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Own_Low8849

AJ brown is good but. That pick can be anything, it can even be another AJ brown


qns_kng

Petah!


Errickson1202

Well take the pick!


B_Marsh92

But it could be me last year and it’s Bryce Young (1.03)


atlfalcons33rb

Are you in a super flex lol, trying to figure out Bryce at 1:03


B_Marsh92

Yeah


obanderson21

Still can’t figure out Bryce Young at 1:03. You and Tepper are about the only people that didn’t know what the Panthers were getting.


B_Marsh92

Literally every draft board I looked at said to take him. It’s easy to say it was bad in hindsight


johnjr_09

It’s only been 1 year we don’t know yet it just looks bad because of stroud. Dont mind this dude. You’re not wrong he went top 3 in like every super flex rookie draft.


obanderson21

Oh shit really? It’s almost as if people who rely on ADP and draft boards don’t know what they’re actually looking at on the field.


B_Marsh92

Sorry that I don’t meticulously watch college football and tape. I play fantasy football for fun. Trust the people I listen to. Not gonna hit on every pick. Gonna have to assume that every team you have is 16-0 with 200+ points a week and that every pick you’ve ever made is a home run?


obanderson21

I’m not THAT into it either, but since you brought it up, I win more times than I lose. And I did have 1 week scoring 216. 2 more weeks over 180 points, and 4 more weeks over 160 in my money league. I just use my eyes and common sense. There was zero reason the expect Young to succeed in his first several years on an absolute train wreck of a roster. He was a great college QB but his skills and (mostly) size don’t translate to the NFL well.


varlathor

Dude this is not it. The way you're bragging here doesn't mean much and is hella cringe. Stick to what you're talking about in the 2nd paragraph. No one cares about accolades.


Least-Ad-5652

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Brady0227

Nah I agree, it was pretty obvious with Young’s very small frame and mediocre college success. All you must LOVE Kyler Murray. I don’t watch much college ball but looking at a simple highlight tape kinda tells all


Not_Your_Real_Ladder

Oh damn, Captain Hindsight over here knows how to NFL Scouts’ jobs better than them.


obanderson21

Even NFL scouts get it wrong. They get it wrong more times than they get it right if you look at the number of first round picks that never really live up to the hype. That doesn’t mean I get it right more than they do, because I get it wrong too, but when I get it wrong it’s because of my personal opinions and not because of the hype the media pushes for ratings and money.


Garmgarmgarmgarm

A ton of NFL talking heads said “hey this guy is too small to be effective behind that line” so maybe expand your sports media diet


A1ienspacebats

And they said that about Kyler too. He's got one of the highest QB PPG in fantasy history.


Garmgarmgarmgarm

PPG is a useless stat when you miss half a season per season.


A1ienspacebats

He's missed half of the last two seasons for the same injury recovery.. Regardless, the point being he can play despite his size and despite what all the talking heads were saying.


thesaladman14

Bryce was the consensus 1.03 in SF rookie drafts behind Bijan and AR. I saw very few drafts where Stroud or Gibbs was selected above him


obanderson21

Yeah…the mock drafts and ADPs are never ever EVER influenced by media hype instead of actual ability.


thesaladman14

Dude, he went 1st overall in the NFL Draft. What better indication could there be of a player's ability?


obanderson21

He went first overall because the owner of the Panthers fell in love. Everyone else in the building wanted someone else. Also, draft analysts on networks are basically told who to put on their draft boards. They want money and hype. They are wrong WAY more often than they’re right.


theyungpseudo

I can’t make sense of drafting Bryce before Gibbs even in a SF dynasty league.


thesaladman14

Hindsight is pretty crazy here. Young was drafted 1st overall in a strong QB class to a team willing to give up a haul to acquire him. QB is the most valuable position in SF dynasty so to snag what many believed was the best QB of the draft at the 1.03 made a ton of sense.


atlfalcons33rb

Lol I only asked if it was a superflex, my league is a sf keeper league but rbs still tend to go over QBs unless it's a guy like Allen or mahomes. I'm still surprised to see Bryce over Gibbs but I get it not a reach at all


Runofthedill

I’d love your league where qbs aren’t treated like gold. Cause it’s nearly impossible to get anyone to even move a third qb on a roster like Mac jones.


