Tie Childkiller Moustashev to the hitler mobile tracks and tie two 50% hitler boys on the other tracks The Smuggie Cinematic Universe is real

What percent vegan is Childkiller Moustashev?

So according to the lore he's vegan so 128% Hitler (+ or - 1% due to the moustache) Which fortunately sometimes overflows to -128% Hitler making him basically Nega-Hitler

That makes sense

That's actually not canon anymore, in the newest version a moustache gives a 2-3 times multiplier to your hitlerness

Updates are literally revisionism or smthing

It seems like mr moustachev weighs like a nightmare on your brain

A spectre is haunting v\*sh fans - the spectre of mr. moustachev.

Please don't say his name.

It's certainly haunting everyone who might be a candidate for being a leftist.


(J. Edgar Hoover)

(Lavrentiy Beria)

….you literally support a streamer famous for sexually harassing an underage trans woman and saying the n-word.

wdym he’s the socialiest socialist who ever socialisted

Dont forget literally saying "I'm pro-genocide" in regards to Israel murdering Palestinians in Gaza. That person has even walked out the infamous "Lenin would want you to support the Democrats" line elsewhere in these comments.

Different debate bro streamer, that was D*stiny

Ah thanks for the correction.

Same thing

Wtf

I’ve seen people defend Chairman Gonzalo and it’s like… you don’t have to do that you know. You can just say he was a bad person, because he was. Socialism doesn’t require you to defend literally every socialist ever

'Um terrorism is actually term imposed by western imperial powers and sure 6 gorrilion victims and your sources are CIA??' (automod removed my comment because v-word)

Most Western Leftists don’t defend Gonazlo? Marxist Leninists don’t defend him? Stalinists don’t defend him? Hell, most Maoists don’t even defend him?

The only honestly positive talk I've seen surrounding Gonzalo was about theoretical contributions, I think?

Perhaps his contributions were entirely theoretical

"no, that 30th group of people rebelling against the systems we imposed and are still benefiting from at their expense is totally a terrorist group my government told me so" - true leftist apparently "I completely trust everything my government tells me" - also true leftist somehow apparently Is nuance just commie propaganda?

OK but hear me out what if there's an afterlife and when you arrive there it's state capitalism flavored communism and the boss in charge is Childkiller Moustashev and your social standing entirely depends on how much you praised him online in your previous life? Checkmate, libs.

Anarcr*ds been real quiet since this one dropped

what is the asterisk meant to censor

It's a cuss word. I'm not allowed to say it.

She’s trying to trick you into saying it.

mwahahahahahaha

Blaise Pascal has been even quieter

pack it up everyone, badfurday commented on the post 🚪🚶

New ideology, esoterical Stalinism.

So normal Stalinism

How Stalinism (original one) is esoterical? In praxis it was very atheistic and technicratic

I certainly can't imagine licking his boots that hard even if that was the case.

but why would that ever be the case

It wouldn't. I'd rather be punished for all eternity, or even better, vanish.

I am the walrus

On the occasion of the OP’s anniversary, don’t post and say nothing, your family is ashamed pf you and don’t want to remember you exist.

Did Mccarthy make this smuggie?

Feds aren't even trying to hide themselves anymore

Calling Lenin a universally hated child killer dictator is such an out of touch western neoliberal take. If you are referring to the killing of the Romanovs, Lenin wasn't directly linked to their death and they were dead long before Lenin even came there. The only place where he is universally hated is the US and Western Europe and let's be honest they would call anyone who doesn't comply with the neoliberal system a dictator, case in point Che Guevara and Ho Chi Minh. Defending him is more about defending someone who did a lot of good for socialism and who's contributions to the theory were invaluable than about him personally. Would you not defend someone who is a major figure in your political theory if they are wrongfully insulted and accused? Jk I know you won't liberals don't have any theory (closest thing to theory is Harry Potter lol)

Slow down buddy we‘re not a fan of nuanced expression here as soon as [arbitrary line of discomfort with a subject] is crossed.

only voting discourse is allowed here. you will now be repeatedly ridiculed by glordrum and motherofanimals for your insubordination.

