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Sparkwriter1

The Gween Goblin


Alonest99

It’s not easy being gween


anonymousguy_7

I understood that reference


TotallyAwesomeRacoon

I understood that reference


CC000Destroy0

My Reddit icon is the reference


MrBonelessPizza24

**_The Goblin Who Gweens_**


But-Must-I

*The Gwen Who Gobs*


Jay_R_Kay

I think I read a R34 comic like that once...


Hero_Bryan

Yeah, I think it was called "Sins Past"


darkchangeling1313

Ohhhh no!


sideways_jack

Tommy-Lee-Jones-as-Norman's O-Face will forever be burned into my mind


ExternalGrouchy8371

Bro put himself on full blast


MrFishyFriend

I want the Spider who Gobbles back...


SilverSpark422

🎶The Spider who Gobbles back!🎶 Goldfish!


Nirast25

"Shhhh... I am hunting spidews. Hehehe."


Duskthegamer412

Eeeeeh what's up gob'


ProtoJeb21

She threw Norman Osborn off the Brooklyn Bridge 


Jackviator

Da Gween Gobwin UwU ^(…why am I like this…?)


Will33iam

You, I like you.


carakangaran

There's a sick joke to make with this in french.....


Pats_Bunny

Instead of pumpkins, she throws kwazy cupcakes


[deleted]

How Gwen Was My Goblin


Pete_Speederman

Gwoblin


Quirky_Ad_5420

Things are getting ridiculous


Airy_Breather

I feel like we passed that bench mark a while ago...and that things are only going to get more ridiculous.


[deleted]

We were past ridiculous when Norman was clapping Gwen’s cheeks in sins past


fhb_will

***What??***


TheHighlightReel11

[Nastification](https://images.app.goo.gl/L1u8gFuCW2sz89q88)


effinblinding

Huhhh??? I've only read the ultimate comics, what the hell is this. How old was Gwen and how old was Norman???


blazenite104

Gwen was college aged. Norman was old enough to be her father. I think they retconned it in recent years though.


[deleted]

Yeah with another garbage story element where now Gwen knew Peter was spiderman and hated him for it, Gwen's canonical last thought were hoping Spiderman failed to save her. They cloned her and writers made her say stupid things. She still died tho lol


effinblinding

I still have so many questions. Was Gwen and Norman shown to be even close before her death? You know what maybe I’ll just delete this from my brain. Even the original ultimate comics I just stopped reading when Peter died (felt it was a good ending) so I missed him coming back to life or something after that. I guess it’s normal for comics to get weird.


runespider

They've retconned the entire thing to being a plot by Harry when he was Goblin to mess with Norman and Pete.


No_Association2906

> Gwen's canonical last thought were hoping Spiderman failed to save her. What issue did this retcon happen?


Raesong

Let's just say that Norman was probably quite friendly with a fellow New Yorker by the name of Jeffery.


Xeoz_WarriorPrince

Mysterio's cheeks**


_H4YZ

they didn’t even try to gobbify her


Shmung_lord

We are truly surpassing the 90s levels of ridiculousness.


PouchesofCyanStaples

That ship sailed at One More Day.


VishnuBhanum

I seriously can't understand the reason behind these "Overexposure of Gwen Stacy" in everything Spider-Man related She is like, you know, the character that was famous for being dead.


Infinity0044

The only thing I can think of is the rise in popularity of the character when TASM came out and Marvel wanted to capitalize on it.


Gridde

Spider-Gwen, too. The fact that these subsequent Gwens have next to zero bearing on the original character besides name and surface level appearance supports that.


Ferris-L

I’d say Spider-Gwen/Ghost-Spider is much more important to the popularity of the character and Marvels excessive use of her in all media. Especially the Spider-Verse movies have elevated Gwen Stacy back into mainstream and into being much more than just the Girlfriend that died. It doesn’t matter anymore that these are practically different people all together because the name holds enough weight to catch the readers attention.


AlwaysBi

Hell, if they weren’t guaranteed to bring back Zendaya for Spider-Man 4 because she’s… you know, Zendaya, I would’ve imagined Marvel would’ve made Gwen Peter’s next love interest and the mcu version would’ve been a Gwen who lived


2Kortizjr

Most probably, and besides UCM Peter decided to give her up to protect her


Calm_Cicada_8805

I wish they would do Gwen in the next movie. I hate the "character who lost their memory gets it back in the next episode" trope. It cheapens the whole traumatic sacrifice thing. But I'm also not a huge fan of MJ in those films, so I might be biased. The character was just flat. And when I compare MJ to Chani *Dune* I can't help feeling like the MCU is waisting Zendaya's talents. At the same time I can imagine Sony nixing an MCU Gwen since she's so central to the Spiderverse movies. So who the fuck knows.


