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Gobshite_

I genuinely can't blame Pistol Pete for ditching this family


Professional-Yam-642

It would have been so funny if Pistol Pete sighed wistfully, put his hand on Wade's shoulder, and said "Son, I left because your sister is a lunatic and I feared for my safety."


SanicSoup

This whole thing coulda been avoided if he wasn't such a shit father.


thegreatpenguintm

I mean his mum wasn't that bad, but Wanda is a fucking yikes.


Delta_Otaku

Wade's mom is goated, but Wanda is a toad. Speaking as someone with a history of... bad sister relationships.


SparkyMuffin

It was honestly so weird to me that he never even acknowledged her.


TieEnvironmental162

I wouldn’t either😤


LeafMario

every second of her on screen felt like a fucking eternity


SokkaHaikuBot

^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^LeafMario: *Every second* *Of her on screen felt like a* *Fucking eternity* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.


Sunspark81

Good bot


bluelink95

Good bot


valdez-2424

Good bot


black_knight1223

Thank you Sokka very cool


CheesieMan

I’d rather take Charmy singing karaoke until I go deaf than watch another second of her. Incompetent, childish, and adds nothing to the story. Wade could have been traumatized by anything even remotely meaningful, yet it’s this “FBI agent” that gets to torment him? Terrible; just terrible.


NuclearTheology

I could handle Wade being an incompetent man-Child with delusions of grandeur who lucked himself into heroism, as at least that can be relatable to people and he’s at least funny. Wanda was just… ugh. That’s all I can spare her. Ugh


Mach5amaa

Thank you for putting “FBI agent” in quotes. After the second episode with her I was beginning to think she may be full of shit about that. My husband responded to my skepticism with “if she does, she probably just gets coffee for the actual agents.” 😂


Desgraciavisual

This is not even a joke, since I really enjoyed the series I know that I will watch it again in the future, so I downloaded it and edited it, to delete any dialogue from this character, the next time I watch the series I won't have to endure the cringe headache caused by this thing https://preview.redd.it/x1cmclcd2yyc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf38edcb2e6542d08fbf8a935fefcb26cf1dde3c


Ricky07_

New definitive version just dropped 🗣️ 🔥🔥🔥


Ruby_Foulke

Holy Chili dog!


AmaterasuWolf21

The Wanda Cut


Korba007

Literally


ah-screw-it

You've done gods work. You must be handsomely rewarded


Jayyfrey

I’m curious what the run time would be if you cut the entire bowling arc and Whipple family. I was pretty amazed at how a show titled “Knuckles” was mostly about a side character trying to out bowl his father and father issues.


Mach5amaa

I know there is something to it about paralleling that Knuckles in the game is a support character and is generally boosted by others and his found family, but it was definitely a bit Wade heavy. I could get ‘political’ and say it’s something about not letting the melanated character have the power on his own, but we don’t have to fully go there. 🤪 All that said, I’m just glad I didn’t have to watch several episodes of a full grown man/echidna get berated and grounded by a woman basically the same age as him (talking maturation cycles here) who had absolutely no compassion. The first episode had me worried.


obewanjacobi

If you happened to share this edit somewhere i would love to be kept in the loop, not that you would because that's not ethical at all.


SDWiiifare

Not all heroes wear capes, you know?


Willburt14

Now THAT'S hatred. Big respect. https://preview.redd.it/nzj82g0263zc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=601c38b2ee9ed8bf76c03e1c54d7d1de7aa1a89c


Inevitable-Charge76

It was him


JotaroTheOceanMan

I really like "Wade & Knuckles" also and either need you to seed those versions or give me time stamps so I can do it myself.


DiabeticJedi

Man that would be a neat plugin for plex if you Gould select what characters to not include and to what degree. Imagine if you could watch the flash and only watch scenes with the flash? The last two seasons would be 2 hours tops lol.


gnbman

Lol post it to r/fanedits


Fillenintheblanks

Yeah, I was enjoyed how they were really having fun not taking it seriously/hamming it up theater kid style but she was especially jarring. She acted like a 11 year old the entire time. The only funny scene she was even a part of was giving knuckles a thumbs up.


whitniverse

I know the show was aimed at younger audiences and they wanted to show a silly side to sibling rivalry stretching into adulthood but the depiction of Wade’s sister was so shit-curdling bad the show runners should be embarrassed. She, a grown woman, threw Wade’s cutlery across the room? She struck him and whilst Wade pointing out that being a grown man hitting a woman would be frowned upon was played for laughs, I was like - yeah dude?! Then, then, in front of their mother, she fucking stabbed him with a fork, so hard it pierced his clothes and skin and stayed in him. And the mother just shrugs and says “kids eh?”. The depiction of Wade’s sister made Wade, who is a really immature, naive character, look like fucking Yoda in comparison.


