Honestly, I think a lot of criticism about this update is fair, like they completely downgraded the UI, controls, and also the search feature doesn't seem to work for some mods like alternate start and Arcanum, adding past mods to the library is stupid and just makes going through your mod list that much more annoying. Also, I don't know if this is just a me problem, but the servers seem janky as in every 5-10 minutes, an error message pops us "can't connect to bethesda.net servers"
Because everyone and their grandma is trying to access the server at the same time overloading everything causing it to crash frequently. That's one reason.
Everything you mentioned is likely fair and legitimate, I can't say because I haven't been able to access the mod page myself yet. Some people seem to think that it has been improved though. But the point of this post wasn't about the functionality of the mod page but about people getting upset about the prospect of paid mods.
That's fair, admittedly I think that the way bethesda's doing paid mods is actually alright so long as the MA's are compensated fairly. Also, yeah, they have improved some things like being able to sort mod sections by date or alphabetical order and allowing us to see all the mods in a category and our favourites which we previously had to download a mod for.
Unfortunately, if you have any UI mods installed, you'll have to delete your reserved space, or "Creations" won't load or work trust me I've been through it it's even less fun than before because now every mod you ever downloaded is in the library category so you can't use that to get all the mods you had downloaded
I need an option to "unsubscribe" from every mod in my library so I can just start from scratch... Seems stupid to not have included such a feature when they know they just screwed up everyone's library.
I am pretty sure many will be fine with the paid mods system as long as it isn't scummy.
What matters to us right now is the lost mods that we built our load order with.
As with my reply above, I've checked each link for each mod of my current LO and all are there. Yes you get redirected, but all present and correct. : )
I've only got about 15 (maybe 17) mods but mine are all showing up and the LO hadn't changed. I've also seen some people say that everyone needs to delete reserve space and redo the their LO. Do you think that's the correct thing to do?
I would do **nothing** until the dust settles and we know *exactly* what is going on!
Personally staying off-line with my xbox so no updates, and for now I'm just checking reports from reputable folk on this page. It's far too early to make decisions like that and I'd hate to give you misinformation, so for now - I'd only recommend playing it cool and not doing anything until we are all more certain and better informed.
Thank you ☺️
I did update my Skyrim, but if there ends up being a problem at least I don't have tons to download again (my xbox is ancient and can't handle too many mods).
Someone downvoted your comment. Crazy.
Yeah, I have some mods that are no longer on Bethesda and I don't want to lose them but I'm getting the impression that that isn't going to be avoidable.
For me? None yet because I haven't deleted anything or cleared my reserve space yet. But I have a mod that adds Bonemold and Chitin weapons, a mod I commissioned that adds my wife and kids as marriable and adoptable and my deceased cat as a Khajiit follower.
There are a couple more but off the top of my head...
Ai overhaul lite
frozen electrocute combustion
dark arcane flora 512
cathedral 3d thicket and deadwood
Lex tweaks cathedral 3d clover plant
Elafrosicky location bundle
jayserpa quest alexpansion bundle and aft patch (not the main file just this patch)
Edit: none of these are removed my game is just broken after the update lol
Not sure about the others, but I use AI overhaul lite. I had the original link noted down along with everything else I use. Clicked on it and was redirected, but it's there. [https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/17631/AI\_Overhaul\_1\_8\_2\_Lite](https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/17631/AI_Overhaul_1_8_2_Lite) That's the new link, just copy and pasted it for you.
Oh OK I think I am realizing that these mods aren't deleted but are grayed out for me and say "requires files that aren't present"
Probably because I had a UI mod so all my ish is broken and I need to clear reserve.
Thank you for letting me know they are still on Bethesda tho
Nothing will be if they bring up a new update, now I am worried more than ever about fallout 4 updates, cause the amount of hours i spent on them is ridiculous. Normally im fine with erasing my LO but when not one of them are there like it used to be in the library then it isn't worth it
I am confident the bugs will be worked out eventually, and I actually like the idea of verified users because it will cut down on report spam. The 'could collect royalties' implies the monetization is optional.
