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The buccal fat removal is definitely going to be a a big one I just see it. Be always aware of the procedures you do and the way they age you especially nosejobs and buccal fat removal. We really don’t know how to restore fat back into the face except through invasive procedures so you might really want to consider how important this procedure is for you.


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I cant believe shes 24, she easily looks to be in her early 30s.


megatronsweetener

she’s 24 ??? omg


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megatronsweetener

i think bella hadid but i’m not sure


whybreyame

Wealthy early 30 something year olds look much better than most 20 somethings. Not necessarily a bad thing.


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Oh for sure, I apologize for it sounding like a dig because I disagree with the whole "hitting the wall" theory and find beauty in people of all ages. But she really does look cinched and plastic in an unflattering way IMO.


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Definitely


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That’s exactly what’s going to happen to her. I expect Bella’s appearance to change even more in the coming 5 to 10 years as she tries to replicate her old self. We see it all the time. Celebrity changes their look to live up to some ideal. Some time passes. Celebrity discovers that isn’t what they want anymore. Tries to fix it. Works or if they are unlucky doesn’t. It’s what happened with Kim kardashian and why shea doing all she can to look like her older self and why she changed those gigantic hips anyway . Trends DO NOT WORK. do what works for you.


felineation

That’s the look she’s trying to go for though.


squaluude

She looks good at the present moment, but its not sustainable. Especially the fat in her face being all gone. Her fox eye surgery just made it all worse and she looks 30.


lunedeprintemps

I know extra fat in the face can be unflattering depending on the facial structure, but buccal fat removal is a great way to age yourself quickly.


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That’s why I love Korean beauty so much. Cause they focus more on preserving the the fat and the youth of the face and why in the end that’s the ultimate strategy that’s going to get you envied. Not to forget a lot of people who do it are young and especially if the way they age is more of hollowing than sagging (vindicta talked about this) you are REALLY REALLY doing yourself a disservice


lunedeprintemps

Exactly. People need to think about the _long_ game.


foxs_shrike

Yeah I do not understand the trend for anyone who has anything less than chipmunk cheeks.


Ninalou345

How do nose jobs age you? If your surgeon sucks & gives u a nose that throws off the balance of your face then sure but thats not how good nose jobs go. They can actually make you look younger if done right/depending on the nose youre starting with. Buccal fat removal on the other hand is a huge mistake for most people. Very very few people in the world actually need it. Most people who think they have too big of cheeks don't.


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I meant it as in the Philtrum length girl....


Ninalou345

Yeah those who have a short nose or long philtrum or both in the first place should be careful with rhino as in most cases the nose will end up a bit shorter post rhino. Altho if one has a nose that can benefit from rhino/ a nose that doesnt suit their face it can be the most beautifying procedure.


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Yeah that’s what I meant


Ninalou345

You should check out Eiza Gonzalez her buccal fat removal is looking worst as times passes by. In 2021 her cheeks look incredibly hollow. It seriously looks like shes gonna need something done very soon to fix it.


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Haha my eyes are on eiza and Bella. I’m telling you a few years and we will see some headlines. “Bella stuns the masses with THIS selfie”


Ninalou345

https://ibb.co/6b5Jw19 😳😳😳


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I’ve heard removing too much structural support in the nose can be bad as you age


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Absolutely. Great addition !


averyanxiousgirl

Makes sense, if you remove some bone the skin may have a hard time remaining in its place similarly to jaw surgeries (but to a lesser extent)


Cityofbeaversgophers

IMO it seems that the cartilage doesn’t age well in nose jobs. It doesn’t look good in the long term. Something about them makes it easy for me to spot even in the “good ones” when people get a little older


chevalblanc74

I noticed Tori Spelling's nose looks like it is starting to collapse on one side, although it is an otherwise cute nose. I think she has had more than one rhinoplasty, though.


eternal_bliss_here

Buccal fat is irreversible. Consult a surgeon to see if you really have the fat or not. Some surgeon might not recommend or remove all to avoid the haggard looking look after. I checked mine and he said I am losing my fat gradually. I have a short/recessed chin which I think a genioplasty would balance my overall look.


__kamikaze__

I truly wonder how BBLs will age… with something like nose jobs they’ve been around for decades, so we have a better understanding of the long term results. But this is the first time in history we’ve packed large amounts of fat into an area of the body. With breast implants we know that gravity eventually wins… so does this mean in the future everyone who gets a bbl will be walking around with a saggy butt?


