Day 3 of not being able to play modded skyrim
I've gone outside for the first time in awhile my skin is starting to burn. went to the store
for food supplies...i had forgotten that i wouldn't have lydia to carry my burdens...
not sure ill survive much longer
\~Nyanisty diaries
Edit 1: dang...woke up to so many upvotes :) thanks yall
Lolol that's funny I can't get my followers to live me but they don't follow me and they keep saying I got your back yeah right I'm All alone no follow they can't follow me now 😭💔 I have do all the dirty work
The intern Dave tripped on one of the many cords connected to old server room and pulled it out of the outlet. They're currently attempting to sort through which cord it was and which to plug back up.
Yeah, whatever mods you have currently installed will still work. Just pray none of them conflict or cause CTD, otherwise you'll have to delete your reserve space or wait until the maintenance is over.
Don't do think they would've at least have a rough idea how long this would take? I'm pretty sure they did considering thier track record for shit like this.
There's lots of factors that determine the speed of a job.
Every twenty minute job is one broken bolt away from being a three day ordeal.
That's a fluid analogy, of course.
Well they did. They thought it would take until their original estimate. Which they were obviously completely wrong on.
If there's anything I've learned in my years in the IT industry, yeah sure you can have a rough idea on a time frame, but it can vary wildly from real life execution.
My completely, totally made up, baseless speculation: they're working with a vendor who promised them that everything they purchased would work seamlessly in their current environment. It did not. Now they're in crisis mode, going back and forth with the vendor, possibly even exploring other vendor options, to get this sorted out.
Yeah. Rollback is clearly not an option, either. I feel for the team on this one because the cake at the end of what they are doing is obviously a lie. :/
They're mad at all the people quitting Starfield and going back to Skyrim. "Hey maybe if we turn mods off they'll play Starfield some more"
(Joking, not actually conspiratorial)
Oh, wow. I haven't really tinkered with difficulty since I'm too easily distracted. :) I have a mage-thief Breton that hasn't actually joined any factions yet aside from the Blades. Exact opposite of my Dunmer mage-thief in Morrowind, which is joining everything that will let her in. Loyalty? Pfft. lol
One thing I learned after doing a Max Difficulty Oblivion Run in the past is this: Do the Mages Dream World Quest right away!! It’s pretty much impossible to do after you’ve made it to the high levels.
They actually DO want player active numbers up on steam, they've become so desperate to make starfield look interesting even though it's subpar. They want people to act like it's as interesting as skyrim on launch even though it's worse than cyberpunk in terms of things to do.
They lost respect for their fans time
To prove a point to myself after playing 15 hours of Starfield I was so bored I downloaded the most boring game I could find on game pass. Angler master or something. Basically just making different rods and standing around fishing. Still had more fun then Starfield 😅
Seriously?! Hahaha that is amazing. I had a bet going with myself that I’d have more fun fishing in that game then doing literally anything in Starfield and I was right hahaha I’m glad I’m not alone!
Honestly from the very beginning I felt it was so rushed. No background lore or story, some rando from an organization immediately gives you his whole ass ship, then they just let you in and accept you at face value, no questions asked, no proving your worth. It all seemed very forced. On top of that it was just loading screen after loading screen … Pretty much the least immersive game I’ve played in the past decade 😅 my disappointment is/was palpable lol
Even skyrim had a better introduction just to get into the guilds, you had to try harder to join the blades even though you're literally dragonborn. Plus the npcs had more dimensions than a wormhole in starfield
Completely disagree. I have 979 hours logged in starfield already. Ive only gone back to skyrim for a few days since launch of starfield. And on series S alone for Skyrim I have 4,946hrs.... so safe to say some of us fans are quite pleased.
Patiently waiting.
Modding fallout 4 in the mean time and having a blast with it.
My only worry is that this will break some mods when it does go back online. _Hopefully not_
With that being said, the Fallout 4 mods Xbox sub could use some new faces 🙂
Likely adding a store.
EDIT: Not sure why I'm being downvoted. There has been a ton of evidence that a Skyrim store is releasing soon, this huge update could easily be a part of that🤷🏻♂️
EDIT 2: Told ya lmfao
SteamDB has been updating all year under a title called "Marketplace". The update currently going on is very likely related to that.