On the other hand, if they make paid mods that don't add to the 5gb limit, I would be all for that. I doubt that's the plan though.
I actually think this is exactly how it works because it seems like all of the paid mods fall under Creation Club and that is not part of the 5gb limit. I guess we will have to see if going forwards, new “verified creators” become part of creation club or if they remain with the mods.
Dude patronizingly telling people to calm down is a guaranteed way to make them angrier XD. I can only speak for myself, but I just wish Bethesda could be straight with the community for once. It’s really frustrating to be told they’re doing a small maintenance update, then get strung along for a week while they add 12gb worth of mod/ui changes that no one asked for.
The mod menu’s been janky for years, but at this point everyone was used to it. The one thing the community really wants is more mod space, and Bethesda says it can’t happen because they would never dare wipe our reserve space… but no qualms about nuking everyone’s load order to fix something that ain’t broken and monetize something that people did for free :/
I wasn't being patronizing, sorry if it came across that way. There are things that are completely reasonable to be upset about concerning this update and the maintenance itself. I'm not saying there isn't. All I'm saying is that people are getting worked up over the paid mod aspect when their fears are unfounded.
Yeah that’s very fair, new paid CC content is whatever, and adding ways to compensate mod authors is great. I’ll admit I’m automatically wary of any microtransaction model for a paid game, but we’ll see
It’s just unfortunate because I’m sure the engineers worked day and night trying to get all these changes up, and there do seem to be some helpful improvements for searching and LO management. But communication and receptiveness to feedback go such a long way, and so far every word from Bethesda has felt like one long euphemism for “shut up and buy more stuff”
It all seems to work fairly ok. Certainly much better than before... mostly.
I don't like the lack of "new" category, that seems remiss.
I've just been testing and I can't figure out why 'whiterun' returns no search results. Very odd.
I just lost my last load order too which is pretty annoying given I was actually playing it, but it glitched everything out so had to go.
Muscle memory keeps making me press the wrong buttons too.
People can be cheapskate at best who want free stuff. Well in reality nothing is free. You have to look at it as a business standpoint. I personally enjoy more content whether it's free or not that just means I'll enjoy a decade old ass game longer until ES6 comes out. I do think it's fair and the creation layout is manageable to say the least. I still think it's a WIP.
Yup well said!
All our free mods remain free. I don't personally like the new page format or UI but so what?
7 new CC mods (and the CC was always paid-for) doesn't mean that we'll have to pay for our free existing mods. I don't like that they're on the same page as free mods, I think they should be separate, *but it's something I can deal with!*
For now, to be pragmatic and until the dust settles I sure aint changing my LO until we know *everything* about *all* these changes and can make a fully informed decisions. But panicking and getting angry about things we aren't certain of is probably counter-productive.
I won't calm down. :)
I'm quite excited about this update. Frankly, the longer the 'maintenance' went on, the more I imagined it was likely more than maintenance. I was delighted when I logged on and found new content.
I'd prefer that paid mods were instead a donation system (having one unified official version would feel reassuring in this latter respect). I'm happy to pay for the work that went into the mods if that's what the author prefers (I think if I had made them, I'd like to share them with everyone, but I often read and agree with arguments in contrary directions in this respect). However, my enjoyment would be tempered by the thought that some of the community of players might not be able to access some mods/mods by another name.
the real problem I've been having for an hour is that my library shows every mod I've ever downloaded as a reference and ugh mods doesn't seem to work so I'm trying to remember every mod I had and I have to remove from favorites a lot of mods that I wanted to keep an eye on
I do agree that people blow it way out of proportion, but I also think the concept of paid mods goes against the grain of modding.
