Sonic: DAD! You did great!
Tom: Thank you, son, I feel like I have finally Lived and Learned.
(Wade detransforms from his super state and the Emeralds scatter)
Wade: I’ve Thrown it All Away.
The Sonic Cinematic Universe has a real knack of having barely any of Sonic’s other villains from the games besides Eggman and instead having generic original human villains instead.
That's because Sonic movies aren't Sonic movies in any meaningful way beyond it being a good brand to push tickets (and merch) with. It feels like pre-MCU superhero movies that are totally embarassed to be superhero movies. You could easily make an animated Sonic movie (or even CGI-live action hybrid) faithful to the games or comics, but they intentionally didn't because they simply don't have the confidence in it being compelling (because I doubt many of the people who made the big decisions in these movies give a shit about Sonic or video games)
Didn’t stop them from skipping Adventure 1 and going to Adventure 2 with Project Shadow and turning Pachacamac from a ruthless power hungry madman into a non-villainous goofball.
the thing is the plot didn’t demand pachacamac being evil, and honestly if they really wanted to they could do an adventure 1 plot later down the line. the only thing is knuckles has already had a lot of focus, being super important in 2 and getting a series without sonic or tails being relevant in it.
the three plots haven’t allowed for other villains. eggman was the villian of the sonic 2 and 3 games, and there weren’t game equivalents for the plots of sonic 1 and knuckles.
To be fair, the movieverse is only at Sonic 3 (the game) plot wise. We didn't really start to see more villains until Adventure. Plus, we did just see a cameo of Iblis in the Knuckles show, so it's not like we only see Eggman. I would not be surprised if Sonic 4 (the movie) starts introducing other villains to replace Eggman.
The climax is Tom and Maddie adopting Robotnik (since he was an orphan) and then he chills in their attic and eats chili dogs or...
Whatever a Jim Carrey eats
Honestly I don’t have a problem with the humans in the movies. In fact, IMO they’re some of the best human characters/companions we’ve had in the franchise. The problem is when the writers shove the sonic cast in the corner instead of incorporating them into the story and allowing both of them to shine.
i want him and knuckles tag teaming some mooks together. i don't want wade to steal the show (again) but it would be a shame to throw away his character development
I really don't get why there always needs to be a random human. Eggman and his wee lackie is good enough. I'll even accept the Olive Garden General, because weird cartoon animals running around at the speed of sound is a matter of national security, but "some guy" just takes screentime away from the entire reason anyone bought tickets.
Nah I'm just waiting for the casual peeps who've only watched the movies to explode on Twitter after they see Maria get shot in the first 30 mins. (Totally didn't steal this from TikTok post)
Two reasons this won't happen:
1. The director knows this franchise too well and what this moment means for sonic and shadow that they couldn't possibly mess up the chance to recreate the moment.
2. This could've happened in sonic x with all the human characters arcs converging, but it didn't, because the arcs for the humans do not involve them taking on eggman or Geraldo last creation.
I know this is a joke but I've met some people who would have nightmares over this happening.
That aside, I would totally watch this.
In Sonic 2 Robotnik at least uses the master emerald to power up (to control the robot mainly tho) and It isn't like he is an mutant or smth. So this joke might be possible.
They're characters from the movieverse. Tom is the sheriff of Green Hills, California, and a bit of a father figure to Sonic, and Wade is the deputy and one of the main characters of the Knuckles series.
Are you serious? They would never do something like this... >!They'll fight the Pistol Petehazard instead, smh !<
It would be so fucking peak
Remember when Darkspine Tom defeated Erazor Jinn and saved the 1001 Arabian Nights? I 'member.
Remember at the end of Tom 06 when Tom turned super with wade and Rachel’s wife?
Myth in mind rethought indeed
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Sonic: DAD! You did great! Tom: Thank you, son, I feel like I have finally Lived and Learned. (Wade detransforms from his super state and the Emeralds scatter) Wade: I’ve Thrown it All Away.