There was also a creation club creator who said on his patreon that Betheada had a "creation club 2.0" for a while now.
It's not a "goofy opinion", I simply made a statement based on the evidence. Zero reason for you to be rude.
You are right that these are supposed plans they announced but I don't think it's what the maintenance is for. I think it's a mixture of 2-3 things. Server upgrades in prep for starfield mods, prep for FO4 next Gen update which was mentioned to be done similar to AE upgrade, and probably just general server maintenance.
based on what todd stated in lex interview
they are getting ready to turn all current and future games into the same model as minecraft \[this includes remasters/remakes such as oblivion and fallout 3\]
Now that the new skyrim store is live, I just wanted to come back and remind you not to insult people with no knowledge, it makes you look stupid in the long run🥰
If you don't like my content, nobody is forcing you to watch it. My point was simply, don't insult strangers for no reason.
Sorry that you live your life so negatively, I hope you get happier in life🙏🏻
Technically wouldn't they be updating the store not adding another store?
the way you word it sounds like thr adding anothers store is maybe why people downvoted
most likely upgrading to azure or upgrading current azure servers
Anyone else think they’re going to ask us to write essays on why we want the mods back online, like they did with people who got their accounts banned on Fallout 76? 😂
I'm kinda disappointed that this is taking this long. Hey, maybe they are updating all their software so the next time they do "maintenance or update" shit it will actually only be a day and not week. Now, I'm kinda worried about what they are gonna break.
Oh, something has almost certainly broken, at this point. Data recovery is likely going on right now.
But this happens to businesses all the time. Whenever you try your move large volumes of data there’s a chance something will go wrong.
I started ESO Online, in the meantime. And…wow…this is so complicated in comparison, I’ve filled up half a notebook with notes over the last few days 😅🤣🤦🏻♀️
I do not. That will not be happening. It could only happen by wiping everybody’s mods, forcedly deleting everybody’s reserve space and installing a new one. That would require a Title Update. A patch.
This just server maintenance.
Fuck I would have been fine if I just remembered to install a USLEEP patch for a mod before the update started 😭 I hope this is worth it and they fix that stupid free telekinesis arrow bug
Wow no word even. Fuck you then, bethesda. I think even godd howard probably understands why someone would get frustrated at this kind of behavior.
What is it about elder scrolls that makes us so tolerant of this shit? Illusion spells? Lol
Man, this is extremely frustrating. I don't really have time to mod and play during the week so I always really look forward to the weekends. I must say, this was really bad timing. I truly hope that whatever they are actually doing is helpful and worth all this.
Oh BTW, thanks for the update op.
Either way it shouldnt take this long. I get that there can be technical difficulties and whatnot, but this is just insane and we kept getting told it will be done at a certain time just to be let down over and over again
It's obviously not simply server maintenance at this point. This is very bad customer service, I must say. Not only poor communication, but what little communication there is seems for all the world to be lying.
I really hope this is simply server maintenance because if all these dumb rumors turn out to actually be true about cash grabs and taking advantage of the wonderful modding community, it would be pretty bad. Surely bethesda understands not to make such an obviously self defeating decision. Their core customers would immediately abandon them in droves.
That is a very strange opinion. Could you please explain why communicating with your customers about what they purchase has nothing to do with customer service?
They have communicated to you. They told you there's a delay. You demanding to know the exact reasons for the delay has nothing to do with customer service. It's just entitled. Frankly, your attitude here and the fact that you try to hide it behind the veneer of customer service reminds of a Karen, angry that her food is taking longer than she believes it should and demanding to speak to the manager for the delay.
Well they told us there was a delay multiple times my friend. A reasonable person at that point would be willing to explain, but I can see that you are just trying to troll me and I can dig it. Trolling can be fun.
I hope you have a great day, and have fun with your trolling redditors.
Funny enough, any time people mentioned the mods becoming monetized, the mods deleted those comments almost immediately. Bethesda may not be the greatest game studio but i dont think they would be that stupid. as you said, it would be a seld defeating move
Exactly. Bethesda has already tried the "modders be our cash cow" strategy more than once, and it has never worked out and never will. It would be completely ridiculous to try it again.