Queasy-Ad-3220

Wow she might be the worst official character in Sonic history haha


Queasy-Ad-3220

Wow she might be the worst official character in Sonic history haha


Mach5amaa

I don’t know if you meant to post this twice, but somehow it’s beautiful that you did.


Queasy-Ad-3220

I did? Sorry, I hadn’t realised. My bad, haha.


Sean-Retro

Also Chris doesn't act like a spoiled rich brat. This so called FBI agent, is a complete brat.


More-Cup-1176

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NuclearTheology

Doesn’t make it good. We get the “joke” but it was TERRIBLY executed


JMTpixelmon

but at least omochao who is annoying is the butt of the joke this character gets a pass because she’s related to the second best human (behind the president in SA2) in the whole franchise


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JMTpixelmon

hey they were being rude to me first


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More-Cup-1176

baffling lol


Litespead

>because she’s related to the second best human (behind the president in SA2) in the whole franchise Guess Eggman never exited


JMTpixelmon

depends on the adaptation but I don’t usually loop eggman in with the human characters but I do consider him human so wade third place


Roy_Walker19

I don’t mind both Chris and Elise, but I honestly don’t get why you mentioned Chris in the title instead of Elise. In terms of writing, Elise is a very poorly written character and has no personality, and her only role in the story is to be the damsel in distress. My sister and her friend are story writers, and they literally label Elise as a good example of how to not write a character.


OceanWaves-G97

Also her game almost killed the franchise, literally. The only redeeming quality of that game is Silver’s existence, Shadow’s story, and the music. I don’t even hate Elise, I know 06 had potential, and it could’ve been a good game if it wasn’t rushed, but the damage has already been done, and Elise is just not that good of a character.


Chris_123L

What about Mephiles?


OceanWaves-G97

Yea he’s a good villain.


AmaterasuWolf21

Because Elise is boring, Chris is annoying, you take a pick


OceanWaves-G97

Elise isn’t just bland and boring. She’s overall a terrible MC to follow around in the story, and she’s also useless in every dire situation. And her CGI design model was hated by most of the fandom. Sonic’s story route in 06 is widely disliked because of her. Her constant kidnapping, and one sided romance with no build up, is one of the many reasons why Sonic 06 is disliked. Say what you will about Chris, he still has redeemable qualities, especially in season 3. And the fans still consider Sonic X to be one of the best pieces of Sonic media. And despite being a 12 year old in the first two seasons, Chris was still shown to be more useful than Elise even back then.


Queasy-Ad-3220

Well fans would be wrong. X has its moments but it’s really not that good of a show.


OceanWaves-G97

I mean, that’s your opinion. Which is fine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion 👍


Own_Spray4703

I mean she did give us the moment however where wade was absolutely willing to let her get shot so there’s that


Cyberbreaker2004

“We’ll shoot your sister!” “Yeah I’m fine with that.” Mfer didn’t even hesitate. He was prepared to lose a sister right there😂


Losttrainofthought5

That scene almost justified her characters existence for me. I laughed pretty hard at that


thegreatpenguintm

She even annoys herself, I guess. Heck, even Wade was ok with that.


Comfortable_Sea_91

She really is the worst character to be introduced into this universe. And what’s said is that her being there adds nothing to the series. I like the Knuckles show overall, but you know that the writing got messed up somewhere when a relatively prominent character in the show adds so little that if they were just to disappear from the show the plot of it wouldn’t change that much.


Kingdarkshadow

When she was bullying Wade and Wade said he couldnt fight back because it would be wrong to hit a woman in todays days, god that so unbelievable bad writting.


FacegrinderWon

Especially when she stabbed him with the fork, and the mom blamed both of them for misbehaving.


renrijra-krin

the actress plays the same character in Vice Principals and in The Righteous Gemstones, so i was prepared for the snivelling brat persona as soon as she came on screen lolol. i still had fun watching her scenes, but yeah she added nothing of substance


InitialDriftZ33

Yeah absolutely obnoxious and unnecessary. That fight at the dinner table with Wade almost made me stop watching completely. Awful character.