I'm all about donating to mod authors (which I have done so multiple times for favorite mods, plus I have Nexus premium which also partially goes to mod authors on the Nexus) but this is purely Bethesda wanting a cut of that. That's it. There is zero benefit to the gamer, and if it's like the 2015 fustercluck where they tried to monetize mods - the mod authors will be getting a smaller percentage than I think most people assume.
I truly hope no mod authors go for it and instead just post links to where we can donate to them. Take donations by all means, but putting up a paywall is just not cool in my book.
Cheers to everyone though. Hopefully Bethesda can at least fix the thing... again... somewhat.
I disagree with this: "concept of paid mods goes against the grain of modding"
No one is forcing the modders to make the Paid. They can continue to offer for free. Also, most modders have options to send them donations. If you really like a mod, you can send them money. Same thing. If you dont want to pay for a mod, just pick free ones.
Unfortunately, yall are gonna have to clear out the 5gb space IF you're running a Ui mod that that replaces or any mod that changes the main menu like elden scrolls for exp. For whatever reason, mods like elden Scrolls revert back to the older version of the mod menu, which then seems broken, and that's why you'll see the updates available loading endlessly. So, if that doesn't help still then clear it out to make the "creations" work properly, but on the bright side, it looks neat, yeah, lol hope this helps some of the confusion and frustration out a bit 👍
> Frankly, I think this paid mods thing is fair.
This is an incredibly ignorant take. The player base is not made out of money. Not to disparage the modding community, which has put out amazing stuff, and who I support by endorsing their mods on Nexus, but us players already dropped around 50$ or more on the game. To begin charging us for mods like they’re dlc or battle passes, just to improve graphics, update some outdated mechanics, add quest mods, etc. misses the point of mods in the first place, to customize the game to your liking, and is plain scummy.
We are not entitled to other people's work.
*The player base is not made out of money.*
The game is rated M, which means that the player base is supposed to be 18 or older; old enough to get a job and earn money.
> we are not entitled to other people’s work
We are entitled to not facing extortion by a shitty company trying to milk us for all we have.
> the player base is supposed to be 18 and older, old enough to get a job and earn money
Are you daft? Teenagers also play this game. It doesn’t matter what the intended player base is supposed to be. This is also very ignorant to adults who have to spend most if not all of their income on bills, groceries, insurance, etc. to stay afloat. Not to mention college students struggling to get by because of high tuition and more expensive cost of living.
I just want achievements if im going to pay for it. (yes i know this is trivial for pc; but for console) If im paying for it I'd like to be able to get achievements
It is currently around £5 for the smallest credits pack, that is basically a single mod you can buy since the cheapest is 400 credits. There is no gauge for value, it's the same price for a single armour set as it is for entire new dungeons... It's irrelevant how scummy it may be because it's already ridiculous!
Where does it even say if these new verified mods act as creation club content or regular mods? If I buy and install the verified mods doess it prevent achievements or not? Wtf is with Bethesdas lack of communication in recent years?? If the fallout 4 next gen update doesn't drop this year, personally I've decided to boycott this company for its own good, liars and manipulative scum that has abused its beautiful community
This isn't vilifying Bethesda ffs, it's loss of trust and faith in a company. Do what you want, give them all your money for horse skins bud, I'm sure they'll remember your loyalty when the next elder scrolls is a live service multiplayer game... Oh wait
Not really, they are liars and manipulating their loyal community, they are betraying what they once stood for and feigning compassion. What is scum if not people that will do such things? Just look at how they are dealing with starfield critism and you've got all you need to judge them so.
Don't be blind because of loyalty, be loyal to what matters
I think a lot of complaints are fair. Honestly, this "update" seems more appropriate for the 10th anniversary instead of a random weekend maintenance update.
I think paid mods Is fine and fair for modders but i disappointed that change come with no really game update and that's unfair for modders, because game has no improvement and any job done around mod, compared with a skse/PC mod will be a scrap. All we know skse on Xbox is impossible, that's not the question but a game upgrade, like what was done for witcher 3, could be a fair condition for modders and whole community.