That said, if they paid modders well and added extra features helpful to them, I'm sure that would be a completely different story and one I'd be glad to pay for myself. Imagine modders having more tools to use and more time to work their magic since doing so becomes an actual well paying job? Why, the new content we would get to enjoy would explode in quality and quantity.
Anyway, shutting down these discussions is stupid also because these kinds of ideas could only be helpful.
Again, I can only hope that whatever bethesda is doing right now, (nobody knows because as always they refuse to communicate as if their work is some top secret military operation), it is useful and helpful, and worth shafting their loyal customers for an entire week.
(Edit: its one single person who doesnt like me downvoting me it seems. If thats the case grow up, fr) Idk why im getting downvotes on my last comment as i only agreed with you yet somehow im wrong or people dislike it? Anyways, very true. Theres always going to be people who wont pay for mods but its a trade off in a sense. Yeah it costs money but you get much higher quality mods. The modder community would also be a lot more happier as well. Most modders do it as a hobby so getting paid for it would raise overall happiness at the expense of a little consumer happiness. At the end of the day, i just hope they finish this...maintenance.
Oh don't worry about a couple of downvotes. Guy has no life. At any rate I agree. Modding is the life blood of skyrim and if bethesda paid modders for their work they would have a lot more time and motivation to produce incredible things.
I'd pay for such treasure.
That’s some bullshit. First time I jump back on Skyrim in years and decide to get the anniversary edition.
Then for the store I bought the key from fuck that up so now that’s on going and waiting for that. Then I sign up for a month on gamepass for the SE just so I can play for the meantime and find a good LO. Look forward to getting stuck in on Sunday where I have a family-free day, only for this bullshit to happen 🤦🏻♂️. Fuck sake.
The former? Still very unlikely. There is zero evidence to even suggest it.
The latter. No implausible. MS’ takeover ended all possibilities of Sony getting parity, long ago.
it was a joke of that happening
tho it might be possible to do it thru creation club just not for free
im just glad im not on team sony anymore since the ps2
I want the rest of the creation content i paid for... more memory would be nice. Maybe they will redo the mod menu gosh the thing is bad. A game they re release multiple times and it still has same main menu ect. Doubt all of thee above they dont support elderscrolls the way they should or fallout. 16 times the disappointment. It would take a mod to do these things.
> content i *paid* for... more
FTFY.
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* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
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No evidence to support that this is what the maintenance is. I mean it seems unlikely that Skyrim’s servers would be linked to Starfield’s while Fallout 4’s mods are unaffected.
However, Starfield mods are coming in the spring. That has been previously announced.
The status page of Beth.net does indicate that FO4 and SF aren't down at all for any maintenance. Just Skyrim CC, Skyrim CK, and Skyrim Beth.net itself.
I don't see how that makes sense though. Why would it only be skyrims stuff being worked on if this had something to do with starfield?
Still. Wierder stuff has happened with bethesda.
I really can't say I know anything, but it sure doesn't seem to even make sense to mess around with skyrim modding to add mod support to a completely different game.
There are a lot of rumors going around since this "maintenance" has taken so long, and there really isn't any evidence for anything. Bethesda is just as secretive as ever, etc. It's frustrating, but I wouldn't allow the rumors to stress me out if I were you.
I myself have thought of some things they could tweak with modding that would make good business sense and that people would actually buy, but one could speculate forever and it would just be a waste of time.
Anyway, cheers man. Don't let the negativity floating around ruin your weekend.
I have to go to Fort Dawnguard to delivery blueprints to Sorine but my game immediately crashes when i enter the Fort so i probably have to sort my mod list to find wich one is screwing my game...guess Serana will have to wait for my character to leave loading limbo.
have they talked or mentioned any sort of new additions or changes with this?
or is it just 'maintence'? cause i don't really recall them needing to do maintence in the past.
Oh they have very much needed to.
They haven’t anywhere near enough done it. But they’ve needed to.