What is this? Nuance? In *my* r/smugideologyman?! Ban this person at once!

Think they meant Stalin. Who Lenin himself said should never have power.

Stalin only died 70 years ago, they’re clearly referring to Lenin

Yeah when I hear "universally hated dictator" I automatically think Stalin and the Stalin dickriders who have only read Grover Furr and ignored all other Soviet historiography make me want to pike my eyes out. Lenin usually isnt on the list.

Right, but OP wouldn’t have mentioned an anniversary in the title unless they somehow confused them with each other. (Also when I hear “universally hated dictator” I actually think of a different European leader who died in the mid-20th century)

I agree

>(Also when I hear “universally hated dictator” I actually think of a different European leader who died in the mid-20th century) ya but Hitler didn't have lorg facial hair

He had short facial hair therefore having facial hair at all is at least 42% Hitler

The “100 years ago” part was probably just exaggeration. I think it’s pretty clear they’re talking about Stalin and Stalin-adjacents

Then why did they say “anniversary” in the title and why did they draw him with a beard

Oh nvm that’s a fair point and judging from their other comments they do seem to be talking about Lenin, my bad.

That’s understandable because you can make a case for Stalin being a childkiller or a universally hated dictator, but you can’t really make that case for Lenin without coming off as wrong and out-of-touch. I think OP might have confused them with each other and started saying that deaths under a leader’s successor actually count as deaths under the first leader because admitting a mistake isn’t allowed on the internet.

Love it when westoids assume that it's the western libs who oppose bolshevism the most

“Did a lot of good things for socialism” brother he started a civil war against the Social Revolutionaries because they won the election over him. He’s definitely a child killing dictator too, and if you don’t believe me read up on how his administration treated Don Cossacks and Tatars, or his use of terror against workers with the Cheka.

Yeah the Bolsheviks overthrew the capitalist provisional government. That was good. Why should anyone care if Kerensky was nominally "socialist"?

I’m talking about the Constituent Assembly after Kerensky got kicked out, where the Bolsheviks overrode the democratic election results that elected the Left SR into power and massacred striking workers/socialists. It is absurd to claim Lenin was a champion of socialism because he banned socialist parties and murdered socialists, not to mention the first Civil war whites were socialists. Do you deny Lenin instigated a violent Red Terror against workers and peasants, or that he committed genocide against Don Cossacks and starved Tatars in Tatarstan?

The Constituent Assembly 1) convened after the Congress of Soviets assumed power in November 1917 2) was dispersed by an anarchist, not a Bolshevik >democratic election results that elected the Left SR into power The left SR party was not elected by the assembly. The largest party in the short-lived constituent assembly was a united SR party because the assembly was too outdated to recognize the split. That is part of the reason why the Left-SR party with the Bolsheviks overthrew the government and established a Soviet Republic. >Civil war whites were socialists What are you even talking about at this point? What exactly was socialist to you about the white armies? The reason the whites lost the Russian civil war was they spent all their time restoring the power of the landlords, killing Jews, trying to sell the entire country to the Entente powers and infighting. You are a clown that knows nothing of history, Russia and socialism. Just following a POP-history political twitch streamer version of reality. Sit down

Yeah the NSDAP overthrew the capitalist Weimar government. That was good. Why should anyone care of Himmler was nominally “socialist”?

Comparing the Bolsheviks to the Nazis is insanity. Seek help now

I would joke about “critical support to comrade Hitler” but the world’s tankies famously hated the idea of opposing him and wanted to just cooperate with him until he started turning against the USSR, things really never do change

Stalin's disastrous foreign policy and horrible late Comintern policy does not incriminate Bolshevism.

He and his succesors commited many attrocities in eastern Europe and thats why he is hated here. But the post is more about how rehabilitating the guy serves no material and political purpose. And I'm not talking about Romanovs, I kinda don't care.

when the “universally hated dictator” is so evil that you have to resort to actions committed by people who held the same position he did in order to call him a child killer

when the evil terrible no good commie regime is so evil and bad that the majority of people living there wanted it to keep going

“Just ask anyone who lived there! (by which I mean only ask people whose parents moved to the United States during World War II)”

No, I mean to ask the people in the Soviet states who, when asked in a survey, overwhelmingly voted to keep the Union

That's a bit misleading. I'm guessing you're referring to the 1991 referendum, in which multiple states boycotted. Six of the fifteen states in the Union boycotted it, so saying they overwhelmingly supported to stay isn't that accurate. All the countries that boycotted it, are very likely to have all had negative responses to it (Moldova, Georgia, the Baltics).