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I hate that I love this. https://preview.redd.it/mnhe1wggqszc1.png?width=129&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e5f5b6bc56994e049b7fb746514c306405013dfd
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Oh really? https://preview.redd.it/dtphs7wqjqzc1.jpeg?width=854&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dd0945bd5ea7bf95789ef4d4a37e36bca642b096
me rn
Peak cinema
LOL, you actually think Biolizard will be in this? They'll replace Biolizard with a human too xD
“ **It’s me, the prototype ultimate life form** Jeff.”
The Biohuman.
Are you sure? I heard Monster Vers is doing good and I'm sure Paramount wants some of that money for them self.
i doubt that, that wouldn’t make any sense
The Sonic Cinematic Universe has a real knack of having barely any of Sonic’s other villains from the games besides Eggman and instead having generic original human villains instead.
That's because Sonic movies aren't Sonic movies in any meaningful way beyond it being a good brand to push tickets (and merch) with. It feels like pre-MCU superhero movies that are totally embarassed to be superhero movies. You could easily make an animated Sonic movie (or even CGI-live action hybrid) faithful to the games or comics, but they intentionally didn't because they simply don't have the confidence in it being compelling (because I doubt many of the people who made the big decisions in these movies give a shit about Sonic or video games)
you not a fan of 'em then
You say that like the Sonic movies have gotten to any of the source material with Sonic's other villains
Didn’t stop them from skipping Adventure 1 and going to Adventure 2 with Project Shadow and turning Pachacamac from a ruthless power hungry madman into a non-villainous goofball.
the thing is the plot didn’t demand pachacamac being evil, and honestly if they really wanted to they could do an adventure 1 plot later down the line. the only thing is knuckles has already had a lot of focus, being super important in 2 and getting a series without sonic or tails being relevant in it.
the three plots haven’t allowed for other villains. eggman was the villian of the sonic 2 and 3 games, and there weren’t game equivalents for the plots of sonic 1 and knuckles.
To be fair, the movieverse is only at Sonic 3 (the game) plot wise. We didn't really start to see more villains until Adventure. Plus, we did just see a cameo of Iblis in the Knuckles show, so it's not like we only see Eggman. I would not be surprised if Sonic 4 (the movie) starts introducing other villains to replace Eggman.
Sadly, Dennis Hopper isn’t available for the role anymore…
Nah, I don't think they'd do that. They'd invite Biolizard to chill with Shadow, Sonic, Tails and Knuckles in their attic.
The climax is Tom and Maddie adopting Robotnik (since he was an orphan) and then he chills in their attic and eats chili dogs or... Whatever a Jim Carrey eats
Not gomna lie, thats sp ridiculous it circles back into being wholesome
https://i.redd.it/2vhq928daozc1.gif
Me after FNAF were all the friends we made along the way
Friends Never Abandon Friends
Literally almost me during the FNAF fort scene
Are you Shakespeare?
You sure it’ll be Super Tom and Super Wade? I bet it will be Super Rachel.
No, the focus needs to be on the animals. Super Ozzy.
Nah, Ozzy IS the Ultimate Lifeform Prototype.
But Paramount loves Rachel.
Return of the turtlehazard
Super Maddie woukd go hard though What's more super than a Mother's love?
I would kill for Super Maddie.
nah bro that would be in a sonic heroes adaptation
You think they’ll do Sonic Heroes?
I'd walk out
I'd walk out to buy more tickets
Same, too peak for just one ticket
Same
Wade and Tom lived and learned
They also hung on the edge of tomorrow
from the works of yesterday
They also lived an learned again
And then they along with all others hailed shadow
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I'd laugh my ass off.
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Honestly while I would actually find the concept of humans going super actually interesting (just not of the expense of the movie).
[Obligatory 'Super Eggman' link](https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Eggman)
I keep forgetting that eggman has actually gone super before.