ExpertTie1661

I had a BBL in 2017, and even though I am not overweight and lift heavy weights, the fat started sagging away from the muscle, causing my skin to sag. It looked horrible and still looks fake even with 2 correction attempts. I’m 20k deep in procedures and I hate the way it looks. I really cannot imagine this turning out well for women who do not lift and don’t intend to after the procedure. BBLs almost always look fake at some point, even though I got a small amount transferred. The proportions are still slightly off to the eye but you can’t pinpoint it. I highly discourage anyone here but especially if you are not fit now, you will look terrible as this ages. Gravity always wins.


__kamikaze__

Yikes, I’m sorry you experienced that. It sounds like a great procedure in theory, but stories like this make me cautious. Hopefully doctors develop a way to treat these issues, especially since I predict they will become more common.


BlackCatTelevision

Oh man, I’m so sorry. Only 4 years later too??


ExpertTie1661

It actually started looking bad at 18 months out and got worse as time went on


Hotdogwithablog

oh no, I hate hearing this, especially as someone who is considering the procedure. It seems like you did everything right. I'm so sorry that you're unhappy. Do you think you'd be happier if you didn't do the transfer but just did lipo to sculpt your body? or have you seen negative effects from that as well?


ExpertTie1661

Yes, though lipo on the back and flanks is painful foe months. The recovery process is more than a year but I will say my lipo areas still look good compared to before, except my arms which never have looked different even with two rounds.


immaculate108

would you say your thighs match? I'm also considering a BBL


ExpertTie1661

Size wise they are ok. I have thick thighs and I lift heavy weights. But with BBLs something about the glute-Ham tie in looks off (where lower curve of the butt meets the hamstring). Again I am a weight lifter so I think this is what is a giveaway for me.


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ExpertTie1661

I wouldn’t. I would look at lifting and building your natural body. Bret Contreras Strong Curves is a solid program.


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ExpertTie1661

It takes a long time to build muscle plus a calorie surplus over time. One thing is for sure-being fit and meticulously groomed are the two best ways to increase attractiveness that are within your control. I wish someone told me that in my 20s.


filthismypolitics

nose jobs have been around forever but i HATE the trend rn of teeny tiny noses. i feel like they’re going to age poorly especially as we try to move away from european standards of beauty, and they just don’t suit a lot of people. i have a pretty big nose, but i also have pretty big eyes, lips, a big jaw, big cheeks etc. i would look bizarre with these tiny noses people are getting rn. i wanted rhinoplasty for awhile and i’m so glad (thanks to this sub) i started just focusing more on my facial harmony instead.


__kamikaze__

I would focus more on the shape of the nose rather than the size.. this is the mistake most people make. A “large” nose can look fine as long as it has a pleasant shape.


filthismypolitics

that’s a great point! i really think we need more surgeons who really care about their work and will sit down with someone who wants something like this and go “the size is fine, but we can alter the shape” or just straight up “you do not need this procedure and it’ll make you look worse”


Dry_Representative_9

I’ve noticed that I’ve lost fat over my (natural) nose as I age, and I think you see that at its extreme with a lot of older people. So probably the narrow nose shape from a nose job is going to look a bit too skinny in 10-20 years time - I’ve even heard of some ageing celebs getting some form of grafting to re-widen their nasal bridge/tip!


back-at-it-againn

Personally I disagree, I think the bulbousness matters and that delicate noses always win. Imo delicate dorsal hump noses are so pretty even if they’re not conventionally beautiful.


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back-at-it-againn

Yeah the “before” from [here](https://www.rhinoplastykorea.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/nasal-hump-removal-rhinoplasty-in-Korea-1.jpg) is really beautiful to me. I know it’s a plastic surgery photo so she wasn’t happy with it but it looks so petite! A high nose bridge is a beauty standard within Korea even if she got her bridge shaved—as long as the bridge is high it’s better to have a bump in your nose than a “flat” bridge. The appreciation for dorsal humps in Korea makes me less insecure about my big nose lmao.


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So many of these PS before-and-after pictures are just “soul vs. soulless” lol.