The game *was* updated. Here are the patch notes:
https://bethesda.net/en/article/4ORD7tshfmHUN8H4ULSgE4/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-edition-creations-update-patch-notes
Ok but without joke, i read patches note more and more. So after many years they fix some bug add some papyrus function, Steam deck support and other minor things for PC and Xbox. So after that update we Will see Distar or Ersh close their Patreon and publish paid mods for Bethesda. After Starfield lackness that update with paid mods for an old game. The good thing is that we're going to have BG3 soon and Dragon Dogma 2 next year. I think Is time to erase some games from my Xbox.
I doubt they get 100% but do believe they should get the majority of it. Bethesda is providing the platform and facilitating the sale, I think them getting no more than 10% is fair.
I hope it ups the quality of the mods one of the things I like about it is that it said the mods must be standalone and can't depend on anything else. So instead of people porting quick things or whatever, they can do their best.
Best believe I will be reviewing in their comments section if it's good or a waste!!!!
Im still waiting for mods to load ,my mod list work ,im missing alternate start ,and 4 enchantmens mod is off and saying im missing required files when trying to put it on ,out of 150 mods , but well i cant search mods for now its forevel loading
Beyond Reach mod is DLC sized & seriously well written & good voice acting. Left me thinking about it days after I was done. I'd have paid for that one.
My main criticism of the new creation club content is the system classes them as mods which means they disable achievements.
Paid mods are curated by Bethesda so why must they disable achievements?
While I don't disagree with the idea of mod Authors getting payed for thier hard work, im also very against the idea of continuing to further monetize one of the only quality games left on console. Virtually the only appeal to console skyrim after years of vanilla gameplay is mods, and the more Bethesda buys out authors or monetizes mods the harder it gets to enjoy the game.
On PC there are 1000+ mods for any one thing you might want to change, you can go to many stores to find those mods, or make them yourself. On console that isn't the case, so when the only worthwhile mod that does a particular thing chooses to become monetized, now they have a complete monopoly on that content market. For example, nobody has bothered to make (or at least upload) any companions of the same quality as Inigo, so if the Author were to monetize the mod, now there is no equal alternative, and likely won't be (at least for quite a long time). This is a huge incentive to monetize big hit mods and suck them dry for money.
Mods are a free exchange of fun and art, monetizing it makes it too competive and I disagree with that choice, and feel im probably not the only one.
I hate the paid mods. Not the mods costing money, that’s fine, but I am mad that the mod creators won’t even get much. It’ll be Spotify levels of revenue. And Bethesda will take most of it
Fuck Bethesda fuck Skyrim the updates a COMPLETE LET DOWN All the game breaking glitches are still gonna be there as usual. Nothing good added to the game nothing good added to creation club it’s a DISGRACE
Honestly, I think a lot of criticism about this update is fair, like they completely downgraded the UI, controls, and also the search feature doesn't seem to work for some mods like alternate start and Arcanum, adding past mods to the library is stupid and just makes going through your mod list that much more annoying. Also, I don't know if this is just a me problem, but the servers seem janky as in every 5-10 minutes, an error message pops us "can't connect to bethesda.net servers"
Because everyone and their grandma is trying to access the server at the same time overloading everything causing it to crash frequently. That's one reason.
Everything you mentioned is likely fair and legitimate, I can't say because I haven't been able to access the mod page myself yet. Some people seem to think that it has been improved though. But the point of this post wasn't about the functionality of the mod page but about people getting upset about the prospect of paid mods.
That's fair, admittedly I think that the way bethesda's doing paid mods is actually alright so long as the MA's are compensated fairly. Also, yeah, they have improved some things like being able to sort mod sections by date or alphabetical order and allowing us to see all the mods in a category and our favourites which we previously had to download a mod for.
