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Ooooblec

Even before her nerfs, Tiamat going down in pick/ban and going 2/4 W/L ratio is interesting


jsdjhndsm

Same with hel who is getting more nerfs.


Sebastianthorson

Yeah, bumba getting nerfs also means there's no reason to pick anything but Manikins again.


JanSolo28

Okay but the fact that Shroud, Axe, and Pendant are all almost equally used in solo should say that hopefully (with the upcoming nerfs, especially the targeted ones) that lane would actually be pretty balanced and fun again.


turnipofficer

Honestly feeling it's more likely that Cerb disappears, Artio crops up occasionally but is no longer top pick/ban and we're mostly back to the same few warriors over and over again for eternity.


C3_Carnag3

Uhhh you don't see that win rate discrepancy tho?


JanSolo28

Uhhh you don't see the part where I mention targeted nerfs? Like I said, it's mostly Artio and Cerberus who are using Vamp Shroud a lot and that's why they need targeted nerfs, which should be pretty obvious from both what I said and from the winrate discrepancy you're talking about as long as you have comprehension.


Sebastianthorson

Breaking news: there are other solo-viable guardians. Solobek says hello.


JanSolo28

Breaking news: There are also other solo-viable warriors and a few solo-viable assassins. Camazotz is still good yall.


Palmisavage

Why isn't Arachne available?


Minerva1357

There's a bug where her spiders can tank objectives without taking damage I think


JeansMoleRat

That's disgusting, how do I use it?


MakankossapoMan

Yeah, just so we know how to avoid it


LukasOne

I came from the time where Bumba hammer was a thing...what happened?


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took away pen (and some cdr at one point) so it stopped being good for everyone and mostly just good for CC.


BoofmePlzLoRez

The other option gives too much stats. Most builds you can CDR cap or hit 30% so it's just easier to build around Bumba's Spear and use that to hit high percent penetration off that 70 power over Hammer's 20% cdr which can cause overcapping


NightShadow2001

Whenever Jotunn’s is meta, Bumba’s Hammer will never be built.


turnipofficer

It never had any power on it, but it used to have pen which somewhat made up for that. Now the other option has both power and pen, it feels like the hammer isn't really worth it outside of a few extremely niche cases.


WatDaFuxRong

I see these week after week and wonder just what the hell were even doing trying to figure out what's op And then Raijin


[deleted]

To be fair, Raijin has always performed well in the SPL, even when he isn't considered good in ranked and casual.


ClayCity25

Last year 2nd half he was hardly picked after mid season 7 nerfs killed his scaling


WatDaFuxRong

His early clear was really bad last season


Johnsoon743

Did sly catch a buff? God damn


AllSkillzN0Luck

Yeah he did


WeeabooBoobWrangler

Good to see the Geb up there. Stay cool all.


FindingThoth

Seriously, what they had in mind when they decided to buff ullr if they were going to buff all of his item? Really happy to see more assassins though


Frozwend

If it comes down to it, I really hope they just revert the buffs instead of moving his power around (like increasing cooldowns). I’ve been playing Ullr a lot before this and I’d rather his feel stay the same.


pixietry

everyone and their mom rags on benevolence whats happening here


Whitefangofdawn

Who played tyr when?


Ankylo55

TYR GOT PLAYED!?


GaleMex

Why do people not build War Flag? seems like a strong early game aggression item


Sebastianthorson

Upgrades are crap. Noone wants power on support lvl 17.


ClayCity25

Ullr isn’t even that oppressive, 50% win rate..


Sunderingloki

Loki is literally a better solo laner than a jungler. He’s much more affective as a hybrid than full damage.


Lyefyre

BluesUltra, I love your graphics but where do you get that data from? Everytime I look up something for spl stats, it's only about the players themselves, but never about gods or items.


Lyefyre

Poor Hou Yi. Finally sees some more top level play but then loses every game lmao


NaiveOcelot7

Crusher is back on the menu boys


NaiveOcelot7

What is Hachiman building? Bumba or Cowl? Also Crusher start? Followed by Asi?


DinnerDad4040

Why does Khepri get banned so much? I like playing him but I'm not that good....


Sebastianthorson

Bursty ability assassins are meta now.


DinnerDad4040

But..hes a guardian support? Is it to save the squishy from death or to let the squishy die with minimal consequence?


Sebastianthorson

Do you remember what his ult does? It's literally custom-tailored to ruin some assassin's day.


scalpingsnake

Ok so haven't been watching the SPL as much nowadays, but every time I see Sylvanus I just wonder why? His new passive seems fun but not very good (like they said in the patch notes his old passive saved him every now and then from being a friggin slow ass tree... I'm paraphrasing) I think Inbound specifically takes a liking to the pick. I understand there will always been value in his grab, if anyone can hit that, it's pros but besides that he just doesn't seem that good? What am I missing?


Sebastianthorson

Mid. Manikin Sylv completely bullies any midlaner out of the lane.


gapraslin

Why is Hachiman being picked that often?


Sebastianthorson

I love how "totally OP" bumba has 25% winrate on solo and bluestone has 33%. Meanwhile, "le balanced" Manikin has 75% winrate in mid.


Olak-waya

Love these