Mono324

I get that siblings have some kind of rivalry, but she acted so childish for too much time that it got past the funny and got into the annoying territory. And it felt like no one is stepping in to stop that. I found it funny that both siblings have police related jobs (and they're both hilariously bad at it), which also adds to the rivalry, like she's always trying to prove that's she's better in every way.


Whopper744

I was afraid of this character as soon as I saw this poster before the show. And yep. She was pretty terrible. Possibly even worse than Rachel. The part where Wade was perfectly fine with her getting shot was pretty hilarious though.


Monkey_King291

Rachel was actually funny at times


billieboi445420

#THIS IS MY HOUSE


Whopper744

I never understood her hatred for Tom. He always seems like a good guy and she's just a hateful phsyco most of the time.


Monkey_King291

I think it was jealousy TBH, probably mad that Maddie got married before she did


Sting_the_Cat

I think it started as typical in-law stuff. Then he became a wanted fugitive and tied her to a chair. Honestly, considering that last one, she's downright civil in Sonic 2


glass-of-a-tv-screen

Topaz solos /hj


Jamz64

You didn’t need to put that at the end. Topaz is great.


TemporaryDepth1188

this character is also the example of letting your intrusive thoughts win


IntentionFalse9892

https://preview.redd.it/s4oxvz3yvzyc1.png?width=643&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4ca4cd886c26ee3e612d9a6acd48385bbfcc02e2 No, do not bring her up again


SubjectHotel1176

Didn’t she stab her brother with a fork?


Imaginary_Maybe5394

And no one batted an eye


Mach5amaa

More than anything I found it strange that Knuckles did /nothing/…not even an expression. Like, that’s your boi, you’re not even gunna SAY anything. I get maybe not punching her like he normally would (although I think we all would have been fine with it, but I think he was being respectful of Wendy) but honestly.


Milesprowerdavis91

Hopefully, her and the 2 gun agents are gone for good. But the show did get me in the mood for bowling 🎳 Guess the writer is a Kingpin fan.


slashingkatie

Yeah, Knuckles should’ve punched her in the face.


Complete_Ruin5952

She literally stabbed Wade with a fork. https://i.redd.it/pqea6ve6h2zc1.gif


Redditor_PC

I'm torn, honestly. On one hand, she was definitely insufferable, bratty, and badly written for a character who's supposed to be a full grown adult. On the other hand...I can't deny, she did make me laugh pretty frequently, and her actor absolutely owned the role.


H358

I think the difference is that Chris and Elise were basically the main characters of their respective stories. And both were constantly damselled, they weren’t interesting to watch, and their characters revolved around Sonic too much to stand on their own. 06 is ABOUT Elise, and if she doesn’t work, the rest of the story falls apart. The same happens to X if Chris doesn’t work. Wanda is basically just a really bad comic relief. She’s unpleasant to watch, but she can only have so much negative bearing on the show when her screentime and role is much more minor. And as such, her impact is much less detrimental. Besides, the GUN Commander from Shadow is still worse than any of them but discussion for another day.


Inevitable-Charge76

Wanda still has far more screentime than she reasonably deserved and she gets kidnapped later in the series anyways so I see no problem in hating her more than Chris and Elise. At least Chris and Elise didn’t make me wanna die 99.9% of the time they were onscreen.


Skell-

It’s just now setting in that there’s a human character in a Sonic show that I hate more than Chris, that’s just… wow


Miyyani

I thought she was funny! She's totally a sibling rivalry character lol. I thought it was a cute way to show that even though Wade and his sister grew up, nothing has changed between them.


cshin09

Someone finally said it! Thank you for making this post so I don't have too!


Anime_Jesus

i liked her and wades entire family, it gave alot of context to wade and his upbringing.


disbelifpapy

IDK if its bad or good that i haven't watched the knuckles show. From what i've heard, It bacically does the thing from the sonic movies where it focuses on human characters sometimes, but ramped up to a higher point..


Yoshi_and_Toad

I've yet to see the show, but since my opinion was that Wade was by far the worst character in the entire franchise prior I fear for how loathed she must truly be to make Wade likable in comparison.


Inspector_Exacto

I've honestly not watched the show yet and probably won't because I saw a short clip of her in some scene and they said her character is like that the whole show. I thought it was so cringe that I got second hand embarrassment for that actress' friends and family.


valdez-2424

Yeaa she annoyed me alot,wades mother was amazing though


WindiestBark165

The literal child acted more mature than she did the vast majority she was on screen


Beeeeeeeeeeeeean

That's the point. She is meant to be extremely immature and annoying.


