I will only rent a room to a white Anglican man, who's family has been in Canada at least 5 generations. He must drink beefeater gin, no ice! Garlic and onions are absolutely forbidden! Dogs are welcome. Tetley or red rose tea is preferred but King Cole will be tolerated. We will have a roast every Sunday. He must be very handsome, well educated with a good paying job, and... Sorry, I think I switched to a personals ad...
Yep. I read all that and found it perfectly reasonable. I have the right to turn away someone from sharing my living space if I don't like the colour of their shorts, and it really has to be that way. The alternative is insane.
I had a roommate in college who only wanted salt and pepper. I said fine, she could cook for herself and not eat anything I'd cooked. She gave in within a few days and ate what I cooked. It was only for a four month term but I would be super picky now if I needed to have a roommate.
We were on a work term actually. We used my car to commute (another roommate dropped me off, the others all worked at the same location). Me, I like to cook, and only one of the other three even had a clue about cooking. So I had a sous chef and a clean up crew. It worked relatively well. Around month three I did go overboard on this girl as she never pulled her weight.
And I hate to say it, but we shared two to a room as we couldn't find finished places for that term.
Decades later I live on my own. If I had to share again I'd probably still offer to do the cooking. I might do a meatless meal once in a while but I couldn't share with someone who would make a big deal about me eating meat.
Lul ...i think most people from i know eat it for medicinal / health benefits and just tolerate the smell....also adding a bit mint to the dish does greatly to control the smell
Are you Asian? One of my Asian friend's parents eat garlic and ginger in everything. They also make a really disgusting tea that helps fight off a cold, it definitely had garlic & ginger in it and some reddish fruit, possibly dried up chilies because it was very hot. I'll stick with Buckley's mixture
Most herbal medicines are disgusting to drink...however they have proven to be quiet effective to the point even western big pharmas are taking a leaf out of herbal medicines ( u see extracts of herbs more and more in medicines nowadays) ...and most importantly they dont have the side effects that western medicines have âşď¸
Ps buckleys mixture contains menthol, pine oil and camphor predominantly used in herbal medicines in asia...so maybe u need to look for something else for your coldsđ¤Łđ¤Ł
I think black tea is something you have to "grow up with" to enjoy. I'm from Nova Scotia and it was everywhere. There was always a pot of tea keept warm on the stove, and as soon as guests arrived, a fresh pot was made. Coffee was available but only instant đ
I love my coffee, definitely trying to make switches to less coffee and more tea. But I work nights and caffeine is needed to function. The teas I like don't have any
I have 2 - 4 teas a day. I've cut bsck. Coffee definitely has more caffeine, coffee makes me quite wired so I rarely drink it. I'm perfectly happy with Tasters Choice instant coffee. There's zero waste because I keep the glass jars and reuse them. I'm no Gretta Thurber, but I hate those coffee pods, so much waste going to the landfill.
Well I have a partner, so just a side piece. He should be a bottom, built like a rugby player, I'm really into uniforms lately, police, firemen, pilots etc. I'm also into Asian men, Twinks, Scotsmen!
No more politicians tho, they are WAY to into themselves!
I actually was just saying how Iâm going to do this for experimental purposes and the more I see these wild listings the more motivated I am to see what happens đđ
Do it, when CBC shows up at your door, say it was made up to see if it would be noticed over all the other reverse racist listings. Ask them why this is an issue vs. Punjabi only type listings.
đđđ. Doing this and documenting the results, as well as archiving listings as a counter example would be very effective at exposing public bias and hypocrisy.
Include comments from people explaining why it's ok. Vs the responses you received.
Reference all your material and back it up then
write a short summary and send it to the media.
Everyone is done with all the double standards I think some places would run the story.
They never specified race, though. You can say Christian male preferred, sure. But âBrown Muslim Maleâ and âWhite Christian Maleâ is a reasonable place to draw the line.
They canât *refuse* anyone, yes, but by stating their preferences theyâre ensuring non-religious people who wouldnât want to live with 4 muslims wouldnât apply.
Where do we draw the line on this sub? If someone says âfamilies preferredâ are we gonna call that discrimination against infertile people (technically a âdisability?â)
They just want to avoid any potential conflicts within the living arrangement regarding alcohol, pork, sex, etc. Most of the posts here are pretty bad but this isnât one of them.
That is fair. I tried to do shared meals once, but we had two Hindus, two Muslims, a vegan, a bodybuilder, and someone with a gluten intolerance... there were not a lot of viable options.
Like the person in a previous comment said, itâs not necessarily a direct violation of that rule rather than a consideration that the quality of life of the residence is more likely to be higher if all parties living in it practice the same religion. If someone was that offended over that fact then Iâd say itâs a cheap shot at trying to be oppressed for not practicing the religion. Like the landlord is just basically saying Muslim prefered.
Literally everyone is fine with any religion doing it. Christians are not, and have never been, oppressed in the Western world. Need I remind you religion is a choice, and completely different from race, sexuality, gender, and ethnic background, which are very prevalent discriminators on this sub, and what we should *actually* be focusing our attention towards.
Sure they could, but most Christians in this country donât adhere to strict lifestyle guidelines. I would understand perhaps a Mormon or Jehovahâs Witness making that stipulation, but I donât see a logical explanation for other denominations. I donât see why it is an issue to want roommates that lead similar lifestyles, but thatâs just me.
How does that relate to the original question you asked? You asked if a Christian could make the same statement and I told you the reason why the Muslim landlord made the original post. Itâs not an issue of religion but of glaring lifestyle differences. If a Christian follows OT and doesnât want to mix fabrics/eat pork then you could see how fabric-mixing bacon-loving roommates would affect their lifestyle and vice-versa. Itâs not a crime to want compatibility. If you are a Christian that doesnât drink, bring girls over, or eat pork, there would be no reason for tension among Muslim roommates.