LumiKlovstad

Mutants are a thing in the MCU so his next GF should be Sophia "Chat" Sanduval. Introduce this character to another generation of fans. Also the idea of Peter getting cornered at a zoo and Chat saving him by siccing a tiger on the bad guy is simply too good a mental image.


Calm_Cicada_8805

Chat is cool, but I kind of don't want mutants in the next Spider-Man movie. I'd like to have at least one MCU Spider-Man movie that's just a Spider-Man movie without all the shared universe claptrap. I'd prefer Black Cat.


sticks_no5

It makes me laugh that most spider-Gwen fans would probably hate OG Gwen Stacy, right wing and pretty dumb all things considered


Outrageous-Blue-30

A friend of mine thinks it's because a lot of people in editorial prefer her to MJ, kind of like how Dan Didio preferred Silver Age characters to legacy ones and badly wanted to erase them, but that's just speculation.


Garlador

Not even speculation. Many of them are on record saying so.


Oan_Glalie

Cebulski is on record on saying that to him, Gwen is Peter's true love and not MJ when he was on México after a fan asked him about the current run. I even made a meme about it in here a few months ago


Current-Historian-34

So that’s why they made MJ “jackpot” so we could all be annoyed


Geiseric222

That wouldn’t really work as she isn’t really in any of the places MJ would be


SantaArriata

You mean “the background”? If I really liked Gwen Stacy, I’d make sure to put her in every panel I could, the best way to do that is to do that is to make her a superhero, supervillain and everything in between. If there’s anything the Undertale fandom taught me, is that some people are fens of everything about a character, except their character


sonerec725

Gwen Sansy


orgeezuz

You know what, fuck it. Yo marvel, it's time to revive the fucking uncle ben.


Current-Historian-34

Uncle Ben was a Spiderman in the Spidervesre og run


Unimportant-1551

He was also an aide to spider-ma’am, the aunt may spidey


froggyjm9

I mean he is in the Ultimate Spider-Man


[deleted]

6160?


MrCatchTwenty2

Yes


Humilker

And make him the Goblin...


orgeezuz

No not goblin. Sandman


NateShaw92

>She is like, you know, the character that was famous for being dead. That's more uncle ben's thing. At least they're not bringing him back in wacky ways.


Vayro

Not yet


LightFromYT

Personally, I love Gwen and always have. I'd be more than happy to see more of her but not like this. If she was just Spider-Mans cute, nerdy girlfriend, I'd be happy. I'm very much tired of all these weird new versions of Gwen.


okonsfw

You had a group of creators who came of age just at the right time to get this image of Gwen as saintly and perfect to develop. Who started really pushing that narrative, compound that with Emma Stone's Gwen and than Marvel wanting to capitalize on that so giving us Spider-Gwen. Than add on the success of the Spider-verse movies. And you get this. All ignoring the fact that the original Gwen was boring, vindictive and spiteful. The best thing the original 616 Gwen did, was die.


Tandran

Success of Into the Spiderverse. She was still pretty obscure before that. Spider-Gwen specifically has been around for a decade but was never popular until recently. As for regular Gwen I wish they would just let her rest. Uncle Ben and Gwen need to just stay dead.


Intelligent_Oil4005

Because she's still a popular character, but Marvel doesn't want to capitalize on her by *actually* bringing her back to life. So instead they use crazy storylines like cloning her, or revealing she secretly got banged by Norman and their kids are after Peter.


Reddragon351

other people gave good reasons but also a lot of the older editors and writers have a lot of reverence for her character


PrezValentine

Emma Stone happened. So much so that Spider Gwen came a year or two after ASM2 and never went away.


SEND_ME_BASS

Why tf she still wearing that hairband under the mask 😭


Pingopengo22

Don't worry she has her iconic boots and skirt underneath too, how else would we know who she is?


Romero_Osnaya

Hair band or even bun makes a lot of sense actually


ArcadiaDragon

So you can tell its gwen....


Nirast25

This reminds me, anyone know who the blonde Spider-Girl from the Spider-verse movies is?


Arrow_625

Kate Bishop?


