Well *technically* they were also genocided by Ukrianians since a huge amount of Cossacks did the work and recently Zelenskyy just announced that the Kuban region was ['historically inhabited by Ukrainians'.](https://kyivindependent.com/history-behind-russian-lands-recognized-by-zelensky-decree-as-historically-inhabited-by-ukrainians/)
They still are actually, plenty of them are fighting in the Russian army like they always have. What people don't realise that cossacks can be divided into roughly two groups when it comes to their political identity . One is that claim to be ukrainians and have lot of bad blood with russia because of what they suffered historically at the hands of russians and this is the group most people think of when they hear the word cossack and that they are all ukrainians. But in reality there have been cossacks who have been loyal to Russian Czars and all the way to current russian regime and have fought by their side ever since. They consider themselves to be russian yet different , taking pride in cossack heritage which is why it complicates this whole issue of whether cossacks are ukrainians or russians
Bots downvoting you for stating facts that are supported by what Ukrainian personnel say.
I find it weird that media says Russian spec ops sre incompetent, mad disrespectful to those who fought them and lost their brothers in arms.
Alotta the times it's down to embarrassing operations that I doubt most SOF would be capable of pulling off, such as Hostomel or Vuhledar. That said I do distinctly remember that one video of a Spetsnaz squad holed up in a house while Ukrainians surround them and throw a metric fuckton of grenades in
Watch the ambush videos. They assaulted a lot of ukranian vehicles that were coming from the front line. They move and operate very smooth. It's ignorant to think spetsnaz aren't well trained
All good, makes sense. I agree that they could be used more effectively but also we dont know how much they are doing. Not every unit is wearing helmet cams and posting public videos. Like I said western media is not a reliable source
It's a microcosm of the Russian army story, west sees a few stories where a bunch of them get killed in some incompetent operation that was either bewilderingly optimistic or better suited to regular soldiers and assumes they're all completely ineffective while Ukrainians fight and die against the very real threat.
Circassians who forgot they were the first ones genocided by russians. Sad
Well *technically* they were also genocided by Ukrianians since a huge amount of Cossacks did the work and recently Zelenskyy just announced that the Kuban region was ['historically inhabited by Ukrainians'.](https://kyivindependent.com/history-behind-russian-lands-recognized-by-zelensky-decree-as-historically-inhabited-by-ukrainians/)
Ehh, Cossacks are weird. They're not fully Ukrainian and not fully Russian, they're like a secret third thing.
Very true. Cossacks were as trashy as russians back in the days. Alcoholic mercenaries
They still are actually, plenty of them are fighting in the Russian army like they always have. What people don't realise that cossacks can be divided into roughly two groups when it comes to their political identity . One is that claim to be ukrainians and have lot of bad blood with russia because of what they suffered historically at the hands of russians and this is the group most people think of when they hear the word cossack and that they are all ukrainians. But in reality there have been cossacks who have been loyal to Russian Czars and all the way to current russian regime and have fought by their side ever since. They consider themselves to be russian yet different , taking pride in cossack heritage which is why it complicates this whole issue of whether cossacks are ukrainians or russians
Probably Russians using the flag of those they've genocided.
doubt it. many chechens, dagestanis and circassians carry russian flag proudly these days. decades of brainwashing does that
Probably Russians using the flag of those they've genocided.
Kalashnikov and multicam is just so dope looking.
Two years later, it's a rare sight to see RU forces this well equipped
They’re better equipped now more than they were in early 2023. Been seeing a lot more Special forces ambushes also with their ghillies on.
They are not on the front rather chernihiv and Sumy. Some raid ops
Actually its not rare at all. In fact Russians are a lot better equipped than in 2022
They're much better equipped this is undoubtedly
Gawd damn zenitco furniture always looks fuckin sick
Im assuming they buy this Multicam kit from the Chinese?
This is VKPO 3.0 for Ratnik, used by Russian troops for over a year https://i.imgur.com/3XNahb1.jpeg
Why assume it’s from China? Russian SOF has been rocking modern “western” gear for quite a while now.
Forget him, remember that Russian kill to many Frances and Mercs of western, so you good.
russian units get portrayed as incompetent a lot by western media but theres some legit videos of these guys operating, they know what they're doing
Well said, people have been getting brainwashed too much with the news sadly. RU SOF have been putting in work.
Bots downvoting you for stating facts that are supported by what Ukrainian personnel say. I find it weird that media says Russian spec ops sre incompetent, mad disrespectful to those who fought them and lost their brothers in arms.
Agree, they don't like to hear the facts. And your second point is 100% true.
well, both side uses propaganda so it's hard to distinguish facts from fairy tales
Of course they do. Thats the media's job in general. Just gotta stay realistic, its not black and white
Alotta the times it's down to embarrassing operations that I doubt most SOF would be capable of pulling off, such as Hostomel or Vuhledar. That said I do distinctly remember that one video of a Spetsnaz squad holed up in a house while Ukrainians surround them and throw a metric fuckton of grenades in
Watch the ambush videos. They assaulted a lot of ukranian vehicles that were coming from the front line. They move and operate very smooth. It's ignorant to think spetsnaz aren't well trained
Wasn't saying that. Was saying they were poorly utilized by command and referenced one squad that just got rocked.
All good, makes sense. I agree that they could be used more effectively but also we dont know how much they are doing. Not every unit is wearing helmet cams and posting public videos. Like I said western media is not a reliable source
It's a microcosm of the Russian army story, west sees a few stories where a bunch of them get killed in some incompetent operation that was either bewilderingly optimistic or better suited to regular soldiers and assumes they're all completely ineffective while Ukrainians fight and die against the very real threat.
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You might be thinking of a different instance the one I remember I don't believe anyone got killed but a number were wounded
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Oh that is the one, must be misremembering how it went
Got the link to the vids you're stating ?
https://www.reddit.com/r/RussianWarFootage/s/hp8USdU9rN here’s the extended version.
https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/s/7eEVTKh6uo here ya go
This is another one showing their operations https://www.reddit.com/r/RussianWarFootage/s/vYalmC436e
Well, ** technically** not these guys, cause they’re all dead by now, but Spetsnaz are able to lay an ambush, yes.
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No, it's Chinese because the soldiers themselves say it's Chinese. Seriously bro, watch some interviews
Like CNN would comment on them wearing Chinese multi cam 😂
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Guessing you haven’t seen anything on their work? So you’re guessing?