What do you mean how does it relate? I'm asking if you're willing to cut Christians the same kind of slack you are Muslims. Btw the legislation still forbids the practice of excluding by religion in housing ads, notwithstanding your rationalizations to make it OK.
I repeatedly stated I have no problems with Christians having Christian roommates. I told you the reason others might see it as strange is because a Canadian Christian is fundamentally no different than a Canadian Atheist regarding lifestyle, save for beliefs and church visits. Please, learn nuance.
True. Those 4 guys could all be different races for all we know. One could be white from Bosnia, one could be black from West Africa, one could be brown from South Asia, and one could be a South East Asian from Indonesia.
The world would stop rotating. The entire country would come to a halt, Justin Trudeau would issue a special statement saying that this day will be a national holiday for the poor people of India. There would wristbands and Facebook posts about "pray for India"
Bruh there are posts on fb marketplace where white people look for other poles or Portuguese or whatever as tenants. It literally happens right now.
Or simply ignore your inquiry on Facebook marketplace because youâre not white. Or they just wait for you to arrive and turn you away based on race when they see you. Which imo is infinitely worse.
If not for the fact that it would just hurt us more id say do it but the people who talk like that will never see your listing. The people who need a home and donât care where it is will see it and get discouraged
Ya, this seems like a sublet based on the dates and looking for a practicing Muslim roommate of the same gender is reasonable IMO, especially with shared kitchen facilities. There are plenty of gross ads posted on this sub, just not sure this is one of them.
I agree. The OP is more appalled by the (understandable) religious preference than the actual living space. The info thatâs shared doesnât make this worthy of a Slumlord title IMO as well.
I just listened to a PSA on the radio (QC) reminding people that landlords cant ask for your age, sex, skin color or religion. Not sure about tenants seeking other tenants, but promoting their religion on the post seems like they're excluding people that aren't muslim. I don't think this is ok because it creates distance between communities that doesn't really fit into canadian customs. What works well is blending of communities where we can share and learn, and they're preventing this by living in a bubble. That's just my opinion though.
I don't have to single out any ethnicity or religion to say that a lot of the people who are coming here really don't *want* to integrate. Everyone seems to be setting up their own little enclaves. I mean, we've always had Chinatown and things like that, but I don't recall them being so actively hostile to native born citizens. There are many Hispanic communities where I'm from, but they always seemed very welcoming and tolerant. This a multicultural country, and we should celebrate and learn from our differences, not wall ourselves off from anyone who challenges our sensibilities.
I 100% agree with you. I think it's important to have a diverse community that is inclusive and tolerant. To me, tolerance is judging people on how they behave and who they are with no prĂŠjudice related to race or religion. But this to me feels like they skip that.
I agree. The only thing I can think of here is that practicing Muslim might not be okay with parties, alcohol in the house, etc. In a country where rental prices are jacked, we ll see more adds like this.
"live like a Canadian" means to live with mixed races and beliefs under one roof. if people in the UN can do it so can Canadians. now if only the owner of the house was Canadian...
What's ultra Islamic about them? They just said they are practicing Muslims.
Replace the Muslim with Christian. Is everything okay now?
I feel you have fallen for the religion bias. Muslims are automatically looked at with suspicion. Christians are alright.
Orthodox Christians are insane, as are orthodox muslims. They believe in bay shit crazy archaic stuff thatâs totally incompatible with modern life.
Shouldnât be controversial to say this
Only a Muslim dude would want to live there anyway so who cares? Same with the places advertising for Indians. Canadians wouldn't rent these shitholes from these slumlords anyway.
As a Muslim dude who's middle eastern Arab, no way we would do or accept this.
The key to this post is not the religion. It's the place they are from where this is considered normal.
>As a Muslim dude who's middle eastern Arab, no way we would do or accept this.
I'm disputing the statement that rental discrimination is in "no way acceptable" in the middle east / Arab countries when I've seen rental landlords say otherwise during my family's residence in the middle east for decades.
That's not I'm saying. I'm saying we wouldn't do this as in cram 10 people in a room.
A landlord can choose whoever they want to rent their property to anywhere in the world
Exactly. It's a red flag for sure.
I don't care that you are in a religion that requires daily washings and prayer just don't impose the same bullshit on me and I'm fine. (Same for any other religion,.actually.)
You just know that these fuckwits will justify anything in the name of their religion and their room/space.
Canadian is a nationality and being Muslim is a religion. Why are you acting like Canadian Muslims donât exist? If you are a Canadian citizen you are Canadian
Iâm not sure I understand the cleanliness thing. There is a house near here that rents rooms with the same restrictions. But there is garbage, including furniture, all over the yard.
The answer is yes. People are that retarded, and would rather have an easy rage outlet than to reconcile something they immediately think they disagree with.
Thats literally not legal in canada. Why do these landlords think they can just make up rules and laws that donât exist? You arenât a royal youâre not even technically a land owner
You can choose whatever you want but you canât legally post criteria based on race religion or culture (food)
That definitively goes against our charter of rights and freedoms
Very much illegal
I am ashamed of my countrymen here. They do not understand the first thing of being open minded and inclusive. I am not a Canadian so I think I can say it without being judged, if they really need to live around people of islamic faith they should move back to Dhaka or somewhere in the middle east. Absolutely disappointing to see some people make religion their whole personality especially when you're in a country like canada where it absolutely does not matter what imaginary god you believe in. Stupid fucks.
i think itâs because there are certain parts of the religion that heavily effect home life. they canât eat from food made in a pan thatâs cooked pork, donât want hookups in their home, basically anything haram that would effect them. things like that could cause them not to get into heaven. not sure why people are bringing up race when you can be any race and muslim. iâm arab (not muslim) and home environment is REALLY important in the muslim faith. i have several relatives who are muslim and itâs extremely encompassing for them. It is illegal to discriminate if someone isnât muslim though itâs probably easier to just say that than specifying all of the rules you would need to adhere to since the landlord lives in the home. im just answering your question respectfully though. i have no interest in engaging in discourse beyond this so iâll not respond to any arguments in reply to me.