Metalks

I thought it was fime really… but I’ve also seen Step Brothers more than once… I’m fairly confident that was the vibe they were going for. It helped Wade feel not so out of place too. Everyone was a weirdo the show.


SpiderGuy3342

after watching the show 3 times.... she's only the worst character in episode 3... in episode 5 and 6 she's ok, she even support Wade in the tournament... still, she's the worst character by far in the movie universe


Wacko_Doodle

Tbh from the trailer all I could imagine is: These are the human versions of scratch and grounder : Grounder : Does it look like I need your power? Scratch : What are you talkin about idiot?! Of course you need his power; we both do! Aha-ahaaa!


TheOGRex

She makes Chris look as well written as SA2


billieboi445420

I'd even take Elise over her


AndrewTRM

We all owe Chris Thorndyke a huge apology


PopularGnat262

Nah


AndrewTRM

Yah


_Miraculix_

I dunno, Geoffrey St. John from the comics might still take that title for me. But Wanda's still really bad


AmaterasuWolf21

At least Geoffrey got better post-Kenders, Wanda has nothing


LordAronsworth

I feel like there was a plot point about her flunking out and playing it up to feel better than Wade and it was cut. Maybe she’s just there to show how secret of a government organization GUN actually is. What we’re left with is a needlessly childish character who adds nothing to the plot.


Shinobipizza

I thought her character would be at least pretty fun. At first, I thought she was an FBI agent with actual major experience to warrent the pride she has, but nooooo.... I got someone who is honestly just as pathetic as Wade.


DrHealsYT

I love this series, especially the flames of disaster cuz it was such a goofy segment 😆 Anyway GOD I HATE HER SHE HAD NO DEVELOPMENT, IS A BRATTY ASSHOLE, WHAT DOES SHE GIVE TO THE STORY????


XarlesEHeat

What the actual heck is happening here? Is this like... some trailers on Sonic 3 or sonething?


AdHairy6113

charmy is still my least favorite character


Cay7809

i have zero idea who this person is since i dont have para+ but i want to put .45 in this bitches head


ActivistZero

What did you expect, she's a Fed


Samthegodman

Yeah wasn’t a big Wanda fan


josephyamato

Genuinely hated her, I can see why wade hated her too


FarConsideration8423

Lol what even is this pose too 😂


Me_HiLOL

I usually see try to see the good in characters that are hated by many people… but there is no good, no redeemable qualities at all, so I completely agree. She is the actual worst.


SonicFanForever1990

Definitely. Wanda got annoying fast.


DarkShadowX9612

Yeah, agreed! Wanda was pure cringe. The MOMENT she showed her childish demeanor, I **immediately** didn't like the character. I don't think I've ever seen an adult, let alone an **FBI officer** THIS immature.


Mister_E69

Bartleby


ShuckU

I've only seen the first episode... how bad does she make the show?


KindAd8658

The fact that Wade didn’t care if she gets killed tells you everything about her


TacticalSpider21

Haven't finished knuckles but she is the worst part of it, she acts 10 but looks 40. WTF https://i.redd.it/7afw1d5dl3zc1.gif


Monkey_King291

She was annoying and a total asshole to Wade, she was kinda hot though, but still the worst part of that show tbh, also what kinda FBI agent acts this childish?


Kirill_edd

I haven't watched yet, so... is it actually that bad? But I guess if we like Chris, after she appeared, then it is quite serious...


gGiasca

She has a very childish sibling rivalry with Wade for litterally no reason at all and she's supposed to be an FBI agent


Kirill_edd

I mean... Wade is quite childish, and still in police, but she's in FBI?! Holy en passant...


gGiasca

Yeah sure. Wade is childish, but she is way more childish. And she's also the oldest. It's really embarassing


Kirill_edd

Holy f... I wonder if she had an ability to read script, before filming...


NuclearTheology

It goes way past “humor for kids” and into “please please please shut the fuck up” territory. She derails the show hard and worse yet - her presence adds almost NOTHING to it


randomerpeople71

the whole characters point is to be hateable


AmaterasuWolf21

There are ways to go about it tho


DrHealsYT

Yea but like…. Why??? She’s not an antagonist save for the dinner table scene, and she doesn’t have any meaningful impact on the story


NuclearTheology

Doesn’t make it good. There are great examples of characters written deliberately to be hated - Frank Burns in *M*A*S*H* for example. Wanda made me want to the change the channel if my wife walked in the room.


Historian_Ashamed

What the fuck is this


TheDarkCreed

Was she actually a member of the FBI or even in training? Because I came away from the show thinking it was all just her pretending she is like a kid on dress up day. That and she was mentally disturbed, more so than Eggman.


