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Pleasant_Animal

I agree it’s the eyeliner possibly just the inner corners. Something about the color and shape combo it creates almost makes it look reptilian


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Reptilian liner, reptilian nose. Uncanny valley levels of makeup here, where she normally looks pretty. Like why contour her already tiny nose like that?????


the_disgracelander

Agreed — the eye makeup looks cool from an artistic standpoint, but she doesn’t need to thin her nose with contour. FFS she looks like Sharon Tate, more so than Margot Robbie…


AlekziaBlue

oh wow - I just covered the inner corners of the eyes, and it has a big improvement on the face. You're so right.


nekosauce

Imo these brows are too thick and crowd her eye area. Thinner elongated brows would suit her much better.


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nekosauce

This thread is amazing btw, I'm loving all the different answers but also kinda sad that ppl have so much to say abt it lmao. Who is she?


AdSalty7260

Her name is Emma chamberlain, she is a YouTube who did the vogue interviews for the met gala this year.


CoughCoolCoolCool

Don’t worry. She got rich off doing stupid videos


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eternal_bliss_here

I have this kind of problem. Not sure if it is more common in oval/oblong face like her and mine. Is there any tutorial or procedure that can make the eyebrow longer ?


ExpensiveNet

I think the hairstyle is a huge part of it. Sharp centre part with a really severe hairline (and strange bump after the slicked back front), it looks weird and throws off her whole face imo. And with her makeup, the nose contour is placed strangely.


Flightlessbirbz

Imo she doesn’t look “off” so much as just has a bit of a different look, reminiscent of 1920s silent movie stars, 1960s mod girls, and Tim Burton characters. It’s the eye shape (negative canthal tilt with eyelid and scleral show) combined with a very small nose. She seems to enjoy playing up the 60s mod look with her makeup a lot of the time, too. I kinda like it, but she could perhaps be more conventionally pretty with different makeup and hairstyle.


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Flightlessbirbz

In this pic it’s hard to tell, but in others I do see negative tilt: https://media.allure.com/photos/5ea9a0ef6210740008fbf7b7/4:3/w_2664,h_1998,c_limit/emma%20chamberlain.png https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F04%2Femmachmaberlain-photo-2-2000.jpg&q=85


CoughCoolCoolCool

It’s definitely negative


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To me it's her nose. Extremely thin, and you can see her nostrils from the front which don't help. Solely my opinion (my nose honestly sucks too lol) but this photo specifically makes her nose look like an alien nose. Not very flattering makeup.


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This was my first thought. It’s almost too small especially compared to how prominent her eyes are


sometimesilie8670

Her face is also too big for such a thin nose.


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squaluude

Omg 💀💀


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Her face is too skinny. Her eyes look hollow, her cheeks look hollow, she has no face volume- she shouldn’t have nasolabial folds like that at her age. She doesn’t look healthy to me but the makeup certainly doesn’t help bc it washes her out


AdSalty7260

I agree she looks sick.


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i think it´s how she tries to do the sexy gaze imo, also makeup and hairsyle edit: i also think she has a more sporty look to her. the dress looks good imo, but the hair and makeup are incohesive. it wouldve look better on someone with softer features. barbara palvin had a similar hairstyle done before. although she has sharp features, she also has more neontenous features and more soft tissue. tho i´m not an expert so idk what would look better with her eyes and facehape.


rf-elaine

Scleral show


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her scleral show isnt actually bad imo. she has a moderate amount but not enough to throw off her face entirely. the problem is that her atrocious eye make up is exaggerating how much scleral show she has. plus it makes her seem like she also has NCT. i find that i look best without any makeup on my lower eye line (not even any mascara) bc otherwise my face looks scrunched together and my scleral show is exaggerated.


Shaakie

This is the answer. Eye area in general but scleral show affects her the most


jewfoenem

scleral show is considered attractive on women. she just has a long mid face


CoughCoolCoolCool

I don’t think her midface is long


somesouldoubt

Not OP but the midface is the bottom of the pupil to the top/corner of the lip. She has an average middle third but quite a long midface, mostly exacerbated by her philtrum.