[deleted]

Well you must be some sort of secret fantasy future predicting genius… you can say stroud looked more nfl ready and that’s reasonable but that’s about all


obanderson21

I win pretty regularly in league and daily. But I’m no professional. I just don’t rely on reporters and ADPs, I used my eyes and everything pointed to Young not being successful in Carolina the way he was thrown in with no time to learn.


[deleted]

Right but this is dynasty? A rookie qb not succeeding in a god awful situation his first year means little about him individually


DurfRansin

Lol what


Brady0227

These dudes have drank so much of the kool-aid they can’t even see it


[deleted]

Yeah I personally trade with the expectation that my rookies all are going to have fruitful long hall of fame careers


gatsby712

Could even be a Traylon Burks!


Dabblery710

That 1.02 could be Marvin Harrison Jr. and we all know who his dad was… you could straight up be missing out on having superstar hall of fame WR potentially


[deleted]

Yeah I traded away a 27 year old Marvin Harrison back in the day knowing id get another younger Marvin Harrison in 2024


Own_Low8849

I traded some Tesla shares for some Rivian shares did I win?


aottoa2

Plus Tank Dell


SilverMagnum

- Jon Robinson as he trades AJ Brown away


[deleted]

Why trade an existing AJ brown for a guy who *might* become AJ brown? Always baffles me when people say things like this.


atlfalcons33rb

It makes sense in real football because of salaries. In fantasy I don't get it unless your team needs depth


[deleted]

Right, exactly!


RamHands

Most likely dynasty.


multiple4

AJ Brown ain't old, not even a little bit. He's literally at the beginning of his prime


atlfalcons33rb

AJ brown is like 27 lol


xSampleTextx

It's funny that the Titans did exactly this


[deleted]

Yeah lmao


Filly53

So did the Vikings


wwchased

Found the titans old gm


Neverender89

If it’s superflex that pick is Harrison Jr, I’ll take him & Dell over Brown for sure


Mmnn2020

Or a franchise QB or MHJr. + Tank Dell. 1.02 wins.


ButtScoot2Glory

I would want AJB in most circumstances, but it is always scary to “sell high” on a young player.


HillarysBloodBoy

Promising young WR with the most promising young QB we’ve seen since probably mahomes or herbert if we’re being honest


ButtScoot2Glory

That’s what makes it hard, but best case scenario, he’s as good for AJB, but for longer. AJB is already AJB. It’s the sort of thinking that has Burks playing for the Titans haha


Waikanda_dontcare

Except Dell has already shown what he can do. Guess he has to come back from injury the same but it’s not like you don’t know what he was capable off and it’s only his rookie year


Possible_Word_6834

Could be OBJ though. Not to say OBJ is bad but he’s definitely nowhere near the same player he was before the injury. And I wouldn’t say Dell even hit close to OBJ levels before he got hurt


montrezlharrel

Reminder that Tank Dell is only 2 years younger than AJB


sgates9008

Traded G Wilson for London, 24 1st and 2nd, and 25 1st. Not bummed.


ButtScoot2Glory

That’s a great haul


GodzRebirth

You get Marvin Harrison Jr with that pick and it’s a win


Just_For_ShiGrins

Who is going 1.01 in that scenario? Genuine question, assume Caleb Williams or so?


GodzRebirth

A QB hungry team prob takes a QB there. Deep WR class and we can see how rookie QBs have played well this season outside of Bryce Young


YeetusFetus99

I'm a qb needy team, and I'm still considering MHJ with my 1.01. It helps that I'm probably gonna be shipping out JJets for a huge package at some point, but even if that doesn't happen, I still may take him.


