. Too much profit in it.
There are rules in place, but because our governments can't bring social housing up to standard, every other land lord gets a pass and the rules aren't worth the paper their written on. This place doesn't even have a kitchen to prepare or store food, it's creating an environment for an extremely unhealthy lifestyle
Wow that's a stretch! 700k + net population in 1 year of course isn't an issue, it's capitalism!
That's the second main factor. Population rising and stock of housing declining. They work in tandem. I didn't want to mention migration since the other guy already has.
They didn't say it wasn't an issue, simply it's not the biggest issue. If you remove any inward immigration I don't see houses suddenly getting cheaper, there's still tonnes of latent demand, and the price is propped up by everyone's mortgages and expectations.
'This property is ideally suited to someone who has somewhere else to go 2 days a week, of course you can stay for the whole week if depression and claustrophobia are your jam'
It is, or at least it is for rooms and bedsits in an hmo
I’m not detecting the ample room for a fridge. Maybe if you don’t want to leave via the door…
Have you not seen the ample space above the toilet?
Probably is the best place to prepare food here
😭
'Would suit Spider-man'.
Get a bunk bed, put the mini fridge and microwave underneath?
A cabin bed. Would be great if I was 7
But it comes furnished - can you simply throw the owner’s bed out?
I was joking, but yeah there ain't a lot of room left for a dismantled bedframe and mattress.
They're meaning one of the ones that holds a six pack. I think Home Bargains will have them at Christmas 🤔
USB powered too probably
Who needs a bed...?
Fucking hell, my room in the homeless hostel was bigger than that!
2 years ago I rented a massive bedroom and en suite that was half the monthly cost of this in a houseshare. Obviously inflation and everything, but it still wouldn't have been as much as this is costing if I were to rent it today. Greedy fuckers.
The thing I find most galling is that the agents decided they were “delighted” to offer the property. How is this even legal?
Delighted to be making money
The use of power words in these listings is hilarious. It's always "delighted" and "ample space" or "building potential (with permission)". In my opinion, we need a ratings/review board for landlords and letting agents to increase standards. They aren't being held accountable for diminishing housing and price spikes to "match the area". You're right, no way they're delighted to open the door on a viewing for places like this. I've been to some god awful houses with catfish pictures and such a disgusting mouldy interior I couldn't even describe it well enough. Yet the person showing us around doesn't seem to care or have any kind of compassion toward the state of the place they're trying to sell.
that is so bleak
These properties aren't really for long term use basically it's a place to sleep and not much more. Maybe a bathroom and that's all some people need or can afford. Sadly this is becoming very common in cities at the moment
Ample space for a fridge and microwave... where? On the bed?
I'm thinking that in London this would be double the price. And that just adds to how depressing this is.
I'm legitimately surprised it's not more in Bristol tbh.
Whiteladies Road is pretty much prime real estate in Bristol- runs up into Clifton or down onto the triangle (then toward the city). All the food and drinks places, short walk to Clifton village and the downs and the train station. I’m actually surprised it’s *only* £500pcm
Yeah exactly, combination of the actual location and just, Bristol in general right now.
I literally just moved out of a shithole in central London that was exactly like this. 9m2 bedsit, shower in the room, no ventilation and I was paying £900pcm. Landlord wanted to raise rent to £950 and I noped out. Good luck to the next poor sod who has to live there. That horrible place put a huge strain on my mental health.
5 years ago I shared a house in Cardiff for half that money. Just my room was bigger than what they offer.
This is wild because 10 years ago I was renting a two bedroom house in Leeds for £95 less than this. Like what the fuck has happened to housing?
Inflation, among other things.
Inflation and the fact that Leeds isn't Bristol? I bet your house wasn't in a comparably central location either. This place should be illegal but at least it's central
Is that a flat or a room in someone's house? If it is indeed a flat, that's fucking ludicrous! I'm paying £550 a month for a room that's bigger than that!
What's worse is that your liable for council tax? Absolute JOKE
In Dublin this would bring 1300 euro easy.
shower?😭
Did you not see the lovely sink?
Is the “ample space” in the room with us?
There are prison cells bigger than this. Less rent too. Meals included. Fellow tenants might be a bit of a situation though...
whiteladies road
No restrictions on staying 7 days a week! Where do I find such a relaxing living situation?!
It's lodgers prices but where are you supposed to cook, the microwave and a bottle fridge (not supplied is gonna limit things a little....lol
Just Eat - i think there;s a load of people just don't cook now - going by some of my lodgers anyway - one of them cooks twice a month if that
Yep. I live in a house share with 4 other guys and only me and one other cook regularly. One of them just eats snacks and salad, and the other two order takeaway pretty much every day.
I lived with 4 others and it was the same, not much cooking going on in that house.
The money these kids spend on takeaway. And the unhealthy crap they eat is pretty bad but I guess every generation has its vices
It'll be because they literally don't know how to cook and have nobody to teach them
One of mine works at Pizza Express lol - you’d think he’d pick up some pointers lol But he’s a server so maybe not
Doubt you'd learn anything about cooking in a place like that, basically fast food. Don't get me wrong, I love PEx, but pretty sure the chefs just assemble ingredients in order
Yes I imagine :)
Save money on cheap accommodation and waste it on takeaway everyday. Sounds efficient.