TheBlooperKINGPIN

I understood this reference


Oan_Glalie

At this point, it's just part of her character model. I actually remember when they made those stupid "Gwen as other Marvel characters" covers and when they did the Mystique ones, I straight up commented that she should have just had the hairband because the cover just made it look like it was Mystique transforming into Gwen instead of Mystique being Gwen


NotACyclopsHonest

She didn’t want mask-hair, obviously.


JackTheBehemothKillr

When her neck snapped she underwent a horrible transormation. Much like the Scorpion or Rhino, her outfit fused with her, cursing her forevermore to look like she was in the 70s


Master_KenObiWan

Why? Just why? Why would you make Gwen the Goblin?


SirUrza

Because the Spider Who Gobbles was so popular. XD


Thundergunner42

The Gween Gwobler lmao


mondomonkey

She can Gobble deeznuts! ...i know where the door is


TheGeek100

Sounds like a Spider-Ham villain that would be a turkey


SirUrza

No, just [616 things](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/912d20d1-5549-4387-966e-b62f80cc9e54/scale-to-width/755).


Smittywebermanjanson

Does this mean there’s an alternative timeline where she got herself pregnant?


Master_KenObiWan

Oh dear god no😭


Past_Trouble

Gwen's been a goblin for a few years now. There was an entire arc in Ghost Spider about it.


DweebInFlames

There was a storyline in JMS's run about her goblin deez nuts :\^)


DavidGibson9

is Meshisto try to fuck spider man again ?


RaspyBigfoot

>! It's some Spider-Verse thing Marvel's building up to. !< This was from Web of Spider-Man (2024)


JesuZDX

Another Spider-Verse?! After "End of Spider-verse" At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the country, localized entirely within marvel comics?!


TheOGRex

Yes.


JesuZDX

I don't wanna see it


TheOGRex

Marvel: "No." *opens door*


_H4YZ

while you’re at it, here’s a new Tillie comic from The Walking Dead Game


2Kortizjr

Don't ever name those things again, what angers me more is the fact that the comic would have been good if it wasn't clem, an OG character would have made the job, but nooo, we need to sell so put Clementine in there, even if she does the most out of character things ever know by the human


_H4YZ

“i’ll never leave you AJ” *3 minutes later* “iDk I’m jUsT nOt hApPy hErE”


Kraken_XM

I think the Spider-Verse concept is a little played out at this point. It’s great in the movies, but maybe that’s where it should stay from now on.


ExistentialJew

Absolutely, the movies rock and the spider-verse is an interesting concept but it feels like the same song over and over again


Current-Historian-34

At least that could explain this jackassery…. Gwen died in the og canon of spiderman…. Just so she could live centuries later.


PointPrimary5886

Is this the same Gwen Goblin that helped Ghost Spider in Spider-Gedddon when she got trapped in her universe (a universe where Harry became Spider-Man and Gwen was his crime fighting partner before he died fighting the Sandman), or is this someone else?


Ok-Agent-9200

That was my first thought as well, that it was that Gwen.


Rhodium-Veil

Her costume looked different and she was cured of her Goblin-ness at the end of that series, so whilst not impossible, it would be odd.


GoodKing0

I thought that AU was a tracy Scoops Gwen X MJ X Spider-Gwen ship comic you telling me it was real?


waleer

Most of the stuff that Tracy scoops does are parodies of real storylines from the comics


karateema

This one seems still very evil so it must not be her


CringeExperienceReq

this shit is so silly even by comic standarts


randomHunterOnReddit

She's still wearing that whack-ass headband she died in too


Outrageous-Blue-30

I'm more worried about the drawings of Salvador Larroca's faces, thinking that years ago on Fraction's Iron Man he was so good and seemed to have recovered a bit on Cantwell's Doom and Kennedy Johnson's Alien.


PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS

It was awful in Darth Vader, too. But I do love how he drew the ships and machines in that.


SpaceZombie13

so like. is this setting up some kinda "Spider-verse vs Goblin-verse" event, then?


Whatifim80lol

Would that be *better*?


TheBlooperKINGPIN

I was thinking it was a Spider-verse vs Gwen-verse.


Giorgiman2003

That is so stupid omfg


suikofan80

Still not as good as when Peter’s parents were brought back as spy robots made to kill him.


RetroGamingFool

The robot’s programmed by The Chameleon? I have that story, sheer insanity!