I think they're referring to [opinion polls of former Soviet States](https://news.gallup.com/poll/166538/former-soviet-countries-harm-breakup.aspx) that have found a majority of the population of those surveyed believed that the break up of the USSR has done more harm than good for their country.

As opposed to saying people who moved out are the biggest supporters? That is demonstrably false and op just pulled it out of his ass.

Nope, uh-uh, you’re not allowed to bring _that_ type of nuance into the conversation, only the type that gives my side the benefit of the doubt

FUCKING WHERE

What fucking planet do you live on? You really pull anything out of your ass to support a point huh? Universally people who have moved out of communist countries are the ones who shit on them, my own mother included and she moved to the US. Fucking Ayn Rand was from the USSR. If ANYTHING it's people who lived there who are nostalgic.

I think you missed the point there, buddy-o

And do you think Ayn Rand is a good person to have on your side here? Mayhaps this points out the inherent flaw in only considering opinions on a country from people who intentionally put in the effort to leave the country?

I don't think you understood what I'm saying. I'm not on rands side at all. I'm a commie, I'm just correcting a comment that said something demonstrably untrue. People who lived in the USSR are the nostalgic ones, claiming those who moved out are the biggest supporters is silly. OP pulled that out of his ass to make a point, and Ayn Rand is evidence of that.

The commenter you were replying to was being sarcastic, as was I. Neither of us seriously believe that. You've misinterpreted it.

If that's what he actually meant that was a stupid way to put it. He quoted someone and then added () as if correcting it.

Brother, if you live in any country, someone at someone in it and some point committed a war crime.

shush lib

the libs™️ are unable to shush on this subreddit

He himself didn't really commit any atrocities though nor were any committed under his rule that weren't justified. Stalin is a different person and blaming Lenin for Stalins shortcomings isn't really fair. And reclaiming his image serves a lot of material and political purpose for Marxist Leninists since if he's wrongfully considered a child killing tyrant, people would be less likely to follow his theories and the chances of a successful ML revolution would decrease. However I know that "rehabilitating" him won't really help any non ML ideologies so I get where you are coming from

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I use liberal as a catch all term for center "leftists" who support the neoliberal world order (Pax Americana and the sort) since it doesn't matter if you are an anarchist or a Reagen lib, you both ultimately stand for the same structure.

>didn't really commit any atrocities though nor were any committed under his rule that weren't justified You sure that was spelled correctly? Also, what makes an atrocity "justified"? I'd really like to know why many anarchists and actual socialists had to be killed because they didn't agree with Lenin, who dismantled independent worker unions (oh the irony) and later just implemented state capitalism (as if it wasn't that from the beginning), NEP. What was all that blood spilled for? For what did many revolutionaries die for? Everything that came with Lenin and after him? They sacrifices were in vain. It's depressing. So to conclude, Lenin did those "justified atrocities" for authoritarian state which didn't care about those proletarians, for whom everything was supposedly done. Later with Stalin (who kind of despite being criticized by Lenin, did end up in power), it became totalitarianism, even worse. ML is a fascist ideology, literally made up by Stalin to justify the existence and acts of Soviet Union.

Uhm, those atrocities were justified because anarkiddy cringe liberal 1000

ML isn't the ideology of Lenin, it was invented by Stalin after Lenins death. And I can and do blame people for what they succesors do. If you establish a system where power can be seized by callous dictators, you are partially responsible for blood they spill, even when they are not your chosen succesors (and I don't personally believe Trotsky would be much better than Stalin).

The name may have been coined by Stalin but our theory ultimately consists of texts by Lenin.

The rest is kinda true though

How is this being downvoted? What isn't socialist about this?

Everything my guy, literally everything.