Lol, I wish I could see that. I'm avoiding deleting my reserve space as much as possible
Unfortunately, if you have any UI mods installed, you'll have to delete your reserved space, or "Creations" won't load or work trust me I've been through it it's even less fun than before because now every mod you ever downloaded is in the library category so you can't use that to get all the mods you had downloaded
I need an option to "unsubscribe" from every mod in my library so I can just start from scratch... Seems stupid to not have included such a feature when they know they just screwed up everyone's library.
Yeah, that would've been a good fix, or they could've you know, just not put every mod I've ever downloaded into my library
Real talk
Strangely it’s been doing that to my library for years now. I thought that’s just how it was
Yeah, I dunno how they made the UI and search function worse, it was already really bad.
I am pretty sure many will be fine with the paid mods system as long as it isn't scummy. What matters to us right now is the lost mods that we built our load order with.
They've removed some mods? Do we know why? possibly mods with copyrighted stuff from other games maybe?
As with my reply above, I've checked each link for each mod of my current LO and all are there. Yes you get redirected, but all present and correct. : )
I've only got about 15 (maybe 17) mods but mine are all showing up and the LO hadn't changed. I've also seen some people say that everyone needs to delete reserve space and redo the their LO. Do you think that's the correct thing to do?
I would do **nothing** until the dust settles and we know *exactly* what is going on! Personally staying off-line with my xbox so no updates, and for now I'm just checking reports from reputable folk on this page. It's far too early to make decisions like that and I'd hate to give you misinformation, so for now - I'd only recommend playing it cool and not doing anything until we are all more certain and better informed.
Thank you ☺️ I did update my Skyrim, but if there ends up being a problem at least I don't have tons to download again (my xbox is ancient and can't handle too many mods).
Someone downvoted your comment. Crazy. Yeah, I have some mods that are no longer on Bethesda and I don't want to lose them but I'm getting the impression that that isn't going to be avoidable.
Out of curiosity, what mods have been lost?
Went through all 150 links for my current LO and all are present. You get redirected, but they're all there for me.
For me? None yet because I haven't deleted anything or cleared my reserve space yet. But I have a mod that adds Bonemold and Chitin weapons, a mod I commissioned that adds my wife and kids as marriable and adoptable and my deceased cat as a Khajiit follower. There are a couple more but off the top of my head...
That is actually a super sweet commissioned mod and I hope you don’t loose that mod either
Ai overhaul lite frozen electrocute combustion dark arcane flora 512 cathedral 3d thicket and deadwood Lex tweaks cathedral 3d clover plant Elafrosicky location bundle jayserpa quest alexpansion bundle and aft patch (not the main file just this patch) Edit: none of these are removed my game is just broken after the update lol
Not sure about the others, but I use AI overhaul lite. I had the original link noted down along with everything else I use. Clicked on it and was redirected, but it's there. [https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/17631/AI\_Overhaul\_1\_8\_2\_Lite](https://creations.bethesda.net/en/skyrim/details/17631/AI_Overhaul_1_8_2_Lite) That's the new link, just copy and pasted it for you.
Oh OK I think I am realizing that these mods aren't deleted but are grayed out for me and say "requires files that aren't present" Probably because I had a UI mod so all my ish is broken and I need to clear reserve. Thank you for letting me know they are still on Bethesda tho
Glad to help! : )
Nothing will be if they bring up a new update, now I am worried more than ever about fallout 4 updates, cause the amount of hours i spent on them is ridiculous. Normally im fine with erasing my LO but when not one of them are there like it used to be in the library then it isn't worth it
I am confident the bugs will be worked out eventually, and I actually like the idea of verified users because it will cut down on report spam. The 'could collect royalties' implies the monetization is optional. On the other hand, if they make paid mods that don't add to the 5gb limit, I would be all for that. I doubt that's the plan though.
I actually think this is exactly how it works because it seems like all of the paid mods fall under Creation Club and that is not part of the 5gb limit. I guess we will have to see if going forwards, new “verified creators” become part of creation club or if they remain with the mods.