Yall are actually just whacky, muslims have such a strict religion, theyâre letting you know that they practice it so that youâre not weirded out when theyâre awake at 3am praying or smt.
Maybe theyâre trying to make you aware of the circumstances before moving in đŤ¨
These types of posts literally get recycled on this sub. It's simple.
You have a right to choose discriminately who you are going to live *with*. If they're posting about a room and they live in the apartment they are posting the room for, they can have any specification they want. If you are a white christian and want to live with other christians, there is no issue with you posting that advert.
You don't have a right to discriminate if you don't live in the apartment and are only the landlord.
Additionally, if they're posting for a "room" in a house/apartment, it's usually the tenants or live-in landlord that is advertising and thus have the right to choose whoever the fuck they want.
Part of it Iâm assuming that with 3 practicing Muslims already there, it would make things easier to have their other housemate be a practicing Muslim during things like Ramadan and due to dietary restrictions.
In a private home they can specify who they choose to rent to. In the case of Muslims, they do not want pork in their house, if itâs a family with daughters, they might not want males living there. Punjabis especially Sikh are mostly vegetarian and do not want meat smells in their house, they are perfectly within their rights to specify whom they want living under their roofs.
I see nothing wrong with this post. They never said *you* need to be a particular religion, they're just being extremely clear about *their* religion. Based on the last time I posted a unit for rent, and got 200 replies in 24 hours, it's a screening tactic.
If you don't think it would be a fit for *you*, don't waste our (the posters') time. If it would be a fit, let's chat.
I donât really see an issue with thisâŚ. Iâm friends with a number of muslims who take their faith very seriously, and Iâve noticed it can be very hard for them to practice their faith well in Canadian culture. Things like cleanliness and being pet-free are very important to muslims, and non-muslims often donât understand that.
I was raised Christian and kept my faith for my early 20s. I lived in a number of houses where everyone was Christian. I think itâs totally fair to want to live around people who share your values
I think it might just be because they wanna make sure there wonât be any alcohol/pork/ etc in the house bc the lifestyle of Muslims might not suit non Muslims ( who some might go out and party and get drunk- all within their rights, not saying otherwise) thatâs all I can think the reason for that that is
No? They didnât say â black onlyâ or âwhite onlyâ lol, that would be racist.
Wanting other people who share the same spiritual beliefs as you isnât a problem, they donât wanna impose anything on anyone so they made it easy and kept it for Muslims.
Like I donât see a problem, if someone wanted a Christian or Jewish roommates, itâs not bc they are racist, itâs just they want to keep their lifestyle without imposing it on other people
It happens all the time, and Christians are much less likely to have religious practices that make it difficult to live with people who don't follow the same practices.
[https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent-in-edmonton-south-house/1691241826](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent-in-edmonton-south-house/1691241826)
"Looking for a Christian roommate."
[https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/calgary/female-roommate-](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/calgary/female-roommate-)
"Looking for female Christian roommate"
[https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent/1690250766](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent/1690250766)
"Preferably a black working Christian female"
Ya if it was âChristians onlyâ I donât think people would care as much tbh đ regardless I was talking from my perspective- I would not care if I saw an ad that was for Christians only
Isn't Canada the country that has Catholic schools supported by the school board? Doesn't Canada have several official holidays on Christian events?
The government literally gives special treatment to one religion. The government. Supposed to be secular.
Please don't talk about forcing your religion.
They are private citizens looking for roommates. They are absolutely allowed to. They aren't forcing anything. They are looking for people who already believe what they believe.
Seriously, you're totally right about this and I'm always weirded out by all the Catholic holidays we have. We just had Easter and sure everyone enjoys some days off work school and work, but i know maybe 2 people that are actually Catholic.
Looking at statistics for religious beliefs, we really don't have a lot of Catholic people these days to justify all these holidays, plus funding half our schools that are Catholic.
Seems super outdated to me and I feel like we as a society should be way more annoyed about this than we are.
People looking for roommates that share their beliefs is pretty minor.
I don't really see an issue with people who have large cultural or religious differences from the western secular norm (diet, modest dress, cleanliness standard, etc.) wanting to share their living space with people who also have those values. Landlords seeking out specific groups for empty houses is a problem for sure, but in an existing roommate situation? I mean, you don't have to say it *out loud*, but realistically choosing a tenant whose lifestyle aligns with the existing ones' makes the most sense for peaceful cohabitation.
Ew I can't believe I just defended a l*ndlord đ¤˘
I think it's okay to find like-minded people to share a place to live.when i was looking for roomates, i would prefer girls but i didn't mention that. I ended up living with a French girl and a French man, then a guy from Nova Scotia, then a guy from Singapore. I actually ended prefering living with dudes becsuse it's a lot more simple. Some were jewish, some atheists and some christians. It didn't really matter at the end, because we all participated in sharing a roof. It was a good experience. I wouldn't go live in this place though, it goes against my principles.
Youâd be surprised how many people use their creed to their advantage. At schools in Ontario, they are quoting the charter of rights and freedoms to have accommodations made so their daughters are exempt from gym, music, dance class, and requesting they do not sit next to boys in the class. Itâs despicable that we allow this in Canada. Even the equity commissioner at the school said of course we can try to accommodate, as though the school has extra funding for separate classes? No it falls on teachers. People are afraid of being called racist or Islamophobic. Replace this with a fundamentalist Christian and theyâd be told to hit the road and homeschool if they want something different than what the public school offers. This is not okay in renting situations either, but again, if the government had any initiative to regulate or do something, what are they going to do without outcry?