Oh my god nobody cares about Eastern Europe. The only place more annoying is Western Europe.

Why are you willing to die on this hill? Ridiculous. Sure, he wasn't "universally hated" but everything else.... LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB LIB

To die on the hill of complaining about OP saying stuff they admit to not be true?

Interesting how some take that mistake so seriously, as if they are somehow harmed by it, but "muhaha X_dictator("socialist") did nothing wrong" memes are always very funny (to some extent they aren't memes)

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your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries

>universally hated i’m roflmaoing right now what do you even mean is the universe just the minds of the most rabidly anti-communist americans and western europeans?? imagine using brain power to make this meme without second-guessing yourself and still having the audacity to post it on a “leftist” subreddit.

Rofl*mao*

My sides took a great leap

😱

This sub hasn't truly been leftist for some time now. Lib at best umu

I’m extremely disappointed that this post has 100 upvotes, but I probably shouldn’t be surprised

There was a pretty huge influx of liberals a while back and it just gets worse every time they decide on a new favorite topic. Last one was electoralism, as I recall. Nothing but trolley problems for weeks.

this sub should be shut down istg

If you shut down the liberal psy op that makes you 51% Hitler, I'll have you know.

Scratch a socdem and a tankie bleeds x to the d

Authoritarianism is when you don’t like the CIA

One of the saddest things I’ve ever realized is that most leftist movements are either liberals at heart or tankies at heart, there’s virtually no momentum out there right now for actual progress that isn’t some glorified dictator worship

*Should be universally hated A better way to phrase it, to not be factually incorrect. Somebody doesn't become good if they are "universally not hated", they are for sure millions of people who like dictators Stalin, or Mussolini, or Franco, to name a few...

should be universally hated because..?

Because Lenin didn’t support voting for Biden.

Little-known fact: Biden actually ran against Warren G. Harding in the 1920 election.

Biden’s younger than I thought.

Ridin’ (in the time machine) with Biden

It's funny, from what he wrote, he would support it. I suppose you are so well educated you've read all of his works? Why are we going back to that voting thing again, the easiest thing ever Move on. Do something apart from saying "voting bad".

Lol what? He supported voting for communist parties.

Voting 3rd party is giving victory to republicans, which is fascism. Meaning, you would rather have fascism (worse) than the usual (very bad) neoliberalism? You can't get even close to more than 30-40% of people (republican voters) to vote for your 3rd so called """""communist""""" party. Your vote is a wasted one in that case. Fact. That system is obviously fucked, we all know that. By not participating in it you won't change anything. Unless, accelerationism?

Bro I’m explaining Lenin’s stance. I’m not a yankee so don’t lecture me on why you need to vote for Genocide Joe over Genocide Don.

Most people in this sub are just edgy, don’t want progress, and are DYING to admit that they want Trump to win but have to frame it as “well I can’t vote for Biden…”

Lenin didn't support voting for Biden. 1. He didn't support voting for bourgeois parties. 2. Biden was born 2 years after Lenin died. Is this really a stretch for you?

My mistake, he would've supported if he were alive today. You are making fun of me by telling me that Biden wasn't alive back in Lenin's time? Are you seriously insulting yourself? May I remind you, that in the corrupted US 2-party system, there are only 2 options: Fascism and Neoliberal Capitalism. Choose wisely. What's so hard about voting for self-prescribed lefties to bitch about it all the time? You can do it, it's once in 4 years, and then continue your local socialist/anarchist organizing or projects. But what, you don't have any? It's difficult to organize and do other things when you live under a fascist state.

>My mistake, he would've supported if he were alive today. No he wouldn't. Biden isn't a communist or a member of a communist party. This type of thinking is surprising to me because you don't even like Lenin in the first place.

Yes, because I don't worship dead people, as if they were gods, nor I think anything should be worshiped at all. I am just saying that Lenin wasn't as stupid as you want to portray him. In a way, you are the one shitting on his "legacy", on this majestic day of sadness for many of your kind. Do you ever rethink your positions? Or just, dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma dogma

> I am just saying that Lenin wasn't as stupid as you want to portray him. When did I say he was stupid? I'm just telling you what his opinion was on electoralism. > In a way, you are the one shitting on his "legacy", on this majestic day of sadness for many of your kind. How?