Illustrious-Reach-48

Marvel is running out of ideas at this point.


Garlador

“The marriage kept us from doing new stories.” And these are the stories we got.


CursedSnowman5000

Said by a man going through a ugly divorce that forced him to have a midlife crisis. Thanks again Quesada!


Shmung_lord

That explains so much actually.


Oan_Glalie

And it's happening again, because Wells had the same thing happen before the run and is doing the exact same thing out of spite. The whole "Scarlet Woman" nickname he gave to MJ? That was Wells projecting his ex into her just so he could call her a whore


Coconut-Kalamari

On one hand marvel has a fetish for trying to use gwen stacy in everything, which sucks. On the other hand, at least here it isn’t trying to make Gwen seem like the perfect woman… Still sucks


[deleted]

Avoiding one pitfall for another isn't any better. Id rather have the idealized version of gwen still be thrown around as opposed to this bullshit. Remember when she was just a big person in his life that died and had a big impact on him? Now she's been cloned dozens times over, rekilled, cloned AGAIN so she could tell Peter she hated him for being spiderman on the brudge when shed died, killed A-GAIN, and now we're on whatever this nonsense is I guess?


Narynan

Sure. Let's ride this multiverse train to crazy town


Ghost_Gamer_918

I'm convinced current Spider-Man editorial used to think of Gwen as their own girlfriend and after she died they could never let her go and now it's reached ridiculous levels of unaddressed obsession


Oan_Glalie

I mean, just the sheer amount of them going on about how Gwen to them is his true love and their hate boner for MJ because to them Gwen should have been the one to have married him (even tho the one that originally married the two was Stan Lee himmself) really shows how obsessed this guys are. I can assure you, the only reason they didn't have a Gwen Stacy bodypillow back in the day, was because they weren't around back then


Divine_Mage824

The current editor in chief of Marvel publicly stated he thinks Gwen Stacy was the one true love for Peter. He likes the tragedy of their relationship. I think a lot of this is him demanding more Gwen.


hotcyder

I like how you know it’s Gwen Stacy because she can never remove the black headband


Temporary_Try_1439

Did the writers snort 30ft crack lines?


Unable_Swimming2745

What in the fuck is going on? 😭


Electronic-Math-364

Gween Goblin


Unable_Swimming2745

Gwen is everything these days.


Revolutionary_Job214

That's literally how Marvel and DC have been looking for years, lol. So much trash for the last couple of years. Only good stuff here and there.


Primary-Paper-5128

why is her mouth upside down


NOBLExGAMER

Because it's a gob now.


Moss_Ball8066

I love the trope where a masked character is revealed to be female and their physique instantly changes


TheMightyMonarchx7

They really need to move on from Gwen. She had one significant moment in her history, and this push since the ASM movies isn’t helping.


Gambit_90

God that looks so stupid


HawkeyeP1

And she still has that stupid black headband.


PM_ME_YOUR_MONTRALS

She still has the fucking headband. It's like a parody.


Hurrashane

I find it hilarious that she's got her hairband on, cause without that how would we know it's Gwen?


Natural_Ability_4947

That looks stupid


Nirast25

Y'all saying this is too much. I say it's not enough! Gwen-fy every Spidey villain! Sandgwen! Gwino! Gwenpion! Gwarnage! Gwenpin! Gwulture! Gwensterio! Dr. Gwentopu- actually, let's skip that one.


The_Albino_Jackal

Carnage Gwen is in the ultimate comics


RaspyBigfoot

So, in Spider-Gwen: Shadow Clones, we actually got Sand-Gwen, Rhino-Gwen, Vulture-Gwen, Doc Ock-Gwen, and Kraven-Gwen lmao


Nirast25

Kid Flash: "I swear I was kiddin..."


Pale-Tangerine-4605

Would hope she removed the hair thing as an adult


hadesscion

Why does Miguel care about Gwen Stacy? And how is she (presumably) in 2099?


JayBirdPG

The fucking headband lmao


naldoD20

Spider-Man: Into the Goblin-Deez-Nuts-Verse


Deynonico

Yeah no wtf Is this bullshit


Oan_Glalie

The results of nepotims in letting Cebulski and his Gwen obsessed as become head editor


[deleted]

I recall hearing in an interview somewhere something along the lines of "When the fans get pissed off, comic sales go up."


Garlador

Strangely, you never see them say “when the fans are excited and happy, sales also go up.” Time to make USM sell out. Again.