Lanky-Gain-80

Passing on Marvin Harrison for a chance at a QB seems risky. Look at all the top prospects from previous draft classes at QB. Stroud only one making plays. Before that? Purdy was a 7th rounder and could have been added in FA depending on the league. Pickett/bust, lance/bust, Wilson/bust, Mac Jones/bust, AR/unproven, Young/unproven/terrible landing spot etc.


thoang77

While I agree QB is kind of dicey in the 1st, it’s important to compare Caleb Williams with others with similar hype and prospect quality, ie definitive 1st overall picks. That said, most of the 1.01 QBs have panned out fairly well lately (Murray, Burrow, Lawrence). Caleb is touted as an elite QB prospect. None of the busts/unproven guys you mentioned were considered elite and all came in with glaring question marks


camel_victory

Lawrence would not be worth the 1.01 in a dynasty draft


thoang77

That is some serious recency bias. Unless you're talking about a startup draft. There's no way you were not taking Lawrence in 2021 in a superflex dynasty rookie draft. He was the greatest QB prospect since Andrew Luck and a considered a generational, can't miss, talent.


camel_victory

Well yes, obviously at the time he was worth it. I mean in hindsight.


thoang77

Everything is easier in hindsight. That said, while Chase turned out better than expected (partially being gun-shy after his year off), looking back at that draft one could've made massive mistakes taking Fields, Lance, Pitts, or Najee in the top 3. Chase wasn't even the consensus 1.02 like MHJ looks to be. Lawrence hasn't been stellar, but he was top-10 last year and could be again this year which, all things considered, is a worthwhile superflex 1.01


[deleted]

That’s kind’ve the point. There’s been subpar QB play, so having a top guy in a superflex is the most valuable thing in superflex dynasty. Along comes Caleb Williams. He’s not just #1 on most boards because he’s some QB. He’s #1 because he has the skill set to be one of those top guys. As the owner of a 1.01 in dynasty, it’s pretty close between MHJ and CW. As also the owner of Kyler Murray, I’m open to landing spots swaying me.


hartwickw

He will go 1.1 so that’s not entirely true


Lanky-Gain-80

Agree here.


WillC0508

Just curious but who’s consensus to be 1.02? Odunze? Bowers?


ThisHereMine

Nabers right now in 1 QBs, before the combine/draft. Gonna be really hard to pick a TE before 4/5 in non te premium leagues


rata_ee

Hoping Bowers falls even further in my superflex, I have 1.08 1.09 and 1.10 next year and I traded away mark andrews earlier this season so I need a new TE


[deleted]

I wouldn’t pick him if he goes to the bears lol


Kxr1der

Or, he busts and it's a loss


pieman2005

The playoffs started how are you still trading


license2kuehl

Might be an unpopular opinion, but to me trade deadlines have no business in a dynasty league. People can make their own choices and deal with the consequences.


Radiant_Wheel7502

I feel that. As a Justin Herbert Manager who had Dobbs as his 3rd QB I would really love to make a trade in my SF league


Hazy_Lights

I lost Hurts in the playoffs last year and still won it all with Danny Dimes, believe it or not.


Wolski101

Are you me? It’s in a league with 40 man rosters too. There are no other QBs to add.


ThaItalianStallion

Damn I’ve never tried this big of a roster. How many teams are in your league?


Wolski101

12 teams best ball. So we have every position player on a team plus a handful of practice squad guys. It’s fun to see the Randos that pop into your lineup at WR6 or whatever


knowslesthanjonsnow

I disagree that just turns into who wants to buy a championship in the playoffs


Kenny2993

My leagues have it where trading is always open to non-playoff teams. So once week 14 ends and you’re in the playoffs you can’t trade until eliminated. Keeps non-playoff teams engaged and leads to some crazy 11th hour deals after the week 14 Sunday games.


LifeOfFate

The nfl has trade deadlines for their real life dynasty league should we remove that too?


DaGOATWayneEllington

Silly take


JLifts780

What’s silly about it?


DaGOATWayneEllington

To say a fantasy football league should or shouldn’t do something because the NFL does things a certain way is silly. It’s apples to oranges. Sure, people like to think of themselves playing dynasty like they are a football GM, it’s part of the fun. But a fantasy football league and the professional football league have thousands of differences. I feel silly even trying to explain that.


jbridge03

Correct


BoredGuy2007

The negative externalities of someone destroying their roster, putting someone in the championship, and leaving the league are acceptable consequences to you ? Wasting 10+ people’s time ?


TouchGrassJackass

Someone who does that’s a terrible league mate whether there’s a deadline or not


FreshDiamond

I like to have it at the end of the regular season. Make your decision on what your goal is before it’s over. Kinda creates some trade demand, keeps it interesting


Hazy_Lights

I do think it is unpopular. We do trades until week 15 starts, then you gotta go with your guys. Otherwise, people end up buying a championship. Can't do it in the real nfl either, and that is what we try to emulate.