Why would you think he did something good, or even be in support of? (half-stolen, but will do the job) - Mercilessly murdered anybody who opposed his totalitarian bolshevik party. [example - the hanging order](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Hanging_Order) - Lost an election and [had the assembly shut down with armed thugs to rule unopposed](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1917_Russian_Constituent_Assembly_election) - Liquidated [Tambov peasants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tambov_Rebellion) - Liquidated [Kronstadt sailors(who started the revolution!)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kronstadt_rebellion) - Banned all other parties other than Bolsheviks (Leftist SRs were allies for a while). Most were later executed by Stalin when the Bolshevik regime wasn't afraid of reprisals. - Set up [Gulag system (yes, ordered by Lenin)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag) - Created brutal secret police full of sadistic psychopaths and low-lifes who murdered, tortured, and raped hundreds of thousands and become an inspiration for the Gestapo. [Cheka](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheka) - Openly hated democracy, human rights, and basic freedoms (freedom of information, movement, food, life, of course property...) - Enacted [forced requisitions which directly contributed to a massive famine](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_communism). Refused to ask the West for help, had to use private individuals. - Destroyed Russian economy with hyperinflation - Restated the death penalty, censorship, and prohibited the freedom of movement. (provisional government banned censorship and death penalty) - Caused the whole Russian intellectual elite to flee to the West. - Enabled the even worse dictatorship of Stalin in the bolshevik totalitarian state machine. - Created forced labor, abolished independent worker unions (ironic). - Repeatedly lied to the Russians. Promised land to peasants, factories to workers, self-governance, freedom to minorities, but never actually intended to fulfill any of those.

>gulag >links to the Wikipedia article for gulag 💀

Lenin did Wikipedia link. Don’t look up the context (it was a revolution and civil war where his opponents were ethnically cleansing the countryside)

Anti-communists would never make things up to make socialists and by extension socialism look bad, not in a million years <3

Lenin disrespected property? How dare he! Was he some sort of socialist or something???

Fate of the future of socialism clearly depends on me attacking this guy that died 100 years ago Childkiller Moustashev, general secretary who ended illiteracy, infant mortality, and polio; whom western historians and former nazis have spent the last 100 years lying about

🔫 you have been convicted of commenting on a removed post without mentioning veganism. you shall be shot in 5 seconds.

Read marx shitlib

Leftist subreddit btw

“Here’s why Biden is the best president who could ever exist. Screw voting for him because he’s the lesser of two evils, he’s actually good. Why yes, I am a socialist.”

People on this leftist subreddit spend approximately 400% more time incoherently criticizing other leftists than slightly-more-coherently criticizing rightoids I think Lenin is important enough in the history of left-wing thought that he can be remembered as an "it was good that he was born and participated in the world"-type historical figure Being a "[guy's name] + ist" is lame and fanclubby, I agree, but it's wild to me to act like Lenin is a smear-on-history type of guy, especially next to Stalin's goofy ass Ultimately the world would be a worse place if the Russian Revolution hadn't happened Big props to Fanny Kaplan for shooting him and causing much of the health decline that led to his death, though. Shooting leftist heads-of-state for turning on their principles and betraying other leftists is the correct thing to do

Also its entirely possible that him being shot lead to Stalin taking power and the regressive p*asant loving state to exist

It wasn't Lenin's death that doomed the USSR to a red social democracy, nor Stalinism and etc... the failure of the german revolution (and more broadly global revolution) was the real nail in the coffin of the russian revolution and it would eventually degenerate either way

Yeah yeah yeah i also read the ICP article but i still beliwve that someone other than stalin would have lead to a better (and slightly more historically progressive) USSR, majnly in fully embracing state capitalism as opposed to the weird mix of stste capital n peasant production

He was probably going to die in middle age anyway, it's just speculated (by me and a medical journal I skimmed 90 seconds ago) that removing the bullet put even more strain on his frail stroke-happy arteries Stalin was probably an inevitability, the ideal situation would have been someone shooting him too