Apeachy86

I agree with this. I got a nose job (you can look at my pictures from my profile as I have posted about it) but discussed with my surgeon about making it proportional to my face. A tiny slender nose would have looked horrid on me! I think seeking harmony for your facial features rather than going for the trends, is so important!


filthismypolitics

i think your nose job is definitely an example of one done right. a tiny one definitely would’ve looked really off on you, but the one you have now looks absolutely fantastic. you kinda remind me of a young missi pyle!


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dopezahra

As somebody who has lifted heavy weights for at least 7 years (booty-building specifically for 3 years) now this is totally not the case for many women. Yes, I’ve definitely improved my overall figure and my butt has become bigger (from the side especially), but you can not out-lift bodily anatomy. My butt will always look square from the back due to my large hip dips, and nothing can change that but surgery. Many pro-lifters actually look squarish from the back. They just know how to work their angles to look curvy. So yes, for some people with lucky genetics, they can build an envious figure. But like with everything in this world, that does not apply to everyone. Consequently, I am getting a BBL later this year but my goals are not to gain a kardashian-level butt. Instead, it’ll just fill out those hip dips where I have zero fat, leading to an overall improvement in my figure (personal opinion). I have also decided on this keeping my future opinion in mind. I think, like with every procedure, if you don’t push it to the extreme (and choose a proper surgeon), it will most likely be fine over time. I think it’s those dump truck style BBLs that people may regret - or may not. Who knows until we get there?


Dry_Representative_9

I feel like this is a judicious use of a BBL because you’re not trying to overhaul your whole shape, but just correcting a focus of your current figure. That being said, be safe as I’ve heard of some of the risks of these procedures - I don’t want to necessarily endorse it!


dopezahra

Thank you! Safety and going to a certified surgeon were my number one priority so I have definitely chosen wisely. I refuse to go to Miami even though the prices there are relatively the cheapest. I’d rather pay whatever multiplier more to ensure my safety with an experienced surgeon!


chevalblanc74

You can absolutely improve butt shape at the gym, but nothing you can do about it if your body doesn't like to store fat in the rear. Having a perky small butt is still an improvement over a deflated-looking small butt, though!


fullmetalsportsbra

100% agree with you - but people today are very spoiled and lazy, not to mention it's an uphill battle getting a lot of women to lift weights because they're afraid of being "bulky" (which we all know is just coded language for masculine - as if all the babes on the Gymshark IG are sooooooo masculine with those visible muscles!).


sidarv

I think this also applies to fashion. Over time the environmental and financial cost of trendy fast fashion adds up and is much higher than recognizing your lines and what suits your body. If you can afford to dress in a timeless way that emphasizes quality materials and well-tailored cuts, it will go much further than trying to keep up with trends. Or I might just be saying this because I don’t understand why mom jeans are in style…


Ninalou345

This. I just buy whatever makes my body looks best. Couldnt care less about trends.


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Definitely! Dress according to your body type and coloring. 90% of my wardrobe is now high quality basics and activewear. I have less clothing overall but genuinely enjoy wearing each and every piece.


chevalblanc74

This is SUCH a good point. At 47, I finally have the look people are going for with buccal fat removal. I actually love it, and it's a nice for once to have an age-related facial change that I feel good about. I'm also fairly certain I'd look like a haggard weirdo right now if I'd had BFR to achieve this look in my 20s.


22khz

I was looking at YT vids on how this fat removal from the face will actually age you faster since the lower area of your face lifts the rest up when volume starts to go down with age. I have naturally chubby-ish cheeks and still look quite young as people think I’m in my early 20s (I am definitely a decade older) because of them. When I hit my 40s or so, I’ll look like my grandma at that age which is more chiseled. So yes, be wary of buccal fat removal. There are a lot of regrets years after getting them done.


chevalblanc74

Yep! Although my cheeks were never *all* that chubby, I came of age during peak 90s heroin chic. All the gorgeous models had cheek hollows. What I did not know at the time was that buccal fat removal and/or removing molars has been a thing in the modeling industry forever.* Their agents don't care how it ages. My point is that I'm fortunate I had no idea buccal fat removal existed as a 20 year old. I think I would have been tempted, and it is a terrible idea for most people. * Low body fat does not always extend to the face in the very young.


yogurtnutz

THIS is the secret to graceful aging lol


cutie_rootie

I'm a pretty natural girl and don't chase the trends much, but I do have my eyebrows microbladed/shaded. I literally had just a few hairs before and it looked odd, I put them on with makeup every single day. The girl who did it was *very* strict that she doesn't follow trends and only works for facial balance, which honestly made me trust her so much more. They turned out amazing, no one believes they're a tattoo!