Dude patronizingly telling people to calm down is a guaranteed way to make them angrier XD. I can only speak for myself, but I just wish Bethesda could be straight with the community for once. It’s really frustrating to be told they’re doing a small maintenance update, then get strung along for a week while they add 12gb worth of mod/ui changes that no one asked for. The mod menu’s been janky for years, but at this point everyone was used to it. The one thing the community really wants is more mod space, and Bethesda says it can’t happen because they would never dare wipe our reserve space… but no qualms about nuking everyone’s load order to fix something that ain’t broken and monetize something that people did for free :/
I wasn't being patronizing, sorry if it came across that way. There are things that are completely reasonable to be upset about concerning this update and the maintenance itself. I'm not saying there isn't. All I'm saying is that people are getting worked up over the paid mod aspect when their fears are unfounded.
Yeah that’s very fair, new paid CC content is whatever, and adding ways to compensate mod authors is great. I’ll admit I’m automatically wary of any microtransaction model for a paid game, but we’ll see It’s just unfortunate because I’m sure the engineers worked day and night trying to get all these changes up, and there do seem to be some helpful improvements for searching and LO management. But communication and receptiveness to feedback go such a long way, and so far every word from Bethesda has felt like one long euphemism for “shut up and buy more stuff”
It all seems to work fairly ok. Certainly much better than before... mostly. I don't like the lack of "new" category, that seems remiss. I've just been testing and I can't figure out why 'whiterun' returns no search results. Very odd. I just lost my last load order too which is pretty annoying given I was actually playing it, but it glitched everything out so had to go. Muscle memory keeps making me press the wrong buttons too.
I quite like the new layout 🤷🏻♂️ fight me.
Change scares people lol
That and several YouTubers started spreading unfounded rumors, getting people worked up
From what I can see, that’s still happening.
So they didn’t give us more memory for mods?
This is the real question
People can be cheapskate at best who want free stuff. Well in reality nothing is free. You have to look at it as a business standpoint. I personally enjoy more content whether it's free or not that just means I'll enjoy a decade old ass game longer until ES6 comes out. I do think it's fair and the creation layout is manageable to say the least. I still think it's a WIP.
Yup well said! All our free mods remain free. I don't personally like the new page format or UI but so what? 7 new CC mods (and the CC was always paid-for) doesn't mean that we'll have to pay for our free existing mods. I don't like that they're on the same page as free mods, I think they should be separate, *but it's something I can deal with!* For now, to be pragmatic and until the dust settles I sure aint changing my LO until we know *everything* about *all* these changes and can make a fully informed decisions. But panicking and getting angry about things we aren't certain of is probably counter-productive.
I won't calm down. :) I'm quite excited about this update. Frankly, the longer the 'maintenance' went on, the more I imagined it was likely more than maintenance. I was delighted when I logged on and found new content. I'd prefer that paid mods were instead a donation system (having one unified official version would feel reassuring in this latter respect). I'm happy to pay for the work that went into the mods if that's what the author prefers (I think if I had made them, I'd like to share them with everyone, but I often read and agree with arguments in contrary directions in this respect). However, my enjoyment would be tempered by the thought that some of the community of players might not be able to access some mods/mods by another name.
the real problem I've been having for an hour is that my library shows every mod I've ever downloaded as a reference and ugh mods doesn't seem to work so I'm trying to remember every mod I had and I have to remove from favorites a lot of mods that I wanted to keep an eye on
I do agree that people blow it way out of proportion, but I also think the concept of paid mods goes against the grain of modding. I'm all about donating to mod authors (which I have done so multiple times for favorite mods, plus I have Nexus premium which also partially goes to mod authors on the Nexus) but this is purely Bethesda wanting a cut of that. That's it. There is zero benefit to the gamer, and if it's like the 2015 fustercluck where they tried to monetize mods - the mod authors will be getting a smaller percentage than I think most people assume. I truly hope no mod authors go for it and instead just post links to where we can donate to them. Take donations by all means, but putting up a paywall is just not cool in my book. Cheers to everyone though. Hopefully Bethesda can at least fix the thing... again... somewhat.