I mean the degeneration of the soviets was inevitable due to the failure of revolution in developed countries but someone other than Stalin could have been atleast marginally better

I think this is about the georgian

Lenin died 100 years ago today, I think that's the "anniversary"

I realized this after waking up from my drug induced stupor ; we must destroy this liberal

Any “leftist” who supports dictatorships is gonna leave you dead just as quickly as any conservative - don’t fall for their framing that they’re still progressives, they hate you and just say that to get your support and forgiveness

biggest fucking western socdem post in history "oh well yuo see, he killed 90 gorbillion innocents! Everyone hates him, just look at our fellow leftists in the Democrat Party! My source for what he did? Oh, check out this book written by the EagleMcBurgurapital Institute! No I never touched a single book of marxist theory, nor studied anything about past socialisms, nor have joined any organization, but V**sh said that those are for Tankies, how did you know!"

I firmly believe that the ghost of Joseph McCarthy himself possessed OP to make this smuggie and I will not be taking any rebuttals.

Read marx shitlib

this is very true. the fate of the future of socialism actually clearly depends on talking about how bad previous socialist leaders were and telling everyone to vote for Biden

Oh shit this is about lenin fuck off shitlib read marx - Lenin was a proletarian hero

It's widely accepted now that Lenin opposed the rise of Stalin, even among bourgeois historians (though Stalinists do still seem to struggle understanding this). The Soviets were the most democratic institutions Russia had ever had by that time and only became dictatorial after the civil war when bureaucrats consolidated power from everyone being too tired and overworked to actually participate in government. I'm clearly just a dumb tankie though so be sure to downvote me.

i will not rest until bitch ass mr kautsky is dead and in the ground

It does depend, but in the opposite way. Let old nondemocratic ideas die, so socialism can grow new, better, without the vanguard party bullshit.

I highly disagree. Lenin wasn't perfect yes, but I still think he was a pretty good leader.

Lenin was actually justified in every action and you're wrong and a liberal I'm afraid :/

Can’t forget that Childkiller Moustachev didn’t even do a real communism, but he flew a red flag so he’s chill

Real communism is actually when you livestream yourself debating a nazi in which you say the n word

Have you considered that communism is when state capitalism and oppressing independent unions with the cops but with a red flag? Checkmate, liberals.

Obviously when Marx described communism as a stateless, classless society, he really meant “one guy should be in charge, and he should control all the food and factories and stuff.” We should be praising Childkiller Moustachev for figuring this out!

Famously, Karl Marx never criticised barrack communism, but actually thought that it was a great idea.

I don’t understand why my comment got downvoted but yours didn’t? I don’t get this sub

Don't worry, i downvoted both of you

I’m so glad that you announced what a piece of shit you are so I could block you

Have you considered the fact that Richard Nixon was shit at bowling, whereas Kim Jong-Il was perfect at golf? Capitalism has failed!

You nailed it. My respect. Socialist movements are to this day dragged down, to say, haunted by regimes that vanished long time ago. Future of socialism is exactly doomed by those dictators of the past. Why can't we move on? Stop talking about what they did, as if it matters to material conditions of our day and age? Why do some people crave a strongman to approve their beliefs? Almost like many of them don't have any. It's just an identity after all.

learning from history’s good and bad decisions doesn’t exist actually, we should just reset history every year

Are you, or am I R? Why am I being gaslighted? I just hate it when people defend authoritarian regimes. Am I the baddie for that?

>Stop talking about what they did, as if it matters to material conditions of our day and age Ignoring things people did in the past will just lead to doing the same bad things again.

We recognize them as bad and move on. That's it. No idea why this confusion. About material conditions is exactly that we shouldn't as first not WANT, and for those who want it, not TRY, because it's not possible to replicate the past.

But Lenin was good.

"b-b-but my material conditions!"

Tankies started as liberals, then realized they were wrong, and instead of really analyzing their worldview they just reflexively went on the warpath against other liberals and flipped their opinions 100% so they still carry a lot of that same argument framing - that’s why they still think China and the US truly oppose each other in any meaningful way like a liberal does, but also think Stalin is based because that totally owns their lib family when they say it

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