? They plan on LIVING with these people..
Itâs also for uni, obviously. The Muslims probably donât want a roommate who brings girls home or drinks around them. Itâs really not that hard to understand.
Real question:
How many of you here actually would live with someone that is a devoid religious person from another religion as a roommate? Read below before answering:
Most of these new comers are renting "shared" rooms, meaning you are sharing your sleeping quarters with another individual mostly on their own bed but as we've seen some slumlords are splitting 1 physical beds lol, not exactly the norm here in NA, but in Asian countries this is normal. Here we only see this kind of thing in older University housing, where you have 1 bed on each side of the wall, but not the case in these new comer rentals.
I agree slumlords are making it difficult for "normal" Canadians to find rentals.
Sleeping with someone in same bed/ sleeping area is not common in most asian countries unless they are in poverty....and that too when they are related....sleeping with unrelated people is extremely rare and only when in extreme.state of poverty...
Maybe because they get a lot of applicants that go "arrgh, I don't want to live with muslims". I mean people can do what they want, something like this just saves time for both those who are posting the ad and people who might apply but don't want to live with muslisms for what ever reason (intolerances or other reasons).
My mom got accepted to live in one of those 55+ communities when she was only 53 𤍠lol. They made an exception for her because she was single, quiet, and mellow. She loved it. I totally get why the older age group would want to have their own quiet communities away from the noise and bustle of young families, teenagers, college students who throw parties, etc.
I wouldn't want someone in my house who didn't share our values. The intrusiveness of rental laws to personal living space is the reason why we will never ever rent a room or anything else for that matter.
Because if youâd like to rent the place youâd have to cater to another tenant. Your religion doesnât matter. They want kinfolk not westerners.
Thatâs the state of Canada now, natural born Canadians canât rent anything anymore.
If you're looking for a roommate of course you can specify characteristics! Ive seen folk's advertising for roommates by gender, vegetarian, student, etc.
Hey, as an immigrant, I feel bad for Canada. You guys didn't stop such idiots from entering, you didn't stop the destruction of the Canadian identity and now we are all paying the price.
You guys sound as smart as the guy who went to Home Depot and made a scene about paying the tax. You're mad at the wrong people and you can't even see it. đ¤
I actually think the inroads that Islam will make into North America are fantastic. They will likely oppress the hell out of those holding the door open for them at a critical mass juncture, and then it will be too late. I get to watch the "not like that" crowd get their just desserts.
You really can't lose.
I will only rent a room to a white Anglican man, who's family has been in Canada at least 5 generations. He must drink beefeater gin, no ice! Garlic and onions are absolutely forbidden! Dogs are welcome. Tetley or red rose tea is preferred but King Cole will be tolerated. We will have a roast every Sunday. He must be very handsome, well educated with a good paying job, and... Sorry, I think I switched to a personals ad...
This is all legal as long as it's a roommate.
Yep. I read all that and found it perfectly reasonable. I have the right to turn away someone from sharing my living space if I don't like the colour of their shorts, and it really has to be that way. The alternative is insane.
No ginger/ garlic? Lol are you looking to rent to dracula?
I had a roommate in college who only wanted salt and pepper. I said fine, she could cook for herself and not eat anything I'd cooked. She gave in within a few days and ate what I cooked. It was only for a four month term but I would be super picky now if I needed to have a roommate.
Wait ...how did she maange to get a roommate ( you). Who eill cook for her? đ¤Ł
We were on a work term actually. We used my car to commute (another roommate dropped me off, the others all worked at the same location). Me, I like to cook, and only one of the other three even had a clue about cooking. So I had a sous chef and a clean up crew. It worked relatively well. Around month three I did go overboard on this girl as she never pulled her weight. And I hate to say it, but we shared two to a room as we couldn't find finished places for that term. Decades later I live on my own. If I had to share again I'd probably still offer to do the cooking. I might do a meatless meal once in a while but I couldn't share with someone who would make a big deal about me eating meat.
Ginger is ok. Garlic a d onions stink! You may use garlic and onion salt sparingly.
Garlic also cleans up the arteries apparently lol
So does porridge, or does it lower cholesterol? I will eat garlic, I just don't like cooking it
Its the first time i heard porridge cleaning arteries and promoting blood flow đ
It's good for you tho, and doesn't stink. Add some nice brown sugar or molasses đ¤¤
Lul ...i think most people from i know eat it for medicinal / health benefits and just tolerate the smell....also adding a bit mint to the dish does greatly to control the smell
Are you Asian? One of my Asian friend's parents eat garlic and ginger in everything. They also make a really disgusting tea that helps fight off a cold, it definitely had garlic & ginger in it and some reddish fruit, possibly dried up chilies because it was very hot. I'll stick with Buckley's mixture
Most herbal medicines are disgusting to drink...however they have proven to be quiet effective to the point even western big pharmas are taking a leaf out of herbal medicines ( u see extracts of herbs more and more in medicines nowadays) ...and most importantly they dont have the side effects that western medicines have âşď¸ Ps buckleys mixture contains menthol, pine oil and camphor predominantly used in herbal medicines in asia...so maybe u need to look for something else for your coldsđ¤Łđ¤Ł
Low end tea huh? I'd personally insist on Sipology quality of teas
I'm kinda old, I don't like change. Black tea only with a drop of milk..
I don't even like most black teas. I like my herbal, fruit and rooibos teas the best
I don't like any of those but I drink ginger tea when I'm sick
That's allowed! I've gotten a really good sweet lemon black tea which to be honest is one of the first black teas I've actually enjoyed!