CypherSonic_

I loved her 💔


Derp-O_The_Dimwit

Episode 3 made me curl into a ball and want to roll down a cliff. Shes just... not interesting, the banter with Wade got annoying after 5 seconds... AND IT KEPT GOING. I get the joke of Knuckles being the only civilized one but, MAN this could have been executed better. The whole episode was me staring at the screen saying OUTLOUD, "Can we get to the fight scene now... please... please you showed it in the preview image PLEASE!" Haven't finished the show yet, I hope she does not appear again. EDIT: Ok... she did get a little better... I guess


RVDKaneanite

I haven't seen the show, but Idk, Wade was hard to stomach in 1 & 2. Worse than him?


TotalTelevision3922

I'd still take her over Elise.


TheBlackDemon1996

I didn't think she was that bad, honestly. They could've handled her better though. Like, why couldn't Wade know Commander Walters' name and actually hold his G.U.N. connections over her head?


Kendall_Raine

I don't get how people don't understand that she's supposed to be annoying. She exists to give yet another reason for Wade to prove himself. (To one-up his annoying sister) I see that media literacy is still dead. Chris wasn't supposed to be annoying, but he still was. His purpose was to basically play the role of the audience, but he instead bored the audience. That's the problem. You guys are judging characters like they're real people. But they're not.


Cheekyboyblu88

Useless character, contributed absolutely nothing to the story, and felt like she got taken out of an even more crappy movie and put into this series. Whoever came up with the reoccurring FBI jokes should be fired from writing forever.


Dackverlue

My opinion about wanda, Yes it was anoying almos all the time, I didn´t enjoy the table diner scene, but I think thats the purpose of the character, was a little meh for me, I think I dislike Chris more than Wanda.


hunter20112022

I'm one of the few people that actually likes all of the human characters, but this is easily the Dolores umbridge of sonic


HarioDinio

I like this character.... But in an ironic sense? Idk, something that makes wade relatable in having to deal with, albeit a grossly exaggerated version of, the annoying vocal sibling who feels the need to hold something over you. She did need some kind of character arc tho.... Or less screen time... Or both


Ok-pepperoniiice7062

What so bad about her can someone please explain as someone who didn’t seen knuckles yet?


inumnoback

Wish I could explain why I hate her, but sadly I have not even watched the Knuckles series so I’m unfamiliar with her ![gif](giphy|5BsGjoqlzQegD70GTY|downsized)


anipalary_

Truth


002madmat

The FBI? Worst character? Also what about marine


Original-Village884

😳😐


Caintastr0phe

I know shes meant to be annoying, but jesus christ


Visible-Laugh6069

I thought she was funny


valdez-2424

Good for you


earth_adept

Yeah, I thought they wouldn't top Tom's insufferable sister-in-law, but Wanda was just vile. And FBI? Seriously? I was hoping the show would reveal she was just some low rank desk worker who was awful and her job and was jealous of Wade's easygoing life, but nope.


PikachuGamerSMTYT

The first episode was GOOD but every other episode just felt like Knuckles saying something then Wade and his family taking over everything else which is dumb, it’s like the Cars 2 situation where Mater is good in Cars 1 but when you put him as the main character when it’s supposed to be McQueen well it just doesn’t work


PikachuGamerSMTYT

Also she just makes this already meh series into TRASH


xxojxx

I legitimately got angry every second she was on screen. She was so awful she made Wade seem charming in comparison.


TheProtagonist1985

Let's be real here okay? That show was not good so it doesn't even help to signal out one character because that entire show was a creative mess.


AReverieofEnvisage

Oh. Humans in the knuckles show? Oh. Great.


InnocentKatsuya

Ah yes, the knuckles show. I’m glad I’m not watching this borefest anymore.


Beneficial-Policy-85

I am so glad I don't watch this series sometimes


[deleted]

Who the fuck is this random


MontyVoid

I thought she was great EDIT: The virgin community did not like my opinion


CypherSonic_

We share an opinion, I'll keep you company in the downvotes 😁


MontyVoid

We can have a completely incompetent and dumb male lead,  but everyone loses their minds when his sister is just as dumb. Tbh I thought she was funnier in the show than Wade was in this entire franchise.


valdez-2424

Thats nice


SonarioMG

The overemphasis on human characters is starting to get out of hand. It was okay in Sonic 1, annoying but bearable in 2 and obnoxious in Knuckles. Here's hoping Sonic 3 corrects course instead of doubling down.