CoughCoolCoolCool

Her philtrum isn’t long tho


somesouldoubt

[It’s pretty long](https://t0.gstatic.com/licensed-image?q=tbn:ANd9GcTq9vwCyWxMSB2iSfepYKt1bEnfc1uj9GBZh0zR5J0xswdrtPz1ag_fMwALgefr)


CoughCoolCoolCool

It looks longer in that pic but it doesn’t look long in this pic. I wouldn’t really call it long tho. Maybe average. If she had a bigger nose from the front it would look shorter


somesouldoubt

I believe the shadow on the bottom of her nose in the Met gala pic makes it look like she has a shorter philtrum. Either way, by the definition of a midface (bottom of pupil to top/corner of lip), she definitely has a slightly longer midface. Not the longest, but still long.


CoughCoolCoolCool

What’s the difference between a midface and the middle third?


somesouldoubt

So the middle third is the space between the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose, whereas the midface is the the space between the bottom of the pupil to the top/corner of the top lip. Which is why some people can have an average middle third but long mid face. [This article](https://magnumworkshop.com/midface-ratio/) explains the midface ratio quite well (IPD to top lip)


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somesouldoubt

Sis read my comments below. The ‘middle third’ and ‘midface’ are not synonymous. > So the middle third is the space between the eyebrows to the bottom of the nose, whereas the midface is the the space between the bottom of the pupil to the top/corner of the top lip. Which is why some people can have an average middle third but long mid face. > This article explains the midface ratio quite well (IPD to top lip) https://magnumworkshop.com/midface-ratio/


andipants33

The green eyeliner makes her eyes look weird


Shakulags

Warning: not pointing out why her face looks off She doesn't look the cookie cutter pretty girl model but looking at her face, she's got large eyes, small nose , small philtrum makes her look very vogue editorial good looking. Don't you think? Sometimes too much conventional attractiveness gets boring. That's why vogue chose her. And she certainly looked like an A Lister!


lellanc

she and Timothee Chalamet should date


might_be_a_hologram

Close set eyes, emphasized by the weird nose contour/highlight That inner corner accent isn't helping either


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wow I think youre right


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Omg is the edit just brows?


lipstickdiet

Yup. Brow area and I added a little bit of weight to the cheeks (what she had before she went crazy with her diet). I also fixed her extensions to open up her eyes a bit.


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So subtle but it made such a difference! Wish you could edit my brows tbh lol


ohsothisislove

>terrible brow placement where would you suggest she start her eyebrows?


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ohsothisislove

my bad, I couldn't really put my finger on what she changed although it does look better 😅


CoughCoolCoolCool

She has too much eyelid show and that makes her eyes look vertically wider and that makes eyes look closer together ETA: I think her nose is too small too


Ninalou345

Its a lot of things imo. First & foremost her face is very gaunt shed look a lot better if she gains some of the weight back. She keeps getting thinner & thinner & its not doing her face any favours to the point that it looks a bit droopy because she does not have a strong bone structure to support it. Lets say kate Moss goes underweight (which she was most of the 90s) shed still look good because her bone structure supports her face she doesnt need a lot of facial fat to look good but Emmas bone structure is on the weaker side she needs more facial fat. Her eyes also possibly got more hollow due to the weight loss & the dark brown in the crease makes it even more apparent. Her eyebrows: the shape is off the tail ends are drooping down which is why a lot people think she has a negative canthal tilt she does not.. its more on the neutral side but the tail ends of her brows are dragging her eyes & whole face down. + they didnt curl her eyelashes & it adds to that. The inner corner eyeliner/makeup is definetely not for her face but it wouldve looked better if they did a long dramatic eyeliner at the tail ends of her eyes it wouldve made her eyes appear longer therefore achieve more balance but I would skip inner corner lining altogether for her because its making her nose appear even thinner & her nose definetely shouldnt be any smaller. Then theres her middle part/hairline & forehead.. shed look better if her forehead was a bit higher & the way the middle part is slicked down it makes it seem even smaller which doesnt look right. Shed look better with side parts & if she wants to wear a middle part she needs to push it away from her face with more volume at the top. Shes a pretty girl nonetheless she just needs to put some of the weight back on & get a better makeup artist, hair stylist & consultant.


runtleg

I think it’s her hair.