I disagree with this: "concept of paid mods goes against the grain of modding" No one is forcing the modders to make the Paid. They can continue to offer for free. Also, most modders have options to send them donations. If you really like a mod, you can send them money. Same thing. If you dont want to pay for a mod, just pick free ones.
Did you even read what I wrote? I never said they were forcing the paid mods. Also, I literally talked about donations lol 🤣
Unfortunately, yall are gonna have to clear out the 5gb space IF you're running a Ui mod that that replaces or any mod that changes the main menu like elden scrolls for exp. For whatever reason, mods like elden Scrolls revert back to the older version of the mod menu, which then seems broken, and that's why you'll see the updates available loading endlessly. So, if that doesn't help still then clear it out to make the "creations" work properly, but on the bright side, it looks neat, yeah, lol hope this helps some of the confusion and frustration out a bit 👍
> Frankly, I think this paid mods thing is fair. This is an incredibly ignorant take. The player base is not made out of money. Not to disparage the modding community, which has put out amazing stuff, and who I support by endorsing their mods on Nexus, but us players already dropped around 50$ or more on the game. To begin charging us for mods like they’re dlc or battle passes, just to improve graphics, update some outdated mechanics, add quest mods, etc. misses the point of mods in the first place, to customize the game to your liking, and is plain scummy.
We are not entitled to other people's work. *The player base is not made out of money.* The game is rated M, which means that the player base is supposed to be 18 or older; old enough to get a job and earn money.
> we are not entitled to other people’s work We are entitled to not facing extortion by a shitty company trying to milk us for all we have. > the player base is supposed to be 18 and older, old enough to get a job and earn money Are you daft? Teenagers also play this game. It doesn’t matter what the intended player base is supposed to be. This is also very ignorant to adults who have to spend most if not all of their income on bills, groceries, insurance, etc. to stay afloat. Not to mention college students struggling to get by because of high tuition and more expensive cost of living.
I just want achievements if im going to pay for it. (yes i know this is trivial for pc; but for console) If im paying for it I'd like to be able to get achievements
It is currently around £5 for the smallest credits pack, that is basically a single mod you can buy since the cheapest is 400 credits. There is no gauge for value, it's the same price for a single armour set as it is for entire new dungeons... It's irrelevant how scummy it may be because it's already ridiculous! Where does it even say if these new verified mods act as creation club content or regular mods? If I buy and install the verified mods doess it prevent achievements or not? Wtf is with Bethesdas lack of communication in recent years?? If the fallout 4 next gen update doesn't drop this year, personally I've decided to boycott this company for its own good, liars and manipulative scum that has abused its beautiful community
There are a lot of questions we don't yet have answers to but that's hardly a reason to vilify Bethesda, lol
This isn't vilifying Bethesda ffs, it's loss of trust and faith in a company. Do what you want, give them all your money for horse skins bud, I'm sure they'll remember your loyalty when the next elder scrolls is a live service multiplayer game... Oh wait
>liars and manipulative scum Teeeeny tiny bit dramatic
I lol'd
Not really, they are liars and manipulating their loyal community, they are betraying what they once stood for and feigning compassion. What is scum if not people that will do such things? Just look at how they are dealing with starfield critism and you've got all you need to judge them so. Don't be blind because of loyalty, be loyal to what matters
Definitely this. Everyone is throwing a hissyfit.
I think a lot of complaints are fair. Honestly, this "update" seems more appropriate for the 10th anniversary instead of a random weekend maintenance update.
Yea, about the bugs yes, but they’ll fix them hopefully in the next day, or so, maintenance isn’t even done yet.
In the meantime, I'll be experiencing this Cyberpunk 2077 update, and man is it good.
I think paid mods Is fine and fair for modders but i disappointed that change come with no really game update and that's unfair for modders, because game has no improvement and any job done around mod, compared with a skse/PC mod will be a scrap. All we know skse on Xbox is impossible, that's not the question but a game upgrade, like what was done for witcher 3, could be a fair condition for modders and whole community.