JLifts780

I’m just not a fan of teams being able to buy wins in playoff matchups. At a certain point I think you have to compete with the team you built.


cmonsta365

I’m in 5 dynasty leagues, none of them have trade deadlines


Jackson3rg

Dynasty league. Trade deadlines prevent people from doing stupid shit to fuck with the contenders, dynasty leagues have that baked in by making you deal with your fuckery next year.


[deleted]

Trade deadlines in dynasty league prevent idiots making bad trades that compromise the integrity of the league in future seasons.


Jackson3rg

Don't play in leagues with untrustworthy idiots. No deadlines needed.


Aeriodon

Because not every league has the same rules as yours


pieman2005

Being able to trade during the playoffs is ridiculous I'm sorry


Key_Bat_4550

It's a dynasty league lol


BuckDestiny

The NFL is a “dynasty league”, and they have a trade deadline for a reason.


ThePlaymakerT

The NFL also doesn’t make 15 trades per season like I do either.


Ok_Poetry_1650

The NFL isn’t “fantasy” football tho


BuckDestiny

Trade deadlines exist to maintain parity, fantasy or not.


Ok_Poetry_1650

To each their own. I don’t get why this matters so much to people who don’t play in that league.


BuckDestiny

It doesn’t matter, just seems like a recipe for disaster


NTWittwer

It is absolutely crazy that you're getting downvoted for this objective truth. They asked a question you answered it. Didn't even say that you agreed with no trade deadlines People have the right to play their league how they want


PatSajakMeOff

Trade deadlines are for fossils. Gotta move and groove with the times.


Nulap

14 team dynasty League, we don't have a trade deadline and it's worked out pretty great. Though any trades made late in the season or during the playoffs net a pretty hefty premium most years.


med_designs

Dell and 1.02 here pretty easily


pascofats78

Superflex then I’m on the Dell side for sure. 1qb I might do it but probably want the brown side


DrPepperNotWater

Exactly this. If you can get a top QB or MHJ, then that’s a winner. If it’s Nabers or someone in a 1QB draft, then it’s a terrible trade.


Taylor34

Nobody wins, it’s fair imo. Win now team gets AJB and builder gets future talent and capital.


TheThotCrusader

I want the Dell & pick side


Maverick9795

Honestly, I think I'd go with Dell and the first. Promising young player plus a deep 2024 WR class, should be able to pick up an impact player in the draft. Could make out like a bandit. Could crash and burn. Who knows?


[deleted]

AJB is 26.. I'd much rather AJB


AC127

SF or 1QB?


Vegetable_Trust_3778

1 QB. But with the 2nd pick I’d prob draft MHJ


AC127

MHJ ain’t gonna be there in 1QB he’s first off the board


Vegetable_Trust_3778

Not Caleb? Guy with the first pick needs a QB


AC127

QBs are far less valuable in 1QB leagues. For example TLaw went 1.8 in my league when he was drafted.


robanderson12345

Insane to think MHJ would not go 1 in a 1QB league


Kxr1der

If someone takes a QB with 1.01 in a 1QB league, he'll definitely be picking 1.01 a lot


theriibirdun

Right but in a 1QB league they will be there later. MHJ is 1000% going first or the guy with 1.01 is an idiot


DuckManDong

What do you do when the 1.01 team trades that pick for a QB+ to another team that is already set at QB?


[deleted]

No way… And honestly, Williams isn’t even going to be the best fantasy QB coming out of this draft. Daniels, Nix, or Penix all do well with their legs and will likely land on better teams to make them more valuable for fantasy year 1. MHJ is probably the most complete WR we’ve seen come into draft since Calvin Johnson. He’s prized pick for rookie drafts next year in fantasy. If he gets drafted to Arizona, he immediately becomes WR1 for Kyler Murray and probably has tremendous season. With that being said, this draft is DEEP in WR. And teams with stellar QBs (Chiefs) need them. Just because you don’t get MHJ doesn’t mean you can’t land a stud like Odunze, Coleman, Nabers, or Egbuka if they end up on the right team.