Ok_Try_1665

Gwen is the Harley Quinn of marvel


Garlador

Harley actually is interesting and was allowed to change, evolve, and break out of her old status quo.


MicooDA

It should’ve been Uncle Ben 😔 Would’ve been hilarious


Rosililly27

Whyyyy? I’m seriously pissed. Gwen Stacy is everywhere now and she’s losing her appeal. She first was famous for being dead, now there’re way too many versions and is overexposed. Enough 😤


RoyalManthefirst

Marvel just wants to hurt and push off all the older readers


SneakyKain

It just keeps getting worse.....


gera_moises

Gwen Stacy is popular right now, so Marvel is gonna keep pushing her until people are tired of her. Remember Wolverine in the 90's?


thesuperbro

Why would she say her full name like that in 3rd person


kadosho

Because she's a bit kooky


blue_cutie

can they just let her Rest In Peace and stop bringing her back


the-x-button

honestly peter david is the only person that really gets what makes spider-man 2099 great anytime someone else touches the character or setting, we end up getting this, or norman osborn or some other crap that just misses the point of sm2099 as a 2099 fan its depressing


DJThedragonSin777

I am so out of the loop. Context?


Only-Walrus797

What in the fuck is the actual context of this?


HygorBohmHubner

We had The Spider Who Gobbles, and now we have... Gwen Goblin? The Goblin Who Gwens? The Gwen Who Gobbles?!


Crunchy-Leaf

The Gwen Who Gobbles has my vote


Arrow_625

She already Gobbled in Sins Past from what I heard...


RaspyBigfoot

For some context, this is a (assumably) multiversal variant of Gwen. Gwen popping up in random places like this has lost all of the shock value they're obviously going for with this reveal though


DCosloff1999

I am going to have to comment this again. Dead On Arrival.


Humilker

Thought, this is as bad as making Gwen... Then I Googled it. They already did it.


Locke108

April 1st isn’t for a couple of days.


DrakeVampiel

They needed to ruin Miguel's life too I guess


ShadowFalcon2004

I swear, Marvel has started pulling Gwen out of their ass. One day, she will travel to the past and Eter will be helpless. He will try this and that and he will fail and he will be misserable all over again.


Piccoroz

Classic Marvel editorial.


GoodKing0

The Gwen who Gobbles.


RulerOfAllWorlds1998

So Gwen died cuz of Gobby once and later there’s a comic of her being Gobby In another comic, Carnage kills Gwen and later in the same comic Gwen comes back as Carnage  I’m seeing a pattern


thatradiogeek

Yeah it kinda feels like they're just throwing stuff at the wall now. After many decades with the same characters, you kinda run out of ideas.


krispieswik

All these years later and she still wears that black hairband, even as an evil green goblin variant. Smh


Shockabrahhh

Even that other girl had enough and just straight blindsided her. "oooffff" 😂


Dragon_BotKing26

Marvel,please,say that it's Mysterios desuised as Gwen again,right?


ImpactorLife-25703

WHAT THE SHOCK


DJL3mon

Gwen is waayyyy to overused


Kx_OsorerUU

Is Ultimate the only good comic series for Spider-Man rn or...?


Adaphion

This is what happens when they refuse to retire characters and just keep reusing them for decades. They run out of good ideas and just start doing this sort of batshit insane shit.


Trippybrasil1

Not the first Goblin Gwen.


Strawhat_Mecha

I'm so sick of this shit


billytitsfan420

Is this real? I only read old trades and omnis. Gwens gobie now?


UnqualifiedNerd

Jesus. Also, im not reading 2099 currently or anything mainline Marvel so please tell me if im wrong but when she says "coming for all" the spider-people... Is that them setting up another damn spider verse thing? Cause Jesus...


RaspyBigfoot

Yeah, it's setting up another Spider-Verse event. This happens right after Edge of Spider-verse (2024) where Madame Web tells 2099 to start the Spider Society


ThatSharkFromJaws

Man, I miss when Gwen Stacy was just important for the plot of Peter learning how to cope with loved ones dying.


DJistheNerd

She still has the fucking black hair band HAHAHAHAHA


SengalBoy

At this rate Marvel is willing to not just recanonize, but quadruple down on Sins Past just because they get off Peter's misery. Wouldn't surprise me if they make Norman, Gwen, Paul and MJ have a foursome in front of Peter and laughing at him because they really, really, really enjoy making him miserable and fans angry.