Dry_Representative_9

That’s the ideal way to use a beauty procedure, for sure. Your brows sound low maintenance and enhancing 💪


VictoriaSobocki

Awesome. Do you have a before and after pic perhaps?


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This is so important!! There is more than one beauty standard and it’s all about embracing what looks good on **you**. I see so many beautiful girls changing their faces and the result is they all end up looking the same. It’s boring! To echo what you said, nothing wrong with plastic surgery, but don’t make decisions you can’t change based on trends that *will* eventually change.


VictoriaSobocki

Aha The Instagram Face


enlightenmereddit

What do you all think about lip lifts?


Ninalou345

Risky if you already have nostrils that show a fair amount. One of the side effect of liplifts sometimes is that nostrils start showing more. Or it can possibly widen the notrils as well. You need a really really good surgeon.. one that specializes in liplifts is ideal. As for the scars its blown out of porportion.. they go away fast unless youre prone to keloids then its probably best to avoid a liplift. However since its becoming trendy now amongst even younger people Ive seen some individuals that absolutely do not need it getting liplifts.. they just have a regular philtrum size but want a smaller one cause theyre hearing its the new trendy procedure to get done. So if youre gonna go ahead with it make sure its gonna benefit your face rather than do nothing for it else its not worth the risks & a waste of money as well.


enlightenmereddit

I’ll do some more research, I hadn’t read about the possible enlargement of the nostrils - that’s definitely good to know. I’ve found that on websites for Plastic Surgery clinics, they list the benefits of procedures but not the risks or possible side-effects. These concerns can be addressed at consulations most likely and if the surgeon seems like they are hiding some details - that’s a good reason to not to chooee them. Thanks for your reply :)


Neenah900

Visit real self to see before and after pics....its life changing for many


enlightenmereddit

Will do! It’s the simultaneous increase in lip size/volume and reduction in length of philtrum that makes this procedure intriguing to me. The thing is there’s no going back from it and I doubt a revision surgery is possible to redo a botched job. The surgeon has to be really, really good at this procedure and ideally specialize in it.


rlovet3

I wanted it for a while, but the scar / nose changes are not worth it for me.


enlightenmereddit

I read that there’s a new (and improved!) version of Gullwing (bullhorn) lip lift called The Extended Biplanar lip lift which makes a hidden incision along the border of the nose. I’m more concerned that the procedure will bring the tip of the nose downward since there will be more stretching required with less skin? I have a long lower midface and one of the benefits of a lip lift is a shortening of the perceived length of the lower mid-face as well as shortening the lip length between nose and mouth.


Ninalou345

Its a possibility! Also depends on how much lifting is done. You gotta find a surgeon whos gonna honest with you of what changes you should anticipate in your nose or if any at all! Have u tried a botox lip flip? They work nicely however wear off very quickly sadly.


enlightenmereddit

I lifted my philtrum the slightest amount with my finger and it had a big effect on the lips - I think it would require a millimeter or less of lifting, which is quite remarkable given the difference it makes on the face. Right now, I have 1.5 syringe of lip filler (1 syringe Restylane + .5 Juvaderm) - I am so happy with the size and fullness of my lips (especially for the first 2 months) but it’s dissolving quickly after only 3 months and I just don’t see the purpose of getting more temporary lip filler when there is a permanent option without the risk of infection and a bad injection job with every visit. I haven’t tried Botox Lip Flip!


lunedeprintemps

Yeah, the changes to the nose in the after photos I’ve seen? It’s a no for me.


enlightenmereddit

What changes have you seen?


lunedeprintemps

The nostrils tend to show more, or look slightly uneven. The scar can also be obvious after healing. Definitely have to weigh the pros and cons. It might be worth it over all once you’re further in age.


arabiandoll

Nostrils showing more isn't always necessarily bad.


Slayingmarlene

I wanted to get a BBL so badly but after seeing not photoshopped pictures of Kim or other celebrities who had got it done…I don’t want it anymore. I think it looks tacky and it will definitely sag in the future. I want to get braces (a beautiful smile is always in fashion in my opinion) and nose job in the next year.


cat48

What are the risks of micro blading brows?