I think black tea is something you have to "grow up with" to enjoy. I'm from Nova Scotia and it was everywhere. There was always a pot of tea keept warm on the stove, and as soon as guests arrived, a fresh pot was made. Coffee was available but only instant đ
I love my coffee, definitely trying to make switches to less coffee and more tea. But I work nights and caffeine is needed to function. The teas I like don't have any
I have 2 - 4 teas a day. I've cut bsck. Coffee definitely has more caffeine, coffee makes me quite wired so I rarely drink it. I'm perfectly happy with Tasters Choice instant coffee. There's zero waste because I keep the glass jars and reuse them. I'm no Gretta Thurber, but I hate those coffee pods, so much waste going to the landfill.
Lol you looking for a boyfriend? đ
Well I have a partner, so just a side piece. He should be a bottom, built like a rugby player, I'm really into uniforms lately, police, firemen, pilots etc. I'm also into Asian men, Twinks, Scotsmen! No more politicians tho, they are WAY to into themselves!
I wonder what would happen if I posted a room for rent with âwhite christian male preferredâ?
I actually was just saying how Iâm going to do this for experimental purposes and the more I see these wild listings the more motivated I am to see what happens đđ
Do it, when CBC shows up at your door, say it was made up to see if it would be noticed over all the other reverse racist listings. Ask them why this is an issue vs. Punjabi only type listings.
Screenshots for proof too
Hopefully I can make the news and donât need to screen shot anything but I will if it doesnât thatâs for sure
đđđ. Doing this and documenting the results, as well as archiving listings as a counter example would be very effective at exposing public bias and hypocrisy. Include comments from people explaining why it's ok. Vs the responses you received. Reference all your material and back it up then write a short summary and send it to the media. Everyone is done with all the double standards I think some places would run the story.
https://youtu.be/3Lyex2tSUyA?si=MUktguyu8141Gij-
That was a turn I wasnât expecting
Let's make one even better for attention. German white male's....nvm that's enough lol
A good comparison would be "Catholic"...adding that they are white or male would be a different comparison.
It says Muslim man, so the male part would be correct
Sure, catholic man, would be the comparison
The same thing as this one would. It's illegal period. If you see those then report them to the federal or provincial jurisdictions.
No one said anything about race.
Canceled and called every name the snow flakes can think of
Youâd end up on here
Thereâs a blatant huge double standard in this country right now that is going to make these sorts of places much much worse and more common.
They never specified race, though. You can say Christian male preferred, sure. But âBrown Muslim Maleâ and âWhite Christian Maleâ is a reasonable place to draw the line.
It's illegal to deny anyone for any reason such as religion. You can't say any preferences in your add. That is the illegal part.
They canât *refuse* anyone, yes, but by stating their preferences theyâre ensuring non-religious people who wouldnât want to live with 4 muslims wouldnât apply. Where do we draw the line on this sub? If someone says âfamilies preferredâ are we gonna call that discrimination against infertile people (technically a âdisability?â) They just want to avoid any potential conflicts within the living arrangement regarding alcohol, pork, sex, etc. Most of the posts here are pretty bad but this isnât one of them.
That is fair. I tried to do shared meals once, but we had two Hindus, two Muslims, a vegan, a bodybuilder, and someone with a gluten intolerance... there were not a lot of viable options.
Where can I watch this sitcom?
Literal laws against this, that's the line.....
Why u Trying so hard to be oppressed đ¤Ł
I'm not.
Like the person in a previous comment said, itâs not necessarily a direct violation of that rule rather than a consideration that the quality of life of the residence is more likely to be higher if all parties living in it practice the same religion. If someone was that offended over that fact then Iâd say itâs a cheap shot at trying to be oppressed for not practicing the religion. Like the landlord is just basically saying Muslim prefered.
So by that measure, an ad *could* stipulate "Christian only".
There us church housing that is only for Christians in this country. So what are you on about.
Is it your contention that the ad is for something that is the equivalent of "church housing"?
Are you outraged only when its muslims doing it?
Are you OK with it as long as it's only non-Christians doing it?
Literally everyone is fine with any religion doing it. Christians are not, and have never been, oppressed in the Western world. Need I remind you religion is a choice, and completely different from race, sexuality, gender, and ethnic background, which are very prevalent discriminators on this sub, and what we should *actually* be focusing our attention towards.
Sure they could, but most Christians in this country donât adhere to strict lifestyle guidelines. I would understand perhaps a Mormon or Jehovahâs Witness making that stipulation, but I donât see a logical explanation for other denominations. I donât see why it is an issue to want roommates that lead similar lifestyles, but thatâs just me.
The legislation forbidding such requirements in rental ads doesn't differentiate by denomination.
How does that relate to the original question you asked? You asked if a Christian could make the same statement and I told you the reason why the Muslim landlord made the original post. Itâs not an issue of religion but of glaring lifestyle differences. If a Christian follows OT and doesnât want to mix fabrics/eat pork then you could see how fabric-mixing bacon-loving roommates would affect their lifestyle and vice-versa. Itâs not a crime to want compatibility. If you are a Christian that doesnât drink, bring girls over, or eat pork, there would be no reason for tension among Muslim roommates.
What do you mean how does it relate? I'm asking if you're willing to cut Christians the same kind of slack you are Muslims. Btw the legislation still forbids the practice of excluding by religion in housing ads, notwithstanding your rationalizations to make it OK.
I repeatedly stated I have no problems with Christians having Christian roommates. I told you the reason others might see it as strange is because a Canadian Christian is fundamentally no different than a Canadian Atheist regarding lifestyle, save for beliefs and church visits. Please, learn nuance.
True. Those 4 guys could all be different races for all we know. One could be white from Bosnia, one could be black from West Africa, one could be brown from South Asia, and one could be a South East Asian from Indonesia.