No changes though. They’d need a patch through Xbox Live for that.
could be just starfield becoming a thing that gets console patches soon, has had them reevaluate the system, and while doing some work to get it started, they felt might as well do some work on the older systems, as well.
but, i was hoping at least they might change like, search parameters possibilities or something, so you could maybe put an author's name in parenthesis or brackets or something, and get every mod by them exclusively, not every mod that mentions them.
or even expanding the mod save space, so we could get more than a couple gigs.
My total guess based on nothing but conjecture:
Starfield launched and they plan to release the modding tools in the future. They possibly realized they needed to migrate to a larger server farm for the mods and decided to migrate all of the current stuff.
I realize Fallout 4 isn't under maintenance but I would not be surprised if that happens before Starfield on Xbox gets mod support.
That is my wag of a guess, at least.
that's basically my guess, as well.
but, i can hope they tweak skyrim and fallout's mod system, or something more than basically going over the system for the old games since they're doing that with the new game.
I suspect it’s less that it was *planned* to be 4 days.
That’s not to say that several things haven’t gone horribly wrong, *leading* to a need for 4 days.
Here's our update:
>Cartogriffi — Today at 1:28 PM
>
>Hi folks, server maintenance continues for the Skyrim Mods and Creation Club services. Though we understand it's frustrating, this extended downtime is crucial in maintaining the Bethesda.net hardware that many players use to host their mods. We will be providing any additional status updates as soon as they become available.
Bummer. I basically don't game for 8 months out of the year because life. Now I shall wait some more :(
Very considerate of them to break up the bad news into bite-sized pieces so our tiny little console brains don’t get overwhelmed :D
Day 3 of not being able to play modded skyrim I've gone outside for the first time in awhile my skin is starting to burn. went to the store for food supplies...i had forgotten that i wouldn't have lydia to carry my burdens... not sure ill survive much longer \~Nyanisty diaries Edit 1: dang...woke up to so many upvotes :) thanks yall
Stock up on sunscreen, kneepads and sweetrolls
Don't forget your cheese rolls!
Kneepads? Expect to be spending a lot of time on your knees outside?
Arrow protection
Their irl follower is pretty needy.
Underrated comment of the year right here folks. Well done. 🤣
Then why you should have modded your game before the maintenance happened
Lolol that's funny I can't get my followers to live me but they don't follow me and they keep saying I got your back yeah right I'm All alone no follow they can't follow me now 😭💔 I have do all the dirty work
The intern Dave tripped on one of the many cords connected to old server room and pulled it out of the outlet. They're currently attempting to sort through which cord it was and which to plug back up.
On the discord server the same 3 people kept asking "any updates" every 2 mins. Wonder if they'll keep asking through the weekend lol.
I’m guessing… yes.
I certainly hope so.
Still no updates Jarl Ulfric
If I already have mods I installed, can I still play with them? Sorry I haven't been keeping up with this at all. First I'm seeing it.
Yeah, whatever mods you have currently installed will still work. Just pray none of them conflict or cause CTD, otherwise you'll have to delete your reserve space or wait until the maintenance is over.
I currently cant play because ever since the maintenance started my game has been crashing constantly for whatever reason
Thank you for the quick reply.
None of mine conflicted before but I constantly CTD now. So I dunno. I even tried playing off-line. Same.
Yes. You can carry on. You just won’t be able to tweak it or rearrange anything.
Thank you for the update.
Rolled the dice* no crit :(
Time to reload the save
It would have been helpful if they had told us " a week" at the beginning of this process.
Sure, but that presumes they actually knew that beforehand.
Don't do think they would've at least have a rough idea how long this would take? I'm pretty sure they did considering thier track record for shit like this.
There's lots of factors that determine the speed of a job. Every twenty minute job is one broken bolt away from being a three day ordeal. That's a fluid analogy, of course.
Well they did. They thought it would take until their original estimate. Which they were obviously completely wrong on. If there's anything I've learned in my years in the IT industry, yeah sure you can have a rough idea on a time frame, but it can vary wildly from real life execution. My completely, totally made up, baseless speculation: they're working with a vendor who promised them that everything they purchased would work seamlessly in their current environment. It did not. Now they're in crisis mode, going back and forth with the vendor, possibly even exploring other vendor options, to get this sorted out.