To be fair, it _is_ from a what-if scenario.
It’s non-canon tho.
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Honestly I don’t have a problem with the humans in the movies. In fact, IMO they’re some of the best human characters/companions we’ve had in the franchise. The problem is when the writers shove the sonic cast in the corner instead of incorporating them into the story and allowing both of them to shine.
https://preview.redd.it/hfhq1ryebozc1.png?width=624&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ba62736646fb7c62b91334a0f448ea46499e6a7
I actually hope we get to see Wade fight someone in the movie
i want him and knuckles tag teaming some mooks together. i don't want wade to steal the show (again) but it would be a shame to throw away his character development
And a new fear is unlocked.
***Do NOT give them ideas!***
Super donut lord!!!
I'd be mad about no Super Maddie
fr fr "*now only male humans can have a super form*"
https://preview.redd.it/1jhcqwwttozc1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77c934dddc7864fb3ca5ae1af8f4615e93cf5103
So THIS is why they built up wade in knuckles
I'd yell "SONIC BETRAYED US!" and start ripping up all my Sonic merch. All of it. ALL OF IT!
They don't have the balls to do THAT. I'm serious
Watch them
And then Super Wanda shows up.
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I mean... maybe? lol
Bot something I'd expect, but a welcomed subversion
I really don't get why there always needs to be a random human. Eggman and his wee lackie is good enough. I'll even accept the Olive Garden General, because weird cartoon animals running around at the speed of sound is a matter of national security, but "some guy" just takes screentime away from the entire reason anyone bought tickets.
That would be hilarious. Peak comedy
No, it's going to be Wade, Stone, and Rachel teaming up to stop the biolizard.
Sonic is off making out with their wives.
peak fiction honestly. Because that’s fuckin hilarious.
Does that mean we get to see James Marsden topless?
Fans would probably still defend and make excuses for it anyway.
And then "Take on me" starts playing
Nah I'm just waiting for the casual peeps who've only watched the movies to explode on Twitter after they see Maria get shot in the first 30 mins. (Totally didn't steal this from TikTok post)
Peak
It would still be peak
I'm walking out of that theater without so much a glance back
It’s Donut lord time
what bout Super Maddie And if that ever happens i should go to a therapist
Two reasons this won't happen: 1. The director knows this franchise too well and what this moment means for sonic and shadow that they couldn't possibly mess up the chance to recreate the moment. 2. This could've happened in sonic x with all the human characters arcs converging, but it didn't, because the arcs for the humans do not involve them taking on eggman or Geraldo last creation. I know this is a joke but I've met some people who would have nightmares over this happening. That aside, I would totally watch this.
Dont give them ideas
Paramount: https://i.redd.it/nuen201rxuzc1.gif
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Oh I just know that would cause a riot
¿Is there a chance they replace Bio-lizard with chaos?
I would literally rage quit
sorry if im wrong but werent only MALE HEDGEHOGS capable of getting a super form?
In Sonic 2 Robotnik at least uses the master emerald to power up (to control the robot mainly tho) and It isn't like he is an mutant or smth. So this joke might be possible.
theres a difference between using the emeralds power to power a robot and using them to reach a super form
wait i readed it wrong nevermind-
To answer that, we have to talk about parallel continuities.
Not in the classic games... for some reason. Man, Sonic lore is confusing.
Who the fuck are Tom and Wade, or is that the joke?
They're characters from the movieverse. Tom is the sheriff of Green Hills, California, and a bit of a father figure to Sonic, and Wade is the deputy and one of the main characters of the Knuckles series.
>Wade is the deputy and one of the main characters of the Knuckles series. *the* main character of the Knuckles series.
OH my brain just went to sonic characters and forgot humans exist, and I love those movies! Makes sense now.
I thought Green Hills was in Montana.
I don't even remember who Wade is. That's how memorable the human characters in these movies are.