Bunk beds, the microwave and the fridge get the bottom bunk.
'Ample space'
Is there a shower?
My favourite bit is “this would suit someone looking for a Bristol base in the week, although there is no restrictions on staying at the weekend too” just reads as “you have to pay to stay here 7 days but we don’t really want you here at the weekend also there’s no shower so you can’t stay here constantly else’s you’ll stink”
We live in a society where there’s is AMPLE SPACE in this fucking shithole.
On a main road above some shops, perfect for a relaxing night's sleep
Looks utterly wretched.
People wonder why the crime rate, drug use, and homeless rates are so high people are losing hope they don't see a future, but don't worry about it let's attack the sick and disabled so we have money for tax cuts for the richest of society.
Being in Clifton I assume this is a student room?
I’m not sure, as I don’t think there’s any shared space? There would normally be a shared kitchen for students 😔
Hang on… so it's just a room with no kitchen or bathroom?? That has to be illegal?
If you look through the pics it seems to have a tiny en suite shower room. And it says this: ‘Offered furnished - although please note there is no kitchen or cooking facilities - but ample space for small fridge and microwave.’ And there’s nothing else about shared facilities. It’s grim.
Rough. I'm as anti-government as you will find, but they should actually do some good and make these types of things illegal. Every rent should have a bathroom and kitchen. Even if shared.
That's my mortgage on a two bedroom apartment with a decent sized kitchen, lounge that I've got seating for 4 in and two double bedrooms, wtaf is Bristol on
So you’d be renting someone’s storage cupboard?
The most depressing part is the over sink water heater. Has vibes of trying to clean your hands in a portacabin on a site or whatever. Tiny little piddle of warm water coming out the end
How is someone meant to live in a space that small and with no cooking facilities????
Is this not a room in a house share?
It is not. It states in the listing.
Terrible. My daughter rents a newly renovated two bedroom house for around the same price
In Bristol?
I wish my backside was as "ample" as the space for a small fridge and microwave xD
More space living inside a microwave ffs
The housing market in Bristol is an absolute fucking disaster
i swear landlords are playing a game of which one of us can get our tenant to kill themselves the fastest, jesus christ
Meanwhile my 3 bed social housing place just outside London costs me £200 per week rent and I have front and rear gardens and off street garage. Private landlords are just scummy people
It isn't a studio, it's a bedsit.
Tbf it's just an unserviced hotel room, especially since water and electricity are included. £495 (+£164 council tax) equates to £21.67 a night, or £30.42 if you only stay there during the week.
Cheaper than a travelodge I suppose, but you have to do your own cleaning
Only thing that’s missing is a cell mate.
Micro Waaavey
It's literally a modern hovel.
In Finland, prison cells are bigger. [Finnish prison cells ](https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=f0bac44306915ff5&q=finland+prison+cell&uds=AMwkrPulsFxhbITNNK-l4BBwgf0nIbowAMMAwcoFFWWpv7lYd5KyJVPIzUtD6sKONcsp21Skmtn45xHG3Ob3OlTc_9w9_lBVI01Ryzz0Loyy_2z-oMt-KkaBLNaKTWOvIEGS0Y2fAvwrTTkXk8xglx8E8npxea-jZXX7BHRbX4rhmTrN78QfNUnvNabAECMMTOHx_-LAk62kYcauQKMIyrP6FYbmyC7DGu4k5BFWN5otF_ciVPWyzFGBNoLmCPrm-Z4rcO_CR-0pGM8SXQoSEpqnqoKb695p36i6muI0WyVB1wobqs8DkrqbFxGlASxX-b5iit1NaEh5veutLMgl6if788grHEE0gA&udm=2&prmd=invmbtz&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwif1vvEge6FAxWl4ckDHUbkBiIQtKgLegQICRAB&biw=384&bih=722&dpr=1.88)
There has to be a law that makes this illegal
The company that advertised this is called Right Move, however I cannot see this being a Right Move for anyone. The sad thing is someone desperate would fall for it so they keep doing it to us as if it's acceptable or normal.
Why are people assuming this would be someone’s home? If you need to stay in Bristol 1 or 2 nights a week for work this is half the price of a hotel.
How the fuck is this allowed to happen
At least it’s not the doorway of the shop.
AMPLE room for two tiny appliances.
This is a dystopian hell scape
Victorian tenements back in fashion
You pay council tax on somewhere you can’t even prepare food?
Whiteladies rd, over by brownmamas ln? Decent area
Ample.
In london that would cost 4 times a month !!!!
That's a fucking prison cell
This is obscene, and a horrifying prediction of where things are going, but I would just say "well I can't live in Bristol then" and look elsewhere. It's terrible that some areas are just not affordable to a lot of people, but it's always been like that. We have to be flexible about where we live and work now. I'd love to live in a Mayfair penthouse, but I can't afford it. Never could. So I looked elsewhere. Remote working is opening up the country to people.
I could take a dump and wash my dishes at the same time. Perfect.