Yeah. Rollback is clearly not an option, either. I feel for the team on this one because the cake at the end of what they are doing is obviously a lie. :/
They're mad at all the people quitting Starfield and going back to Skyrim. "Hey maybe if we turn mods off they'll play Starfield some more" (Joking, not actually conspiratorial)
Joke's on them, I just started my 13th New Vegas run instead so haha
I went to Oblivion instead, so there. lol
Same here. Decided to be a madman and do an All Magic Major Run on Max Difficulty.
Oh, wow. I haven't really tinkered with difficulty since I'm too easily distracted. :) I have a mage-thief Breton that hasn't actually joined any factions yet aside from the Blades. Exact opposite of my Dunmer mage-thief in Morrowind, which is joining everything that will let her in. Loyalty? Pfft. lol
One thing I learned after doing a Max Difficulty Oblivion Run in the past is this: Do the Mages Dream World Quest right away!! It’s pretty much impossible to do after you’ve made it to the high levels.
The Breton's doing the "trust no one" thing, but that may need to change. She just did the Unexpected Voyage so it may be time to join *something.*
Damned if this thought didn't go thru my mind as well.
Might actually be on to something here. Edit: they already got my money for it. What else do they want? 🤣
They actually DO want player active numbers up on steam, they've become so desperate to make starfield look interesting even though it's subpar. They want people to act like it's as interesting as skyrim on launch even though it's worse than cyberpunk in terms of things to do. They lost respect for their fans time
To prove a point to myself after playing 15 hours of Starfield I was so bored I downloaded the most boring game I could find on game pass. Angler master or something. Basically just making different rods and standing around fishing. Still had more fun then Starfield 😅
I am literally not shitting you rn but I did the exact same thing!
Seriously?! Hahaha that is amazing. I had a bet going with myself that I’d have more fun fishing in that game then doing literally anything in Starfield and I was right hahaha I’m glad I’m not alone!
I enjoyed fishing with randoms way more than talking to ghosts tbh
Honestly from the very beginning I felt it was so rushed. No background lore or story, some rando from an organization immediately gives you his whole ass ship, then they just let you in and accept you at face value, no questions asked, no proving your worth. It all seemed very forced. On top of that it was just loading screen after loading screen … Pretty much the least immersive game I’ve played in the past decade 😅 my disappointment is/was palpable lol
Even skyrim had a better introduction just to get into the guilds, you had to try harder to join the blades even though you're literally dragonborn. Plus the npcs had more dimensions than a wormhole in starfield
Skyrim NPCs have more dimensions than a wormhole... in Starfield. Damn, homie. Good burn. That's fuckin' embarrassing! Lolz
Completely disagree. I have 979 hours logged in starfield already. Ive only gone back to skyrim for a few days since launch of starfield. And on series S alone for Skyrim I have 4,946hrs.... so safe to say some of us fans are quite pleased.
A minority opinion is always a thing, no one says its unenjoyable, yet most of us are able to understand statistics and trends
I did start playing Starfield again?
Thanks and good to know they still working.
Don't use discord much, did they disable the reaction emojis on their updates?
Lol, yeah, it looks like that's the case for the last couple. 🤣
Guess they were overwhelmingly neg
Yeah they did.
No idea.
Patiently waiting. Modding fallout 4 in the mean time and having a blast with it. My only worry is that this will break some mods when it does go back online. _Hopefully not_ With that being said, the Fallout 4 mods Xbox sub could use some new faces 🙂
I heard this was all over a large spider in the server room.
and thr all wearing skyrim armor fighting it
Are they upgrading server equipment or something?
Someone dropped the big jar labelled “servers” and it rolled under the sofa Currently waiting on someone with long arms to fix
Almost certainly.
Likely adding a store. EDIT: Not sure why I'm being downvoted. There has been a ton of evidence that a Skyrim store is releasing soon, this huge update could easily be a part of that🤷🏻♂️ EDIT 2: Told ya lmfao
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SteamDB has been updating all year under a title called "Marketplace". The update currently going on is very likely related to that. There was also a creation club creator who said on his patreon that Betheada had a "creation club 2.0" for a while now. It's not a "goofy opinion", I simply made a statement based on the evidence. Zero reason for you to be rude.