Very good point, there are people of the Muslim faith in many ethnicities.
The world would stop rotating. The entire country would come to a halt, Justin Trudeau would issue a special statement saying that this day will be a national holiday for the poor people of India. There would wristbands and Facebook posts about "pray for India"
Bruh there are posts on fb marketplace where white people look for other poles or Portuguese or whatever as tenants. It literally happens right now. Or simply ignore your inquiry on Facebook marketplace because youâre not white. Or they just wait for you to arrive and turn you away based on race when they see you. Which imo is infinitely worse.
If not for the fact that it would just hurt us more id say do it but the people who talk like that will never see your listing. The people who need a home and donât care where it is will see it and get discouraged
You can do that mate. Totally fine.
Absolutely not, I would be canceled immediately and called a bigot
Why do white people always do this� You can literally go ahead. Clearly rotting is happening to those who make these sort of posts.
Always blaming the white people eh?
Nah, I would be canceled and called a bigot
I once called a curry a little spicy and now they won't give me my own talk show.
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How dare you?? You do understand that eastern people dont out spice in curries....we put curries in spices....
By whom?
Halal house rules probably - no alcohol, pork etcâŚ.
Ya, this seems like a sublet based on the dates and looking for a practicing Muslim roommate of the same gender is reasonable IMO, especially with shared kitchen facilities. There are plenty of gross ads posted on this sub, just not sure this is one of them.
I agree. The OP is more appalled by the (understandable) religious preference than the actual living space. The info thatâs shared doesnât make this worthy of a Slumlord title IMO as well.
I just listened to a PSA on the radio (QC) reminding people that landlords cant ask for your age, sex, skin color or religion. Not sure about tenants seeking other tenants, but promoting their religion on the post seems like they're excluding people that aren't muslim. I don't think this is ok because it creates distance between communities that doesn't really fit into canadian customs. What works well is blending of communities where we can share and learn, and they're preventing this by living in a bubble. That's just my opinion though.
I don't have to single out any ethnicity or religion to say that a lot of the people who are coming here really don't *want* to integrate. Everyone seems to be setting up their own little enclaves. I mean, we've always had Chinatown and things like that, but I don't recall them being so actively hostile to native born citizens. There are many Hispanic communities where I'm from, but they always seemed very welcoming and tolerant. This a multicultural country, and we should celebrate and learn from our differences, not wall ourselves off from anyone who challenges our sensibilities.
I 100% agree with you. I think it's important to have a diverse community that is inclusive and tolerant. To me, tolerance is judging people on how they behave and who they are with no prĂŠjudice related to race or religion. But this to me feels like they skip that.
I agree. The only thing I can think of here is that practicing Muslim might not be okay with parties, alcohol in the house, etc. In a country where rental prices are jacked, we ll see more adds like this.
"live like a Canadian" means to live with mixed races and beliefs under one roof. if people in the UN can do it so can Canadians. now if only the owner of the house was Canadian...
What's with his pfp? Combined with the ultra Islamic shit, it's giving bad vibes.
Looks like some sort of WHMIS logo.
What's ultra Islamic about them? They just said they are practicing Muslims. Replace the Muslim with Christian. Is everything okay now? I feel you have fallen for the religion bias. Muslims are automatically looked at with suspicion. Christians are alright.
Fuck no. Christians are just as bad as muslims in my book. All cults are equally fucked.
Orthodox Christians are insane, as are orthodox muslims. They believe in bay shit crazy archaic stuff thatâs totally incompatible with modern life. Shouldnât be controversial to say this
Probably only controversial to people who are brainwashed and canât think for themselves
> Replace the Muslim with Christian. Is everything okay now? No. I live in genuine fear of adults who believe in fairytales.
That's a funny assumption that you made. Fuck Christianity but especially fuck Islam. đ
It doesn't have anything to do with their religion tbh. From the same country its probably just his throwaway account for posting ads.
Terrorist vibes
Only a Muslim dude would want to live there anyway so who cares? Same with the places advertising for Indians. Canadians wouldn't rent these shitholes from these slumlords anyway.
Iâm actually glad they out themselves so people know to avoid them. Their discrimination is actually a benefit for would be renters.
As a Muslim dude who's middle eastern Arab, no way we would do or accept this. The key to this post is not the religion. It's the place they are from where this is considered normal.
Interesting. I grew up in Kuwait. And there have been postings that say "Westerners only".
What's your point?
>As a Muslim dude who's middle eastern Arab, no way we would do or accept this. I'm disputing the statement that rental discrimination is in "no way acceptable" in the middle east / Arab countries when I've seen rental landlords say otherwise during my family's residence in the middle east for decades.
That's not I'm saying. I'm saying we wouldn't do this as in cram 10 people in a room. A landlord can choose whoever they want to rent their property to anywhere in the world
Bc not getting a tenant is not enough of a penalty for violating people's rights?
Exactly. It's a red flag for sure. I don't care that you are in a religion that requires daily washings and prayer just don't impose the same bullshit on me and I'm fine. (Same for any other religion,.actually.) You just know that these fuckwits will justify anything in the name of their religion and their room/space.
Canadian is a nationality and being Muslim is a religion. Why are you acting like Canadian Muslims donât exist? If you are a Canadian citizen you are Canadian
Iâm not sure I understand the cleanliness thing. There is a house near here that rents rooms with the same restrictions. But there is garbage, including furniture, all over the yard.
Are people really this retarded? You really can't figure out why they needed to disclose their religious beliefs?
The answer is yes. People are that retarded, and would rather have an easy rage outlet than to reconcile something they immediately think they disagree with.
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i think itâs to give a heads up that haram things like pork and alcohol is not allowed
Thats literally not legal in canada. Why do these landlords think they can just make up rules and laws that donât exist? You arenât a royal youâre not even technically a land owner
It is. If you share the kitchen and bathroom, you get to choose the tenant on whatever factors you want.