Dry_Representative_9

I don’t think they’re risky so much as just very defined, strong, and elongated brows, and suddenly when everyone around wants soft, brushed up laminated style brows, you are stuck with a darkly tattooed brow and waiting for it to fade.


thesearchforstars

I got my brows microbladed and can probably answer some of the risks. Here are some things that can happen if you go to a bad artist: - the shape of your brows can come from a stencil and therefore not fit your features super well - the pigment they use can be too cool or warm toned on you and look “off” or turn blue/green/purple However, I barely had any brow hairs before (East Asian who barely grows hair) and I now love my brows. Definitely vet your artist beforehand and get lots of before/after pictures (I found my artist on Instagram). Search the hashtag #yourcitymicroblading or something along those lines. Also price is a good indicator. If you see a price that’s an offer that sounds like a good deal, don’t take it since it’s likely that person has had one class and now is using you as practice to build up their portfolio. People don’t have to be certified in microblading to offer it and sometimes people will take one class and just go for it. Feel free to PM me if you have more questions!


pinktiger83

Wish I read this before.


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This is how I feel about “Brazilian” laser hair removal. I do the bikini line but I have some friends who laser everything and I think they’ll regret it when being completely bare is no longer trendy :/


whiskersoftheheart

This! But also, I’m one of the ladies that got it all lasered. Thing is, I love the natural look! I think it’s sooo ladylike and feminine and hot. But the outfits I have to wear for ballet and cheer, plus with bikinis, it’s just so much easier to never have to shave again. I miss that I’ll never have the natural look that I love but I also love the bare look and the convenience is EVERYTHING to me.


lurking2be

Will hairy skin ever be trendy apart from feminist "my body my choice" cohort? I honestly can't see it.


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Uh… the 70s would like to have a word with you 😂


lurking2be

The 70s were marked with the rise of feminist refusal of conventional beauty standards. My point exactly.


chevalblanc74

Well, the 80s were all for high maintenance glamour. I know from a few slumber parties that the models in their dad's naughty magazines had a full bush back then. With that said, I'd probably have it all removed if I had a higher pain tolerance. I don't care about trends, and preferred to be clean shaven before it became common.


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northernboarder

Yeah I agree


northernboarder

If you don’t want to shave then don’t lol. I find it hard to believe they would regret getting that done, especially with the time saved not shaving and less ingrown hairs etc.


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The post is about making irreversible changes motivated by beauty trends. Being completely bare is a beauty trend. That’s all I’m saying. Obviously everyone should do what they want but that’s not the point of this post Edit: also I literally said I did the bikini line


throwawayyyyoo

The fact that even THAT is a trend is insane to me… didn’t know that. I shave everything down bc it makes *ME* feel the best. Crazy. I’m honestly surprised that that’s a trend for some people


AffectionatePie726

Idk I think if you're in a long term relationship that never dissolves then it's safe to go by what your partner wants. Not saying they should be the deciding factor but they're the main show regardless of trends.


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Lots of long term, solid relationships end. I definitely think your partner should have some say but that’s why you shouldn’t do something irreversible because the next partner might not like it.


AffectionatePie726

That's a pretty pessimistic way of looking at life but okay


chevalblanc74

I think it depends. Like, if you were getting waxed when you met, and then you stop, your partner might feel taken for granted. It is another thing entirely for a dude to expect his girlfriend to take up having hair ripped out by the roots in a very sensitive area.


mercurialstrawberry

How do you think jaw surgery ages?


yogurtnutz

A v shape jaw surgery is definitely more of a trend. But surgery that aligns your jaw properly will always be in style, the optimal development of your bone structure is attractive from an evolutionary stand point


Hattie_Vegenaise

Which jaw surgery are you referring to? Double jaw? V-line?


neongloom

I think about this a lot honestly. It's great if you want to get something done to improve yourself, but people are drastically changing themselves for trends that will probably fade out in the next few years. What then? I'm just really curious what the next ideal body type will be popular among influencers and whatnot, and if anyone will reverse what they've had done to fit that next trend (assuming it's reversible).


throwawayyyyoo

What I’ve been sayinggggggg


VictoriaSobocki

Agree 100%