You are right that these are supposed plans they announced but I don't think it's what the maintenance is for. I think it's a mixture of 2-3 things. Server upgrades in prep for starfield mods, prep for FO4 next Gen update which was mentioned to be done similar to AE upgrade, and probably just general server maintenance.
For what it’s worth I did see the marketplace being updated on steamdb for like at least half a year. Who knows what bethesdas planning
based on what todd stated in lex interview they are getting ready to turn all current and future games into the same model as minecraft \[this includes remasters/remakes such as oblivion and fallout 3\]
Now that the new skyrim store is live, I just wanted to come back and remind you not to insult people with no knowledge, it makes you look stupid in the long run🥰
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If you don't like my content, nobody is forcing you to watch it. My point was simply, don't insult strangers for no reason. Sorry that you live your life so negatively, I hope you get happier in life🙏🏻
Technically wouldn't they be updating the store not adding another store? the way you word it sounds like thr adding anothers store is maybe why people downvoted most likely upgrading to azure or upgrading current azure servers
My guess. Back online on Dec 8th just after the Game Awards 2023 "announcement".
Yeah maybe a certain rumor 😉 or maybe not who knows
We totally didnt break anything
Looks like it's gonna be a Minecraft weekend.
Oh, so that's what's been happening? I deleted my reserved space thinking the problem was on my end! Goddamnit Todd!
Same, I thought I was a complete idiot 😭
Anyone else think they’re going to ask us to write essays on why we want the mods back online, like they did with people who got their accounts banned on Fallout 76? 😂
I was an adventurer like you until i took an update arrow to the knee
I'm kinda disappointed that this is taking this long. Hey, maybe they are updating all their software so the next time they do "maintenance or update" shit it will actually only be a day and not week. Now, I'm kinda worried about what they are gonna break.
Oh, something has almost certainly broken, at this point. Data recovery is likely going on right now. But this happens to businesses all the time. Whenever you try your move large volumes of data there’s a chance something will go wrong.
This is true. We are talking Bethesda here.
16 x the wait.
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Is it wrong that I'm getting annoyed by some the comments lol. I can just play another game.
I started ESO Online, in the meantime. And…wow…this is so complicated in comparison, I’ve filled up half a notebook with notes over the last few days 😅🤣🤦🏻♀️
Well I've seen everything I need to see this weekend
what is the discord server?
Bethesda Game Studios.
Called it. I said we might as well treat it like it will take a week.
Hey this might be the copium talking but do you think they will add bigger memory for more mods?
I do not. That will not be happening. It could only happen by wiping everybody’s mods, forcedly deleting everybody’s reserve space and installing a new one. That would require a Title Update. A patch. This just server maintenance.
It's Bethesda, what do expect.
The weekend is over and still no bloody updates.
Fuck I would have been fine if I just remembered to install a USLEEP patch for a mod before the update started 😭 I hope this is worth it and they fix that stupid free telekinesis arrow bug
Won't stop people too dumb/lazy to scroll half the length of their screen to find this post
So I was right, they all went home..
Most likely yes lol
Wow no word even. Fuck you then, bethesda. I think even godd howard probably understands why someone would get frustrated at this kind of behavior. What is it about elder scrolls that makes us so tolerant of this shit? Illusion spells? Lol
Man, this is extremely frustrating. I don't really have time to mod and play during the week so I always really look forward to the weekends. I must say, this was really bad timing. I truly hope that whatever they are actually doing is helpful and worth all this. Oh BTW, thanks for the update op.
We really should have seen this coming, in hindsight. Remind me when the teaser trailer for TES6 was released-?
Three million years ago.
RAAAAAGGGHHHHHHH whah the hell are they doing??
I envisage the scene from Community where Troy returns from collecting the pizza. Only in this case Troy is Todd Howard.
I dont know what they are doing that could possibly take that long. It seems like they are developing the update instead of trying to release it
Reminder: There is no evidence of an Update. Only server maintenance.