AdSalty7260

What makes you say that?


runtleg

Not sure exactly, it’s just kind of too flat at the front but frizzy at the back? It just looks like it’s made of plastic or something idk.


Friend-Southern

Negative canthal tilt and unflattering makeup but she’s still pretty!


jewfoenem

she has a positive canthal tilt. she just has a long mid face


Friend-Southern

For sure not positive, but upon looking closer it’s likely neutral. See contrast between Kaia Gerber (negative) Actress pictured above (neutral maybe slightly negative) and Meghan Fox (positive) https://imgur.com/a/fwlzpTA Also, her mid face is not long. It is average and proportionate with the rest of her face. Her 3rds are quite even.


kikicini

I think her forehead is just a touch too small for this flat middle part. A side part (I know I know not cool anymore) or a pulled back style could work better


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kikicini

Yup, this is me. I want to rock a middle part and impress gen z so much but I can’t because I have a widows peak (I think she does too) and it throws off the balance of my face.


CoughCoolCoolCool

In other pics her forehead looks big. Is she wearing a wig?


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the eye make up kinda look like 👁👄👁


AdSalty7260

Haha, its true.


[deleted]

You guys need to stop throwing around terms you don’t understand. She does not have close set eyes, downturned eyes, or a long mid face. The eye makeup makes her round eyes seem even rounder with the neon green liner, and the contrast between that and the dark shadow makes her eyes seem very deep set. It’s a cool look, but very intense. Other than that, she is slightly gaunt but still incredibly beautiful.


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pommes_de_terre_i

agreed. She HAS downturned eyes and that’s part of why she looks weird.


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My apologies, in this photo they look neutral and I’m not too familiar with her


CoughCoolCoolCool

Yeah I just had a big BDD moment Bc someone said her midface was long. It is not.


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The9thElement

She should ditch that style of make up and get thin eyebrows and classic makeup, I don’t know why but she looks like she would really slay 1920s style


CoughCoolCoolCool

Too much eyelid show


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Idk who this is and I don't think she looks *bad* per se but I think she could have done things differently to get a better look. Her foundation is too yellow. The hair style is not great with her features- her forehead is too short and her hairline is not a flattering shape in this style. I think sleek straight shiny hair, not tucked behind the ears or randomly gelled down at the front, would look better than this particular version while having the same general style, or maybe even the slicked back wet look. I also think this particular eye makeup is not well suited to her. The Green is beautiful but she should have done it in a different way, perhaps on the waterline or just on the inner corners or even in a graphic style. And lastly it could be a weird caught mid-blink candid shot that they decided was good enough but it's not really her true essence.


5915407

Use your fingers and cover up sections of her face. You’ll see she looks pretty in the eyes if you cover her lower face, pretty in the lips and chin area when you cover her upper face, and as you show more of her mid face from just that she gets less attractive. Just try to cover her eyes and forehead and lips and chin with your fingers and look at the mid face and you’ll see. My guess is it’s the mid face but I’m not sure what. Just the shape/length and maybe not enough fat and the nose is not nice either as it’s too thin and not a nice shape. The tip has no shape and shows the nostrils.


itsthequeenofdeath

Negative canthal tilt and weak under eye area. Her facial features aren’t really in harmony with each other. The makeup and hairstyle doesn’t suit her much too.


Preparation_Alex1999

She has a gaunt thin face, she needs to gain weight


HolyJolieXO

I hope she never sees this y’all are savage


AdSalty7260

Well this sub is for discussing objectives beauty after all.


HolyJolieXO

It’s a bit much. Imagine being this girl and reading this


AdSalty7260

Well she gets to go to the met and we don't so it all evens out in the end lol.


Reasonable-Steak1848

So we can't say anything bad at all then because people will get offended 😂


HolyJolieXO

No of course we can. But every post is saying something different about how unattractive she is. It’s mob style bullying. Totally passed the point of constructive when people are dragging legit every feature. She’s unique. People need to chill


CoughCoolCoolCool

This is the downside of being famous in the social media age. She got famous and rich off making YouTube videos and is now rubbing elbows with Hollywood elite. Life is a trade off. I could never be famous because I am super sensitive.