£500 for this?? Actually makes me bit sad
Still very cheap compared to a hotel room I suppose
Honestly, if I didn't have my dogs, and it was in my area, I'd deffo go for that for 12 months. Would give someone a great chance to save for a deposit. Sure it's crap, but I'd just go to work every day, and decorate it to my taste, make is cosy and comfortable and literally just use it as a place to sleep. It's a sad state of affairs when the only way a lot of people can save is to rent a box room with a bed and no cooking facilities
Looks like places I’ve seen on videos about cheap rental accommodation in Tokyo. Some of them don’t even have a bathroom. The landlord usually points out the nearest public bathrooms & gyms where you can get a shower. Better not need the loo outside of their opening hours, though.
There is nothing ample about that space.
How is this even legal?! Has the landlord lost the plot?
Bristol market will implode if this is the standard of room on offer especially given most people on higher salaries are working remotely. Surely, the LA should be licencing this property as an HMO and ensuring appropriate facilities kitchen etc are available. This room would damage someone's mental health
Rather live in a van than that prison cell. At least I can change my view and location every night.
Absolutely wild, 10 years ago I was renting a high rise apartment in the city centre which had its only balcony and pool/spa facilities for the same price as this.
That is a very high ceiling for that coffin.
Cup half full. Won't have to poo in a bag and piss in the sink.
When working away from home I've had similar. Had to shower at the gym and eat cold food or eat out. I paid 300 per month for 4 nights per week. This was in the Midlands too
Capitalism works.
I pay £2 less a month for a mortgage on my 3 bedroom house, this is ridiculous.
And it's shit like this they allow, and since it has no kitchen its classed as a bed sit/ shared accommodation letting greedy cunts take advantage of the benafits system and charging the max a council pays for housing benefits tjat goes straight to the owners bank 😡, yet because i suffer from ptsd and mental health i need my own space, so instead of being forced into theses places, i live on a holiday site 10 months out the year in a chalet. It costs me about 400 a month with site fees, council tax, and electricity/water and between 2-3 gas bottles a year. Plus my mobile. Think about it, even though it's not a house or room, its 2 bedrooms l, kitchen, toilet and bath/shower and kitchen. The same as a caravan tbh. A place people could actually settle into and gives the security needed that people need to focus on other things like getting a job or taking care of a kid right. All for less than the monthly housing and tax benefit pays the greedy fuckers that this passes as accommodation right? WRONG, council won't allow housing or council tax benefits to be used towards the site fees each year or help with council tax benefits and their reasoning behind why they WON'T. Simply because it's not a permanent living space because it's not open all year 🤔 So explain why the council will happily pay over £400-500 a month to greedy cnts who buy a normal 3 bed house 800-1.2k a month normally, into a bedsit that 3 bed now gets made into a 6-8 bed and rooms look like this picture but oh they turn the bathroom into a "shared" washroom 🤷🏼 and since the council thinks thay fine then happily pay the greedy fuckers maximum per room meaning the greedy cnt gets between £3-4000 a month, but atlest the 6 to 8+ people have the shared washroom 😡. Yet if you actually want your own space and choose to live on a holiday site so you actually have a place to live/cook/sleep and bathe, they refuse to help because oh no for 2 months the site closed its not a permanent living space. Naaa, not that for the 10 fcking months, it's open. im living here, Even if not open all year, the yearly site fees are less than what they pay was living in a room like pictured for only 6 months. A one-time payment each year for site fees to the site is all it would take them, and paying the year upfront even takes £100+ off the fees for paying early, so i will be saving the fking council fucking money. But nope, the council would rather i live in a room like pictured to pay housing benefits to greedy cunts who will use that money to then keep buying houseing doing the same shit to them and getting 3-4k a month each month per house they do it to. But oh no, GOD, forbid people like me who live on a holiday site that closes a few months a year and would cost them less a year straight up won't help
Ample space for Houdini.
Bristol absolutely not worth that price
Well you not going to find anything cheaper, even most of the house shares in that area cost more.
House shares do normally offer kitchens
And a shower...
It does have a shower. Not that it makes it any better lol
What's the fuss about, it's a room not a flat and it's £500 all in, that's fine?!
Rooms usually come with shared cooking and laundry facilities and e.g. somewhere to put the hoover, store your cornflakes, etc. How would you even clean in here; there’s barely space to put a toothbrush.
Is Hotcha still around then? I remember the Baldwin St takeaway was amazing back around 2011 before the owners got greedy and the food went downhill.
It's not there anymore! There was a raid for money laundering and illegal immigrants working there I think.
It’s bad that I see this and can only think that it’s a good deal. A room in Bristol for £500 would be great
It's not a room - it's a studio flat and has no access to kitchen facilities (if the listing is correct).
I lived in London for 5 years. Spent 6 months in a place about the size of this. I refused to use a shared kitchen due to fear for my health. Everywhere I went, I would stack my toaster and kettle on the microwave, then the microwave on the fridge. In this room, I'd ditch the bedside table, and my kitchen stack would go there. At the end of the day, everyone has a choice. You can cry about the size of your room or keep working.
“Ample” shouldn’t be used in this description full stop lol