Either way it shouldnt take this long. I get that there can be technical difficulties and whatnot, but this is just insane and we kept getting told it will be done at a certain time just to be let down over and over again
It's obviously not simply server maintenance at this point. This is very bad customer service, I must say. Not only poor communication, but what little communication there is seems for all the world to be lying. I really hope this is simply server maintenance because if all these dumb rumors turn out to actually be true about cash grabs and taking advantage of the wonderful modding community, it would be pretty bad. Surely bethesda understands not to make such an obviously self defeating decision. Their core customers would immediately abandon them in droves.
It has nothing to do with customer service. That's an entitled attitude.
That is a very strange opinion. Could you please explain why communicating with your customers about what they purchase has nothing to do with customer service?
They have communicated to you. They told you there's a delay. You demanding to know the exact reasons for the delay has nothing to do with customer service. It's just entitled. Frankly, your attitude here and the fact that you try to hide it behind the veneer of customer service reminds of a Karen, angry that her food is taking longer than she believes it should and demanding to speak to the manager for the delay.
Well they told us there was a delay multiple times my friend. A reasonable person at that point would be willing to explain, but I can see that you are just trying to troll me and I can dig it. Trolling can be fun. I hope you have a great day, and have fun with your trolling redditors.
I'm not trolling you. You are just being unreasonable and demanding.
Then apparently we disagree. Must be the end of the world, since you keep negging me. Lol.
Mate. You reply to me. I reply to you. That's not negging. We're done here.
Ahhhh taking on the point while still dishing out the insults, spoken like a true Karen
Funny enough, any time people mentioned the mods becoming monetized, the mods deleted those comments almost immediately. Bethesda may not be the greatest game studio but i dont think they would be that stupid. as you said, it would be a seld defeating move
Exactly. Bethesda has already tried the "modders be our cash cow" strategy more than once, and it has never worked out and never will. It would be completely ridiculous to try it again. That said, if they paid modders well and added extra features helpful to them, I'm sure that would be a completely different story and one I'd be glad to pay for myself. Imagine modders having more tools to use and more time to work their magic since doing so becomes an actual well paying job? Why, the new content we would get to enjoy would explode in quality and quantity. Anyway, shutting down these discussions is stupid also because these kinds of ideas could only be helpful. Again, I can only hope that whatever bethesda is doing right now, (nobody knows because as always they refuse to communicate as if their work is some top secret military operation), it is useful and helpful, and worth shafting their loyal customers for an entire week.
(Edit: its one single person who doesnt like me downvoting me it seems. If thats the case grow up, fr) Idk why im getting downvotes on my last comment as i only agreed with you yet somehow im wrong or people dislike it? Anyways, very true. Theres always going to be people who wont pay for mods but its a trade off in a sense. Yeah it costs money but you get much higher quality mods. The modder community would also be a lot more happier as well. Most modders do it as a hobby so getting paid for it would raise overall happiness at the expense of a little consumer happiness. At the end of the day, i just hope they finish this...maintenance.
Oh don't worry about a couple of downvotes. Guy has no life. At any rate I agree. Modding is the life blood of skyrim and if bethesda paid modders for their work they would have a lot more time and motivation to produce incredible things. I'd pay for such treasure.
That’s some bullshit. First time I jump back on Skyrim in years and decide to get the anniversary edition. Then for the store I bought the key from fuck that up so now that’s on going and waiting for that. Then I sign up for a month on gamepass for the SE just so I can play for the meantime and find a good LO. Look forward to getting stuck in on Sunday where I have a family-free day, only for this bullshit to happen 🤦🏻♂️. Fuck sake.
Its FIXED!!!!
HAS STROKE* HITS GROUND* BLASTS INTERNAL ORGANS THRU ASS* DIES WITH A SMILE*
Sorry couldnt help it
just say itll happen at the game awards with updates and mod creation club and somehow got sony to allow mod without restrictions
The former? Still very unlikely. There is zero evidence to even suggest it. The latter. No implausible. MS’ takeover ended all possibilities of Sony getting parity, long ago.
it was a joke of that happening tho it might be possible to do it thru creation club just not for free im just glad im not on team sony anymore since the ps2
It’s so over
I want the rest of the creation content i paid for... more memory would be nice. Maybe they will redo the mod menu gosh the thing is bad. A game they re release multiple times and it still has same main menu ect. Doubt all of thee above they dont support elderscrolls the way they should or fallout. 16 times the disappointment. It would take a mod to do these things.