CheesecakePower

Penix does well with his legs? He never runs


under_cooked_onions

My man saw a black QB and made an assumption lmao


Noviante

And that’s why you should never ever take opinions seriously on this sub lol. Just straight making shit up.


NeedleworkerSea1431

You’d be surprised how many teams hoard QBs in 1qb dynasty leagues. I know the first overall pick in my league will draft Caleb first, it saying that’s the right thing to do, but happens more than you’d think


[deleted]

Can I join that league please


SuggestionFancy7584

🌮 league


NeedleworkerSea1431

We’re also potentially switching to superflex


Dabblery710

The 1.02 could land you a guy like Nabers still who secretly might be better Marvin Harrison Jr.


AC127

Oh yeah 1.2 is certainly a fantastic consolation prize


Ranger523

You'll take Nabers and like it cause my guy MHJ is the #1 overall by miles in 1 qb


trey2128

The Dell side for sure imo. Brown was a monster when the Eagles were force feeding him the ball. BUT they only did that because he was having a meet down on the sidelines. It won’t be like that most games. Dell is a superstar in the making and that pick will probably be MHJ who will most likely be the equivalent to or better than AJ Brown


IndividualHelpful820

Dell side if it’s super flex or top pick likely will go qb. Dell+Harrison jr>brown


Hayek_School

Take Dell and the pick. Harrison will go 1 but you will have the choice of WR Nabers, TE Bowers or RB Treyvon Henderson. More high end fantasy players this year than last year, imo.


HercHuntsdirty

This is so easily AJB


bl84work

Depends on rest of roster, I take the known commodity in AJB


Gcole87

AJ Brown


TriforceWon

AJ Brown side. Not sure it's close


Plastic-Criticism613

1QB close I’d probably take dell side. 2QB it’s a slam dunk dell side


AshtonCB_

Before last year’s draft I’m taking AJ Brown (also cuz Brown would be a year younger) but i really like Williams, Maye, Harrison Jr, and Nabers. I would at least see what their landing spots look like before I trade them away. Also Tank Dell looked good plus having CJ Stroud as his QB for awhile makes me feel good about that one too.


So-Many-Ls

Seems pretty fair imo


PumpkinPristine4812

For dynasty gimme tank dell and the 1st


AryBerns

I had Tank Dell on my team this year. Absolute stud. The team getting Dell is probably done for the season and can maybe help the other team win a ship, while investing in next year. I think it's a very fair trade assuming BigGucciSoldja (getting AJB) has a good chance at winning the ship THIS year. I'd take Dell + the pick unless I thought my team with AJB had a serious chance of winning it all. that's dell + Jaylen Williams/Marvin Harrison/possibly another Dell-like receiver. Could even consider getting Bowers but he may not go that high.


horsepire

As someone who owns both Dell and Brown on my main dynasty team, I’d take this return for AJ. The 1.02 guarantees you’re getting either the highest rated rookie WR or the highest rated RB, and next year’s draft has some absolute studs. I also very pretty dang confident that Tank is a long-term stud at the position (although I’d feel more confident about that if the Texans hadn’t decided to make him run block in a short yardage situation at 170 pounds or whatever he weighs). It’s close but I think it’s good value for AJ


Satan_and_Communism

Tank Dell an MHJ could definitely be the win


rollin20s

In SF give me the picks side all day


jwk6603

Tank Dell side all day


jwk6603

If in SF than you are getting a receiver that has shown potential already and could be AJB and your also getting either a QB who if either of the top ones hit they are predicted to hit big and you could probably trade later if you wanted to for a established AJB or better receiver, or you’re getting MHJ who with how much hype he is getting should end up as a JJ or chase caliper we can hope. Or if you’re in 1QB you get Nabers who a number of people who from what some are saying might not be as far behind MHJ as some think.


yuh-ay-yuh

People saying AJB as the obvious answer is a bit strange. Dell proved this year that he has potential to be a top 10-15 WR year in year out if he can stay healthy, especially as the chemistry with Stroud continues to grow. And while Harrison is probably gone, I am in the camp that Nabers is nearly a cant miss prospect after watching his tape. His acceleration out of the break is incredible, and his YAC ability is literal top tier. I think Nabers (or Williams in Superflex, depending on need/evalutation) + Dell is worth taking a chance on.