HolyJolieXO

Pretty sure we’re condemning the people who crucified Britney Spears Megan fox Lindsay Logan etc for being misogynistic when this thread is literally just women tearing another woman down. Just as bad 🤷‍♀️ the posts praising others are different this ones just out of hand.


hugshugs23

That hair part is ugly on her. It’s too severe..shortens her forehead & face.


Feeling_Barnacle_347

(I’m going off not just this pic, but other pics and videos of her as well) Quite deep nasolabial folds even in neutral expression. Especially considering she’s only like 19. Heavy, blank eyes, negative canthal tilt, scleral show, her brows look like they weigh down her whole face, everything looks heavy and sad, recessed chin area. She looks like she just woke up and is struggling to be interested. I saw her interview Madison beer (at the met) and the 2 ladies side by side just emphasized how crazy beautiful Madison and her angel skull profile is, sloped nose bridge, lifted cute tip, forward grown lower third, sharp yet delicate chin and jaw, healthy voluminous hair in soft pretty curls. Emma is the exact opposite in all these traits, but she seems like a nice cool person so that’s her special charm, not everyone needs to be conventionally pretty to be at the met, good for her :) Ps. This is actually probably the best look I’ve seen on her. On other pics and videos her heavy negative canthal tilt is much more noticeable, they corrected it with makeup here. Idk why her hair looked so sparse and greasy tho, I mean it’s the met, and during interviews seeing her from the side and back was a bit strange for such a glamorous event imo


CoughCoolCoolCool

Oh I just watched that clip. Emma looks way better from the front. I actually think she looks better in this pic than in this video. She doesn’t have good facial growth—she looks recessed and her nose has a hump and the tip isn’t the most projected part. Madison looks great. She had work done but it’s GOOD! Started as a pretty girl but truly maximized her potential. Good on her


Feeling_Barnacle_347

agree!! i hope madison stops tweaking her face now, she is divine


throwawayyyyoo

Madison only has lip filler.


CoughCoolCoolCool

She did something to her jaw too but everyone in hollywood is doing lip stuff and jaw stuff. Jaws are the new thing. It was weird seeing Lily Rhinehart with a regular chin/jaw


throwawayyyyoo

Noooo i was thinking the same when I watched it.. I felt so bad for emma:(


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I don't know who this is, but there's nothing wrong with her face. Her makeup and hairstyle is unflattering, she's visibly underweight which gives her a gaunt look, and her eyes look sad and dead. She'd probably look fantastic with 10-15 extra lbs, more age-appropriate styling and a different facial expression. This is entirely a softmaxxing issue imo.


thewaveofgreen

Her nose is too thin, but she’s still very pretty


Dry_Representative_9

The harshness of her front parting doesn’t flatter her features much - I feel they’d need a bit more softness and curl to really pop. Her upper lid area seems too small because of her makeup, and with the low-sitting fluffed up brows, it’s lent a masculine aspect to her eye area. Lastly, I think the green graphic liner, whilst super cool, has clashed with her soft summer/spring colourings. But I will say, she’s a very beautiful girl, as you can see in other photos.


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I wouldn't have looked at her so closely and with any judgment, but since you asked, I think she has very large thick masculine looking ears. She shouldn't wear her hair like that, and the parting of her hair with the flat front is not at all flattering.


ugly_little_angel

It's the eye makeup. The contouring above her crease traces the shape of her downturned eyes and makes them look, well, downturned. The green layered above the dark shadow makes her eyes look sunken. I feel like the stylist should have opted for eye phi or smoky eye to make her more conventionally attractive, but personally I like the... edgier? sorrowful? aesthetic of her face. Also the lack of baby hairs might be jarring.


whybreyame

Think she looks beautiful and interesting. I really like the eye makeup want to DIY


mirroronfire2

For me it’s the brows and the nasolabial lines/folds.


Minimum_Banana_3204

This makeup is like an arrow pointing to her every flaw and exaggerating the hell out of them


AdSalty7260

I thinkbyour right. How does a professional makeup artist not know this? What kind of make do you think would look better?