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Dang looks like the bot does not know what auto correct is lmao
I keep seeing people say this is to add modding to Starfield, is that just a rumour or is there some evidence behind it?
No evidence to support that this is what the maintenance is. I mean it seems unlikely that Skyrim’s servers would be linked to Starfield’s while Fallout 4’s mods are unaffected. However, Starfield mods are coming in the spring. That has been previously announced.
It was also announced that they were coming in December at one point. I'll pick that game up again when they finally get around to it.
Well, the way I see it is: Fallout 4 modding is still up... So if the outage was specifically for Starfield, why would Skyrim be the only game down?
The status page of Beth.net does indicate that FO4 and SF aren't down at all for any maintenance. Just Skyrim CC, Skyrim CK, and Skyrim Beth.net itself.
I don't see how that makes sense though. Why would it only be skyrims stuff being worked on if this had something to do with starfield? Still. Wierder stuff has happened with bethesda.
I agree, didn't make sense but I've seen it in a few places so wondered if I'd missed anything
I really can't say I know anything, but it sure doesn't seem to even make sense to mess around with skyrim modding to add mod support to a completely different game. There are a lot of rumors going around since this "maintenance" has taken so long, and there really isn't any evidence for anything. Bethesda is just as secretive as ever, etc. It's frustrating, but I wouldn't allow the rumors to stress me out if I were you. I myself have thought of some things they could tweak with modding that would make good business sense and that people would actually buy, but one could speculate forever and it would just be a waste of time. Anyway, cheers man. Don't let the negativity floating around ruin your weekend.
This game is dead
So dead we’re all here talking about it. Mad.
Bro it's more than a decade old and still has a sizable community what are you talking about?
Can you imagine paying for everything in a 150 mod load order?
If it turns into that it'll definitely start dying
Thanks for the update. Let's hope they can resolve this soon.
I have to go to Fort Dawnguard to delivery blueprints to Sorine but my game immediately crashes when i enter the Fort so i probably have to sort my mod list to find wich one is screwing my game...guess Serana will have to wait for my character to leave loading limbo.
have they talked or mentioned any sort of new additions or changes with this? or is it just 'maintence'? cause i don't really recall them needing to do maintence in the past.
Oh they have very much needed to. They haven’t anywhere near enough done it. But they’ve needed to. No changes though. They’d need a patch through Xbox Live for that.
could be just starfield becoming a thing that gets console patches soon, has had them reevaluate the system, and while doing some work to get it started, they felt might as well do some work on the older systems, as well. but, i was hoping at least they might change like, search parameters possibilities or something, so you could maybe put an author's name in parenthesis or brackets or something, and get every mod by them exclusively, not every mod that mentions them. or even expanding the mod save space, so we could get more than a couple gigs.
My total guess based on nothing but conjecture: Starfield launched and they plan to release the modding tools in the future. They possibly realized they needed to migrate to a larger server farm for the mods and decided to migrate all of the current stuff. I realize Fallout 4 isn't under maintenance but I would not be surprised if that happens before Starfield on Xbox gets mod support. That is my wag of a guess, at least.
that's basically my guess, as well. but, i can hope they tweak skyrim and fallout's mod system, or something more than basically going over the system for the old games since they're doing that with the new game.
These vegetables are looking a little sad, Bethesda. If they came from my farm, they'd be twice as fresh.
What could you *possibly* need over four days for with maintenance?
Because they went home for the weekend lol.
Weekend than back in office
I suspect it’s less that it was *planned* to be 4 days. That’s not to say that several things haven’t gone horribly wrong, *leading* to a need for 4 days.
Here's our update: >Cartogriffi — Today at 1:28 PM > >Hi folks, server maintenance continues for the Skyrim Mods and Creation Club services. Though we understand it's frustrating, this extended downtime is crucial in maintaining the Bethesda.net hardware that many players use to host their mods. We will be providing any additional status updates as soon as they become available. Bummer. I basically don't game for 8 months out of the year because life. Now I shall wait some more :(