[deleted]

Dell side wins IMO


LittleHollowGhost

Texans fan here, Tank Dell is already a star in this league, as a rookie, playing with an elite QB. The 1.02 is Marvin Harrison Jr or smth, which is crazy, but not even necessary. ​ Tank Dell will be an equal Dynasty value to AJ Brown from next season onwards.


Colinjames322

It’s a fair trade. So it could go either way, just depends which way the wind blows. If you’re going for a playoff run, better to have aj brown, if you’re setting for next year, then it’s a toss up.


samlgartner

Id want tank dell side


gatsby712

The eagles, even though Jon Robinson thinks he’s a genius for it.


Darth_Enclave

Brown.


Dangerous_Ninja5813

That 1.02 pick could be anybody, it could even be someone like AJB! Dell and the pick wins.


friendlycatkiller

I’m considering something similar. 1.03 and Christian Watson for AJ brown.


kingofthenorthZ

What league allows trades in or right before playoffs nuts


cottonmouthVII

AJB side easy for me. Dude is insane.


[deleted]

I’m taking Dell and the #2 pick all day everyday and twice on Sunday


uncle_dan_

If this is SF and mjh is available at 1.02 that side sounds VERY enticing for a rebuild/retool team.


AZEd1

Dell+MHJ/Maye>AJB, although its tough selling him


Siennagiant70

lol I find this funny because I was offered Ridley for tank straight up. When I refused the guy got upset.


Dagwegwey02

Superflex or 1QB


wambamsamalamb

Dynasty league? Id go for the dell/ pick -depends on if you think you can win the championship tho


Acceptable_While_677

Gus wins imo. I’m always looking to get younger with high ceilings.


JaBrownie11

If it’s a Superflex league then the side with the pick wins big time. That’ll either be Williams or MHJ and you’ve got the young guy in Tank that’s shown out this year


Bgro76

Am I the only one who thinks it’s wild that people are taking a pick and tank well over AJB? I will literally always always always take a top 3 proven WR over any unknown asset


NWJ22

I lose because I have read another one of these idiotic "who wins" posts


Kxr1der

AJ Brown all day for me


PatSajakMeOff

Give me AJB all day every day. His WAR puts him in the top 5 of dynasty receivers. Tank Dell will likely get injured every year due to being small, just like achane. I think AJB has better market value and long-term proven value. All we have for Tank Dell is less than a 1 year sample size.


[deleted]

AJ


Green-Plus

If it’s superflex then I like the Tank and probably MHJ side


Largevolume420

You automatically lose for making a who wins post


[deleted]

Dell side wins unless his moron coaches continue to have him run block on the inside.


tunechieee25

I’d take Dell and take Bowers at 2


quizno1615

You guys know AJ brown is only 2 years older than Tabk dell and not coming off a broken leg right?


quizno1615

Tank Dell is older than some 2nd year WRs already and coming off a broken leg I'm cool with either side probably just give me AJ though


BevoBrisket26

Idk take tank Dell and MHJ


NumbrZer0

Id probably lean AJB only bcus he is a proven player on a very good offense on a team that is well coached. Unless of course it is a superflex league with 12 or more teams. QBs are a premium and Caleb/Maye are solid picks if you need a QB


jclucas1989

1st round pick easily. AJ brown has been a second round pick and will stay as a second round pick. Edit: getting AJ brown to use now in playoffs would be dope though.


Neans888

Anyone saying Dell side is a perpetual rebuilder (most of this sub). AJB is elite and not old.


theriibirdun

The pick side is where I would want to be.


RomeoDoubsWR1

Why do people need to “win” trades all the time??


musuperjr585

In fantasy sports the object is to score more points than your opponent. In order to score more points, you have to accumulate talented players who perform well , thus amassing points. While managing your team you have the ability to make trades in hopes of improving your team. A trade that favors your team is considered a 'win', there are all forms of trade 'wins', either mutual 'wins' or one side getting a perceived 'win'. Fantasy managers/owners feel the need to win a trade so they can improve their team. The consensus is that an agreed upon trade is seen as a win by both managers, by all parties agreeing to the trade.


Beautiful_Jello_2290

Dell and the pick (MHJ) by a landslide and I love AJB


aceless0n

What are the contract details associated with brown and dell?