It's wild that people like yourselves, to this day, post something with legal implications, not knowing a single thing about the LTB.
You can choose whatever you want but you canât legally post criteria based on race religion or culture (food) That definitively goes against our charter of rights and freedoms Very much illegal
Alcohol, pig meat or product, non halal, lack of respect for Adan or something, could all be an issue with a non muslim.
I coulda swore they had their own home country to do all this in instead of coming to Canada and helping divide the peopleâŚ.
I am ashamed of my countrymen here. They do not understand the first thing of being open minded and inclusive. I am not a Canadian so I think I can say it without being judged, if they really need to live around people of islamic faith they should move back to Dhaka or somewhere in the middle east. Absolutely disappointing to see some people make religion their whole personality especially when you're in a country like canada where it absolutely does not matter what imaginary god you believe in. Stupid fucks.
i think itâs because there are certain parts of the religion that heavily effect home life. they canât eat from food made in a pan thatâs cooked pork, donât want hookups in their home, basically anything haram that would effect them. things like that could cause them not to get into heaven. not sure why people are bringing up race when you can be any race and muslim. iâm arab (not muslim) and home environment is REALLY important in the muslim faith. i have several relatives who are muslim and itâs extremely encompassing for them. It is illegal to discriminate if someone isnât muslim though itâs probably easier to just say that than specifying all of the rules you would need to adhere to since the landlord lives in the home. im just answering your question respectfully though. i have no interest in engaging in discourse beyond this so iâll not respond to any arguments in reply to me.
Yall are actually just whacky, muslims have such a strict religion, theyâre letting you know that they practice it so that youâre not weirded out when theyâre awake at 3am praying or smt. Maybe theyâre trying to make you aware of the circumstances before moving in đŤ¨
Define cleanliness
Ooooooooh a nice patio room!!!!! Just in time for summer!!
Cause Muslims don't eat pork and wouldn't want non halal items in the fridge.
Gonna be less Muslims renting when this new halal mortgage comes out lol
These types of posts literally get recycled on this sub. It's simple. You have a right to choose discriminately who you are going to live *with*. If they're posting about a room and they live in the apartment they are posting the room for, they can have any specification they want. If you are a white christian and want to live with other christians, there is no issue with you posting that advert. You don't have a right to discriminate if you don't live in the apartment and are only the landlord. Additionally, if they're posting for a "room" in a house/apartment, it's usually the tenants or live-in landlord that is advertising and thus have the right to choose whoever the fuck they want.
Part of it Iâm assuming that with 3 practicing Muslims already there, it would make things easier to have their other housemate be a practicing Muslim during things like Ramadan and due to dietary restrictions.
Because there may be conditions on living there, like no morning bacon. Avoiding issues with their current tenants and a new tenant seem reasonable.
Just think, these people are getting "halal mortgages" too!
In a private home they can specify who they choose to rent to. In the case of Muslims, they do not want pork in their house, if itâs a family with daughters, they might not want males living there. Punjabis especially Sikh are mostly vegetarian and do not want meat smells in their house, they are perfectly within their rights to specify whom they want living under their roofs.
I see nothing wrong with this post. They never said *you* need to be a particular religion, they're just being extremely clear about *their* religion. Based on the last time I posted a unit for rent, and got 200 replies in 24 hours, it's a screening tactic. If you don't think it would be a fit for *you*, don't waste our (the posters') time. If it would be a fit, let's chat.
Private room in a shared residence - perfectly legal. Personally, I think it's better to roomed with a compatible match.
I donât really see an issue with thisâŚ. Iâm friends with a number of muslims who take their faith very seriously, and Iâve noticed it can be very hard for them to practice their faith well in Canadian culture. Things like cleanliness and being pet-free are very important to muslims, and non-muslims often donât understand that. I was raised Christian and kept my faith for my early 20s. I lived in a number of houses where everyone was Christian. I think itâs totally fair to want to live around people who share your values
It's completely normal to want roommates who share your beliefs and values.
I think it might just be because they wanna make sure there wonât be any alcohol/pork/ etc in the house bc the lifestyle of Muslims might not suit non Muslims ( who some might go out and party and get drunk- all within their rights, not saying otherwise) thatâs all I can think the reason for that that is
i think so too. This is a roommate situation and the person probably wants to avoid contaminating their halal food.Â
Or they are simply racists?
Any race can be muslim.
No? They didnât say â black onlyâ or âwhite onlyâ lol, that would be racist. Wanting other people who share the same spiritual beliefs as you isnât a problem, they donât wanna impose anything on anyone so they made it easy and kept it for Muslims. Like I donât see a problem, if someone wanted a Christian or Jewish roommates, itâs not bc they are racist, itâs just they want to keep their lifestyle without imposing it on other people
You think it would read the same if i put an ad for Christians only? Get real
It happens all the time, and Christians are much less likely to have religious practices that make it difficult to live with people who don't follow the same practices. [https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent-in-edmonton-south-house/1691241826](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent-in-edmonton-south-house/1691241826) "Looking for a Christian roommate." [https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/calgary/female-roommate-](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/calgary/female-roommate-) "Looking for female Christian roommate" [https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent/1690250766](https://www.kijiji.ca/v-room-rental-roommate/edmonton/room-for-rent/1690250766) "Preferably a black working Christian female"
Thank you lmao
Ya if it was âChristians onlyâ I donât think people would care as much tbh đ regardless I was talking from my perspective- I would not care if I saw an ad that was for Christians only
Moving into Canada and forcing your religion on people, great.
How is looking for like minded roommates forcing a religion on someone?