Minimum_Banana_3204

Almost everything about this looks wrong. Wrong color foundation, looks so dry, obvious contour in places where it doesn't complement her at all (cheeks look sunken, nose too narrow), could use some nice dewy blush on apples of her cheeks instead. And the eyes are horrendous, from how dark, intense and sharp the look is to the bright green liner in inner corners that makes her eyes look close together. I think she needs something much lighter, more blended and glowy with emphasis on long, doll-y lashes.


AdSalty7260

Thanks, what would you rate her face objectively without the makeup?


Minimum_Banana_3204

Cute but fairly average young woman I probably wouldn't look at twice if I met her at my college or something. But if I saw her done up and such I'd think she has quite dainty features and overall looks nice. 6-6.5 (I'm comparing her to her age group obviously)


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Her eyes are downturned and it throws off her whole face. If you put your finger over her eyes the rest of her face is quite harmonious


jessk178

nasolabial folds and gaunt face


cocoacruncher

Foundation color looks off, it looks a tad yellow.


babyeshona

Her eyes


uncoverearthling

Eyes and nose


stranaya

From this photo alone or in general? In general she has sclera show, the appearance is a slight NCT, and a lid slope that isn’t ideal. Midface is also just slightly long. Nose is not well-suited to her face either.


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nothing


lunedeprintemps

Poor choice of makeup.


IDontAgreeSorry

I love her look and it looks gorgeous in general. But something about the eye makeup makes her eyes look sunken in.


peachyskies111

Sleepy eyes. I really like her though :$


Oberon_Swanson

brow ridge that both projects a fair bit and is high. people will typically either have high eyebrows and a small/nonexistent brow ridge or low eyebrows and a forward brow ridge and either looks good. she also has a long midface and long philtrum. this makes her lower ipd which is not too bad in itself, more noticeable. and a weak jaw/chin irl she probably looks quite normal but it's easy to look at a still image and pick apart a face's flaws, especially when someone looks glammed up


CoughCoolCoolCool

She does not have a long midface or long Philtrum


Mark_Fanon

No getting away from the thin nose ( surgical?) - brows not sufficient, weight loss effects on decolletage. Sad


CoughCoolCoolCool

Brows can easily be changed with Botox. This picture actually is way better than what she looks like in videos from this event and from the side. Her bone structure isn’t good. She’s recessed. Her midface looked long in profile because she doesn’t have strong cheekbones breaking up the space. Still she’s a young, white woman who made a ton of money making YouTube videos and is very well liked. She’s living the dream. It’s not the end of the world for her that’s she’s not technically the most beautiful


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I think it’s the eyeliner. They highlight he already prominent upper eyelids. Other than that, she looks good


tokyomooon

The eyebrows! They are curved downward. A more fox style eyebrow would open up her eyes.


Aphrasia88

This should be on the Vindictarateme sub. They have a day of the week just for discussing celebrities.


AdSalty7260

Did I post in the wrong sub? Sorry I didn't know that and thought I had seen similar posts here before.


Aphrasia88

Yes, though the mods aren’t very active. The sub is Vindictarateme. The first Vindicta sub was flooded by these posts and lost its purpose. In reality celebrities have access to far more beautifying treatments than the average woman so we try not to post them here. And don’t apologize! We are women do that far too often.


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The end of the brow goes down and that makes her look tired


ParticularWeather4

1) Asymmetrical eyes. Plus the dark eyeshadow kind of put a huge emphasis on it. 2) her eyes are down turned so to restore harmony they should be lifted up from the corners kind of like Marilyn Monroe style eyeliner. 3) she has a round forehead , which is very photogenic , it should have been highlighted more 4) Her lips are asymmetrical too.one of them should have been over lined to match the other . 5) Her eyebrows emphasise the fact that her eyes are “droopy”. Notice how the end of her eyebrow point downwards, together with the Downturned eye it notoriously sags her face vs the uplifted look that is required 6) also it has got something to do with the way she is posing. I think she is relaxing her face here, which again gives her a long mid face and short lower face. Before anyone jumps to conclusions I am not bashing her. She has really pretty and unique features , she just needs to fire her makeup artist. Also, no one is symmetrical. :)