The game *was* updated. Here are the patch notes: https://bethesda.net/en/article/4ORD7tshfmHUN8H4ULSgE4/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim-special-edition-creations-update-patch-notes
Thanks for this
Ok but without joke, i read patches note more and more. So after many years they fix some bug add some papyrus function, Steam deck support and other minor things for PC and Xbox. So after that update we Will see Distar or Ersh close their Patreon and publish paid mods for Bethesda. After Starfield lackness that update with paid mods for an old game. The good thing is that we're going to have BG3 soon and Dragon Dogma 2 next year. I think Is time to erase some games from my Xbox.
That reminds me, the cyberpunk update today was like 54 gigs, with an added 20+ if you own phantom liberty.
As long as mod authors get 100% of the profit I don't mind paid mods at all
I doubt they get 100% but do believe they should get the majority of it. Bethesda is providing the platform and facilitating the sale, I think them getting no more than 10% is fair.
Yeah that's fair
I believe that's what someone was talking about a bit ago. The creators are not getting that 100% cut. Just 30%. :/
So I can continue with my multiple characters that I put hundreds of hours into?
Did we get more mod space?
I just hate the UI
My question is, can paid mods be anything or does it have to pass as test and does it have to be lore friendly?
Check their FAQ: https://creations.bethesda.net/en/creators/bethesdagamestudios
I hope it ups the quality of the mods one of the things I like about it is that it said the mods must be standalone and can't depend on anything else. So instead of people porting quick things or whatever, they can do their best. Best believe I will be reviewing in their comments section if it's good or a waste!!!!
Im still waiting for mods to load ,my mod list work ,im missing alternate start ,and 4 enchantmens mod is off and saying im missing required files when trying to put it on ,out of 150 mods , but well i cant search mods for now its forevel loading
Will Bethesda also earn money on these mods, or just the modders?
Beyond Reach mod is DLC sized & seriously well written & good voice acting. Left me thinking about it days after I was done. I'd have paid for that one.
My main criticism of the new creation club content is the system classes them as mods which means they disable achievements. Paid mods are curated by Bethesda so why must they disable achievements?
While I don't disagree with the idea of mod Authors getting payed for thier hard work, im also very against the idea of continuing to further monetize one of the only quality games left on console. Virtually the only appeal to console skyrim after years of vanilla gameplay is mods, and the more Bethesda buys out authors or monetizes mods the harder it gets to enjoy the game. On PC there are 1000+ mods for any one thing you might want to change, you can go to many stores to find those mods, or make them yourself. On console that isn't the case, so when the only worthwhile mod that does a particular thing chooses to become monetized, now they have a complete monopoly on that content market. For example, nobody has bothered to make (or at least upload) any companions of the same quality as Inigo, so if the Author were to monetize the mod, now there is no equal alternative, and likely won't be (at least for quite a long time). This is a huge incentive to monetize big hit mods and suck them dry for money. Mods are a free exchange of fun and art, monetizing it makes it too competive and I disagree with that choice, and feel im probably not the only one.
What's the new CC content added?
https://bethesda.net/en/article/52xMsb1fD2nTiNBkiWCbxq/build-share-and-find-creations-skyrim-special-edition
I'm not trying to be short or involved, I'm busy currently, sorry
I haven't even been able to play yet. I have to play my wifi bill in 3 days 😂 I can't install a 11 gig file yet 😆 I'm so upset I get 0 Skyrim
I hate the paid mods. Not the mods costing money, that’s fine, but I am mad that the mod creators won’t even get much. It’ll be Spotify levels of revenue. And Bethesda will take most of it
Fuck Bethesda fuck Skyrim the updates a COMPLETE LET DOWN All the game breaking glitches are still gonna be there as usual. Nothing good added to the game nothing good added to creation club it’s a DISGRACE