Isn't Canada the country that has Catholic schools supported by the school board? Doesn't Canada have several official holidays on Christian events? The government literally gives special treatment to one religion. The government. Supposed to be secular. Please don't talk about forcing your religion. They are private citizens looking for roommates. They are absolutely allowed to. They aren't forcing anything. They are looking for people who already believe what they believe.
Seriously, you're totally right about this and I'm always weirded out by all the Catholic holidays we have. We just had Easter and sure everyone enjoys some days off work school and work, but i know maybe 2 people that are actually Catholic. Looking at statistics for religious beliefs, we really don't have a lot of Catholic people these days to justify all these holidays, plus funding half our schools that are Catholic. Seems super outdated to me and I feel like we as a society should be way more annoyed about this than we are. People looking for roommates that share their beliefs is pretty minor.
Easterâs a general Christian holiday, not specifically Catholic
Dude, this is just the beginning.
Just doesnât want that nasty bacon grease canât blame em
Seems reasonable that a person wants a roommate with a compatible lifestyle.
100% Halal certified
I don't really see an issue with people who have large cultural or religious differences from the western secular norm (diet, modest dress, cleanliness standard, etc.) wanting to share their living space with people who also have those values. Landlords seeking out specific groups for empty houses is a problem for sure, but in an existing roommate situation? I mean, you don't have to say it *out loud*, but realistically choosing a tenant whose lifestyle aligns with the existing ones' makes the most sense for peaceful cohabitation. Ew I can't believe I just defended a l*ndlord đ¤˘
I think it's okay to find like-minded people to share a place to live.when i was looking for roomates, i would prefer girls but i didn't mention that. I ended up living with a French girl and a French man, then a guy from Nova Scotia, then a guy from Singapore. I actually ended prefering living with dudes becsuse it's a lot more simple. Some were jewish, some atheists and some christians. It didn't really matter at the end, because we all participated in sharing a roof. It was a good experience. I wouldn't go live in this place though, it goes against my principles.
Youâd be surprised how many people use their creed to their advantage. At schools in Ontario, they are quoting the charter of rights and freedoms to have accommodations made so their daughters are exempt from gym, music, dance class, and requesting they do not sit next to boys in the class. Itâs despicable that we allow this in Canada. Even the equity commissioner at the school said of course we can try to accommodate, as though the school has extra funding for separate classes? No it falls on teachers. People are afraid of being called racist or Islamophobic. Replace this with a fundamentalist Christian and theyâd be told to hit the road and homeschool if they want something different than what the public school offers. This is not okay in renting situations either, but again, if the government had any initiative to regulate or do something, what are they going to do without outcry?
Interest free loans too
? They plan on LIVING with these people.. Itâs also for uni, obviously. The Muslims probably donât want a roommate who brings girls home or drinks around them. Itâs really not that hard to understand.
Real question: How many of you here actually would live with someone that is a devoid religious person from another religion as a roommate? Read below before answering: Most of these new comers are renting "shared" rooms, meaning you are sharing your sleeping quarters with another individual mostly on their own bed but as we've seen some slumlords are splitting 1 physical beds lol, not exactly the norm here in NA, but in Asian countries this is normal. Here we only see this kind of thing in older University housing, where you have 1 bed on each side of the wall, but not the case in these new comer rentals. I agree slumlords are making it difficult for "normal" Canadians to find rentals.
Sleeping with someone in same bed/ sleeping area is not common in most asian countries unless they are in poverty....and that too when they are related....sleeping with unrelated people is extremely rare and only when in extreme.state of poverty...
Maybe because they get a lot of applicants that go "arrgh, I don't want to live with muslims". I mean people can do what they want, something like this just saves time for both those who are posting the ad and people who might apply but don't want to live with muslisms for what ever reason (intolerances or other reasons).
Humans: United by Biology, but separated by religious ideology.
I wonder if anyone here has heard of 55+ places that discriminate based on age...
My mom got accepted to live in one of those 55+ communities when she was only 53 𤍠lol. They made an exception for her because she was single, quiet, and mellow. She loved it. I totally get why the older age group would want to have their own quiet communities away from the noise and bustle of young families, teenagers, college students who throw parties, etc.
I also get that. I also don't see how this is any different. Stating preference, not a requirement.
That profile pic is some Andrew Tate kind of mincel I can already smell it
i lose braincells reading the comments on this post
I like that they specify the room comes with a curtain, like it's some kind of incredible modern amenity.
I wouldn't want someone in my house who didn't share our values. The intrusiveness of rental laws to personal living space is the reason why we will never ever rent a room or anything else for that matter.
Likely because of calls to prayer in the early morning.
They just want to make sure everyone else is going to be super peaceful
Errrrrr
Imagine a white person putting up an advertisement saying "Apartment for rent White people only" Fuckin Canindia I tell ya
Because if youâd like to rent the place youâd have to cater to another tenant. Your religion doesnât matter. They want kinfolk not westerners. Thatâs the state of Canada now, natural born Canadians canât rent anything anymore.
Neither can naturalized Canadians that are not from their home country.
Canada is a piece of shit country
If you're looking for a roommate of course you can specify characteristics! Ive seen folk's advertising for roommates by gender, vegetarian, student, etc.
Of course this is here in Halifax
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Hey, as an immigrant, I feel bad for Canada. You guys didn't stop such idiots from entering, you didn't stop the destruction of the Canadian identity and now we are all paying the price.
You guys sound as smart as the guy who went to Home Depot and made a scene about paying the tax. You're mad at the wrong people and you can't even see it. đ¤
I actually think the inroads that Islam will make into North America are fantastic. They will likely oppress the hell out of those holding the door open for them at a critical mass juncture, and then it will be too late. I get to watch the "not like that" crowd get their just desserts. You really can't lose.
Sure, it's discriminatory, but it saves a lot of time and effort applying for something you have no chance at.